Abortion Clinic Prostests in Cleveland, Ohio - 4

[tracy064]

Have you been able to stop anyone from this selfish act?

[ConservativeAtheist]

@tracy064: Yes a month or two ago many attended a little girls birthday that was a result of our efforts.

[katrinamelody]

I don't get the whole, birth control kills children. So it's not okay to prevent an un planned pregnancy and its not okay to terminate an un planned pregnancy?

[ConservativeAtheist]

I agree that makes absolutely no sense.

My position is (Life of the Mother/Rape/Incest) other than that I consider Abortion Murder.

Now I don't have a problem with (Plan-B AKA the Morning After Pill) because that flushes the egg out in a forced menstration before it can attach to the uteral wall and before meaningful developement can occur.

[undertow9x]

@ConservativeAtheist So if the women was raped its not murder? So aborting a pregnancy for reasons YOU see as being OK are not murder. Now let me ask you this. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? What gives you the right to tell people what they can and can't do with there body? You can not make it ok for some then not ok for others. Have a nice day ConservativeAsshole Oh i mean atheist.........

[leiapeison]

ru-46 is an abortion pill and is not birth control. the pill,the shot and iud do not end a pregnancy. they do not kill

[leiapeison]

birth control kills children!!!what?

[ConservativeAtheist]

RU486 actually does kill children. Its called the Abortion Pill because it works for the first 67-Days.

[ConservativeAtheist]

I took your post down because you shouldnt be putting your Phone Number on the Net.

[beatnikjd]

These idiots need their asses kicked and hauled away. These people don't even believe in birth control!! ( which prevents abortions) This country is NOT ruled from the vatican--at least no yet!!

[ConservativeAtheist]

Really?....they do huh? The freedom to peacefully protest is one of the founding principles of this great nation and even though you want Abortion Protesters thrown in jail I would be willing to bet you dont want the same for Protesters that agree with your views.

Hipocracy anyone?

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually I believe in Birth Control and it's not just Catholics that ars Anti-Abortion.

[undertow9x]

@ConservativeAtheist No its assholes who appose abortion. They can be catholic or Muslim or christian or atheist but there all assholes.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@undertow9x: If protecting the life of a Child makes me an AssHole then so be it…

[undertow9x]

@ConservativeAtheist First of all you not protecting anyone. All you do is stand out in front of clinics and yell nasty things at people you don't know and, make your self a part of there life when it should be none of your business. Its not your place to do anything. What gives you the right to interfere in peoples life? So ya the fact that you oppose abortion does not make you an asshole. You putting you nose where it does not belong does. Stop being an asshole and leave people alone.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@undertow9x: I don't know nor care what country you are from but in the USA we have the right to Free Speech and it's every citizens right to exercise that speech in the form of protest that's how we created our own nation and how we ended slavery and discrimination and how we brought about other various social changes were beneficial to our society.

You are an uneducated fool and these concepts are beyond your grasp so don't feel to bad when you don't quite understand…

[undertow9x]

@ConservativeAtheist Oh now I am uneducated because I disagree with you. Right on just know this your efforts are futile.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@undertow9x: You are uneducated based on your arguments regardless of whether you agree with me or not and everyone that ever created change through protest was told their efforts were futile but then again I have a nation independent of Brittish rule that argues quite to the contrary…thanks Boston Tea Partiers! Of course Slavery was also abolished through protest by people that was told it was futile…thanks Abolishonists!

[buzgondavis15]

the republicans are what have gotten the USA into this terrible time. When Clinton was in presidency there was lots of surplus money. now we are trillions of dollars in debt..... but you still think it is the democrats....

[ConservativeAtheist]

Clinton did this by shutting down Military bases and pushing Officers into early retirement. Every time we have more than 5-minutes without war we pretend that we now no longer need a Military.

Clintons own people have admitted several times in interviews that the country was heading into a recession the last few years of the Clinton administration and I dont see why they would lie.

War costs money but if its needed its needed and it is. We cant ignore the Muslims as we did the Nazis!

[AuShawster]

There seems to be an usually high amount pro-choice videos being put on Youtube lately. Is this some underhanded Republican Conservative right campaign strategy to get the republicans back into power (now that McCain has conveniently switched to Pro Life just in time for the election). Knowing anti-abortionist don't care about anything but abortions they will stay brainlessly republican.

[ConservativeAtheist]

You mean as Liberals stay Brainlessly Democrat?.....lol

Actually I consider myself more of an Independant Conservative but yes I pretty much always vote Republican because it is always! the lesser of the two evils.....

As far as your paranoid conspiracy theory take yor meds.....lol

[AuShawster]

You are an embarrassment to the atheist community. Although my personal views of abortion are likely much the same as yours, your tunnel vision is anything but objective.

[ConservativeAtheist]

There is no such thing as an Atheist community......lol Atleast there shouldnt be. Atheism is not a Religion and should not be treated as one. The fact that I dont believe in SuperNatural things is simply one small part of who I am.

I am fine with other Atheists not liking my views due to the fact that I am not a follower and I do not seek the aproval of others.

[AuShawster]

Atheism with a capital 'A' is a community independently minded free thinkers who share a common vision of trying to build a world based on reason. I guess that likely excludes you? Your zealot passion for abortion would make it difficult to ever appreciate the world is over populated or anything like that/

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually this country isnt even close to being over populated. As fart as Atheists being Free Thinkers the fact that Atheists almost always back the Liberal Democrats and espouse Socialist and Communist views and that they attack any Atheist that doesnt fall in line proves that they arent Independently Minded Free Thinkers at all.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist Please note I said 'world',and you replied with "this country" Contrairy to the thinking of Bible thumping gun toting flag waving Republicans the world extends outside of border of America.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Yes you said World but there are certain things that I care about. We cant help it if other parts of the world have been or currently are breeding themselves out of existance.

In your Insinuation you are trying to say you dont like what you would probably refer to as the (America First) croud. I must say waying my options I would prefer to be a part of that group than what many have referred to as the (America Last) croud which I can see you are a proud member of.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist What I am saying is This abortion issue is so filled with emotion, many people involved tend to loose sight of the bigger picture. Regardless whether you are pro this or anti that the issue of killing babies won't matter a fuck if we do not have a planet to put them. Zealot thinking on any issue is unhealthy for you and unhealthy for everyone when you have a right to vote.

[ConservativeAtheist]

You see I dont think deciding that one issue is so important to you that you wont vote for anyone that supports the opposition.

Do not many Liberals proudly argue that they wont vote for anyone that wont pull the troops out immediately?

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist I would hope that the overall consensus of the American public would be smarter then any individuals. Whether Kerry would have been a stronger president then Bush. I can't know, Can Obama put his money where his mouth is? I do not know that either. I am very suspect of rebublican fear mongering. What I do know is many involved in this Conservitive right Pro-Live movement would vote for Jucifer G.W. Satan if he said he was pro-live. That is the point I want to hit home.

[ConservativeAtheist]

To me the last nail in Obamas coffin was him attending a openly Racist Church for over 20-Years and then claiming he didnt know it was a Racist Church.

You cant be married by the man and have him baptise your kids and say that you consider him as being like a family member and then turn around and say but some how I didnt catch that he was an Anti-American Racist durring the last 20-Years that I knew him.

[GBAmerica2008]

ConservativeAtheist "Wright, To me the last nail in Obamas coffin" I never noticed green Taurus Wagons on the road till I bought one.. The difference between me and you is I am aware of my own subjective bias. You don't see democrats making a big deal of Wright?. Try really hard to step back from your own prejudges. What about that rasist asshole preacher McCain was involved with? (I know that isn't important to Republicans)

[ConservativeAtheist]

You see this is what bothers me about Liberals. No one had a problem with McCain and Rev. John Hagee until it was proven Obama went to an Openly Racist church for over 20-years.

The difference being that John Hagee made a one or two questionable statements compared to over 20-years of openly racist sermons, comments nd actions.

You are the same type of people that claiming hanging nooses in a tree is equivalent to 6 boys beating and stomping someone till they are unconcious.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Instead of admitting that something is wrong you try to find the slightest thing on the other side and claim thats just as wrong.....lol

If Obama were White he would have been out of the race as soon as this all came to light.

On a different note I fond it interesting that Liberals call everyone thats Mixed-Black.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist I don't think you'll like taking American politic lessons from a Canadian but you just are not seeing the forest...There really is two distinct Republican parties The ruling class with the money that rule the sheeple. Then there are the sheeple who buy into what ever the ruling class is telling you. It is this marriage between big business and the conservatives we now call the republican party. It wasn't always that way. At one time the GOP where the progressives.

[ConservativeAtheist]

I find it somewhat amusing that you think you know more about U.S. Political History than I do.

The idea that big business is pure evil and is at fault for everything is a child like simple minded notion at best. Without big business we have virtually nothing.

The reason why we have medical break throughs and all of the technology we have is do to big business.

Last but not least I could never support the Liberal Social Views of the Democrats.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist "U.S. Political History" Yes, I figured so much. Fun facts here, The United States is the most hated country in the world. (Canada and maybe the UK (likely excluded) Yes without business you will have nothing but The Republicans do not care about people. That is why America is a two class society, The have and the have not. Oh yes, they say they are against abortions but only to get votes from the cognitively challanged. Which type of republic are you rich or stupid?

[ConservativeAtheist]

Neither actually. Another Liberal that thinks anyone that disagrees with him must be stupid....lol

Republicans care about people they simply want those people to work for a living and be a successful contributing member of society instead of a burden to those who are.

The Natives in Canada Despise you which is one of the reasons I always find it so interesting that that fact is never discussed when talking about the Native Americans.

I saw one of your Baby Seal hunts oh wise one....lol

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually no one on this planet would have anything if it were not for big business.

Everyone hates Number1#.....when it was the Brits everyone hated them and now that we have taken the lead it is the U.S..

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist Actually speaking only for myself the thing I hate most about America is Americans. Not all of them mind you just the ones brainwashed to think you are #1 because of a piece of dirt you sit on.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Well actually we base it on our success in the world including our status of being the only remaining SuperPower as stated by others our friends as well as our enemies.

You should watvch the featured video on my Profile Page to get some sort of idea of what I am talking about.

Your very existance is due to the fact that you are a border nation of the U.S. which seems to have caused some of you to have feelings of envy coupled with resentment.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Liberals never seem to be able to grasp why anyone would support a party that doesnt offer free hand outs and instead wants everyone to work for a living in competitive free market.

I think thats because they fight for what they want and not whats right and best for society.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist You might want to read Scott McClellan's new book prior to November.

It is further evodence that the republican voters are the stupid sheeple being led along

[ConservativeAtheist]

I have read exerpts of his recent bok and I am not all that impressed. Its similar to all of the Bill Clinton books that came out after people leave their posts.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist Many Liberals do argue that they won't vote for anyone that wont pull the troops out immediately? This Iraq war has turned out to be a bigger fuckup then Vietnam. The war is the biggest can of worms the united Stated ever opened. Face the music Regardless what decisions you make now you will never go back into a pre-911 world.

[ConservativeAtheist]

I agreed with both Wars VietNam and the Iraq War. The problem is simply this we no longer fight to win. We try to fight these politically correct wars with the media holding everything we do under a microscope.

No one wants to watch the cow slaughtered right before they eat no matter how much they want the steak. As for VietNam I watched interviews of VietCong Generals saying that their biggest weapon against the USA was the Liberal Protests...from enemies own mouths after the war is over

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist I wouldn't as a Canadian tell you who to vote for. just make the best informed decision. Come on Would you want someone who really believes the world is 6 thousand years old with finger on the button ready for Armageddon

[ConservativeAtheist]

I have to weigh all options and decide who I consider to be the lesser of the two evils and so far thats always been the Republicans and consider my options here it looks like it will be them again.

If you agree with most of my political and societal views I dont care if you came to that conclusion as a result of rational thought or because a Leprecan told you to.....I am a pragmatist.

[AuShawster]

NEWS FLASH although Bullshit may be the grease that lubricates the orbit of the planet, abortion is not the only issue in the upcoming election. After 7 years of Bush now at a 30% aproval rating, I though only a faith-tard would put George W McCain in for a third term. A guess it's true nationalistic extremeism is exactly the same as religious extremism.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Well the only people I ever hear use the term Tard as in (Fuck-Tard) or I guess in your case (Faith-Tard) are people that belong on the Jerry Springer Show.

That being said there are things I dont like about Bush but trust me they arent the same things you dont like....lol

McCain isnt my first choice but unfortuately he is better than a (BullDyke-Socialist) or a (BlackPower-Racist-AntiAmerica­n-Socialist).

Rev.Wright: Married Obama, Baptised his Kids, and was referrred to as like family

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist Let me guess.. Ron Paul

If you were a skeptically minded atheist instead of a spoon fed Republican propagandist, you would know, Obama had no choice but to sit in church if running for office in the US in this current American zeitgeist.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually I liked Mit Romney. Ron paul is one of those left over anti-WW2 Isolationist fools that thinks we can simply close our borders and stick our heads in the sand while the rest of the world self destructs.

Didnt work in 1936 and it wont work now.

[AuShawster]

How could that be? Romney was on record as well as his mother for being a strong supporter of upholding pro-choice laws

Why else do you think he lost out to Huckabee. magic underwear?

It is wasn't for the strength of the'Conservitive' anti-abortionist movement in the US Romney would have overtaken Huckabbe and likely McCain. Romney would have faired far better running against OBama then McCain. This is an excellent example of the danger of Zealot Anti-abortionest and/or 'FAITH-TARDED' thinking

[ConservativeAtheist]

Well Romney changed his views on Abortion supposedly which I find very suspect. Weighing all of my options I thought he was the best Candidate. As far as McCain goes he isnt nearly Conservative enough for me but I do believe he has the best chance at beating the Democrats in Nov.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist LOL Changing their view on abortion is like sitting in church, part of the electorial process of America. You neglected to comment on zeilot thinking distroying Mit Romneys bid for the Whitehouse.

A lot of zealots lack the ability of weighing options especially on an issue as emotionally charged as abortion

[ConservativeAtheist]

For some people Abortion was their main focus so they didnt vote for Romney thats how the political process works.

[AuShawster]

Did zeilot thinking distroy Mit Romneys bid for the Whitehouse or not.

[AuShawster]

The answer requires a yes or a no

[ConservativeAtheist]

Well this isnt a court of Law and I am not on the stand so I will answer with an explanation if I deem it a fit response.

[AuShawster]

ConservativeAtheist you wont be cornered There might be some good reasons why Romney was defeated As an atheist, I just do not see his being a mormon was one of them.

Maybe it was partly that he flip flopped on the abortion issue. Neither side of the debate thought he could be trusted,

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually one of the reasons I had heard was that Liberals would point out the past views mormons had of blacks.

Mormons do have some odd beliefs but I have seen some really intelligent ones like Glenn Beck.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Oh and Obama attended one of those nut case BlackPower racist churches because He agreed with the teachings otherwise he wouldnt have.

You can know a man for over 2-years and consider him like family and attend his church where he openly preaches racial hatred and anti-American propaganda and not agree with it......If this were a White Politician we wouldnt even be having this conversation because he would have been immediately ruined as soon as any rumors about this came to light.

[neotropic9]

Birth control kills children? LOL.

Hey, guess what, not raping every woman you see also "kills children", if your standard for killing children is preventing their production. Better start a-rapin'!

Killing people is wrong. The question is what is the standard for person-hood. I would sooner grant person-hood to dogs, cats, and other animals than to unborn babies, since the former have more evidence for possession of personalities, thoughts, and emotions.

[ConservativeAtheist]

I dont think Birth Control is killing children.....thats not my sign.

[neotropic9]

OK, but it was someone on your side. What does it tell you that you have such people on your team? You're on the wrong team!

It is no coincidence that you have such stupid people on your side, and the opposing side has most of the smart ones.

Anyways, once again, the question is the standard for person-hood. And moreover, whether it is more moral to allow a non-conscious embryo to develop into a human ans be born to parents who do not want a child, than to simply disallow that development.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually I disagree completely. I agree if someone is brain dead and can not ever recover but in this case its a developing human being that will fully develope without outside intervention which is a completely different situation altogether.

As far as Leftists being more Intelligent arent all of the Nut Case Conspiracy Theorists on the Left? You know the ones that think the Illuminati along with the Freemasons rule the world.....lol!!!

I have yet to meet a Conservative 9/11 Lunatic! ;)

[Cheese4Everyone]

dude its not killing if its just a cell lol once its grows a brain and it could think then its a living ting before that its just a sperm cell evolving

[ConservativeAtheist]

Actually thats far from the truth. The pictures on that sign clearly show a human head.