What happened before was the attack on jews was that they were preparing for a attack on Madina and were gathering lot of weapons in their fort. They were doing this along with disbelievers of makkah. Meanwhile the muslims and disbelievers of of makkah made a pact (which was later on broken by the disbelievers of makkah). After that, muslims attacked Kyber. Muslims just took the battle to them. The jews were already planning the attack.
Phoenix: jews of madina were not a peaceful community. They had signed on a pact titled as "Meesaq-e-Madina". According to that pact, every nation of madina had to fight together for defence in case of a foreign city attack. When disbelievers of makkah attacked during Ghazwa-e-Khandak, jews of madina broke the pact and did not come to their aid. Instead, they aided the enemy by information. Still muslims did not took revenge from the jews
The Jews at Khaybar were not at war with Muhammad when he ordered his warriors to attack them. Even his faithful son-in-law, Ali, whom he chose to head the mission was somewhat perplexed as to the pretext on which they were to attack this peaceful farming community so far away from Medina:
Muhammad said: 'Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory', and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger' (Muslim 31:5917)
The Jews were caught entirely be surprise, of course. Their wealth was stolen and their women and children distributed as slaves by the prophet of Islam to his men. Muhammad even took a woman for himself (after ordering the death of her husband).
Before his death, Muhammad sent his warriors against pagan Arab tribes, such as the al-Harith, demanding that they either convert to Islam or be wiped out (they opted for the Religion of Peace). On his deathbed, he cursed Christians and Jews (Bukhari (59:727)).
Muslims are taught to follow in the way of Muhammad. Putting two and two together, Muslims down through the centuries have forced Christians, Jews to accept Islam, either by bluntly offering them death as an alternative, or by making their lives so miserable (ie. taxes, denial of right, etc) that the conquered convert to Islam under the strain.
8. Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
9. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zalimun (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah).
@1001Phoenix To all Christians who are trying to fool ignorants and mislead them about Islam, I want you to proudly share with us the Beauty and Peacefullness of Christianity especially in treating their Jews brothers for the past 2000 years. Please watch a video in youtube called " The Expulsion of Jews Throughout History " and let us hear from you on the humanity of Christianity in the matter of their tolerance towards others and especially their Jews brothers :)
Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, converted to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option.
Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.
Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them
... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them"
CHRISTIANS ATTEMPTS TO WIN OVER CONVERTS BY LYING , DEMONIZING AND EXPLOITING THE MUSLIMS IS UTTERLY SHAMEFUL. IF THE CHRISTIANS THEM SELVES ONLY KNEW WHAT THEIR OWN BIBLE SAYS ON THIS ISSUE OF APOSTATES, IN '' DUET 13 6-18'' GOD CLEARLY GIVES HIS VERDICT'S ON THE MATTER. but like always the Christians will give their infamous arguments that, ''We're quoting the Bible out of context...
There is Govermnent and Court in the country. This is not a jungle. Everyone can has his own religion. Islam never force anyone to Islam. Stop this nonsense.
@mydreampark wtf!! islam does force everyone to isalm.. u need to read ur own quran.. egyptians were killed if not converting to islam. mohammed was a pedofile a killer a raper and a thief.. I just dont understand how muslims can be that dumb into believeing that a SATANIC person like that filthy pig is a prophet.
@MsProudtobecanadian Copts Encyclopedia " The Copts have been persecuted by almost every ruler of Egypt. Their Clergymen have been tortured and exiled even by their Christian brothers after the schism of Chalcedon in 451 A.D. and until the Arab's conquest of Egypt in 641 A.D...For the four centuries that followed the Arab's conquest of Egypt, the Coptic Church generally flourished and Egypt remained basically Christian. " Go and read history little girl. Ignorance is your biggest enemy.
@MsProudtobecanadian Jewish History Wikepedia " During the Middle Ages, Jews were generally better treated by Islamic rulers than Christian ones...Jews played prominent roles in Muslim courts, and experienced a "Golden Age" in Moorish Spain..Under Christians rule, Thousands of Jews were thrown into prison, tortured, and burned, until a project was formed to sweep all Spain clean of unbelievers..Queen Isabella of Spain issued an edict banishing all Jews from Spain " Go and read history Lil girl
out of context, this verse was meant 4a certain people &certain time, u havent even completed the verse!!! it allows fighting in self defence only, here is the context 8:38 Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place. the remaing of 8:39 which u omitted: And if they cease then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do
@MsProudtobecanadian To all Christians who are trying to fool ignorants and mislead them about Islam, I want you to proudly share with us the Beauty and Peacefullness of Christianity especially in treating their Jews brothers for the past 2000 years. Please watch a video in youtube called " The Expulsion of Jews Throughout History " and let us hear from you on the humanity of Christianity in the matter of their tolerance towards others and especially their Jews brothers :)
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Allah said in the quran : (No Compulsion in religion ) , OK ?
themanwithloveandlol 2 weeks ago
This will never end. Let every body leave in peace please. Stop it for god sake!!
AlwaysLookForTruth 3 months ago
wtf this isnt islam...islam doesnt teach muslims to force people to become muslims!! this is so messed up...
this is more of a culture thing then anything else!!!!
MissT786 4 months ago
LOL this doesnt surprise me, more prove how disgusting islam is, ill always hate that disgusting filth
beautifulday01 6 months ago 2
What happened before was the attack on jews was that they were preparing for a attack on Madina and were gathering lot of weapons in their fort. They were doing this along with disbelievers of makkah. Meanwhile the muslims and disbelievers of of makkah made a pact (which was later on broken by the disbelievers of makkah). After that, muslims attacked Kyber. Muslims just took the battle to them. The jews were already planning the attack.
tryingtobewithyou 8 months ago
Phoenix: jews of madina were not a peaceful community. They had signed on a pact titled as "Meesaq-e-Madina". According to that pact, every nation of madina had to fight together for defence in case of a foreign city attack. When disbelievers of makkah attacked during Ghazwa-e-Khandak, jews of madina broke the pact and did not come to their aid. Instead, they aided the enemy by information. Still muslims did not took revenge from the jews
tryingtobewithyou 8 months ago
Phoenix:
Your pants are a blaze!!
I've NEVER offered a Christian or Jew the options of convert to Islam or die. So, apparently, that's not a part of Islam.
DeucePrez 10 months ago
Bullshit! These Christians have been living in peace for God know how many centuries! Its all US crap that Pakistanis are paying for!
artistdigital 1 year ago
these reporters are idiots--they don't know islam.
isalmaphobically 1 year ago
The Jews at Khaybar were not at war with Muhammad when he ordered his warriors to attack them. Even his faithful son-in-law, Ali, whom he chose to head the mission was somewhat perplexed as to the pretext on which they were to attack this peaceful farming community so far away from Medina:
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
Muhammad said: 'Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory', and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger' (Muslim 31:5917)
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
The Jews were caught entirely be surprise, of course. Their wealth was stolen and their women and children distributed as slaves by the prophet of Islam to his men. Muhammad even took a woman for himself (after ordering the death of her husband).
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
Before his death, Muhammad sent his warriors against pagan Arab tribes, such as the al-Harith, demanding that they either convert to Islam or be wiped out (they opted for the Religion of Peace). On his deathbed, he cursed Christians and Jews (Bukhari (59:727)).
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
Muslims are taught to follow in the way of Muhammad. Putting two and two together, Muslims down through the centuries have forced Christians, Jews to accept Islam, either by bluntly offering them death as an alternative, or by making their lives so miserable (ie. taxes, denial of right, etc) that the conquered convert to Islam under the strain.
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
Surah 60:
8. Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
9. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zalimun (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah).
tryingtobewithyou 8 months ago
@1001Phoenix To all Christians who are trying to fool ignorants and mislead them about Islam, I want you to proudly share with us the Beauty and Peacefullness of Christianity especially in treating their Jews brothers for the past 2000 years. Please watch a video in youtube called " The Expulsion of Jews Throughout History " and let us hear from you on the humanity of Christianity in the matter of their tolerance towards others and especially their Jews brothers :)
mydreampark 4 months ago
Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, converted to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option.
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
From the Qur'an:
Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
From the Hadith:
Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them"
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
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1001Phoenix 1 year ago
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CHRISTIANS ATTEMPTS TO WIN OVER CONVERTS BY LYING , DEMONIZING AND EXPLOITING THE MUSLIMS IS UTTERLY SHAMEFUL. IF THE CHRISTIANS THEM SELVES ONLY KNEW WHAT THEIR OWN BIBLE SAYS ON THIS ISSUE OF APOSTATES, IN '' DUET 13 6-18'' GOD CLEARLY GIVES HIS VERDICT'S ON THE MATTER. but like always the Christians will give their infamous arguments that, ''We're quoting the Bible out of context...
sulyman751 1 year ago
great recruiting tool for the US military! HOOAH!!!
pliskin619 1 year ago
Atten muzzies=Muslims-Let's ensure your converts know:
1. Honor killing/Sharia Law is well practiced - come on Arabs, admit it - your converts will find out
2. Mo married 39 women - yes, read "Tafseer El Kortoby"
3. Mo was very educated - he wrote the Koran w/his uncle Warah eben Nofel
4. Mo=no miracles - no, the Koran was not a miracle (see #3)
5. The majority of Islam converts, convert back w/in three years
NYG1975 2 years ago
There is Govermnent and Court in the country. This is not a jungle. Everyone can has his own religion. Islam never force anyone to Islam. Stop this nonsense.
mydreampark 2 years ago 2
lol , actually this is how your ancestors were converted to islam
hmt444 1 year ago
@hmt444 but they will keep denying it. they dont know their ancestors were forced and raped to make tehm convert.
killintymm 1 year ago
@mydreampark wtf!! islam does force everyone to isalm.. u need to read ur own quran.. egyptians were killed if not converting to islam. mohammed was a pedofile a killer a raper and a thief.. I just dont understand how muslims can be that dumb into believeing that a SATANIC person like that filthy pig is a prophet.
MsProudtobecanadian 4 months ago
@MsProudtobecanadian Copts Encyclopedia " The Copts have been persecuted by almost every ruler of Egypt. Their Clergymen have been tortured and exiled even by their Christian brothers after the schism of Chalcedon in 451 A.D. and until the Arab's conquest of Egypt in 641 A.D...For the four centuries that followed the Arab's conquest of Egypt, the Coptic Church generally flourished and Egypt remained basically Christian. " Go and read history little girl. Ignorance is your biggest enemy.
mydreampark 4 months ago
@MsProudtobecanadian Jewish History Wikepedia " During the Middle Ages, Jews were generally better treated by Islamic rulers than Christian ones...Jews played prominent roles in Muslim courts, and experienced a "Golden Age" in Moorish Spain..Under Christians rule, Thousands of Jews were thrown into prison, tortured, and burned, until a project was formed to sweep all Spain clean of unbelievers..Queen Isabella of Spain issued an edict banishing all Jews from Spain " Go and read history Lil girl
mydreampark 4 months ago
No one can become muslim by force, this all is propaganda.
bouncer333 2 years ago
@bouncer333 you never read the koran or hadiths then.
Rshimy 2 years ago
if someone does that then they are acting un-islamically.. islam doesnt teach this violence
hmfy 2 years ago
@hmfy yea right u clearly havent read ur own filthy quran then.. well im not surprised about ur ignorance!!
quran 8:39: wage war on non muslims and kill them until they sumbit and the only religion is islam.
MsProudtobecanadian 4 months ago
out of context, this verse was meant 4a certain people &certain time, u havent even completed the verse!!! it allows fighting in self defence only, here is the context 8:38 Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place. the remaing of 8:39 which u omitted: And if they cease then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do
hmfy 4 months ago
continued:
this is the following verse
8:40 But if they turn away - then know that Allah is your protector. Excellent is the protector, and Excellent is the helper.
bible is more violent then
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34
what is that??? its u who dont seem to know ur bible!! lets not mention the old testiment..
let me ask u something did u read the whole quran?
hmfy 4 months ago
@MsProudtobecanadian To all Christians who are trying to fool ignorants and mislead them about Islam, I want you to proudly share with us the Beauty and Peacefullness of Christianity especially in treating their Jews brothers for the past 2000 years. Please watch a video in youtube called " The Expulsion of Jews Throughout History " and let us hear from you on the humanity of Christianity in the matter of their tolerance towards others and especially their Jews brothers :)
mydreampark 4 months ago