Clarkson should've added to his Hawkins analogy, something like "the U.S, a great Country, has NASA, full of Nobel prize winning scientists... even if the majority of it is retarded and spams our youtube page with illiterate HTML graffiti" ... or "the Soviet union, very impressive arsenal of nukes... even though it was an Orwellian nightmare" etc etc
Anyone got any ideas for Japan, Britain and Italy?
Here's what I don't understand: the old Dodge Charger looked fantastic, but was built poorly and drove poorly. Clarkson hated the Charger. Ironically, he loves the Lancia Stratos, a car which looked fantastic, but was built poorly and drove poorly (just watch the Hawk replica track test he did). Clarkson loved the Lancia.
@aymthebest It's hardly being a killjoy if I'm stating the truth. Clarkson loves the Stratos for the exact same reasons he hates the Charger. It's hard to take the guy seriously.
@marshknute THAT'S WHY NO ONE DOES. We love him nonetheless. You don't have to take someone seriously in order to respect, love, appreciate, sympathize with them.
@marshknute In what fucking universe do lancia's drive poorly? You don't win the rally 10 fucking times by having the same driving characteristics as a crude 'muscle car'. BTW the stratos he drove was a kit car, and even that doesn't drive poorly. Stop making shit up, and go spam one of the american car reviews they do.
@justnotcricket The Stratos handled well if you were an extremely competent driver. Clarkson certainly isn't and the Stig couldn't even handle the Hawk HF replica: he spun it twice and set the slowest lap time around the TG test track. It's like the Lotus T125 Clarkson drove: extremely fast, but impossible for 99% of the population to drive well. Unless you are that 1%, the car doesn't drive well.
@marshknute You expect 25/30 yr old car to do better on the track? kookoo kookoo. He spins every car, isn't a test otherwise. Crucially, to get to the stupidity of your original comment, Clarkson never said or thought it drove like crap. I could go on and on about why he's not inconsistent but 500 html characters isn't enough. It's sad that there are delusion, almost conspiratorial people like you who are allowed to post crap about supposed bias.
@justnotcricket Watch the video again, retard. THE STIG COULDN'T DRIVE IT AROUND THE TG TEST TRACK WITHOUT SPINNING. The Stig is a professional racing driver, and has been able to post blisteringly fast laps in the wet (the conditions under which he tested the Hawk HF3000). The Hawk was so damn difficult to drive, that he spun twice and nearly lost it around the first bend.
@justnotcricket In one of Clarkson's DVD's, he drove the Stratos and said, "at the limit, it will swap ends just like that [snaps fingers]." As I said before: it is a fantastic handling car in the hands of an extremely skilled driver. For the other 99% of the population, it is nearly impossible to drive quickly. Also in that DVD, he said that the Stratos has "the worst driving position in the entire world." Type "Top Gear , Jeremy Clarkson Lancia Stratos" into the search bar to see it.
@marshknute Words you've overlooked "at the limit". Listen spaz, why you can only think in binary or casually assume your beloved incestmobile the 'charger' would've achieved greatness (as opposed to just mediocreness, or even acceptableness) if only it was reliable is soooooo monumentally deluded and arrogant in the extreme, it's silly to try to quantify. So I wont. Just carry on thinking American cars are the bestest thing in the world ever 'from the greatest Country ever' etc etc and ...
@justnotcricket I never said I like the Charger. Personally, I hate it. That said, it has achieved greatness as evidence by it being one of the most desirable collectible cars in the world. Just look how much a mediocre version sold for on the last season of Wheeler Dealers. I only brought it up as an example: Clarkson criticized it for the same reasons he praised the Lancia. His inconsistency is what I don't appreciate.
@marshknute ... that we only pretend to dislike them... and just randomly hold them to inconsistent standards... and it's just irrational xenophobia etc etc. Honestly the ridiculousness of some of the American comments especially on TG reviews of american cars. The mustang video is the best for deluded comments, worth a good laugh.
I'l help you out, watch Clarksons who killed the British car industry and see his review of the marina and allegro. If you don't get it, you're the problem not him.
@justnotcricket You still haven't bothered to acknowledge the Stratos' difficulty to drive. It is a race-bred car after all, so it stands to reason that it should be easy to drive quickly. As evidence by the Stig's failed power lap, it is extremely difficult to drive at the limit. If a professional racing driver can't drive it, how can you expect anyone else to drive it? It will ultimately drive around slowly, looking great and making a good noise (exactly like the Charger).
@justnotcricket You're arguing the wrong thing: I'm not suggesting that old muscle cars were good cars. I despise nearly all of them. Of the ones I do like, I only like them for their looks and engine note, not their performance numbers. My argument is that Clarkson tested a terrible car with subjective greatness (Stratos) and loved it. He also tested a terrible car with subjective greatness (Charger) and hated it. Why the inconsistency?
@marshknute What exactly was that subjective criteria though! That's the point. You seem to think you know. But you clearly don't know what criteria he was using. The inconsistency is entirely in your head.
Like I said watch his marrina and allegro review, then come back to me. You clearly just don't get it. Seriously watch that video, you can find it on YT then you might just understand Clarkson doesn't just use a checklist especially not the one you judge his 'bias' by.
@justnotcricket Are you slow or just retarded? "What exactly was that subjective criteria though?" The Stratos is a car which is extremely difficult to drive at the limit, has one of the worst driving positions of any automobile ever built, has a cabin which is too small to accommodate two passengers, has all gauges in the wrong place, was slow in road guise and was notoriously unreliable. Despite that, it looked and sounded great--subjective values. B/c of those values, Clarkson likes it.
@marshknute Fuck me you are retarded. You're still comparing the driving characteristics of a fucking stratos to something designed by people living in the stone age!!!!! You can only think in binary, you are seriously retarded. seriously seriously seriously retarded.
@justnotcricket My original comment was a light-hearted remark about Clarkson hating one car for the same reasons he loved another. Even if you disagree with some of those reasons, the principle of my argument remains. I only made note of Clarkson's inconsistency. Hammond made the same observation in season 3: Clarkson said that the Mercedes 280SL and Audi TT were both 30K pounds, good looking and slow. Clarkson hated the TT and loved the Merc--Hammond criticized his inconsistency.
@marshknute It wasn't light-hearted, stop lying. "hating one car for the same reasons he loved another" again, that is categorically wrong, as has been explained many times. It's only the same reasons in your fantasy world where the charger is the same as a stratos not just in nominal terms but also according to clarkson's subjective analysis. wrong on both counts. I've explained JC's consistent subjectivity but you've invented a criterion for JC which doesn't match reality. Now stop polluting!
@justnotcricket The Stratos and Charger are both timeless classics--as road cars, they were truly awful, but as icons, they are brilliant. That's what Clarkson fails to acknowledge: the Charger has achieved cult status for very similar reasons the Stratos achieved cult status. Clarkson simply cannot appreciate the mindset that makes the Charger popular.
@justnotcricket You're just another blindly ignorant fanboy win an inability to make comprehensive comparisons. Anyone with half a brain can tell you that Clarkson is one of the most biased, unfair and close-minded journalists in the automotive world. Unfortunately, you would rather live in your own little fairy tale world where everything has a special meaning only to yourself. Don't be surprised when you become an eccentric babbling old man abandoned at a retirement home by your family.
@marshknute 'Fan boys' only exist in the U.S and are people with an inferiority complex. I'm opposed to you casually and don't try to back out of this, SERIOUSLY asserting that we have a random and xenophobic bias towards American machinery, as opposed to just disliking shit machinery regardless of where it's from. Don't try to back out of that one, that was the subtext and point of your html graffiti.
@justnotcricket At what point in any of my comments did I say that Top Gear has a "random and xenophobic bias towards American machenery?" Not once, nor did I ever hint at it. You brought it up (look at your old comment if you don't believe me). You still fail to comprehend my argument, and I don't know how to say it any more clearly. You're not worth my breath.
@marshknute It wasn't a quote spaz, that is what you were asserting. That WAS the subtext of your comment. Your argument is well understood, and well understood to be spam made out of bridge dwelling trolls. Take your comprehension issues elsewhere and leave this Lancia page alone... Fuck ...off. I'll even add a smiley face :) but seriously... fuck off.
@justnotcricket Perhaps you have an inability to judge one's tone in a video comment, but I assure you my original comment was light-hearted. Reread it again. Did I call Clarkson an idiot? No. Did I accuse him of having an irrational hatred of American? No. I ended with the playful remark, "Thank you Mr. Clarkson for consistency!" The exclamation point should indicate that as a playfully sarcastic remark. You're the one who decided to come out guns a blazin' spreading the hate.
@marshknute Stop backtracking, your assertion WAS that he simply must not like American cars, stop trying make yourself sound reasonable now. It's the same story with every U.S spammer on a TG page. You do the same routine one of the plebs on Jerry Springer used to do. Some fat whore in spandex flaunting her ugliness saying "you jus' jealous, haters gonna hate" whatever the fuck that means.
Leave this page for car talk and take issues else where. btw accusations of bias, always serious. always.
@justnotcricket It's pathetic frankly, everyone else wants to talk about cars with petrol heads from all over the world, and you fuckers ruin that. Coming on here first with your inferior standards of basic literacy education. And randomly accusing everyone else of this and that, simply because one of your useless corporations made a shit product. It's tragic that your inferiority complex would express itself in this form. And ruin it for everybody else. Go away, please. pretty please.
@justnotcricket If you want me to go away, you just need to stop replying. You've already made yourself look like a fool. You are making up arguments and just getting yourself more annoyed. You're certifiably insane. I tell you what I am going to do: I'm going to post the same comment 20 times. If you read it enough, you might be able to get it into your thick skull that what you are arguing has no relation to what I am arguing. Alright, here goes:
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
@justnotcricket Has it sunk in yet? I am so confused as to how you think I am supporting American cars or criticizing Clarkson for being xenophobic. How can I support American cars if I call them shit? I simply cannot begin to comprehend where you got your assertions from. I will keep responding for as long as I have to, in an attempt to get through to you. If you don't want that to happen, just stop commenting so we can both leave this video alone.
@marshknute Jeeeezus fucking Christ!!!!!!!!!!! Stop shifting the goal posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're not talking about whether you like shitty American cars or not. Or whatever straw man you'll invent next. Just stop spamming illiteracy about imaginary inconsistency and go away. He's not inconsistent, you have comprehension issues, this is clear for everyone to see, now go away. Your battle has been lost, Chuck Norris didn't arrive with delta force, and you're a twat.
@justnotcricket You're exhibiting every symptom of someone who has lost an argument: you change your story once you've lost. First you accuse me of blindly loving all American cars, and once you reread the comments and find that to be false, you pretend like you never made that accusation. Here are your exact words: "just accept that your beloved GM, Chrysler and ford make shit cars." Not once in any of my comments did I mention GM, Chrysler or Ford--you just made it up.
@justnotcricket You can change your story as many times as you want, and deny the inconsistency that myself and Richard Hammond have noted. I suggest you quit and stop embarrassing yourself. I'll simply comment again--the only way to save your precious Lancia video from more of your bullshit is to stop commenting.
@justnotcricket How fucking stupid are you? I SAID I DISLIKE THE CHARGER. NO ME GUSTA EL CHARGER. I don't know how to be any clearer. Read this out loud so it gets into your thick skull: I--don't--like--the--Charger. In what possible way am I defending American cars if I openly criticized the only American car I named? My first comment was a light-hearted remark to Clarkson's inconsistency. Should I repost it and write "lol" at the end to make it easier to comprehend?
@marshknute Yet more comprehension issues and psycho babble straw man arguments. I've already addressed any substance your original comment could've been accused of having, yet you keep stating the word inconsistent over and over again, as though repetition would make it true. Stop making shit up, you were serious, and you were wrong. Now I'm done with this... fuck off. Adios.
@justnotcricket There was no subtext intended in my original comment: The only substance it contained was the playfully sarcastic sentence at the end--no harm intended. As evidence by your last comment (the one not directed at me), you are just a xenophobic chauvinist who will condemn an entire nation if you have a simple disagreement with one of its citizens. Oh, well. Ignorance is bliss--if it makes you happy, carry on.
@marshknute "you are just a xenophobic chauvinist who will condemn an entire nation if .." See, at no point did I do any of the sort, yet its the imaginary argument you've been putting up here all along. I think you need to get out of that weird blend of arrogance & inferiority complex you have and just accept that your beloved GM, Chrysler and ford (actually ford is good to average) make shit cars. And that disliking them is not a conspiracy. Just get over it and leave this Lancia page alone.
@justnotcricket Now you are becoming blind to your own rambling. You stereotyped the majority of Americans without bothering to look up a single statistic about our nation's intelligence. Once more, I never once defended American cars. The only one I mentioned (Charger) I said I hated. You'd have to be pretty thick-headed to think that I am being an American patriot. You brought your own hatred of America into the argument--just reread your own comments and see for yourself.
@justnotcricket You surely must know that you are believing in a false reality: you seem to think that I am defending American cars, when I have done nothing but criticize them. Please reread every comment we have posted and you will see for yourself.
You would make a great english teacher--you love reading into subtext that isn't there. Honestly, stop making a fool of yourself and accept that you overreacted and made yourself look like an ignorant xenophobic fool.
@justnotcricket As an automotive journalist, you are obligated to demonstrate a car's appeal before passing your own subjective judgement over the vehicle. Richard Hammond is brilliant at doing that with American and Australian cars. James May is brilliant at doing that with classic cars and mainstream cars. Clarkson skips the first part and immediately describes a car as good or bad based solely on his subjective criteria. It's unprofessional, and thus why I respect Hammond and May more.
@marshknute Ahh I see, so you're only supposed to talk about things you like!! I get it now. *sarcasm*
The only difference between hammond & clarkson is that one likes them and one doesn't. Based solely on that you've declared one biased. No wonder you media landscape is fucked up and has fox 'news' in it. And no as an auto journo you're not obligated to do those things.
@justnotcricket As an automotive journalist, you are obligated to demonstrate a car's appeal before passing your own subjective judgement over the vehicle. Richard Hammond is brilliant at doing that with American and Australian cars. James May is brilliant at doing that with classic cars and mainstream cars. Clarkson skips the first part and immediately describes a car as good or bad based solely on his subjective criteria. It's unprofessional, and thus why I respect Hammond and May more.
@justnotcricket "Why is it a failure to 'not acknowledge' something as an icon?" It is a failure b/c there is obviously something more to a car than Clarkson leads us to believe. How can you take an automotive journalist seriously when he declares a car terrible when the purchase prices for a 40 year old model can go as high as $110,000? Clarkson obviously failed to understand the car properly if a "terrible car" gains worldwide fame and desire.
@marshknute Shifting goalposts again, yaaaaawwn. watch 'why do people like british sports cars' where he ridicules mg's austin healeys and their owners etc etc. Again you're arbitarily declaring him biased by fiat because you disagree with him.
Lancia should freed itself from FIAT now. FIAT maybe has saved Lancia's life back on the classics, but now, i think Lancia is ready to be independent again, and start making their own cars again (not the sort of a FIAT's car with a Lancia badge on it)
I like that they're "reborn-ing" the Stratos again. And i hope they did too with the Delta; that Delta FIAT make is just.... ridiculous.....
This clip had some of the best lines Top Gear ever used. "It's like a rorty sorbet", "As pretty as the sun setting over Charlize Theron", Jeremy's definition of greatness. Top Gear at their zenith.
@kg117nike thats definitely New Zealand. As an Englishman, I can vouch that we have MUCH more than sheep and rain! Cows, goats, drizzle, hail, mist, fog.....nobody else has more words for 'water falling from the sky' cos there's so fuckin much of it!
@MrOldCrow oddly enough i live next door to a man who owns a craptastic and aged bently and guess what happened, it was an church organ that fell on his car
my old man had a Fulvia. he had to get rid of it in the 80s after I was born, but to this day he says it's the best car he has ever driven, better than the 3-series beemer he drives now..... Top Gear got this one right, Lancia made the best cars ever
Hahaha the piano
PENGthing123 2 weeks ago
@camaroXpharaoh
Basically the forza cars ha
tom17reesbowen 2 weeks ago
7:47 classic Top Gear hahaha =P
Johny40Se7en 2 weeks ago
What Season And Episode Is This?
nabilzzzzzzzzzzzzzz4 3 weeks ago
look at the numberplate at 6:35
mauke10 4 weeks ago
I liked the video, but I wish they would have included the Delta, Stratos, and/or the stradale.
camaroXpharaoh 4 weeks ago
That Lancia with the suicide doors, is that older than a Chrysler Airflow?
JETZcorp 4 weeks ago
oh shit me son, that Fulvia soundtrack, I NEVER WANT IT TO STOP REVVING
3214342 1 month ago
i want lancia back
saiiad737 1 month ago
Fulvia sounds sesky!
skybombLFA 1 month ago
Lancia is like Top Gear Ambitious bu Rubbish
ktoski1 1 month ago
My God the Fulvia is pretty.
It is one of the best looking cars I have ever seen.
MrMadpenguin 1 month ago in playlist Season 14
@Ktmzqw maybe this will answer your fail /watch?v=ooiFJcezdoo
emilsgargurnis 1 month ago
@emilsgargurnis LOL. Had forgot about that, and i´m a HIMYM fan! Cool story though
Ktmzqw 1 month ago
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emilsgargurnis 1 month ago
I'm american and a girl and I F#$%^in love thier "Not Racing"! <3 <3
KazokuMugiwara 1 month ago
which song at 1:48?
iluvanimalporn 2 months ago
@emilsgargurnis you did it wrong you idiot
MonsteriuM 2 months ago in playlist Season 14
Clarkson should've added to his Hawkins analogy, something like "the U.S, a great Country, has NASA, full of Nobel prize winning scientists... even if the majority of it is retarded and spams our youtube page with illiterate HTML graffiti" ... or "the Soviet union, very impressive arsenal of nukes... even though it was an Orwellian nightmare" etc etc
Anyone got any ideas for Japan, Britain and Italy?
justnotcricket 2 months ago
What's the song at 1:30 ????
NZ77NZ 2 months ago
@NZ77NZ Even the chaps at finalgear haven't pinned it. Can't help you :(
aymthebest 2 months ago
Here's what I don't understand: the old Dodge Charger looked fantastic, but was built poorly and drove poorly. Clarkson hated the Charger. Ironically, he loves the Lancia Stratos, a car which looked fantastic, but was built poorly and drove poorly (just watch the Hawk replica track test he did). Clarkson loved the Lancia.
Thank you Mr. Clarkson for consistency.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Thank you for being such a killjoy dreary pedant.
aymthebest 2 months ago
@aymthebest It's hardly being a killjoy if I'm stating the truth. Clarkson loves the Stratos for the exact same reasons he hates the Charger. It's hard to take the guy seriously.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute THAT'S WHY NO ONE DOES. We love him nonetheless. You don't have to take someone seriously in order to respect, love, appreciate, sympathize with them.
aymthebest 2 months ago
@aymthebest Pedantry is good :) He's not a pedant, he just has comprehension issues.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@marshknute In what fucking universe do lancia's drive poorly? You don't win the rally 10 fucking times by having the same driving characteristics as a crude 'muscle car'. BTW the stratos he drove was a kit car, and even that doesn't drive poorly. Stop making shit up, and go spam one of the american car reviews they do.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket The Stratos handled well if you were an extremely competent driver. Clarkson certainly isn't and the Stig couldn't even handle the Hawk HF replica: he spun it twice and set the slowest lap time around the TG test track. It's like the Lotus T125 Clarkson drove: extremely fast, but impossible for 99% of the population to drive well. Unless you are that 1%, the car doesn't drive well.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute You expect 25/30 yr old car to do better on the track? kookoo kookoo. He spins every car, isn't a test otherwise. Crucially, to get to the stupidity of your original comment, Clarkson never said or thought it drove like crap. I could go on and on about why he's not inconsistent but 500 html characters isn't enough. It's sad that there are delusion, almost conspiratorial people like you who are allowed to post crap about supposed bias.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Watch the video again, retard. THE STIG COULDN'T DRIVE IT AROUND THE TG TEST TRACK WITHOUT SPINNING. The Stig is a professional racing driver, and has been able to post blisteringly fast laps in the wet (the conditions under which he tested the Hawk HF3000). The Hawk was so damn difficult to drive, that he spun twice and nearly lost it around the first bend.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket In one of Clarkson's DVD's, he drove the Stratos and said, "at the limit, it will swap ends just like that [snaps fingers]." As I said before: it is a fantastic handling car in the hands of an extremely skilled driver. For the other 99% of the population, it is nearly impossible to drive quickly. Also in that DVD, he said that the Stratos has "the worst driving position in the entire world." Type "Top Gear , Jeremy Clarkson Lancia Stratos" into the search bar to see it.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Words you've overlooked "at the limit". Listen spaz, why you can only think in binary or casually assume your beloved incestmobile the 'charger' would've achieved greatness (as opposed to just mediocreness, or even acceptableness) if only it was reliable is soooooo monumentally deluded and arrogant in the extreme, it's silly to try to quantify. So I wont. Just carry on thinking American cars are the bestest thing in the world ever 'from the greatest Country ever' etc etc and ...
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket I never said I like the Charger. Personally, I hate it. That said, it has achieved greatness as evidence by it being one of the most desirable collectible cars in the world. Just look how much a mediocre version sold for on the last season of Wheeler Dealers. I only brought it up as an example: Clarkson criticized it for the same reasons he praised the Lancia. His inconsistency is what I don't appreciate.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute ... that we only pretend to dislike them... and just randomly hold them to inconsistent standards... and it's just irrational xenophobia etc etc. Honestly the ridiculousness of some of the American comments especially on TG reviews of american cars. The mustang video is the best for deluded comments, worth a good laugh.
I'l help you out, watch Clarksons who killed the British car industry and see his review of the marina and allegro. If you don't get it, you're the problem not him.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You still haven't bothered to acknowledge the Stratos' difficulty to drive. It is a race-bred car after all, so it stands to reason that it should be easy to drive quickly. As evidence by the Stig's failed power lap, it is extremely difficult to drive at the limit. If a professional racing driver can't drive it, how can you expect anyone else to drive it? It will ultimately drive around slowly, looking great and making a good noise (exactly like the Charger).
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute like I've said, you can only think in binary. *sigh*
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You're arguing the wrong thing: I'm not suggesting that old muscle cars were good cars. I despise nearly all of them. Of the ones I do like, I only like them for their looks and engine note, not their performance numbers. My argument is that Clarkson tested a terrible car with subjective greatness (Stratos) and loved it. He also tested a terrible car with subjective greatness (Charger) and hated it. Why the inconsistency?
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute What exactly was that subjective criteria though! That's the point. You seem to think you know. But you clearly don't know what criteria he was using. The inconsistency is entirely in your head.
Like I said watch his marrina and allegro review, then come back to me. You clearly just don't get it. Seriously watch that video, you can find it on YT then you might just understand Clarkson doesn't just use a checklist especially not the one you judge his 'bias' by.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Are you slow or just retarded? "What exactly was that subjective criteria though?" The Stratos is a car which is extremely difficult to drive at the limit, has one of the worst driving positions of any automobile ever built, has a cabin which is too small to accommodate two passengers, has all gauges in the wrong place, was slow in road guise and was notoriously unreliable. Despite that, it looked and sounded great--subjective values. B/c of those values, Clarkson likes it.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Fuck me you are retarded. You're still comparing the driving characteristics of a fucking stratos to something designed by people living in the stone age!!!!! You can only think in binary, you are seriously retarded. seriously seriously seriously retarded.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket My original comment was a light-hearted remark about Clarkson hating one car for the same reasons he loved another. Even if you disagree with some of those reasons, the principle of my argument remains. I only made note of Clarkson's inconsistency. Hammond made the same observation in season 3: Clarkson said that the Mercedes 280SL and Audi TT were both 30K pounds, good looking and slow. Clarkson hated the TT and loved the Merc--Hammond criticized his inconsistency.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute It wasn't light-hearted, stop lying. "hating one car for the same reasons he loved another" again, that is categorically wrong, as has been explained many times. It's only the same reasons in your fantasy world where the charger is the same as a stratos not just in nominal terms but also according to clarkson's subjective analysis. wrong on both counts. I've explained JC's consistent subjectivity but you've invented a criterion for JC which doesn't match reality. Now stop polluting!
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket The Stratos and Charger are both timeless classics--as road cars, they were truly awful, but as icons, they are brilliant. That's what Clarkson fails to acknowledge: the Charger has achieved cult status for very similar reasons the Stratos achieved cult status. Clarkson simply cannot appreciate the mindset that makes the Charger popular.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute "...as icons, they are brilliant. That's what Clarkson fails to acknowledge"
Why is it a failure to 'not acknowledge' something as an icon i.e to be an iconoclast? more retardation.
"Clarkson simply cannot appreciate the mindset that makes the Charger popular"
Which he does ...*drum rolls*... consistently. You don't understand how Clarkson judges cars yet carry on whinging as though you do.
Now fuck off and whinge somewhere else, leave this page for lancia talk. FUCK OFF!!!
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You're just another blindly ignorant fanboy win an inability to make comprehensive comparisons. Anyone with half a brain can tell you that Clarkson is one of the most biased, unfair and close-minded journalists in the automotive world. Unfortunately, you would rather live in your own little fairy tale world where everything has a special meaning only to yourself. Don't be surprised when you become an eccentric babbling old man abandoned at a retirement home by your family.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute 'Fan boys' only exist in the U.S and are people with an inferiority complex. I'm opposed to you casually and don't try to back out of this, SERIOUSLY asserting that we have a random and xenophobic bias towards American machinery, as opposed to just disliking shit machinery regardless of where it's from. Don't try to back out of that one, that was the subtext and point of your html graffiti.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket At what point in any of my comments did I say that Top Gear has a "random and xenophobic bias towards American machenery?" Not once, nor did I ever hint at it. You brought it up (look at your old comment if you don't believe me). You still fail to comprehend my argument, and I don't know how to say it any more clearly. You're not worth my breath.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute It wasn't a quote spaz, that is what you were asserting. That WAS the subtext of your comment. Your argument is well understood, and well understood to be spam made out of bridge dwelling trolls. Take your comprehension issues elsewhere and leave this Lancia page alone... Fuck ...off. I'll even add a smiley face :) but seriously... fuck off.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Perhaps you have an inability to judge one's tone in a video comment, but I assure you my original comment was light-hearted. Reread it again. Did I call Clarkson an idiot? No. Did I accuse him of having an irrational hatred of American? No. I ended with the playful remark, "Thank you Mr. Clarkson for consistency!" The exclamation point should indicate that as a playfully sarcastic remark. You're the one who decided to come out guns a blazin' spreading the hate.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Stop backtracking, your assertion WAS that he simply must not like American cars, stop trying make yourself sound reasonable now. It's the same story with every U.S spammer on a TG page. You do the same routine one of the plebs on Jerry Springer used to do. Some fat whore in spandex flaunting her ugliness saying "you jus' jealous, haters gonna hate" whatever the fuck that means.
Leave this page for car talk and take issues else where. btw accusations of bias, always serious. always.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket It's pathetic frankly, everyone else wants to talk about cars with petrol heads from all over the world, and you fuckers ruin that. Coming on here first with your inferior standards of basic literacy education. And randomly accusing everyone else of this and that, simply because one of your useless corporations made a shit product. It's tragic that your inferiority complex would express itself in this form. And ruin it for everybody else. Go away, please. pretty please.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket If you want me to go away, you just need to stop replying. You've already made yourself look like a fool. You are making up arguments and just getting yourself more annoyed. You're certifiably insane. I tell you what I am going to do: I'm going to post the same comment 20 times. If you read it enough, you might be able to get it into your thick skull that what you are arguing has no relation to what I am arguing. Alright, here goes:
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket I have not praised, defended or supported a single American car in any of my past comments. The only American car that I did reference (Dodge Charger), I criticized for having a terrible build quality and ride. I didn't suggest that Clarkson has an irrational hatred of American cars--I light-heartedly criticized his inconsistency (a similar inconsistency which was also noted by Hammond in Season 3 amongst two German cars).
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marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Has it sunk in yet? I am so confused as to how you think I am supporting American cars or criticizing Clarkson for being xenophobic. How can I support American cars if I call them shit? I simply cannot begin to comprehend where you got your assertions from. I will keep responding for as long as I have to, in an attempt to get through to you. If you don't want that to happen, just stop commenting so we can both leave this video alone.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Jeeeezus fucking Christ!!!!!!!!!!! Stop shifting the goal posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're not talking about whether you like shitty American cars or not. Or whatever straw man you'll invent next. Just stop spamming illiteracy about imaginary inconsistency and go away. He's not inconsistent, you have comprehension issues, this is clear for everyone to see, now go away. Your battle has been lost, Chuck Norris didn't arrive with delta force, and you're a twat.
Le FIN.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You're exhibiting every symptom of someone who has lost an argument: you change your story once you've lost. First you accuse me of blindly loving all American cars, and once you reread the comments and find that to be false, you pretend like you never made that accusation. Here are your exact words: "just accept that your beloved GM, Chrysler and ford make shit cars." Not once in any of my comments did I mention GM, Chrysler or Ford--you just made it up.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You can change your story as many times as you want, and deny the inconsistency that myself and Richard Hammond have noted. I suggest you quit and stop embarrassing yourself. I'll simply comment again--the only way to save your precious Lancia video from more of your bullshit is to stop commenting.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket How fucking stupid are you? I SAID I DISLIKE THE CHARGER. NO ME GUSTA EL CHARGER. I don't know how to be any clearer. Read this out loud so it gets into your thick skull: I--don't--like--the--Charger. In what possible way am I defending American cars if I openly criticized the only American car I named? My first comment was a light-hearted remark to Clarkson's inconsistency. Should I repost it and write "lol" at the end to make it easier to comprehend?
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Yet more comprehension issues and psycho babble straw man arguments. I've already addressed any substance your original comment could've been accused of having, yet you keep stating the word inconsistent over and over again, as though repetition would make it true. Stop making shit up, you were serious, and you were wrong. Now I'm done with this... fuck off. Adios.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Have fun being delusional. See you in Hell.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket There was no subtext intended in my original comment: The only substance it contained was the playfully sarcastic sentence at the end--no harm intended. As evidence by your last comment (the one not directed at me), you are just a xenophobic chauvinist who will condemn an entire nation if you have a simple disagreement with one of its citizens. Oh, well. Ignorance is bliss--if it makes you happy, carry on.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute "you are just a xenophobic chauvinist who will condemn an entire nation if .." See, at no point did I do any of the sort, yet its the imaginary argument you've been putting up here all along. I think you need to get out of that weird blend of arrogance & inferiority complex you have and just accept that your beloved GM, Chrysler and ford (actually ford is good to average) make shit cars. And that disliking them is not a conspiracy. Just get over it and leave this Lancia page alone.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
@justnotcricket Now you are becoming blind to your own rambling. You stereotyped the majority of Americans without bothering to look up a single statistic about our nation's intelligence. Once more, I never once defended American cars. The only one I mentioned (Charger) I said I hated. You'd have to be pretty thick-headed to think that I am being an American patriot. You brought your own hatred of America into the argument--just reread your own comments and see for yourself.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket You surely must know that you are believing in a false reality: you seem to think that I am defending American cars, when I have done nothing but criticize them. Please reread every comment we have posted and you will see for yourself.
You would make a great english teacher--you love reading into subtext that isn't there. Honestly, stop making a fool of yourself and accept that you overreacted and made yourself look like an ignorant xenophobic fool.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket As an automotive journalist, you are obligated to demonstrate a car's appeal before passing your own subjective judgement over the vehicle. Richard Hammond is brilliant at doing that with American and Australian cars. James May is brilliant at doing that with classic cars and mainstream cars. Clarkson skips the first part and immediately describes a car as good or bad based solely on his subjective criteria. It's unprofessional, and thus why I respect Hammond and May more.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Ahh I see, so you're only supposed to talk about things you like!! I get it now. *sarcasm*
The only difference between hammond & clarkson is that one likes them and one doesn't. Based solely on that you've declared one biased. No wonder you media landscape is fucked up and has fox 'news' in it. And no as an auto journo you're not obligated to do those things.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
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@justnotcricket As an automotive journalist, you are obligated to demonstrate a car's appeal before passing your own subjective judgement over the vehicle. Richard Hammond is brilliant at doing that with American and Australian cars. James May is brilliant at doing that with classic cars and mainstream cars. Clarkson skips the first part and immediately describes a car as good or bad based solely on his subjective criteria. It's unprofessional, and thus why I respect Hammond and May more.
marshknute 2 months ago
@justnotcricket "Why is it a failure to 'not acknowledge' something as an icon?" It is a failure b/c there is obviously something more to a car than Clarkson leads us to believe. How can you take an automotive journalist seriously when he declares a car terrible when the purchase prices for a 40 year old model can go as high as $110,000? Clarkson obviously failed to understand the car properly if a "terrible car" gains worldwide fame and desire.
marshknute 2 months ago
@marshknute Shifting goalposts again, yaaaaawwn. watch 'why do people like british sports cars' where he ridicules mg's austin healeys and their owners etc etc. Again you're arbitarily declaring him biased by fiat because you disagree with him.
justnotcricket 2 months ago
7:50 this lough is epic
ayahalom 3 months ago
Lancia should freed itself from FIAT now. FIAT maybe has saved Lancia's life back on the classics, but now, i think Lancia is ready to be independent again, and start making their own cars again (not the sort of a FIAT's car with a Lancia badge on it)
I like that they're "reborn-ing" the Stratos again. And i hope they did too with the Delta; that Delta FIAT make is just.... ridiculous.....
orihalchon 3 months ago
Just because something's unreliable doesn't mean it isn't great??? YES IT DOES, Clarkson! YOU said it YOURSELF about American cars!!
SecretUser2000 3 months ago
I can't think of a better show than Top Gear
GOD 3 months ago 2
Lancia pronounciation
asismanaydin 4 months ago
the bonnet flew away in just 5 mins how good is that:\
krazedkami9988 4 months ago
kereta paling bodoh
pangkatan 4 months ago
@pangkatan hang la bodoh...
shobin05 3 months ago
Does anyone know the song from 0:00 to 0:15?
Man it sounds so tranquil
Naoxide 6 months ago
Just because something is unreliable doesnt mean it isnt great. Steven Hawkins, great bloke even though a lot of him doesnt work.
minja714 6 months ago
damn the lancia stratos is beautiful!
shAdOwstAlkEr945 6 months ago
Lancia Dedra: the most complete sedan ever built.
No German car in that price range can even hold a candle to the Dedra!
IceBreaker1881 6 months ago
Collection of porn?? Mine is a little bit different.. well its noticeable..
heavygamer24 7 months ago
This clip had some of the best lines Top Gear ever used. "It's like a rorty sorbet", "As pretty as the sun setting over Charlize Theron", Jeremy's definition of greatness. Top Gear at their zenith.
juicysushisan 7 months ago
I don´t know why, but I love pianos HAHA
BiBa316 7 months ago
Never doubted it...
yeeeeee93 8 months ago
What is the song at 7:01 to 7:50
please I need to know it is urgent
Nym356 8 months ago
7:46 hahah
gooner775 9 months ago
Lancia delta rally car FTW!!!
MrAboynamedsue 9 months ago
@MrAboynamedsue Lancia Fulvia alot more FTW
hejjagedu 8 months ago
thumbs up if you were conscious of your breathing after 3:22
Arnold624 9 months ago
27 people are morris marina owners club
167CR 9 months ago
no lancia stratos :(
willche89 10 months ago
lol
vidmam155 10 months ago
27 Morris Marina owners :D
amblaga 10 months ago
ma vaffanculo inglesi di merda!
marodruid 10 months ago
i love it when they throw a piano on that marina XD
TheJoost690 10 months ago
so ironical from 3:35 to 4:56
gabbycosman 10 months ago
They are beautiful cars but they are built from poop.
maxhardt 11 months ago
"it's like driving, a roti sobek!" haha how can you compare a lancia to a bread, still jeremy's epic quotes
dhanabandot 11 months ago
jeremy's laugh at 7:52 is just priceless XD
ahcproductions 1 year ago 3
what about new lancias?
cesaretiv87 1 year ago
too much pre arranged bullshit...where is this old and relevant top gear i loved so much
badabumbadabing1 1 year ago
this...is a collection of pornography :))
hagisays 1 year ago 8
Pretty carses. Ooooh.
ZechsMerquise73 1 year ago
hahahahha
bobo29able 1 year ago
Hahaha! Damn piano!
netmatrix75 1 year ago
lol sheep at 1:51
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WTF? this shit has no brakes?
playerx95 1 year ago
Double pianos.. What does it meaaaaan?
BehindBen 1 year ago 6
there is nothing in england except sheep and rain
kg117nike 1 year ago 3
@kg117nike
You sure you're not talking about New Zealand?
Tinman11223344 1 year ago
@kg117nike thats definitely New Zealand. As an Englishman, I can vouch that we have MUCH more than sheep and rain! Cows, goats, drizzle, hail, mist, fog.....nobody else has more words for 'water falling from the sky' cos there's so fuckin much of it!
pisswizzard 1 year ago
lancias = pornography
somuchhorsepower 1 year ago 4
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somuchhorsepower 1 year ago
26 people are from the morris marina owners club.
tohtorigyro 1 year ago 38
@tohtorigyro Three more joined them XD
leylandcarsloverslea 3 months ago
3:36 LMAO
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has the bumper come off.... i believe it has. yes haha
TheAwkwardjames 1 year ago
has the bumber come off.... i believe it has. yes haha
TheAwkwardjames 1 year ago
What a great ending. Lol. And the car falling apart as they were driving it. Priceless
palefaced1 1 year ago
ha, the piano got hit by a piano
wilymcgee 1 year ago
The best review ever of a car and i never heard of Lancia before this....wow
al1nn 1 year ago
Wait.. did they die by piano!
scetchymc 1 year ago
7:52 Wait for it... 7:55 There it is! XD
TraustiGeir 1 year ago
@TinTacle I belive he said "Go hit Hammond" and then "I've hit hammon"
xmateuL2 1 year ago
piano over piano :)
MidnightRedemption 1 year ago
What an original ending topgear. You guys and your creativity.
BaldwinGTi 1 year ago
my father had a lancia fluvia zaggato not so long ago and it was a nice car with a nice sound
TheGanjaboy1995 1 year ago
And while we were not racing some more...
couchfort 1 year ago
23 people are morrismen xP
nielslernou 1 year ago
the piano joke never gets old...
MrOldCrow 1 year ago 202
@MrOldCrow oddly enough i live next door to a man who owns a craptastic and aged bently and guess what happened, it was an church organ that fell on his car
kingofburnttoast 8 months ago
the flag girl look very cute
hahahahaha
lancia 4 life
sinistersidtan 1 year ago 4
22 people drive Morris Marinas
Konformation07 1 year ago 4
@KANATADOMPIZ And they said lightning doesn't strike the same place twice too, if you know what I mean.
MwRYum 1 year ago
What about the Stratos????????
MrJustice01 1 year ago
my old man had a Fulvia. he had to get rid of it in the 80s after I was born, but to this day he says it's the best car he has ever driven, better than the 3-series beemer he drives now..... Top Gear got this one right, Lancia made the best cars ever
Cellsolid 1 year ago
Frack, I had to reload this video 30 some times to not watch the advertisement.
XthTerrorOfDeath 1 year ago 2
Where's the part when the Lancia caught fire?
riDDimann 1 year ago
i couldn't give a flying fuck how many marinas they smash but its the pianos that seems a total waste!
Jaytheozzi 1 year ago 5
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA i love Jeremy's laugh at the end!
leabuelo 1 year ago
"It really is as pretty as the Sun setting over Charlize Theron"
ROFL!
ozoneman4 1 year ago
i need to put a piano on my roof now.
Jazzybreaks 1 year ago
where is the lancia delta?
icecoldbrew92 1 year ago 3