Chess Traps- Fishing Pole

[dumshady]

at 5:26 he can put put his knight to d5, cause after you done Pc6 he can capture your knight at g4 and your even in material right ?

[Pixie12321]

knight g4 at 1:35 puts you 1 point behind the opponent

[GtaOnur]

why doesn't the trap work if he plays h3, 2 moves later than expected?

[Flyer48epic]

Worst opening ever.

[MrDUDLEYDUDE]

well what if white retreats his knight to h2...trap is useless now

[hotwaxjedikkema]

@MrDUDLEYDUDE No it's not... White can again play Qh4 and have a decisive attack.

[philnoll]

This trap just seems to waste time. White can develop normally with a better game.

[mexicanmansam]

@philnoll It's just something to be aware of. What if someone used it on you and you haven't seen this video? You'd probably lose...

[nikolex7]

best vids ever !!!!

[TisforTaco]

good analysis. however, i'd prefer you coming from an unbiased standpoint.

some things you say were almost like you were trying to persuade us into using the trap. i would have liked it better if you looked at the cons, and not just the pros. for example, at 4:50, i would have liked to hear "black has lost both its center pawns, but its so early in the game that black still maintains a playable position", rather than "black is still going to have a very good game".

[RandyIsC0o00o0L]

3:34 " One of the common move you'll see, someone who is very confused " Thats FUCKING LOL...

[jacovc1986]

@RandyIsC0o00o0L you just made that up. he said many familiar with the lopez techniqe so they may continue with that openning

but it still funny. good comment (common people ARE confused... i.e. you...)

[RandyIsC0o00o0L]

@RandyIsC0o00o0L I made it up ? lol dude .. do I have to say the same words like he did? I gave the meaning:)

[MrTheracal]

u r cool



[Fidothedog11212]

yeahhhhhh the first game i played after watching this i did it and won in 10 moves with black!

[JustCrowned]

@Fidothedog11212 Nice. But I really doubt anyone would castle so early. :P

[MrPaidePoiss]

but if hes move hes horse on e2?

[WhiteSilverknight]

@thechesswebsite Your videos are too cool for words. I've been able to beat players using the Fishing Pole trap and Mortimer's Trap you've taught me! Please do more of these awesome videos such as the King's Indian Attack or the Black Knight's Tango.

[TheMRTIMBUK2]

This Trap is Complete Shit... Mean Worthless .... Look at W-Q its like a Vegetable Lolxxx Not moving why ???? Do you Play With Kids or what ?

[kikook222]

@TheMRTIMBUK2 I hope to God you just didn't say "Why is the white queen not moving?" If you are then you're complete shit. Only a child will make the mistake of moving the queen in the opening sequence.

[TheMRTIMBUK2]

@kikook222 still crap and fail cuz if opponent is not going for castle and playing game then you will wait for him any probably may lose your game.

Why do you think moving Queen here is Shit.... YOU ARE THE ONLY DOUCHE WHO THINK SO.... WHO WILL LOSE ANYTHING FOR SUCH A CRAPPY TRAP LOLXXX

[psiera4332]

@kikook222 wait so like....magnus karlsson would make that mistake

[SuperShamrock1234]

Note that at 2:46 , when he shows that position, if white had done d3 prior to that, white could retreat the knight to g5 instead of e1. This would counter the trap big-time!

[0111person]

@SuperShamrock1234 what?

[iwillfoolu]

@half147 The white rook comes out to e1. The black knight on e4 moves to avoid loss of material. The white bishop on b5 takes the knight on c3, one of the black pawn recaptures (to avoid loss of material), then the rook takes the pawn (with check!). Not a good position for black.

[half147]

You say white will get their material back at 1:21, but the rook can't then take the pawn as it's covered by the knight on c6. Is there some continuation I'm not seeing?

[SuperShamrock1234]

@half147 Be sure to study the Ruy Lopez opening good enough. It proves that that move falters your game in the middle game.

[philnoll]

@half147 That is the main line.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Nxe4 5. Re1 Nd6 6. Nxe5 Be7 7. Bf1 Nxe5

8. Rxe5 O-O 9. d4 Bf6 10. Re1 Nf5 11. c3 d5

[SuperShamrock1234]

Note how he says equalize at the beginning...

[lmackinnon34]

At 4:31 white squared bishop can move to G4, luring in the pawn to take, when he does, your pawn can take at G4, and you can basically check mate him the same way. (:

[no100yang]

What if he take his pawn out after he develope his knight to c3? than take his pawn out, i think we can still do the trap if u didnt castle, so i think it'll be better if u just castle queen side all the way x3

[Mraikentv]

If white instead plays the italian game.

I presume if he castles the trap would also work just as well?

[iliginjaili]

at 1:27 why can we not play Nxd4?

[Mraikentv]

@iliginjaili Nxd4 then Re1 threatening the knight after the knight retreats Nxe5.

Winning the pawn back and the center.

[SuperShamrock1234]

What if he captures our queen with his knight?

[SuperShamrock1234]

So basically, if white caputures the knight, not knowing it's a trap, there's no way that white can escape from Rook and queen Checkmate?



[SuperShamrock1234]

I agree your videos are awesome, but let's say white doesn't play the roy lopez, and plays Bc4 as the 3rd move. Would the trap still work? Oh, by the way nice videos, I won many games! Thanks!

[tupacandeazyefan]

@ 2:32 he can also move the knight to h2. black queen comes out to h4. white moves f2 to f3. black has to move g4 to g3. white moves f1 to f2 now black can capture h2 and f2 in 2 moves but not check mate...right? ^^ im not sure :S

[mopbrothers]

Great move! I used this to win my game today!

[inscrutable67]

what about knight to H2 after he takes the black knight to give the king a running chance?

[SuperCam666]

1:40 everytime i move my knight to g4, white moves his pawn to d3 and i have no idea what to do from here :(

[ms29351]

wat abt Nh2 followd by Re1

[timmeh231]

never seen anyone castle after the ruy lopez

only really works if they do

[MrLatinNerd]

Does anyone know what program is being used in this video? Great video btw

[ISAYWORDS1]

after i watch your videos, my brain is oozing out of my ears, yet somehow i feel better at chess.

[tornadoakias]

well actually Kevin I wanna make a question.what if queen doesn't go to f3(qxf3) and pawn goes to f3 to kill the white Knight.Then?

[MrLatinNerd]

@tornadoakias Then the white king, trapped on the right side of the chessboard, will be exposed and black can attacked the castled king like Qg4+, and then bring his bishops out and possibly mate white.

[mukmin01]

lmao, i think i can, without any hesitation to continue to be the best in my community hahahahhaaha (evil laugh)

[yoyo200900]

brilliant :)

[waterwind2266]

Thumbs up if NintendoCapriSun brought you here.

[moviecritic6]

@waterwind2266 He didn't, so thumbs down.

[fingernail927]

I would like to point something out. After h pawn takes g pawn , if the knight goes to H2 then when the queen comes to H4 then if the f pawn comes to F4 and the G pawn is pushed , then white doesn't necessarily lose , if the rook on F8 is pushed to F7, if the g pawn takes, then the king can just move away, and then take , if the rook isn't taken then the queen takes the knight on H2 the king just ends up escaping . So it isn't mate if the knight moves , white justs ends up severaly decimated.

[afiqRevolverHades]

what software r u using??

[solowingpixy139]

I love how nice & clear all your videos!!! This one works like a charm for me each time I play someone who play's ruy lopez who haven't seen this move XD

[daemonowner]

1:47 if white knows the fishing pole, then an easy defense is g2-g3. From there on, the knight won't be much of a problem, and the queen can't get in there without further development.

[qertasdfgzxcvb]

And my opponent "took the bait" and I mated. Thanks, Kevin!

[nDn1984]

i wish i saw this earlier. i lost to this damn trap.

[IamEternal94]

My Chess tutor told me this tactic/trap was as stupid as Planking. I sit here now, after winning a game in 10 moves by using a variation of this trap. Thankyou very much :).

[Williaammx3]

iloveyu so much <3 yu make the best vids .

[thechesswebsite]

@Williaammx3 well thank you :)

[SuperShamrock1234]

@thechesswebsite You never respond to us anymore....



[MrMazz88]

this ma fav trap

[MrShahrul96]

nice trap...at time 0.58-1.00, how about white move Nc3?can u tell me..I just adept..can I get your email? I want ask you about chess....

[collynzzz1]

thanx! lol i just used it and i won i very little moves

[awesomewin1337]

"someone who is very confused might just start taking material"

as Kedislol said, this made me laugh, and because i have actually seen it happen as well. whenever im playing against my brothers (who are a lot worse at chess than me, so i mentor them, usually just copying these videos) and i do something that confuses them, they just start beserking and taking material despite the losses. When they go all out like that, sometimes it can be awkward for me, but i always come out on top.

[LynxCoding]

Wow this is awesome lol.

[laputadetumadre11]

i like all the patzers who think playing traps is real chess. You may win against a class player but that won't hold against anyone over 1800. it's you guys that play for traps that got me my 2100 rating. Thank you for playing bad chess instead of learning the real game.

[druglover200]

@laputadetumadre11 tactics not traps?

[laputadetumadre11]

@druglover200 I'm not saying the trap is bad, but playing for traps is bad because they do backfire if the opponent knows the refutation.

[dragon91027]

Nxe4 White should play d4. Current theory.

[armangokalp]

wow!!!That is really good trap!!!If we want to win against upper 1900-2000 rated players, we have to use traps like this!!!That is a brillant and creative trap...I love it...I will try it even if it has a possiblity to lose the game!!!

[laputadetumadre11]

@armangokalp No if you wanna win against 1900-2000 rated players you are better off learning tactics and doing some serious studying rather than relying on a traps that will backfire if the opponent knows what they are doing

[kikook222]

@laputadetumadre11 You never rely on one tactic to win a game, you assume every game your opponite knows the tricks you're using.

[laputadetumadre11]

@kikook222 lol do you even know what a tactic is patzer? a TACTIC is a weapon in chess. A PIN, A FORK, A SkEWER, those are tactics. The fishing pole IS NOT A TACTIC. it's a trap. And a bad one. Of course you guys don't see this because you are all pathetically weak chess players. Don't even know the difference between a tactic and a trap.

[kikook222]

@laputadetumadre11 Go fuck yourself with that attitude. A trap is a tactic. Every fucking part of chess involves your tactics versus theirs. If you don't want to believe that that's fine, but it doesn't make you right.

How about this, what's the difference between tactics and traps? They both involve you try to achieve something.

[laputadetumadre11]

@kikook222 no you can go fuck yourself you weak retard. It's not something i made up, go read on it. Any BASIC chess book for beginners (i.e you) will explain to you CLEARLY what a tactic is (fork, pin, etc). Sorry buddy, but what you are doing is basically covering your ears and screaming really loud trying to ignore your own ignorance. Weak ass patzer. The meaning of "tactic" is in chess is different than the one we use in every day language moron. Weak ass patzer.

[laputadetumadre11]

@laputadetumadre11 By the way, you owe me 20 dollars for educating you. Thanks to me you won't be ridiculed and laughed at in a chess club when you go in for the first time and misuse the word tactic. I have saved you from a really embarrasing moment. Ask them to teach you the basic rules of chess, like when to castle, retard. It's obvious you don't know shit.

[laputadetumadre11]

@kikook222 lol you are so FREAKING weak that you are confusing the word PLAN with TACTIC. It's your plan against their's moron, not your tactic vs their tactic. HAHAHA, what's your rating, under 1300 i presume? only a complete retard like you is impressed by the fishing pole, a really bad trap. The lines in the video that show that if that black is fine if white doesn't fall for it are complete BS. White can and will kill you if you try stupid shit like that,

[laputadetumadre11]

@kikook222 Go to any chess club and tell them a trap is a tactic. DO IT. I dare you to. Tell them with a STRAIGHT face you HONESTLY BELIEVE a trap and a tactic are the same thing. DO IT. IF YOU HAVE BALLS DO IT. you won't because you are a pussy. And you know you are wrong.

[drieske2309]

cool

[Thehamez]

the second trap looks useless. You lose a piece to white and their queen has a lot of influence.

[Exiro]

You didn't go over Nh2 instead of Ne1. Not that it would've made a difference, though, because f4 would still be responded to with ... h3 and Re1 would be responded to with ... Nd4.

[CRITICINYOURMOUTH]

Can you start describing what is in the video better

ie. In this video we have the fishing pole trap, in which you are black, and you play it by ...

[1969gawa]

hxxp://chessjam.com/game/WIuh2­fay ,sweet!! Nice one

[SSteinnes91]

The Fishing Pole works perfectly in the four knights game and several other openings too. You just have to be sure that the opponent castles before you do, and then do your knight move. You could even do a variant of it while playing white.

[jukokerguy]

dude.... this is kinda useless unless the games first moves are set up exactley how you had yours..... which is a very slim chance of happeneing

[1969gawa]

@jukokerguy Not necessarily!

[toolopiatelateralus]

what if he doesnt castle and moves say a pawn instead?

[NickTheGreekSuper3]

@toolopiatelateralus most advanced players say that the sooner you castle, the better. don't know why... i wouldn't.

[Unspollidquill]

OMG YESSSSS (sarcasm)

[runeman180]

what if at the begining if he moves his biship to c4? then the fishing pole wont work. or what?

[elitex111]

Hey what if he doesn't castle at all?

[tufosanta]

@elitex111 then u dont use the trap??? brilliant comment rlly..

[elitex111]

@tufosanta Ok geez i was just asking. I'm not a person who plays chess all of the time.

[Fakeflame]

@elitex111

the main line is to castle so like 80% of the people who like to play ruy lopez will castle

[MWaser]

Quite amazing. I'm surprised I forgot about that. I think I saw that strategy in some chess book some time ago, but it never worked when I fought against my grandfather and some pros. Worked against everybody else, though. At least the first time.

[MrCrippledrabbit]

After knight to g4 what would be your next best move if white moves pawn to d4?

[jcandnp]

kevin....nice videos, always good stuff. BUT, you have GOT to stop saying the word "simply" so much. if you watch your videos, you'll notice that you describe almost every move as "simply xyz".

[mtguy8787]

Except that unless your long term strategy is specifically built around Ng4, youve simply wasted a tempo...

[plugger543]

loool i just played this trap, my opponent had no idea what to do. :D so funny

[quickturtle]

I played 5.d4 and avoided the trap altogether. White's problems begin with 5.h3.

Good video, keep them coming :)

[LifeMattersChannel]

What chess interface he uses?

[Rexarif1]

gfb

[Rexarif1]

thanx bro............

[Rexarif1]

That can be a good trap against people who don't know it......thanks bro..........

[ashwinqwert]

idk much about chess (still trying to lear) but WAT if whit dident move the king to g1 ?? or wat if white dident make the move a piece that u told he would move?? plz help

[WASP021]

i like your videos and your strategies are really good. BUT, your examples of what might happen are really dumb a lot of the time... "lets say he moves his bishop and takes your pawn so that he is open to be then taken by your other pawn"... no one i know with a brain would do that, sorry.

[saytenvideos]

Man I got beat on this trap because the person I was playing moved the rook over one

[IamS4t4N]

Watch Jrobichess video Ruy Lopez mortimer trap if white doesn't castle.

[BrianWallChess]

To ba1konur 1 month ago After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. 0-0 Ng4 5. h3 h5 6. Bxc6 dxc6 7. d4 exd4 8.hxg4 hxg4 9.Nh2 Qh4 10.Bf4? H-file is blocked and 10...Bd6 fails to 11.e5

Try 9 Nh2 Be6, ... Qd7, 0-0-0

ba1konur 1 month ago

[SoulessCrusader]

Thanks! You really helped me out with this! I actually beat my cousin using this Trap!

[yossso]

It's not checkers - you don't have to respond to your opponent's dumb little "attacking" moves. - That's the whole power of the game - if he attacks wrongly, he is liable to be crushed (if you respond accurately to his "attack" move).

[yossso]

If the traps doesn't work, then:

1. Black has wasted a move.

2. Black has lost some central control which White will exploit.

3. White calls the all shots: - he can drive away the black knight Whenever He Wants.

4. The black knight is not a good attacker - I will ignore him, and Black will eventually return him to f6 - losing another tempo, and his pride.

[welshnick300365]

I don't care for bd6. Anything wrong with bc5 on that move ?

[2VAproductions]

I really enjoy you videos. You have made me a much better chess player. Thanks!

[zomfgpaNic]

Man I'm a pretty crappy player like my rating is 900 ish, and thanks to all the tips on all your videos i beat a 1400 player today :) and i've won about 10 straight now. Thanks Alot!

[ba1konur]

Am I missing something obvious? After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. 0-0 Ng4 5. h3 h5 6. Bxc6 dxc6 7. d4 exd4....

how does black proceed if white plays 8.hxg4 hxg4 9.Nh2 Qh4 10.Bf4? H-file is blocked and 10...Bd6 fails to 11.e5

[frankgon4]

LOL, I had never thought of looking at You Tube for Chess tips. Good job.

[XDemonguy]

what if white moved his knight in the way the rook?

[frankgon4]

@XDemonguy then develop game as normal. White's knight is moved out of play and will take a couple of move to get back into the game.

[ExiledSenpai]

You use the word "simply" alot

[Zelandakh]

In the (main) 5.Nc3 line, after 6...0-0; 7. h3, Nf6; 8.d3, I am not sure I would consider the position to be "very good", or even "just fine", for black. In truth black is down at least a tempo in what is already a fairly dangerous line, and h3 is really rather useful too. I'd expect an extremely high white score (at least 80%) in games between decent players of equal strength from this position.

[NMGDL5]

@thechesswebsite tnks for your tips man i'll be using that in the ncaa this july 24 tnks again

[lolking92]

lol did you ever see this move?at 0:58 white moves bishop from b5 to c6

[balanceseeker]

IBc5 is stronger if white does not capture the knight. Even if h3,h5 Nc3, Bc5 is still best because it continues to pressure the king side effectively, further enticing white to take the knight.

Moves like Bd6 and Nd4 are too passive after Nc3 and only take the game back to where white is comfortable, which is something counter to the intent of the fishing pole. The idea is to throw the board into chaos, and wait for white to hang itself.

[Pseudonym25]

I've actually come up with something like this independently.

[hikaru05kelly]

thanks for your help bro ^_^

[Bean123forjoem]

where can i develop the light-square bishop? all squares are protected by the knight and the pawn

[PeaceKeeper333]

genious! :D

[MetaphorWithACancer]

.... OR white can move his knight from F3 to H2, or F3 to G5 then move his castle from F1 to E1. White avoids checkmate at the cost of a knight but can work around it.

[BrianWallChess]

After 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 Nf6 4 0-0 Ng4 5 h3 h5 6 Nc3 I play 6 ... Bc5 rather than 6 ... Nd4

[prototype1996]

awesome trap

[arkbird23]

Nice attack and very well explained......if you are interested in middlegame tactics, you can check out my vids...arkbird23

[Kedislol]

"Someone who is very confused might just start taking material"

lol, that made me laugh :P

[lolipop865]

OMG!!!!! thank u !!!!!!

[thechesswebsite]

@lolipop865 no thank you

[rockmanmegamanfan]

@thechesswebsite

I'm a noob but why when this Ruy Lopez opening happen white doesn't capture the knight and when pawn recaptures knight wins pawn ? Just asking.

[mebm91]

@rockmanmegamanfan

After BxNc6, black will counter d7xBc6. Then Nf3xe5, black could simply respond Qd4, thereby, forking the N and e4. Then if white N moves, Qxe4 with a check. As such, forcing White to lose his chance to castle. It's either he moves his King after the check or he moves the King after QxQ.

[rockmanmegamanfan]

@mebm91

Oh I see thanks.

[rockmanmegamanfan]

@thechesswebsite

It's a great trap by the way , fan of chess from Malaysia , take care.

[teunmarnix]

I don't think the trap can succeed if white plays d3 or d4. Because when white then takes the knight, and black takes the pawn on g4, then white can simply moves his knight to g5. Then black cant get his queen on the h-file.

Do you think the trap can still succeed when white plays d3 or d4? I always move my knight back to f6, because i don't know the answer.

[imsoccerplayer]

what is the hardest trap in chess than

[comface]

I saw another video about this and played it.

However, they didn't take the bait and I didn't know how to procede.

I wish I'd watched his video instead! This defence is great!

[BrianWallChess]

search Fishing Pole Chess for 7 videos

Fishing Pole First Blood is mine

others at Youtube Channel

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or google Brian Wall Chess for 40 pages

[lewiszim]

I like your video, it was the first video on the fishing pole I watched. Your right the fishing pole does crete chaos!

[djjohnson89]

haha i just used it. wow how fast it made me win. :)

[thechesswebsite]

that's awesome! your opponent was probably real confused.

[talanand]

@thechesswebsite same thing happened with me in a uscf tourney

[BrianWallChess]

I like your video, Kevin. I play most lines differently from you but it was cool to see how you played it. I have much more analysis at walverine or BrianWallchess

or even videos if you search Fishing Pole Chess

[thechesswebsite]

yeah, checked yours out, very nice, learned quite a bit. Thanks.

[ihateuutube]

where is your video?

[xavier2nikos]

i love this trap. as black this si deffinately in my first weapon.

[Fruitjoke]

This is a good vid, but try not 2 use the word 'simply' too much in ur futuer vid.

[thechesswebsite]

you are definitely right. I'm still working on my "public speaking" skills. Hopefully it wasn't too bad but I definitely will work on this in the future.

[Cratos559]

what do i do if he puts his bishop to c4 instead of b5

[Swanyboy25]

its good to compare this video with JRobi's on the trap and see all the possible lines and not just the same thing twice. I think i like how how JRobi suggests moving the bishop to C5 rather than D6 with possible threats against F2, but D6 is also a good move. Great video!

[spinthepen]

Fantastic! Great trap!

[TheW0rldEndsWithMe]

wow, what a trap

[blits4000]

Aw nice trap video kevin.

I love this one, it's so mysterious and not as risky as the other traps if it fails ;D

[xavier2nikos]

beat a master in a 10 minute game witht his... for those who don't know me, i am about 1450 as a player. yeah i hold this trap close to heart. good video!

[thechesswebsite]

That's awesome. Had to have been one of the coolest moments of your life.