I met with plenty Iranians who exiled from their countires after the fall of Shah. They are great people. Problem is Iran's government not people. And about the aryanism thing Persian aryanism is different than Hitler's bullshit and Persian version is the true one there are even Jews ho support it. By the way if Persian people would be evil there would be no Jew who live in Iran today despite that fanatic government.
Beauty by what standards? You think you know a "truth" about beauty. What you have is an opinion about beauty, not a truth.
This movie isn't for people who would have a notion to be distracted from a brilliant story about the human condition, by being concerned with a prepackaged notion of what beauty is.
You should watch Fast and the Furious, or Terminator or something.
Truth can't be a truth, its not a physical things its only a mental thing. So what, she put herself out there to be judge, so I am one that judges. Yeah, sure.
You dont know what her intentions are, you dont know what her secret goals are. I dont care what the movie alone is about, its about her. Its her biography in a graphic novel obviously you're not paying attention to the other books she wrote. Shes obviously flaunting off how westernized she is and how she was born westernized and how cool that is via Embroideries even if its called the secret life of ALL Iranian women. Read in btwn the lines, theres more than meets the eye. You dont understand.
There is no need for you to engage in a conversation based on what my education level is. Clearly you are challenged by my statement even after I gave you rational reasoning for why I should be allowed to judge her. I dont care if its ignorance or not, I really always heard of Iranian women being the beauty of the world and I come here .. and see this. My opinions are formed from primary sources, what she wrote, its called analyzing data based on literature. I'd always choose random over bias.
"Clearly you are challenged by my statement even after I gave you rational reasoning"
Lol.
Not challenged, horrified. There is a big difference. Also, you consider that rational?
Now I am starting to wonder if you are even in high school or not.
The reason why that is important, is because I am not going to waste my time debating with a person that does not have the advantage of cognitive development yet
Besides you base your opinion of Iranian women on ONE example? Brilliant
Thats your opinion, there is a such thing as child prodigy and I'm sure there are many young adults smarter than you, and having higher IQ's. This is not a debate, I'm correcting what you misunderstood. If you dont like it, thats just way too bad. Well this is not the only example, this is one of the most famous example. Her being SOO IRANIAN and flaunting about her pride it seems she herself wants to represent Iran in a way. So since she does .. man didn't know they looked that .. ugh ..
You seem to make things more vague than they already are. Its out of question that you're any smarter than me. I made no argument, its simple you attempted to prove me wrong and you didn't have any evidence, proof, or valid statement therefore you're out of your mind to think you "stomped" me. I gave you examples, her book, what did you give me? Shit.
Well you have no evidence either, there is no way that you can prove me wrong by denying my statements. Once again data analysis is not only for science but is effective in literature too. Look at all her books, about her life, yes, that's normal for an autobiography and whether she wants to entertain people or not she still puts herself out there as this outgoing, seductive, open minded, sexy, hot whatever word you'd like to use person. Stop denying the truth and covering the flaws.
Opinions include words like " I like " and " I dont like " and many other literary elements, but I didnt use that therefore it is similar to hypothesis and hypotheses can't be proven right or wrong they can only be supported by evidence. Now if you cant argue with me and if you have no point ( which you clearly dont ) then stop quoting me and give up. Why are you defending a whore? Oh thats right, she speaks for all of your type. Oops, my bad.
"Just because you didn't use the correct form to state an opinion doesn't mean you weren't stating one."
What I'm saying is a statement.
My hypothesis doesn't require any quotes to accompany it because it really is a hypothesis, no she's ugly thats my opinion, but she wants to reveal herself and make herself appear sexy, seductive and all that other Marilyn Monroe stuff is what she comes off as.
Its best you shut up before you embarrass yourself any further. Anyway back to my point - damn, what an ugly botox filled baboon. Hope you aint all like that.
This is a hypothesis & it requires much analyzing & studying of literature in order for it to understand. You're an amateur flaunting so proudly about your age difference when it clearly doesn't make a difference. Seems like you left common sense in the loo.
Dont be so quick to assume that I am "little". This is no argument between you & me, its a correction btwn the smart & the blind. You being the subject of blind. No, honestly my people claimed that Iranians were drop dead gorgeous. Lies ..
I'll say what I said again except with more description ; I never knew Iranian women looked so ugly, I expected drop dead beauty. But this looks everything like a drag queen. Not even Japanese drag queen, those actually look feminine and are worthwhile. This is just a man with a wig trying to be sexy by writing books about sexuality. You know very well I made a point and you're trying to cover that up by manipulating me with my age factor, it ain't working. Save this for your mother.
"You know very well I made a point and you're trying to cover that up by manipulating me with my age factor, it ain't working. Save this for your mother."
You made NO point. Just a bunch of extremely immature, cognitively undeveloped ranting.
So YOU should save that for your mother. Because that is the only person that will put up with it.
Out here you are making comments in the world, and you should expect people will refute you.
No one knows why she wrote the book, she aint going to tell the truth, you can't count on that fat hoe. You can't keep sugar coating everything. I did make a point, first rebuttle was against you b/c you did point out my age, and use that as an excuse to run away from an argument. Scared that you're wrong? I bet you are. Persepolis may not be about sexuality but Embroideries sure is, and within Persepolis, sex comes up allot. She mentions her sex life and coats it with " freedom ", yeah right.
."and use that as an excuse to run away from an argument."
"Scared that you're wrong? I bet you are"
Lol. I didn't run away from an argument. You haven't even provided on yet. ALl you have done is state your immature, speculative theories, and shallow judgements about someone's physical appearance.
I did however comment on the potential futility of debating with you and my lack of desire to change your diapers.
" You haven't even provided on yet. ALl you have done is state your immature, speculative theories, and shallow judgements about someone's physical appearance."
Oh its the kettle who calls the pot black. You havent proved anything either, as I stated above I dont need proving I've spent 2 semesters analyzing, if you can't admit that I have evidence supporting it, than thats just too damn bad.
Taste your own medicine, this quote get back method is quiet annoying and proves how pathetic you are
Oh no. Secret intentions are totally supported. She sends messages through her writing like all artists and writers do. Isn't that what writing is about? Communication. For instance, let me give you an example of what you forgot in first grade, Fables. It doesn't means rabbits can talk, its btwn the lines where the message lies. This course is called " English Literature " - Iranians aren't a race, its an ethnicity. Therefore I cant be racist. Learn about yourself and your race as a human.
so on and so forth, when you sign up for anything that involves your personal information, you never write down " Iranian " matter of fact you write " Asian " because the country of Iran lies in Asia, and therefore you are Asian in race, Iranian in ethnics, and most likely Muslim in creed. So I can't possibly be racist because I like Asians being one myself. I dont care how much you sugar coat, but dont avoid the point.
2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
I don't know how many different dictionaries you need me to quote.
It is you that is avoiding the point. There is not a dictionary out there that won't support my definition of a race.
If it goes for a creed then hating Muslims or hating Jews would be racist. But since racist is only for races you can't be " racist " when you are against Jews. Thats why theres a word called ANTI SEMETIC, retard.
There is the Aryan race, but your RACE can't be Iranian, your NATIONALITY can be Iranian, and thats the most, your skull structure can be Indo European or Caucasian or Mongloid but YOUR RACE IS ASIAN. THEREFORE I CANT BE RACIST BUT I CAN BE PREJUDICE OR STEREOTYPICAL.
I'm not defying the dictionary, the dictionary doesn't say that Irani's or Indians or Somalians or Greeks or Australians are a race, therefore the dictionary does not support your statement, making you wrong. Stop being a stubborn snot faced bitch, you can't admit that you're wrong, when you are. The hypothesis started on one topic and now since you're a wimp and refuse to accept that you're wrong you decided to drive it to whether a word is right or not. Either way, waste of my time. Adios.
You're a moron that fails to attempt anything productive. Not to mention a waste of my time. You can't support anything you say, you cover your flaws ( which you seem to have everywhere ) with these foolish remarks and name calling. Well guess what, I happen to be an expert in that area too not to mention much more intelligent. Asshole.
It was actually used wrongly. A slave owner that hates Black people would be racist, if this slave owner like Somalians, Nigerians, South Africans and Zimbabweans but can't stand anything else then he would not be considered a racist because all those are of the negroid/african race, he would be titled for whatever else his excuses for not liking the rest are. Racist goes for ONLY races not CREED or ETHNICITIES or NATIONALITIES. You misunderstood the use of the word. You're mentally challenged.
You know what, I have no time to mess around with another slut ogre mix. I'm not racist, and Iranian is not a race and thats pretty clear, when go to sign up for things it doesn't state all the nationalities. Iran is a country, being from there would not only make you from persian ethnics but also nationality would be Iranian your race is Asian. GET THAT STRAIGHT.
I dont need to, I no longer have to be productive for someone of such low standards that can't even understand what a definition of a word means. You take things out of context and for a fact you're stupid because all you do is quote and space and type some personal attacks or criticize. You really got time on your watch to be stupid. I'm not going around quoting to prove one a hypocrite bc every is, some more than others but you are truly a kettle.
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics : people of all races, colors, and creeds.
When Hitler was around he bragged about the ARYAN race when Iranians are also referred to as that but he didnt mean Iranians, it was misunderstood and taken for another group ; ei slavics. Therefore Iranian is NOT a race, it is a NATIONALITY with PERSIAN ETHNICS.
Iranians are a group of people but they aren't a race, Iranians have Caucasian and Indo European skulls some more than others, and sometimes even a little bit Mongloid. Classifying one by their skull define theirs background and originality.
Once again I will provide you with the definition you so stupidly misunderstood ;
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics : people of all races, colors, and creeds.
Iranian is not a race, you don't see Iranian when you mark off race, do you? No I didnt think so. And nor do you see Caucasian, but its a fact that those are your roots, but Indians can also be Caucasian, and I can hate Iranians but love Indians therefore I cannot be racist. Moron.
I provided 3 dictionary definitions that support my definition of race
You provide ONE to support yours
Lol
And you keep avoiding addressing those definitions, you just pretend like they don't exist. And the all the examples I gave where you are a hypocrite
"productive"
"Slut ogre mix:"
Lol
You are a little baby. Just a whining little brat who is continuing to argue to try to save face after getting your argument stomped, over, and over, and over again.
I told you before, those dictionaries we misunderstood yet again by you. You know what? If you're hoping to rely only on dictionary sources then you sure are stupid. Because in the federal states of the USA, I know damn well that Iranian is not a race, you dont check in Iranian, it aint a race, its a nationality. You cant go around saying MY RACE IS IRANIAN, your race is ASIAN. Fine, you can go around looking like a dumb ass, I even gave you an example from History. HITLER.
What you can't comprehend, in your quest to break everything down into either/or components, is that there is more than one correct usage for the word race.
I acknowledge that your definition of black, white, etc. Is correct.
It's just that the word "race" has many more usages than simple "negro", "caucasion", etc.
Those dictionary definitions I provided are CORRECT btw, and you are the one who is stupid for repeatedly pretending like they aren't valid.
You have a valid point, although I wish that weren't the case. Having different definitions for that word only leads to confusion. 'Race' should simply refer to your ancestral origins, skin colour, skull shape etc.
@RashaTwain Listen asshole, Asian is a race. Asian race consists of whatever falls under Asia. Israel falls under Asia, because when you look at the map Israel is on the Southwestern part of Asia, so does Lebanon. Hence Israelis are ASIANS despite their European characteristics. There is no difference. IRANIAN ISNT A RACE, ITS A NATIONALITY. YOU ARE OF IRAN. YOU ARE IRANIAN, BUT YOUR RACE IS ASIAN BECAUSE YOU FALL UNDER ASIA. Racially you MAY be Caucasian, but you are still ASIAN.
@RashaTwain Iran ISNT a race, it IS a nationality because it is a NATION. Note that the word ' nation ' is inside nationality. There is no contradiction, I'm only adding to my point. I don't care what Iran translates to, Pakistan also translates to land of the pure, does it mean they are ALL pure? I could careless. There is a difference between ethnicity and race. If your race is Iranian, then where does you being Asian fit in? What is your ethnicity if your race alone is Iranian? Iranian again?
You don't have the right to categorize religion and race together. Most of the ppl in Europe, North Africa, West Asia (the Middle East and Iran) up through the Caucus region and into European Russia are Caucasians, racially, since there were other influences and merchants mixing in, the only thing you can be sure of, is that they're in Asia. Hence, Asian.
Aryan is a language group. The Nazis came up with some weird ideas about race, and misused the word to describe themselves.
I just saw this movie for the first time about an hour ago, and was blown away. In order to for any Westerner to get a grasp of what growing up in Iran is like, and why the situation is like it is right now, you really should see this film
I've just seen the film and agree completely with pictishmojo's comment. Having until recently been in a relationship with a half Iranian girl, and having met her family who left Iran after the revolution (with some horrifying stories to tell), this film helped me to understand their background. They're people like the rest of us - not bloody terrorists!
Not just that you found out but, there is one more thing I want to tell you about. There has been not even a single record of a terrorist in the world that he/she was indicated to be Iranian.
The film did point out the Pahlavis had modernised the country but they also held 3000 political prisoners. Marjane and family supported the revolution that overthrew shah but not the islamic republic which replaced it. According to the story it had 300,000 political prisoners. The film put a human face on all this and she's seems to me like a very intelligent witty woman ...so would also have disagree with you on that 'whore' bit. Anyway think you should lighten up mate. Try having a bit a fun!
watching the first 5 minutes of this whore's cartoon film, I knew this bitch was a bitter old Qajar.
They have a fantasy of reinstating their pathetic dynasty by blaming everything on the Pahlavis...The Pahlavis brought Iran out of the darkness cast by Qajar retards who signed away half the country to the Russians. Interesting that the French mad this pathetic movie....
The racists want to use this film against the Persians but the Persian pride has no equal and Satrapi explain them that she will never forget his origin
this film is objective and not usefull for dirty racists, sorry !
Les iranien(nes) aiment trop leur pays et leur culture Perse pour la renier, ils ne sont pas comme les arabes, du tout, et les occidentaux n'arriveront jamais à les en éloigner comme ils le font avec les bougnoules. La fierté Perse n'a d'égale.
Satrapi raconte bien ce qu'il s'est passé avec cette révolution islamique, et ce film est d'une grande objectivité.
C'est Catherine Deneuve bouffon! La légende du ciné ! T'as 12 ans ou quoi ?Regarde un peu ce qu'elle a fait comme films dernièrement et tu verras qu'elle est loin d'être raçiste pauvre tâche!
I can only ask one question to the few comments I have seen and that is, How is this an anti Iranian movie. She is proud of her heritage, and does not once speak ill of the Iranian people. If anything it gives people more of a sense that the people in Iran are just as human as those anywhere else in the world.
its anti-iranian in that it speaks the truth of how people in Iran and Iranians in diaspora feel about the islamic regime....shes actually on Irans death list...but yea from the aspect of Iranian people...she makes us look good...or let me rephrase that....correctly represented.
Because who ever is this jerk with his question, is trying to embarasse her in the media and imply; why you forgot so soon where you came from and don't want to talk to iranian reporters. I love how Marjane handled it and said because they just want to talk about politics and not my movie and that is not my cup of tea, who ever wants to talk about movie come forward. You go girl, we are all so proud of her. I thought her story did all of us a big favor as far as giving Iranians a different image
I'll say, before I read the book(years ago) and watched the movie(recently)my outlook on Iran was completely ignorant, it was such an eye opener for me! This woman is as strong as she is beautiful.
Deneuve is certainly the screen grabber for me ... had to watch this clip a few times before I could pay full attention to Marjane who is also very cute looking. I love the way Deneuve acts very protective towards Marjane - see her expression change when the journalist asks the Q and she inhales and has this look of slight exasperation.
Yes I did see that clip of Deneuve and Bjork. She had her arm linked with Bjork's the whole time and sort of shepherding her through the crowd. Bjork looked like she was gonna throw up. :-) Did you see the clip of the after-awards party for that movie 'Dancer in the dark' at Cannes? There's a much more cuter and at-ease Bjork hugging Deneuve. Search for 'Bjork at a party'
Yes, that Canne after-party vid is one of my favorites! They're so adorable ... you can tell that Bjork admires Deneuve so much, and why shouldn't she?
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obscurenote; 100s of Iranian films have won Cannes top prizes so far but none have been publicised like this. Basically the whole western media and apparatus are working hard on anything that is anti Iran even a film that is based on the memories of a 10 year old girl! How authentic and accurate can that be? So I repeat, it is crap.
Perhaps there is a political agenda to it - though Marjena herself says again and again there is none - but the artistry is amazing, and the personal touch to it. And therefore I say this is not crap. Not to say that Iraniann cinema hasn't produced better works, and perhaps you are right about other Iranian works not being oublicised to such a great extent as this, but admit it, Persepolis is not without its merits.
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I don't know where you get your information from but actually according to the distributer (Sony Classics) it's gross box office and DVD sale so far has been only $22 million world wide (only $4.4 million in the USA) and ranked 248th in 2007-8 and it can only go down as new films are released in 2008.
hmm interesting. not judging from sales, persepolis does seem to be a hot buzz. anyway, i know we disagree... my previous comment was just me being not wanting to lose. hahahah. i respect ur difference in opinion.
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Iranian journalists know the full story of the revolution, the older ones were part of it themselves directly and she is afraid that they may ask her questions that discredit her totally. You can see the horror on the face of the woman on the left when the Iranian guy asks the question.
Hi! Thanks for the translation. Marjame did raise an interesting point - about not wanting her work to be seen as polemic ... I think the journalist's question was veering towards being a bit more emotional, but Marjane handled it very well with such grace..
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whatever she said about Iran 50percent is not true , and she didnt show Iran as good as it is . and she is someone who made this movie for money . shame to you
She looks different on her book cover. Nothing like this. Plus she was thinner. But other than that. The hair the face, everything looks different. She's barely recognizable here.
I find her so attractive even though I don't understand a word she is saying. Through her movie I know she is a very smart earnest woman, I really like her.
IMPIE INFIDÈLE CHIENNE DE JUIF ELLE A TRAHIE ISLAM!
999basille 2 months ago
so was this whole movie true??
eagerbeavers1130 2 months ago
I met with plenty Iranians who exiled from their countires after the fall of Shah. They are great people. Problem is Iran's government not people. And about the aryanism thing Persian aryanism is different than Hitler's bullshit and Persian version is the true one there are even Jews ho support it. By the way if Persian people would be evil there would be no Jew who live in Iran today despite that fanatic government.
Boromir33 10 months ago
Wow that's Marjane!? She rules! And I LOVED her movie!!
FoxyGal18 1 year ago
she is The women.
MultiEdwarda 1 year ago
i like the subtitles nice job!!!
rhyseeroo 1 year ago 2
can someone tell me if she has an accent in french?
or does she souns naturally french?
eleanor7rigby 1 year ago
@eleanor7rigby she has no accent
6Agathe6 1 year ago
she's so beautiful, looks like her drawings. :3
lyndsay909tv 1 year ago 7
It's the other way round, actually.
Samuraionthewall 1 year ago
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I expected Iranians to look like drop dead beauty but oh well.
nazbites 2 years ago
Beauty by what standards? You think you know a "truth" about beauty. What you have is an opinion about beauty, not a truth.
This movie isn't for people who would have a notion to be distracted from a brilliant story about the human condition, by being concerned with a prepackaged notion of what beauty is.
You should watch Fast and the Furious, or Terminator or something.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Truth can't be a truth, its not a physical things its only a mental thing. So what, she put herself out there to be judge, so I am one that judges. Yeah, sure.
nazbites 2 years ago
@nazbites
The point of this movie is not for people to decide if she is hot or not.
I think most people understand that concept.
Apparently some don't.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
You dont know what her intentions are, you dont know what her secret goals are. I dont care what the movie alone is about, its about her. Its her biography in a graphic novel obviously you're not paying attention to the other books she wrote. Shes obviously flaunting off how westernized she is and how she was born westernized and how cool that is via Embroideries even if its called the secret life of ALL Iranian women. Read in btwn the lines, theres more than meets the eye. You dont understand.
nazbites 2 years ago
@nazbites
I don't know if you are still in high school or what.
You don't know what her goals are either.
You are projecting your endemic viewpoint onto her intentions.
In any case, if what you say is true, what does that have to do with whether Iranian women are attractive or not?
You displayed your ignorance profusely in that comment.
If I am to guess at her intentions based on what she wrote, and yours based on what you wrote, I am voting for hers over yours.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
There is no need for you to engage in a conversation based on what my education level is. Clearly you are challenged by my statement even after I gave you rational reasoning for why I should be allowed to judge her. I dont care if its ignorance or not, I really always heard of Iranian women being the beauty of the world and I come here .. and see this. My opinions are formed from primary sources, what she wrote, its called analyzing data based on literature. I'd always choose random over bias.
nazbites 2 years ago
@nazbites \
"Clearly you are challenged by my statement even after I gave you rational reasoning"
Lol.
Not challenged, horrified. There is a big difference. Also, you consider that rational?
Now I am starting to wonder if you are even in high school or not.
The reason why that is important, is because I am not going to waste my time debating with a person that does not have the advantage of cognitive development yet
Besides you base your opinion of Iranian women on ONE example? Brilliant
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Thats your opinion, there is a such thing as child prodigy and I'm sure there are many young adults smarter than you, and having higher IQ's. This is not a debate, I'm correcting what you misunderstood. If you dont like it, thats just way too bad. Well this is not the only example, this is one of the most famous example. Her being SOO IRANIAN and flaunting about her pride it seems she herself wants to represent Iran in a way. So since she does .. man didn't know they looked that .. ugh ..
nazbites 2 years ago
"there is a such thing as child prodigy and I'm sure there are many young adults smarter than you"
You don't fit either of these descriptions.
Either way, I stomped on all of your arguments. They were all extremely weak.
If you don't like it, that's just way too bad.
You are just arguing now without any reason behind your position, you are just arguing now to save face.
When people are immature, trying to win the argument is more important to them than having a rational position.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
You seem to make things more vague than they already are. Its out of question that you're any smarter than me. I made no argument, its simple you attempted to prove me wrong and you didn't have any evidence, proof, or valid statement therefore you're out of your mind to think you "stomped" me. I gave you examples, her book, what did you give me? Shit.
nazbites 2 years ago
Your examples were ALL flawed.
You talk about having no evidence, but YOU have no evidence of her "secret intentions" etc.
That is all just your own stupid projections as to why she wrote the book.
You have ZERO evidence that is why, but you want to spout it off like it's a fact.
It's not a fact. You actually don't know hwy why wrote the book.
So who is making non valid statements with no evidence?
Stop being such a immature little brat.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Well you have no evidence either, there is no way that you can prove me wrong by denying my statements. Once again data analysis is not only for science but is effective in literature too. Look at all her books, about her life, yes, that's normal for an autobiography and whether she wants to entertain people or not she still puts herself out there as this outgoing, seductive, open minded, sexy, hot whatever word you'd like to use person. Stop denying the truth and covering the flaws.
nazbites 2 years ago
"she still puts herself out there as this outgoing, seductive, open minded, sexy, hot whatever word you'd like to use person. Stop denying the truth"
If it's a "truth" that means you can prove it.
So prove that her intentions are what you say they are.
Prove it.
Oh that's right, you can't prove it as a truth, because it is not a fact, it's your opinion.
Which was my premise to begin with. So I was right, and I still am right.
Fast and the Furious awaits you.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Opinions include words like " I like " and " I dont like " and many other literary elements, but I didnt use that therefore it is similar to hypothesis and hypotheses can't be proven right or wrong they can only be supported by evidence. Now if you cant argue with me and if you have no point ( which you clearly dont ) then stop quoting me and give up. Why are you defending a whore? Oh thats right, she speaks for all of your type. Oops, my bad.
nazbites 2 years ago
Just because you didn't use the correct form to state an opinion doesn't mean you weren't stating one.
So your "hypothesis" is that she is ugly??
That is not a hypothesis you dumbass, it's an OPINION.
Are you actually retarded? Seriously, how can you not understand that?
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
What you're saying is an opinion
"Just because you didn't use the correct form to state an opinion doesn't mean you weren't stating one."
What I'm saying is a statement.
My hypothesis doesn't require any quotes to accompany it because it really is a hypothesis, no she's ugly thats my opinion, but she wants to reveal herself and make herself appear sexy, seductive and all that other Marilyn Monroe stuff is what she comes off as.
nazbites 2 years ago
Its best you shut up before you embarrass yourself any further. Anyway back to my point - damn, what an ugly botox filled baboon. Hope you aint all like that.
nazbites 2 years ago
Lol. Lol. Lol. You are such a stupid little tard.
"Hope you aint all like that. "
Yet another example of your wrongness.
How many times can you be wrong in one argument?
I am not Iranian you dumbass. I have no cultural bias here. But it doesn't surprise me that you make such retarded statements.
Age isn't even a factor any more. I was never as ignorant as you are.
What is your ethnicity BTW. Is there a cultural rivalry with Iranians?
Be honest, God is watching.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
This is a hypothesis & it requires much analyzing & studying of literature in order for it to understand. You're an amateur flaunting so proudly about your age difference when it clearly doesn't make a difference. Seems like you left common sense in the loo.
Dont be so quick to assume that I am "little". This is no argument between you & me, its a correction btwn the smart & the blind. You being the subject of blind. No, honestly my people claimed that Iranians were drop dead gorgeous. Lies ..
nazbites 2 years ago
I'll say what I said again except with more description ; I never knew Iranian women looked so ugly, I expected drop dead beauty. But this looks everything like a drag queen. Not even Japanese drag queen, those actually look feminine and are worthwhile. This is just a man with a wig trying to be sexy by writing books about sexuality. You know very well I made a point and you're trying to cover that up by manipulating me with my age factor, it ain't working. Save this for your mother.
nazbites 2 years ago
"You know very well I made a point and you're trying to cover that up by manipulating me with my age factor, it ain't working. Save this for your mother."
You made NO point. Just a bunch of extremely immature, cognitively undeveloped ranting.
So YOU should save that for your mother. Because that is the only person that will put up with it.
Out here you are making comments in the world, and you should expect people will refute you.
Persepolis is not about being sexy you dumbass.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
No one knows why she wrote the book, she aint going to tell the truth, you can't count on that fat hoe. You can't keep sugar coating everything. I did make a point, first rebuttle was against you b/c you did point out my age, and use that as an excuse to run away from an argument. Scared that you're wrong? I bet you are. Persepolis may not be about sexuality but Embroideries sure is, and within Persepolis, sex comes up allot. She mentions her sex life and coats it with " freedom ", yeah right.
nazbites 2 years ago
."and use that as an excuse to run away from an argument."
"Scared that you're wrong? I bet you are"
Lol. I didn't run away from an argument. You haven't even provided on yet. ALl you have done is state your immature, speculative theories, and shallow judgements about someone's physical appearance.
I did however comment on the potential futility of debating with you and my lack of desire to change your diapers.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
" You haven't even provided on yet. ALl you have done is state your immature, speculative theories, and shallow judgements about someone's physical appearance."
Oh its the kettle who calls the pot black. You havent proved anything either, as I stated above I dont need proving I've spent 2 semesters analyzing, if you can't admit that I have evidence supporting it, than thats just too damn bad.
Taste your own medicine, this quote get back method is quiet annoying and proves how pathetic you are
nazbites 2 years ago
I've spent 2 semesters analyzing.
Wow. Two WHOLE semesters? And the culmination of your studies is that Iranian women are "ugly" and Marjane has "secret intentions"?
LOL. LOL. LOL.
What was the name of that course?
Subjective Cultural Prejedice, and Endemic Brainwashing?
Get over youself you racist little prick.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Oh no. Secret intentions are totally supported. She sends messages through her writing like all artists and writers do. Isn't that what writing is about? Communication. For instance, let me give you an example of what you forgot in first grade, Fables. It doesn't means rabbits can talk, its btwn the lines where the message lies. This course is called " English Literature " - Iranians aren't a race, its an ethnicity. Therefore I cant be racist. Learn about yourself and your race as a human.
nazbites 2 years ago
"She sends messages through her writing like all artists and writers do. Isn't that what writing is about?"
Yes writing is intended to send a message. Somtimes there is even a secret message. Such as Alchemical works.
But to assume that there are "secret intentions" simply because something has been written is baseless and absolutely flawed.
"Iranians aren't a race, its an ethnicity. Therefore I cant be racist.".
By that logic white people can't be racist against black people. Good logic.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Black is a race
White is a race
Asian is a race
Pacific Islander is a race
so on and so forth, when you sign up for anything that involves your personal information, you never write down " Iranian " matter of fact you write " Asian " because the country of Iran lies in Asia, and therefore you are Asian in race, Iranian in ethnics, and most likely Muslim in creed. So I can't possibly be racist because I like Asians being one myself. I dont care how much you sugar coat, but dont avoid the point.
nazbites 2 years ago
Websters:
Race:
1 : a breeding stock of animals
2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
I don't know how many different dictionaries you need me to quote.
It is you that is avoiding the point. There is not a dictionary out there that won't support my definition of a race.
Your rhetoric can't change that fact.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
If it goes for a creed then hating Muslims or hating Jews would be racist. But since racist is only for races you can't be " racist " when you are against Jews. Thats why theres a word called ANTI SEMETIC, retard.
There is the Aryan race, but your RACE can't be Iranian, your NATIONALITY can be Iranian, and thats the most, your skull structure can be Indo European or Caucasian or Mongloid but YOUR RACE IS ASIAN. THEREFORE I CANT BE RACIST BUT I CAN BE PREJUDICE OR STEREOTYPICAL.
nazbites 2 years ago
Keep trying to defy the dictionary if you want.
But just to make you happy, I will change me statement.
Stop being a prejudiced bigoted little prick.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
I'm not defying the dictionary, the dictionary doesn't say that Irani's or Indians or Somalians or Greeks or Australians are a race, therefore the dictionary does not support your statement, making you wrong. Stop being a stubborn snot faced bitch, you can't admit that you're wrong, when you are. The hypothesis started on one topic and now since you're a wimp and refuse to accept that you're wrong you decided to drive it to whether a word is right or not. Either way, waste of my time. Adios.
nazbites 2 years ago
You are such an ignorant retard.
You are so wrong, and YOU cant admit it, and you try to flip it around.
Like a little baby.
Or maybe a serious mental condition.
Fuck off you immature little troglodyte.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
You're a moron that fails to attempt anything productive. Not to mention a waste of my time. You can't support anything you say, you cover your flaws ( which you seem to have everywhere ) with these foolish remarks and name calling. Well guess what, I happen to be an expert in that area too not to mention much more intelligent. Asshole.
nazbites 2 years ago
"Productive"???
You are such a relentless hypocrite.
You contradict yourself every time you speak.
Productive, you mean like...
leaving a comment that all Iranian women are ugly?
You are not more intelligent than me. And you never will be.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
"decided to drive it to whether a word is right or not."
You are such an unbelievable hypocrite, you were the one who challenged my usage of the word racist in the first place.
God, you are a retard.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
It was actually used wrongly. A slave owner that hates Black people would be racist, if this slave owner like Somalians, Nigerians, South Africans and Zimbabweans but can't stand anything else then he would not be considered a racist because all those are of the negroid/african race, he would be titled for whatever else his excuses for not liking the rest are. Racist goes for ONLY races not CREED or ETHNICITIES or NATIONALITIES. You misunderstood the use of the word. You're mentally challenged.
nazbites 2 years ago
"It was actually used wrongly".
It wasn't, but even if it was, my point was that you found fault with me for:
"you decided to drive it to whether a word is right or not"
You challenge my usage of a word, then think it's wrong for me to supply definitions from a dictionary to support the usage.
This is what I mean about cognitive development.
Persons with developed thought processes don't do that.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
You know what, I have no time to mess around with another slut ogre mix. I'm not racist, and Iranian is not a race and thats pretty clear, when go to sign up for things it doesn't state all the nationalities. Iran is a country, being from there would not only make you from persian ethnics but also nationality would be Iranian your race is Asian. GET THAT STRAIGHT.
nazbites 2 years ago
"You know what, I have no time to mess around with another slut ogre mix"
Oh that's very "productive"
Address all the times I have pointed out that you contradict yourself.
Go ahead. Address it.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
I dont need to, I no longer have to be productive for someone of such low standards that can't even understand what a definition of a word means. You take things out of context and for a fact you're stupid because all you do is quote and space and type some personal attacks or criticize. You really got time on your watch to be stupid. I'm not going around quoting to prove one a hypocrite bc every is, some more than others but you are truly a kettle.
nazbites 2 years ago
"Racist goes for ONLY races "
The definitions I listed below from the dictionaries CLEARLY apply to Iranians as a group.
I challenge you to demonstrate that as false.
Take the challenge, unless you are scared you can't.
Good luck.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
It is false.
race 2 |reɪs| |reɪs|
noun
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics : people of all races, colors, and creeds.
When Hitler was around he bragged about the ARYAN race when Iranians are also referred to as that but he didnt mean Iranians, it was misunderstood and taken for another group ; ei slavics. Therefore Iranian is NOT a race, it is a NATIONALITY with PERSIAN ETHNICS.
Making me NOT RACIST.
nazbites 2 years ago
A family tribe people or nation belonging to the same stock.
A class or kind of people unified by shared interests habits or characteristics.
A group of persons related by common decent or heredity.
Demonstrate who those dictionary definitions do not relate to Iranians as a group.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
Iranians are a group of people but they aren't a race, Iranians have Caucasian and Indo European skulls some more than others, and sometimes even a little bit Mongloid. Classifying one by their skull define theirs background and originality.
nazbites 2 years ago
Once again I will provide you with the definition you so stupidly misunderstood ;
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics : people of all races, colors, and creeds.
Iranian is not a race, you don't see Iranian when you mark off race, do you? No I didnt think so. And nor do you see Caucasian, but its a fact that those are your roots, but Indians can also be Caucasian, and I can hate Iranians but love Indians therefore I cannot be racist. Moron.
nazbites 2 years ago
I provided 3 dictionary definitions that support my definition of race
You provide ONE to support yours
Lol
And you keep avoiding addressing those definitions, you just pretend like they don't exist. And the all the examples I gave where you are a hypocrite
"productive"
"Slut ogre mix:"
Lol
You are a little baby. Just a whining little brat who is continuing to argue to try to save face after getting your argument stomped, over, and over, and over again.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
I told you before, those dictionaries we misunderstood yet again by you. You know what? If you're hoping to rely only on dictionary sources then you sure are stupid. Because in the federal states of the USA, I know damn well that Iranian is not a race, you dont check in Iranian, it aint a race, its a nationality. You cant go around saying MY RACE IS IRANIAN, your race is ASIAN. Fine, you can go around looking like a dumb ass, I even gave you an example from History. HITLER.
nazbites 2 years ago
What you can't comprehend, in your quest to break everything down into either/or components, is that there is more than one correct usage for the word race.
I acknowledge that your definition of black, white, etc. Is correct.
It's just that the word "race" has many more usages than simple "negro", "caucasion", etc.
Those dictionary definitions I provided are CORRECT btw, and you are the one who is stupid for repeatedly pretending like they aren't valid.
Prove that they are not correct.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
You have a valid point, although I wish that weren't the case. Having different definitions for that word only leads to confusion. 'Race' should simply refer to your ancestral origins, skin colour, skull shape etc.
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RashaTwain 1 year ago
@RashaTwain Listen asshole, Asian is a race. Asian race consists of whatever falls under Asia. Israel falls under Asia, because when you look at the map Israel is on the Southwestern part of Asia, so does Lebanon. Hence Israelis are ASIANS despite their European characteristics. There is no difference. IRANIAN ISNT A RACE, ITS A NATIONALITY. YOU ARE OF IRAN. YOU ARE IRANIAN, BUT YOUR RACE IS ASIAN BECAUSE YOU FALL UNDER ASIA. Racially you MAY be Caucasian, but you are still ASIAN.
nazbites 1 year ago
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RashaTwain 1 year ago
@RashaTwain Iran ISNT a race, it IS a nationality because it is a NATION. Note that the word ' nation ' is inside nationality. There is no contradiction, I'm only adding to my point. I don't care what Iran translates to, Pakistan also translates to land of the pure, does it mean they are ALL pure? I could careless. There is a difference between ethnicity and race. If your race is Iranian, then where does you being Asian fit in? What is your ethnicity if your race alone is Iranian? Iranian again?
nazbites 1 year ago
@RashaTwain How could you say Asian isn't a race? What is Asian if it isn't a race?
nazbites 1 year ago
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RashaTwain 1 year ago
You don't have the right to categorize religion and race together. Most of the ppl in Europe, North Africa, West Asia (the Middle East and Iran) up through the Caucus region and into European Russia are Caucasians, racially, since there were other influences and merchants mixing in, the only thing you can be sure of, is that they're in Asia. Hence, Asian.
Aryan is a language group. The Nazis came up with some weird ideas about race, and misused the word to describe themselves.
nazbites 1 year ago
You're absolutely right. I hate it when people fail to differentiate between nationality and race. They are two entirely different things.
moodini99 1 year ago
race:
noun
1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2. a population so related.
These definitions easily apply to Iranians as a group.
2bornot2b1984 2 years ago
hey, she's hot
hisoj 2 years ago 3
i just want to get down on my knees and blow her, then propose. shese the best <3
modshroom 2 years ago 2
ahahaha me too man X]
PieceofMindmusic 2 years ago
So she basically used David B.'s style to make a movie. How nice.
bobbycratchit 2 years ago
I just saw this movie for the first time about an hour ago, and was blown away. In order to for any Westerner to get a grasp of what growing up in Iran is like, and why the situation is like it is right now, you really should see this film
HughJeeNJ 2 years ago 3
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hypocrite woman, see her shaking of fear and next one her
nachilo7 2 years ago
I've just seen the film and agree completely with pictishmojo's comment. Having until recently been in a relationship with a half Iranian girl, and having met her family who left Iran after the revolution (with some horrifying stories to tell), this film helped me to understand their background. They're people like the rest of us - not bloody terrorists!
zepnut1 2 years ago 32
@zepnut1
Not just that you found out but, there is one more thing I want to tell you about. There has been not even a single record of a terrorist in the world that he/she was indicated to be Iranian.
021music 1 year ago
The film did point out the Pahlavis had modernised the country but they also held 3000 political prisoners. Marjane and family supported the revolution that overthrew shah but not the islamic republic which replaced it. According to the story it had 300,000 political prisoners. The film put a human face on all this and she's seems to me like a very intelligent witty woman ...so would also have disagree with you on that 'whore' bit. Anyway think you should lighten up mate. Try having a bit a fun!
pictishmojo 2 years ago 14
can someone explain this to me?????
bghjkl3 2 years ago
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watching the first 5 minutes of this whore's cartoon film, I knew this bitch was a bitter old Qajar.
They have a fantasy of reinstating their pathetic dynasty by blaming everything on the Pahlavis...The Pahlavis brought Iran out of the darkness cast by Qajar retards who signed away half the country to the Russians. Interesting that the French mad this pathetic movie....
DontBelieveJewsNews 2 years ago
The racists want to use this film against the Persians but the Persian pride has no equal and Satrapi explain them that she will never forget his origin
this film is objective and not usefull for dirty racists, sorry !
claybe 2 years ago
"je suis prête à parler avec qui que ce soit et avec les iraniens avant tout le monde bien évidemment."
claybe 2 years ago
1:02
claybe 2 years ago
Les iranien(nes) aiment trop leur pays et leur culture Perse pour la renier, ils ne sont pas comme les arabes, du tout, et les occidentaux n'arriveront jamais à les en éloigner comme ils le font avec les bougnoules. La fierté Perse n'a d'égale.
Satrapi raconte bien ce qu'il s'est passé avec cette révolution islamique, et ce film est d'une grande objectivité.
claybe 2 years ago
je sais pas elle a une tete de raciste, mais Satrapi comme aucun iranien va renier son Pays, tentative de la pute blonde échoué LOL
claybe 2 years ago
et la blonde a gauche a vraiment une tete de pute
Vive l'Iran
claybe 2 years ago
C'est Catherine Deneuve bouffon! La légende du ciné ! T'as 12 ans ou quoi ?Regarde un peu ce qu'elle a fait comme films dernièrement et tu verras qu'elle est loin d'être raçiste pauvre tâche!
EddyBritt 2 years ago
jes mas pel ali G
:D
jsvjuggernaut 2 years ago
Marjane Satrapi is an ideal Persian who expresses the truths about Iran.
Havayosunu 3 years ago
The movie and her book are both very accurate.
arfx3 3 years ago
I love this woman. So smart, so creative and so gorgeous! Beautiful!
MissNobody 3 years ago 6
avez-vous vu le visage de Catherine Deneuve?
elle était tellement fâché, hein? xD
c1k1009 3 years ago
quel connard, ce «journaliste»
heureusement que son plan d'embarrasser Mme Satrapi a echoué
c1k1009 3 years ago
c'est un cinéaste trou du cul de bougnoule
claybe 2 years ago
I can only ask one question to the few comments I have seen and that is, How is this an anti Iranian movie. She is proud of her heritage, and does not once speak ill of the Iranian people. If anything it gives people more of a sense that the people in Iran are just as human as those anywhere else in the world.
Skiplet 3 years ago 5
its anti-iranian in that it speaks the truth of how people in Iran and Iranians in diaspora feel about the islamic regime....shes actually on Irans death list...but yea from the aspect of Iranian people...she makes us look good...or let me rephrase that....correctly represented.
arfx3 3 years ago 2
viva marjane satrapi es la mejor ^^
yukishinta 3 years ago 4
Marjane Satrapi looks latin.
windinhishair10 3 years ago 3
Ouch i thought she was hot....
aatiki 3 years ago
i totally agree with you fafar101
FOXYSH 3 years ago 7
Because who ever is this jerk with his question, is trying to embarasse her in the media and imply; why you forgot so soon where you came from and don't want to talk to iranian reporters. I love how Marjane handled it and said because they just want to talk about politics and not my movie and that is not my cup of tea, who ever wants to talk about movie come forward. You go girl, we are all so proud of her. I thought her story did all of us a big favor as far as giving Iranians a different image
fafar101 3 years ago 29
I'll say, before I read the book(years ago) and watched the movie(recently)my outlook on Iran was completely ignorant, it was such an eye opener for me! This woman is as strong as she is beautiful.
HugeGuts 3 years ago 4
@fafar101
She has a point there, I'm Iranian and I do agree with what she thinks of.
Not just that, they will criticise her as well for some bits of her movie, which in fact she was right about them.
I love her work <3
My French friend was the one who showed me that movie and translated it as well.
And FarFar101 you are right about what you said.
021music 1 year ago
Deneuve hardly says a word in this video but my God, she's beautiful! I wonder what she was motioning towards...
obscurenote 3 years ago 4
If you like grannies... I prefer Satrapi. She has magical eyes... Drool ;)
obliviouspet 3 years ago
Deneuve is certainly the screen grabber for me ... had to watch this clip a few times before I could pay full attention to Marjane who is also very cute looking. I love the way Deneuve acts very protective towards Marjane - see her expression change when the journalist asks the Q and she inhales and has this look of slight exasperation.
vinoverde74 3 years ago 5
I wonder what was that about.
Did you see Catherine Deneuve with Bjork at Cannes? (you can search for under 'bjork cannes'). She was very protective.
obscurenote 3 years ago 2
Yes I did see that clip of Deneuve and Bjork. She had her arm linked with Bjork's the whole time and sort of shepherding her through the crowd. Bjork looked like she was gonna throw up. :-) Did you see the clip of the after-awards party for that movie 'Dancer in the dark' at Cannes? There's a much more cuter and at-ease Bjork hugging Deneuve. Search for 'Bjork at a party'
vinoverde74 3 years ago
Yes, that Canne after-party vid is one of my favorites! They're so adorable ... you can tell that Bjork admires Deneuve so much, and why shouldn't she?
obscurenote 3 years ago
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Basically she is saying that she cannot defend her film and doesn't want to talk to anyone who questions her crap!
ZYahood 3 years ago
I thinks she doesn't want her words being misconstrued for political purposes. And as for being crap, it did win the top prize at Cannes :)
obscurenote 3 years ago 4
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obscurenote; 100s of Iranian films have won Cannes top prizes so far but none have been publicised like this. Basically the whole western media and apparatus are working hard on anything that is anti Iran even a film that is based on the memories of a 10 year old girl! How authentic and accurate can that be? So I repeat, it is crap.
ZYahood 3 years ago
Perhaps there is a political agenda to it - though Marjena herself says again and again there is none - but the artistry is amazing, and the personal touch to it. And therefore I say this is not crap. Not to say that Iraniann cinema hasn't produced better works, and perhaps you are right about other Iranian works not being oublicised to such a great extent as this, but admit it, Persepolis is not without its merits.
obscurenote 3 years ago 4
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You are entitled to your views but I watched it twice to make sure I did not miss anything the first time and still think it is a crap.
ZYahood 3 years ago
yeah we have to agree to disagree. but the fact that persepolis is getting much debate is a sign that its not just another piece of work.
obscurenote 3 years ago 4
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I don't know where you get your information from but actually according to the distributer (Sony Classics) it's gross box office and DVD sale so far has been only $22 million world wide (only $4.4 million in the USA) and ranked 248th in 2007-8 and it can only go down as new films are released in 2008.
ZYahood 3 years ago
hmm interesting. not judging from sales, persepolis does seem to be a hot buzz. anyway, i know we disagree... my previous comment was just me being not wanting to lose. hahahah. i respect ur difference in opinion.
obscurenote 3 years ago 3
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Iranian journalists know the full story of the revolution, the older ones were part of it themselves directly and she is afraid that they may ask her questions that discredit her totally. You can see the horror on the face of the woman on the left when the Iranian guy asks the question.
ZYahood 3 years ago
Hi! Thanks for the translation. Marjame did raise an interesting point - about not wanting her work to be seen as polemic ... I think the journalist's question was veering towards being a bit more emotional, but Marjane handled it very well with such grace..
obscurenote 3 years ago 3
*Marjane*
obscurenote 3 years ago 3
What is she saying? Can someone translate it for us?
obscurenote 3 years ago
I've just seen Persepolis and I loved it. Dear Marjane thank you for this unforgettable film.
pitacha 3 years ago 3
Is it possible to find it online yet?
iloveanime7 3 years ago
I don't think so
pitacha 3 years ago
Khanume Satrapi, man be onwane ek Zane Irani moghime Allman be shoma Eftekhar mikonam.
Merci as Perspolis.!!
DarachteAsadi 3 years ago 3
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whatever she said about Iran 50percent is not true , and she didnt show Iran as good as it is . and she is someone who made this movie for money . shame to you
ehsanzarei 3 years ago
I love Persepolis, the movie and I need to read the two graphic novels. I'm her fan
ICLP87 3 years ago 2
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Fucking frenchss i hate france they are morons.
kaptugan 3 years ago
She looks different on her book cover. Nothing like this. Plus she was thinner. But other than that. The hair the face, everything looks different. She's barely recognizable here.
MrRadaikon 3 years ago
c'est quoi le problème de mme deneuve vers 0:31?
acbdfeg 3 years ago
I love her she is so HERSELF!
erakhshe 3 years ago 5
I find her so attractive even though I don't understand a word she is saying. Through her movie I know she is a very smart earnest woman, I really like her.
WartsHogNYC 3 years ago 4