@Snooky69 If u didnt know, these submission holds that are used in MMA/bjj have their basis in koryu jujutsu, which were originally intended to kill or maim on the battlefield. MMA is not bjj practice, it is a fight and I respect Aoki for finishing it. Whether he tapped or not, he displayed an amazing technique seldom seen outside of demonstrations
Its not tech. illegal to throw uke face first but no points for a throw, so I've been told by a judo ref. but let's just say its unsporstman-like lol. If you do get the waki-gatame in a judo match, u can legally drive uke face down if you continue to apply the lock on the way..no points for a throw... but, as u can see in this fight, Aoki hooks the left leg & pulls him forward, rolling him to his back, which gave me the inspiration to do the same as a var. of O Guruma
Unpleasant Waki Gatame. Why was Wisniewski allowing his arm to straighten for so long under the shoulder of Aoki? In that position he was already fighting a losing battle or a soft submission.
@PWDooood btw hes trying to do an armlock, he just over cranked on purpose. its still frowned upon in mma, like dislocating an elbow in an armbar. you're still a total cunt.
@PWDooood I am a cage fighter, I do train mma. moves that snap bone pretty easily are banned from the sport obviously, I know quiet a few of them. the fight is until knockout or fatigue of the weakest opponent, not till the death. he didn't win, the fight was stopped because of that 'accident'.
Aoki won the fight by submission (Wisniewski verbally submitted).
And really? You claim to "train" in MMA, yet you fail to realize that submission is a very legitimate means to winning a fight? Having your little brother hold a bag while you hit it, isn't the equivalent of training in MMA. Sorry.
Jujutsu --> Judo + modified jujutsu --> Modified Judo + Even more mod Jujutsu --> Aikido + Jujutsu dude went to Brazil --> Super modified JJ + Super modified Judo + BJJ + AKD --> Everything + Sambo
And WHERE exactly did I say, thought or implied this was a submission move?
Seriously you fucking idiot. Learn to read.
You are a dumb shit, and you were wasting my time. If you weren't a moron, you wouldn't be arguing with me right now over a misunderstanding that YOU made because you were too stupid to know how to read a simple comment properly.
Like I said, I called it "Japanese" JJ to differentiate it from the BJJ variant. BJJ is more common and popular nowadays. Everytime I just call it as "JJ" ( Japanese) there is always some confusion when people start to think I meant BJJ.
"even in juijitsu it's still a judo throw"
eh what?? that doesn't even make sense. Judo came from JJ, so it makes more sense to refer to it from the original source. Either way I wasn't completely wrong when I said it was a JJ move.
Yes there is. The original Jujutsu that spawned Judo and BJJ came from Japan. How else would you differentiate between (Japanese) Jujutsu and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
"it's a move taught in judo"
It's taught in Jujutsu as well moron. It's Waki Gatame. So shut up.
It's annoying when dumbshits like yourself try to correct something that wasn't necessarily wrong in the first place. All you do is waste other people's time.
haha, shinya didn't even seem to have any concern or remorse for what he just did.
He just jumped up and down and cheered afterwards.
Maybe I'm just a softie, but if it were me, I would feel abit sorry for the guy and think:
"Oh shit.. I did that?" but I guess that's just me. I don't do Japanese Jujutsu but I have seen a move like that from the style. It's actually a "basic" move taught as earliest as in white or yellow belt. Good to know the basics are often the best.
Damn you even heard the crack, guys got balls for fighting Aoki though...id be constantly worried just what appendage is he going to break this time lol
@moserroth85 This was not a judo or BJJ comp, this was a mixed martial arts match. Strikers are permitted, and in fact routinely expected, to break ribs or facial bones and give their opponents concussions. Just because grapplers' highest percentage techniques are armbars and chokes that give plenty of time to submit and usually cause 'only' tendon damage and relatively harmless unconciousness doesn't mean that it's 'dirty' or wrong for them to go beyond that in the context of an MMA match.
@ooogooman Well I think it is. There's a reason why there have been more rules added to mma since it was born. At first they didn't even use gloves. Headbutts were allowed and soccer kicks as well. Later they added more rules. This was to take away the 'brutal' reputation of the sport. Breaking someones arm on purpose is to brutal imo. I call this move bad sportsmanship. When a facial bone is broken by an ellbow, that's not done on purpose, it happens. This was on purpose.
@moserroth85 I think you're holding strikers and grapplers to a different standard of sportsmanship. Broken bones as the result of a hard strike is more than just an accident that happens- it's an expected and natural result of that strike.
i see where you're comming from if you're saying this move doesn't give one the time to tap like a few other posters have mentioned-the organation should've made it clear from the outset and given Aoki the DQ. But that didn't happen and Aoki did what he did-I just get the feeling that there are a lot of people hating on Aoki because dude is an Asian man with skills rather than this move
@mrnoobtubue360 That begin said, all the MMA worshipers out there can't say "MMA>jesus" when mma doesn't even allow for moves like this. How can MMA be the highest level of martial arts when a rather simple move like this isn't even allowed? Aoki demonstates the difference between competition sport and martial arts.
@mrnoobtubue360 That technique was a standing wakigatame, a very technical joint lock that's taught in jujutsu and judo dojos worldwide. It was quite technical and very deliberate.
@joe6041887 The only way to apply a standing wakigatame like that against a competent grappler is to do it so a fast that it doesn't allow a chance to tap before something breaks. Still legitimate in MMA in my opinion, but far and away more dangerous than any choke barring one that cranks the neck.
@shortyaaron11 People are being stubborn and not tapping. Aoki has great subs and people are being disrespectful of his jujitsu and not tapping so he continues until the match is over, which happens to be when bones break.
thats a fucked up move aoki is a fucking piece of japanese shit..he doesnt deserve to be fighting..he could fuck up someones career by doing that and most people just train and make there money from fighting and if he fucks up there career no more money for their family
@MrChrisbonnar Yeah but the broken arm guy is just a can. He doesnt have a decent record, & he's not an exciting fighter so (from the perspective of promoters) use him for Aoki highlight reel footage lol. That was his mistake for clinching with a judo/bjj master. Idk why people get so offended by soccer-kicks/stomps, broken bones, etc. If that offends u, you dont understand what martial arts were intended to be used for. If u accept the rules of combat, you are responsible for your own injuries
@MrChrisbonnar How is he a piece of Japanese shit? Aoki is just doing what he does best...fucking shit up, son. Dudes a bone-breaking extraordinaire. Thats what he's suppose to do. THe other dude deserved it, he obviously wasnt good enough to fight with Aoki. In the ring its all WAR and the other guy knew that when he walked in.
Man you could hear that snap. Aoki is really talented but this wasn't right and was a greasy thing to do. Although you have to do what it takes to win. Oh well
@ncampbell01 I'm more inclined to believe that he used it for a takedown considering the way he immediately assumed side after executing it. If he did mean to break the guy's arm, he's a piece of shit.
@bnosam Yeah im sure he intended to use it as a takedown, I've had success with this move in judo matches as a throw, but to actually break the arm is extremely difficult but the technique is designed to do just that. Hey this is MMA, breaking someones arm is no different than a knockout punch. This was an amazing demonstration of technique
@bnosam No fighter has died from a submission, many have died from punches. Nonetheless i get your point, though punches may cause more long term damage to the brain, like parkinsons disease, and lesions. In the short term though an injury like this can take a year or more to be fight ready again, and may never be right.
@ncampbell01 That move is pretty flagrantly illegal in judo as a throw if we're thinking about the same thing. It ties up one arm and sends uke facefirst into the mat with no free limbs to break fall with.
what are you talking about? there was no way to tap before he could have realized what happened. His arm snapped in a second when aoki pivoted. that wasnt even a submission. snapping someone's neck in a thai clinch would have just as much telegraphing
read threw a couple comments, and came to the quick conclusion that half of you dont know what the hell you're talking about. Yes, he broke the guy's arm and flipped him off.. if he would have tapped, the injury would have been prevented. End of story.
Agreed.Its the opponent and the refs job to decide whether the fighter is in trouble / pain and to wave the fight off . Aoki goes until told otherwise, you cannot blame him for doing his job just because the people that step in there with him grow a big head and talk smack pre-fight and costs them a hefty medical suspension, if you are going to be vocal, you must back it up or its on you. It seems like the majority of posts here are children who feel the need to shout and be heard; ufc fan boys.
@appleslayer101 Because he injured an opponent who refused to tap? As a fighter one should be prepared for any amount of injury. Anyone who fights Aoki or Imanari knows that they will potentially never be able to fight again. That's not being a douchebag that's being a skilled fighter.
metalaxe888, exactly, you missed the point. His skill IS in manipulating joints, and in many ways that is harder and a more intelligent way of fighting than striking.
You can grab someone's fingers, but not in a MMA competition. In addition, you can in real life only grab someone's fingers if he has an open hand, something mostly untrained brawlers do. I'm sure Aoki wouldn't do it.
@HushemFlupskluk Yes neck cranks are allowed in MMA and some submission grappling tournaments. However it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to "break" someones neck using those moves.
There is a lot of muscle and cartridge that you have to tear though before you would ever be able to damage the actual vertebra, and even then an individual would have to be extremely strong to break someones neck. The doctor would stop the fight due to neck injures long before a break would occur
@insdel2004 If Fedor had a neck and not an alluminum alloy combat chassis, Randalman would have surely paralized him with that steroid infused up in the air body slam he pulled on him.
@CrashBandikoot7 Yea, maybe. If Fedor would have gotten slammed on concrete instead of a padded ring, he would have been in a world of hurt. But what Randalman did was a slam, not a neck crank.
@insdel2004 Yeah I know, just sayin it looked like it could have broken someones neck the way he landed. And he still pulls out a freakin submission. Amazing..
You mean dangerous to allow neck cranks? I don't think so, I mean I've never seen someones neck broken in an mma tournament, grappling match, or practice session using a neck crank; and I train sub-grappling almost every day. Receiving a large amount of neck cranks can put some wear and tear on your neck. But that will happen over time, and not all at once. Even in that situation I don't believe that your neck will break, it will just wear down the joint over time.
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eh... I don't see the skill behind anything Aoki does. sure he has mastered the art of manipulating joints but if you really THINK about it. all it would take would be to break Aoki's fingers.
seriously, if you think about it, no matter how he grabs you. get a hold of his fingers and snap them. game over
If breaking fingers were legal he could break yours as easily as you could break his. Additionally, I have seen men break their fingers during sparring sessions and not even think to stop. Finger breaks are only good for dropping people before the fight starts. In a fight you are just going to piss them off.
"eh... I don't see the skill behind anything Usain Bolt does. sure he has mastered the art of running fast but if you really THINK about it. all it would take would be to run faster than him.
seriously, if you think about it, no matter if he passes you. Just run faster and pass him. game over"
Easy as pie, right metalaxe888? obviously no one has ever THOUGHT about it...(I mean, really really hard, like you did)
@reezykeezy fuck aoki.. he breaks peoples arms and then laughs about it, like its all fun and games. things usually dont end well for such individuals.
For everyone concerned about Wisniewski at the end of ths fight, he's OK. Wikipedia says he went back to MMA competition, winning his most recent fight with a rear naked choke in 2009. Wikipedia doesn't say what he had to do to rehab his arm.
Shinya's my favourite lightweight fighter because he makes sumbisiion grappling just as exciting if not more exciting than striking. He's technical, he thinks on his feet, and most important he's creative. He's fun too watch, because he's agressive and takes risks.
Any of you nubs who thinks that aoki sucks, is a compelete retard. This Shinya Aoki is ubelievable. His technique is great and he is always thinking. He knows how to use his enemy's body position to control the fight. and Gan2gan2, your a nub
Another amateur who shouldn't even be in the ring in the first place... 1:16 Aoki fell on his head and the other guy looked at him like there was no opening....
bro chill if you knew what he was goin for it would be more understandable. he went for that flying arm bar and the other guy slipped his arm out so he just fell
Yet another amateur retard who can't think and see what is actually happening. Stop posting retarded comments like this pntrain5. Clearly you're an ignorant retard. 'Nuff said.
@TyphlosionTJ Ya super fast on it. He' so freaking agile an flexible, makes transitions an subs look easy hehe. And think your right, doesnt look like he noticed till after. Dont care what anyone says or thinks, Dude is a sick sick fighter, in the good sense though. Talent is thru the roof an he's still young an growing. If he can get some strength/conditioning done right, be unstoppable for sure imho. Least at 155...
It's MMA you pussies, guys suffer brain damage from strikes and a broken elbow is a bad thing? That will heal, brain damage won't. A guy should feel lucky that if he lost at least he didn't get hit on the head.
submissions like that should b looked at. the guy had no chance to tap. but i guess if he had a chance to tap he would also had a chance to escape. u fight coz u love it and to hav someone possibly end your career and u cant do nething about it. but i guess they kno the risks so u cant blame neone
Very nicely done. Only thing that isn't cool about this stuff is that when it happens the guy who accidentally broke the arm celebrates that he just injured the other guy probably permanently. Instead he should be checking up on the guy and helping him. This kind of attitude is why some people hate MMA and think all fighters are vicious meatheads. Not saying Shinya Aoki is, but it would've been nice to show some sympathy. I'd feel like shit if I broke his arm.
Speaking frankly, i don't believe any fighter giving "help" to loser form their heart..just acting. Fighters just want to KO the other. No mercy. Aoki should not celebrate (no matter from his heart or acting). But i think fighter should not "act" to give a warm hug or help to opponent. Certainly, some fighters do from their heart. But it is meaningless, you are the one who hurt them! They may feel more painful if you show mercy... Just let the doctors check and and stop celebrating is enough
When did this turn into a discussion about acting? I'm saying the proper way to handle the situation is to help the guy and check on him to see if he is maimed or not. It's not about acting or not acting, it's about being honorable. Shinya shamed his trainers and the sport by running up the ring post and screaming in joy after he broke the guys arm. That's just not a good attitude to have. Which is why I say change it from Mixed MARTIAL arts to Mixed FIGHTING arts. Nothing martial about this.
Aoki is a well known douchebag. In his last fight he intentionally broke the guys arm and then flipped him a finger when he was lying on the floor injured.
Listen really closely at 2:03 you can hear the bone break.
xDynaBlade 1 week ago
that is disgusting
TheTwill12 1 week ago
JuJutsu, Then Judo, Then BJJ. That's the order that the arts came in.
SeanOMatic 3 weeks ago
this is the nastiest attack in the history of MMA ! He just breaks his arm, dayumn!
CommentAccountA 4 weeks ago
Fuck me, did his arm break? looked a hell of a lot like it did... OUCH 0.o
DeadlyV1RU5 3 months ago
@Snooky69 If u didnt know, these submission holds that are used in MMA/bjj have their basis in koryu jujutsu, which were originally intended to kill or maim on the battlefield. MMA is not bjj practice, it is a fight and I respect Aoki for finishing it. Whether he tapped or not, he displayed an amazing technique seldom seen outside of demonstrations
ncampbell01 3 months ago
looked like rajon rondo
homervdoh 3 months ago
Its not tech. illegal to throw uke face first but no points for a throw, so I've been told by a judo ref. but let's just say its unsporstman-like lol. If you do get the waki-gatame in a judo match, u can legally drive uke face down if you continue to apply the lock on the way..no points for a throw... but, as u can see in this fight, Aoki hooks the left leg & pulls him forward, rolling him to his back, which gave me the inspiration to do the same as a var. of O Guruma
ncampbell01 4 months ago
at the end, hear what the guys mis pronounciation...Shinya Aoki he said
Shinya AOKI-A??? Write is 1 thing..Read is another thing
CharlieDoan 4 months ago
The way Japanese write and when they READ are Different?? AOKI SHINYA..try to pronounciation this name to see what I told u right or wrong???
CharlieDoan 4 months ago
Unpleasant Waki Gatame. Why was Wisniewski allowing his arm to straighten for so long under the shoulder of Aoki? In that position he was already fighting a losing battle or a soft submission.
utubesqueeze 5 months ago
I laughed so hard at the end when Aoki doesn't know what to do and just points at him.
MrAnimated 5 months ago
え えげつないな…
EMIIIIIIIINEMU 6 months ago
@PWDooood btw hes trying to do an armlock, he just over cranked on purpose. its still frowned upon in mma, like dislocating an elbow in an armbar. you're still a total cunt.
Snuuky69 6 months ago
@PWDooood I am a cage fighter, I do train mma. moves that snap bone pretty easily are banned from the sport obviously, I know quiet a few of them. the fight is until knockout or fatigue of the weakest opponent, not till the death. he didn't win, the fight was stopped because of that 'accident'.
Snuuky69 6 months ago
@Snuuky69
Aoki won the fight by submission (Wisniewski verbally submitted).
And really? You claim to "train" in MMA, yet you fail to realize that submission is a very legitimate means to winning a fight? Having your little brother hold a bag while you hit it, isn't the equivalent of training in MMA. Sorry.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
Its a fight. Defending yourself at all times isn't limited to avoiding strikes. Save the boo-hoo's for basketball or some shit.
PWDooood 6 months ago
Summary of what happened --> represents over time
Jujutsu --> Judo + modified jujutsu --> Modified Judo + Even more mod Jujutsu --> Aikido + Jujutsu dude went to Brazil --> Super modified JJ + Super modified Judo + BJJ + AKD --> Everything + Sambo
TheDrugMusic 6 months ago
that cunt knew exactly what he was doing, he didn't win, if anything he lost
Snuuky69 6 months ago
@Snuuky69 I'm sure that "cunts" opponent knew he was competing a full contact fight too. This is MMA, not the gentle art. Boo Hoo.
PWDooood 6 months ago
Is it just me or did i heard his arm snapped..
ArmorKingRulez 6 months ago
@ArmorKingRulez oh.....it snapped
imagination373 6 months ago
well... it's nice to see a nip win in mma for once... i guess.
uttoushii 6 months ago
he has those weird tricks you dont expect and breaks an arm or a leg lol, i wached him he seem to be the only one. sick though
mrmartial 7 months ago
@twasadream2
And WHERE exactly did I say, thought or implied this was a submission move?
Seriously you fucking idiot. Learn to read.
You are a dumb shit, and you were wasting my time. If you weren't a moron, you wouldn't be arguing with me right now over a misunderstanding that YOU made because you were too stupid to know how to read a simple comment properly.
largefirmmember 7 months ago
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largefirmmember 7 months ago
@largefirmmember It's an aikido technique that can be used to submit someone.
rangedat 6 months ago
@rangedat
It's used in both Aikido and Jujutsu.
largefirmmember 6 months ago
@twasadream2
Like I said, I called it "Japanese" JJ to differentiate it from the BJJ variant. BJJ is more common and popular nowadays. Everytime I just call it as "JJ" ( Japanese) there is always some confusion when people start to think I meant BJJ.
"even in juijitsu it's still a judo throw"
eh what?? that doesn't even make sense. Judo came from JJ, so it makes more sense to refer to it from the original source. Either way I wasn't completely wrong when I said it was a JJ move.
largefirmmember 7 months ago 9
@twasadream2
1st: no such thing as Japanese Jujutsu"
Yes there is. The original Jujutsu that spawned Judo and BJJ came from Japan. How else would you differentiate between (Japanese) Jujutsu and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
"it's a move taught in judo"
It's taught in Jujutsu as well moron. It's Waki Gatame. So shut up.
It's annoying when dumbshits like yourself try to correct something that wasn't necessarily wrong in the first place. All you do is waste other people's time.
largefirmmember 7 months ago 7
@largefirmmember Apparently "Jujitsu" is a Brazilian Portuguese word. Who knew?
hkdharmon 1 week ago
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Laynerzk 7 months ago
What is ah- toh ah-toh ah-toh mean?
CharlieDoan 7 months ago
Okay, I'm gonna steal that move now because I have never seen it before and neither has anyone else I know.
kevluv93 8 months ago
@kevluv93 He has done that move before and had same result: broken arm. The opponent didn't study him enough. Know your opponent!,
fightertrainer 7 months ago
haha, shinya didn't even seem to have any concern or remorse for what he just did.
He just jumped up and down and cheered afterwards.
Maybe I'm just a softie, but if it were me, I would feel abit sorry for the guy and think:
"Oh shit.. I did that?" but I guess that's just me. I don't do Japanese Jujutsu but I have seen a move like that from the style. It's actually a "basic" move taught as earliest as in white or yellow belt. Good to know the basics are often the best.
largefirmmember 8 months ago
He is uglier than Antonio Silva, but he is freakin good.
MrWakarimashita 8 months ago
that move was brutal
dadamager3000 8 months ago
Aikido FTW!!!
TheScouseExile 8 months ago
I heard it snap Dear GOD
lindarmusic 9 months ago
fffffffuuuuuuuccccckkkkk me too now that i listened for it...damn
enaler1001 9 months ago
Damn you even heard the crack, guys got balls for fighting Aoki though...id be constantly worried just what appendage is he going to break this time lol
markuuuus84 10 months ago
eddie alvarez is the best lightweight in professional mma
xPAHardcorex 10 months ago
@xPAHardcorex
Shinya tapped him. Your hypocrisy is delicious.
Ghettiquette 10 months ago
@Ghettiquette I guess thats why eddie is further up everyones rankings. zing.
xPAHardcorex 10 months ago
@xPAHardcorex
Oh, so according to your logic, brock lesnar is the #2 best heavyweight in the world. Sit down fucker. Sit down.
2431346 10 months ago
@2431346 you would bring brock lesnar into this. haha, get out of your moms basement loser
xPAHardcorex 10 months ago
brutal! big fan of aoki shinya.
InsanityPlea83 11 months ago
thats one way to make spaghetti..........
murderousintent 11 months ago
OOHHHH SHIT!!! Anybody else literally ran to their gym and Drilled this technique until their hands were bleeding after seeing this video?
dss103 11 months ago
can't imagine more miserable submition
addk3 11 months ago
I heard his elbow pop i think
AL93000 1 year ago
did he break his arm?
iwanttofight69 1 year ago
oh my GOD that was nasty. Didn't expect that.
Tanikaze2 1 year ago
This is why I don't like Aoki, he broke his arm. The guy didn't even have a chance to tap.
moserroth85 1 year ago
@moserroth85 This was not a judo or BJJ comp, this was a mixed martial arts match. Strikers are permitted, and in fact routinely expected, to break ribs or facial bones and give their opponents concussions. Just because grapplers' highest percentage techniques are armbars and chokes that give plenty of time to submit and usually cause 'only' tendon damage and relatively harmless unconciousness doesn't mean that it's 'dirty' or wrong for them to go beyond that in the context of an MMA match.
ooogooman 1 year ago
@ooogooman Well I think it is. There's a reason why there have been more rules added to mma since it was born. At first they didn't even use gloves. Headbutts were allowed and soccer kicks as well. Later they added more rules. This was to take away the 'brutal' reputation of the sport. Breaking someones arm on purpose is to brutal imo. I call this move bad sportsmanship. When a facial bone is broken by an ellbow, that's not done on purpose, it happens. This was on purpose.
moserroth85 1 year ago
@moserroth85 I think you're holding strikers and grapplers to a different standard of sportsmanship. Broken bones as the result of a hard strike is more than just an accident that happens- it's an expected and natural result of that strike.
ooogooman 1 year ago
Damn you can hear the snap
shaunyb0i 1 year ago
its fuckin crazy how shinya gets into a grapple that fast.
appleglory 1 year ago
bit of a dick move
fedorgspsilvamma 1 year ago
@fedorgspsilvamma How so? That move was legit and it won him the fight. Thats like saying the triangle or a choke is a dick move.
joe6041887 1 year ago
@joe6041887 exept for the fact that it wasnt a move he just broke the guys arm fights like this should be called as draws
mrnoobtubue360 1 year ago
i see where you're comming from if you're saying this move doesn't give one the time to tap like a few other posters have mentioned-the organation should've made it clear from the outset and given Aoki the DQ. But that didn't happen and Aoki did what he did-I just get the feeling that there are a lot of people hating on Aoki because dude is an Asian man with skills rather than this move
joe6041887 1 year ago
@mrnoobtubue360 That begin said, all the MMA worshipers out there can't say "MMA>jesus" when mma doesn't even allow for moves like this. How can MMA be the highest level of martial arts when a rather simple move like this isn't even allowed? Aoki demonstates the difference between competition sport and martial arts.
joe6041887 1 year ago
@mrnoobtubue360 That technique was a standing wakigatame, a very technical joint lock that's taught in jujutsu and judo dojos worldwide. It was quite technical and very deliberate.
ooogooman 1 year ago
@joe6041887 The only way to apply a standing wakigatame like that against a competent grappler is to do it so a fast that it doesn't allow a chance to tap before something breaks. Still legitimate in MMA in my opinion, but far and away more dangerous than any choke barring one that cranks the neck.
ooogooman 1 year ago
And the winner, via elbow destruction...
fuckfrank 1 year ago
what the fuck is up with this guy breaking arms
shortyaaron11 1 year ago
@shortyaaron11 People are being stubborn and not tapping. Aoki has great subs and people are being disrespectful of his jujitsu and not tapping so he continues until the match is over, which happens to be when bones break.
twistedtrinyti 1 year ago
damn the waki gatame
SGSacaindo916 1 year ago
im guin av nightmares especially d cracking noise! mank
weedpussymoney321 1 year ago
Aikido
ThePainFactoryCom 1 year ago
Holy fuck, he broke his fucking arm!
Rakknar 1 year ago
Aoki FTW!!
Mr21478 1 year ago
thats a fucked up move aoki is a fucking piece of japanese shit..he doesnt deserve to be fighting..he could fuck up someones career by doing that and most people just train and make there money from fighting and if he fucks up there career no more money for their family
MrChrisbonnar 1 year ago
@MrChrisbonnar Yeah but the broken arm guy is just a can. He doesnt have a decent record, & he's not an exciting fighter so (from the perspective of promoters) use him for Aoki highlight reel footage lol. That was his mistake for clinching with a judo/bjj master. Idk why people get so offended by soccer-kicks/stomps, broken bones, etc. If that offends u, you dont understand what martial arts were intended to be used for. If u accept the rules of combat, you are responsible for your own injuries
ncampbell01 1 year ago 2
@MrChrisbonnar The can signed up for the fight. He's responsible for his own injuries.
DSREK7 1 year ago
@MrChrisbonnar How is he a piece of Japanese shit? Aoki is just doing what he does best...fucking shit up, son. Dudes a bone-breaking extraordinaire. Thats what he's suppose to do. THe other dude deserved it, he obviously wasnt good enough to fight with Aoki. In the ring its all WAR and the other guy knew that when he walked in.
burningknuckle26 1 year ago 11
@MrChrisbonnar He won. Idiot, what do you want him to do? Lose? It's perfectly legal racist dumb ass.
TornPREDICTIONS 1 year ago
2:03 gross
t00br00tal 1 year ago
@t00br00tal It actually looks like it went back into socket, but I dunno lol.
pchancey007 1 year ago
Man you could hear that snap. Aoki is really talented but this wasn't right and was a greasy thing to do. Although you have to do what it takes to win. Oh well
overthehill91 1 year ago
Did he break his arm? It sounds like something broke, or popped, but on wiki it doesnt say he broke it, just won by sub.
ScreamingRestless 1 year ago
@ScreamingRestless I think it popped back into place on the way down, but I've seen that technique on his DVD.
pchancey007 1 year ago
Damn wtf did he do. Looked like he tried to rip his arm off
bostontodaship 1 year ago
@bostontodaship Google 'Wakigatame'.
ooogooman 1 year ago
Aoki is a bad ass!
MobiusCoin 1 year ago
Shinya "The Armbreaker" Aoki!
shaun0069 1 year ago
Did he mean to break the arm or was it a botched takedown attempt?
attestedplum 1 year ago
@attestedplum It was probably an attempt to takedown that ended with a broken arm
bnosam 1 year ago
@bnosam No, Aoki used a standing armlock known as a Waki-Gatame. Check out Aoki's instructional videos for verification.
Youtube Search Keyword - Aoki Arm Lock
ncampbell01 1 year ago
@ncampbell01 I'm more inclined to believe that he used it for a takedown considering the way he immediately assumed side after executing it. If he did mean to break the guy's arm, he's a piece of shit.
bnosam 1 year ago
@bnosam Yeah im sure he intended to use it as a takedown, I've had success with this move in judo matches as a throw, but to actually break the arm is extremely difficult but the technique is designed to do just that. Hey this is MMA, breaking someones arm is no different than a knockout punch. This was an amazing demonstration of technique
ncampbell01 1 year ago
@ncampbell01 Well the difference between a punch is that most punches generally don't put fighters away for months rehabilitating the injury.
bnosam 1 year ago
@bnosam I'd like to point out that I'm also not some moron who is a keyboard warrior. I do brazilian jiujitsu and I've done judo.
bnosam 1 year ago
@bnosam That standing armlock was bad, I've seen it on his DVD, I think the arm popped back into socket. Hurt a lot none the less.
pchancey007 1 year ago
@bnosam No fighter has died from a submission, many have died from punches. Nonetheless i get your point, though punches may cause more long term damage to the brain, like parkinsons disease, and lesions. In the short term though an injury like this can take a year or more to be fight ready again, and may never be right.
NoChokeToke 1 year ago
@ncampbell01 Nah, he did what does, it's on his MMA/Grappling DVD. Standing armlock, ouch!
pchancey007 1 year ago
@ncampbell01 That move is pretty flagrantly illegal in judo as a throw if we're thinking about the same thing. It ties up one arm and sends uke facefirst into the mat with no free limbs to break fall with.
ooogooman 1 year ago
dude the crowd is so quiet if it happened in the us muthas be like daaaamn!!!but japanese people i guess dont need to point out the obvious.
ZataboKing 1 year ago
what are you talking about? there was no way to tap before he could have realized what happened. His arm snapped in a second when aoki pivoted. that wasnt even a submission. snapping someone's neck in a thai clinch would have just as much telegraphing
mikegbassist 1 year ago
AIKIDO !!!
maiconmacri 1 year ago
read threw a couple comments, and came to the quick conclusion that half of you dont know what the hell you're talking about. Yes, he broke the guy's arm and flipped him off.. if he would have tapped, the injury would have been prevented. End of story.
tdnef 1 year ago
Agreed.Its the opponent and the refs job to decide whether the fighter is in trouble / pain and to wave the fight off . Aoki goes until told otherwise, you cannot blame him for doing his job just because the people that step in there with him grow a big head and talk smack pre-fight and costs them a hefty medical suspension, if you are going to be vocal, you must back it up or its on you. It seems like the majority of posts here are children who feel the need to shout and be heard; ufc fan boys.
InsaneKahuna 1 year ago
aoki owns because people cry about him
Daffanka 1 year ago 3
Shinya Aoki is a submission god, but he's also a complete fucking douchebag
appleslayer101 1 year ago
@appleslayer101 Because he injured an opponent who refused to tap? As a fighter one should be prepared for any amount of injury. Anyone who fights Aoki or Imanari knows that they will potentially never be able to fight again. That's not being a douchebag that's being a skilled fighter.
gotz2bk 1 year ago
@gotz2bk There was no time for him to tap. WTF?
theshninja 1 year ago
damn, you could hear the bone break... yikes
pinatyanay 1 year ago
AHHH!!! man im rubbing my own elbows now!
sickpicklink 1 year ago
OUCH....that elbow was turned almost 180 degrees
kornypony 1 year ago
wow that was insane
miraeja 1 year ago
shinya aoki is my hero
splakow 1 year ago 19
@splakow you must respect doush bags. i wonder what that says about you
CrashBandikoot7 1 year ago
@splakow hes a piece of shit that has no respect for his oppenents, but fuck he is ruthless
peraltaman 1 year ago 2
@splakow
I like him to but he ain't my hero so I got to ask what you though about his new years eve tragedy lol.
lindarmusic 9 months ago
@lindarmusic I would respond with it was an exhibition match and didn't count on his record
enaler1001 9 months ago
@splakow woooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, you like an anerecix dude, skinny CHING CHONG MAN
bannaboy89 9 months ago
metalaxe888, exactly, you missed the point. His skill IS in manipulating joints, and in many ways that is harder and a more intelligent way of fighting than striking.
You can grab someone's fingers, but not in a MMA competition. In addition, you can in real life only grab someone's fingers if he has an open hand, something mostly untrained brawlers do. I'm sure Aoki wouldn't do it.
NWOG 1 year ago
did he break the arm or dislocate the elbow?
TheMrpalid 1 year ago
What about a neck brake move like in the movies? Would that be alowed?
HushemFlupskluk 1 year ago
@HushemFlupskluk Yes neck cranks are allowed in MMA and some submission grappling tournaments. However it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to "break" someones neck using those moves.
There is a lot of muscle and cartridge that you have to tear though before you would ever be able to damage the actual vertebra, and even then an individual would have to be extremely strong to break someones neck. The doctor would stop the fight due to neck injures long before a break would occur
insdel2004 1 year ago
@insdel2004 If Fedor had a neck and not an alluminum alloy combat chassis, Randalman would have surely paralized him with that steroid infused up in the air body slam he pulled on him.
CrashBandikoot7 1 year ago
@CrashBandikoot7 Yea, maybe. If Fedor would have gotten slammed on concrete instead of a padded ring, he would have been in a world of hurt. But what Randalman did was a slam, not a neck crank.
insdel2004 1 year ago
@insdel2004 Yeah I know, just sayin it looked like it could have broken someones neck the way he landed. And he still pulls out a freakin submission. Amazing..
CrashBandikoot7 1 year ago
@insdel2004 Thanks for the explanation. But..
I mean is that not one rule you have get out of mma?
It could come as unexpected as Aoki just did. I believe some guys can be just to fast to stop.
It is extremely dangerous to allow those moves right?
HushemFlupskluk 1 year ago
@HushemFlupskluk
You mean dangerous to allow neck cranks? I don't think so, I mean I've never seen someones neck broken in an mma tournament, grappling match, or practice session using a neck crank; and I train sub-grappling almost every day. Receiving a large amount of neck cranks can put some wear and tear on your neck. But that will happen over time, and not all at once. Even in that situation I don't believe that your neck will break, it will just wear down the joint over time.
insdel2004 1 year ago
Jesusssssssss fucking Aoki. That's brutal.
CHumga 1 year ago
sexyboi shinya
jinac80 2 years ago 3
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eh... I don't see the skill behind anything Aoki does. sure he has mastered the art of manipulating joints but if you really THINK about it. all it would take would be to break Aoki's fingers.
seriously, if you think about it, no matter how he grabs you. get a hold of his fingers and snap them. game over
metalaxe888 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about?
If breaking fingers were legal he could break yours as easily as you could break his. Additionally, I have seen men break their fingers during sparring sessions and not even think to stop. Finger breaks are only good for dropping people before the fight starts. In a fight you are just going to piss them off.
Xaymot 1 year ago 5
@Xaymot
that wasn't about his fingers but i think he fucked his elbow joint. take a closer look.
chiesuto 1 year ago
@Xaymot you moron he didnt break his fingers, he broke his olecranon process...his elbow joint...
athleticobsession 9 months ago
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ROTFL!
hmm, let's try it:
"eh... I don't see the skill behind anything Usain Bolt does. sure he has mastered the art of running fast but if you really THINK about it. all it would take would be to run faster than him.
seriously, if you think about it, no matter if he passes you. Just run faster and pass him. game over"
Easy as pie, right metalaxe888? obviously no one has ever THOUGHT about it...(I mean, really really hard, like you did)
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banarelo 1 year ago
i love aoki but he is to concerned with hurting his opponent..he likes to do it
GanjaGanja89 2 years ago 3
Keith was broken his arm
sanasana223 2 years ago
WAR AOKI! you can hear the SNAP!
reezykeezy 2 years ago
@reezykeezy fuck aoki.. he breaks peoples arms and then laughs about it, like its all fun and games. things usually dont end well for such individuals.
CrashBandikoot7 1 year ago
For everyone concerned about Wisniewski at the end of ths fight, he's OK. Wikipedia says he went back to MMA competition, winning his most recent fight with a rear naked choke in 2009. Wikipedia doesn't say what he had to do to rehab his arm.
303Gregg 2 years ago
Shinya's my favourite lightweight fighter because he makes sumbisiion grappling just as exciting if not more exciting than striking. He's technical, he thinks on his feet, and most important he's creative. He's fun too watch, because he's agressive and takes risks.
spitblueblood 2 years ago 24
Any of you nubs who thinks that aoki sucks, is a compelete retard. This Shinya Aoki is ubelievable. His technique is great and he is always thinking. He knows how to use his enemy's body position to control the fight. and Gan2gan2, your a nub
meteorloki 2 years ago 2
レフリー良い判断
mywar 2 years ago
Shinya thinks on his feet, and he's creative, a true mmartisit.
spitblueblood 2 years ago 2
waka gatame.
Judo 101
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
Another amateur who shouldn't even be in the ring in the first place... 1:16 Aoki fell on his head and the other guy looked at him like there was no opening....
pntrain5 2 years ago
aoki went for a flying arm bar but failed. it would be unwise to attack him while on the ground.
re0508 2 years ago 2
@pntrain5 amateur? go look at his record. im pretty sure its alot better than yours.
moesker 2 years ago 2
bro chill if you knew what he was goin for it would be more understandable. he went for that flying arm bar and the other guy slipped his arm out so he just fell
alriko2047 2 years ago
Yet another amateur retard who can't think and see what is actually happening. Stop posting retarded comments like this pntrain5. Clearly you're an ignorant retard. 'Nuff said.
BarnsM 2 years ago
I hate Aoki, he is sucks.
gan2gan2 2 years ago
Get him in a cage with BJ Penn then we shall see who's the best at 155
outsidermistic 2 years ago 4
aoki
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
bone crasher aoki
URASUJIBANCHOU 2 years ago 4
Damn Aoki should get the nick name "Snapper"
demetriorex 2 years ago 3
@demetriorex Hehe yea no shit eh, 3 or 4 broken arms from him now :P Tap or Snap
chiggz 2 years ago 3
@chiggz couldnt tap on this one, was a quick motion.
funny shinya didnt even noticed till reff stopped.
TyphlosionTJ 2 years ago
@TyphlosionTJ Ya super fast on it. He' so freaking agile an flexible, makes transitions an subs look easy hehe. And think your right, doesnt look like he noticed till after. Dont care what anyone says or thinks, Dude is a sick sick fighter, in the good sense though. Talent is thru the roof an he's still young an growing. If he can get some strength/conditioning done right, be unstoppable for sure imho. Least at 155...
chiggz 2 years ago 2
wow....did anyone else hear a snap?
MrPhenomenal7 2 years ago 4
It's MMA you pussies, guys suffer brain damage from strikes and a broken elbow is a bad thing? That will heal, brain damage won't. A guy should feel lucky that if he lost at least he didn't get hit on the head.
misterfaggum 2 years ago
lol show me the guys that have suffer from brain damage. who are they?
gho0stbuster123 2 years ago
Anyone who suffers multiple concussions runs the risk of getting PCS dipshit.
misterfaggum 2 years ago
damn
loa37007 2 years ago
love these breaks!
fine technique!
j0e14 2 years ago
submissions like that should b looked at. the guy had no chance to tap. but i guess if he had a chance to tap he would also had a chance to escape. u fight coz u love it and to hav someone possibly end your career and u cant do nething about it. but i guess they kno the risks so u cant blame neone
floorkillacris 2 years ago 2
this injury will heal ryt????
dancingmephisto 2 years ago
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this is why mma is kinda cheap. if its too real, then its not very sportman-like.
ideaophile 2 years ago
SNAP!
cesare48 2 years ago
Fuckin gross, but that's part of fighting.
briant420 2 years ago
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American's keep fighting when their bones are broken.
vor792718 2 years ago
Very nicely done. Only thing that isn't cool about this stuff is that when it happens the guy who accidentally broke the arm celebrates that he just injured the other guy probably permanently. Instead he should be checking up on the guy and helping him. This kind of attitude is why some people hate MMA and think all fighters are vicious meatheads. Not saying Shinya Aoki is, but it would've been nice to show some sympathy. I'd feel like shit if I broke his arm.
jbhooyah 2 years ago 4
totaly agree
rankinmania 2 years ago
Speaking frankly, i don't believe any fighter giving "help" to loser form their heart..just acting. Fighters just want to KO the other. No mercy. Aoki should not celebrate (no matter from his heart or acting). But i think fighter should not "act" to give a warm hug or help to opponent. Certainly, some fighters do from their heart. But it is meaningless, you are the one who hurt them! They may feel more painful if you show mercy... Just let the doctors check and and stop celebrating is enough
wowgame123 2 years ago
When did this turn into a discussion about acting? I'm saying the proper way to handle the situation is to help the guy and check on him to see if he is maimed or not. It's not about acting or not acting, it's about being honorable. Shinya shamed his trainers and the sport by running up the ring post and screaming in joy after he broke the guys arm. That's just not a good attitude to have. Which is why I say change it from Mixed MARTIAL arts to Mixed FIGHTING arts. Nothing martial about this.
jbhooyah 2 years ago
Usually you only want to hurt them while you are fighting. After the fight you are both just two people.
SundiMundi 2 years ago
@jbhooyah they knew the risks coming in. not everyone is a GSP.
shoegazer666 1 year ago
@jbhooyah
Aoki is a well known douchebag. In his last fight he intentionally broke the guys arm and then flipped him a finger when he was lying on the floor injured.
tryton8 1 year ago