@ChaneyBrinkmanBurlin i know i was just think that. I did aesthetics in philosophy. not forgetting Kant or Marcuse.. art i dont think can be completely subjective because we wouldnt have artworks that are pretty much universally accepted as 'great' but then it does seem that feeling and emotion has a huge role. was it wittgenstein that was talking about the artwork being 'you' rather than the work? I dont remember im afraid
I think Colin nailed it. Its what you think is art. A lot of people would say the Mona Lisa is art but someone else could look at it and not see it as art. Cage's example of the violinist, you can't claim someone is an artist and their interpretation of Bach is art. You say it is art because thats just how it affects you. Someone else could listen to that and say no I don't think that's art. A carpenter could make a rocking chair and some could see it as art others just a rocking chair.
Look at Nicolas Cage, who showed up in his little suit to sit amongst those other fine actors. Look at the way he tries to lead the discussion and get everyone to ponder acting as art. And what's this? He listens to violinists play Bach in his spare time? Wow, he must be a VERY cultured guy! Ha ha!
He's trying to behave as though everyone's forgotten what's on his resume. We haven't forgotten, Cage. We remember The Wicker Man.
@johnnytastetest hahaha yeah but on his day (Bad Lieutenant) he is one of the most watchable actors around. Just a shame he does so many effin stupid films with him just hamming it up.
Acting is not art, only in a culture obsessed with image over substance would acting be considered art. It's not the actor but the work of Shakespeare which is the art, I think this is one of the reasons there has never been & never will be an American Shakespeare or Michelangelo. You people are obsessed with image & that is why you will always produce & promote things like Kiss, whilst any artistic talent you may produce is crushed under the weight of hollywood industry i.e.singers like Odetta.
Watch Nicolas Cage in 'Bad Lieutenant' and tell me acting isn't fucking art. In fact, in that movie he went beyond art into something even more awesome. Why didn't he get his second Oscar(or at least nomination) for that performance ??? Pssshhhh I don't even like the Oscars or it's bullshit politics anyways...
Why is nicolas cage leading this discussion? he's a pompous douche who has less talent in his entire body than the actors around him have in their fingernail. when you hear morgan freemen, christopher waltz, colin firth, and stanley tucci.... the next name you hear is definently not nicolas cage. What is art? anything that doesn't involve nicolas cage.
Seeing crap like this just makes me dislike actors even more. I think the reason Waltz was so quiet is because he knows how pretentious that whole scenario is and I think he felt stupid. Seriously, how embarrassing is this? Cage was just making it worse. Waltz was wise to sit quietly and say very little. The ass kissing of Freeman at the end by Cage was the icing on the sponge cake. Cringeworthy!
@DonRMB For almost every bad thing he's done, he's done something good. Watch Lord of War. Nic Cage isn't a bad actor. He's just bold. I mean what actor in their right mind would punch a woman in a bear suit for a movie? No one. That's why he's unique. He's willing to go the extra mile to do something bizarre and awesome.
Regardless of what I may think of Nicholas Cage (haven't given it a thought, actually), it's quite obvious that he holds Morgan Freeman in a very high place. He almost used this interview to interview Morgan Freeman! :D
Nic Cage should have followed Bad Lieutenant with something special. seriously, THAT WAS HIS COMEBACK! after Adaption, he seemed to have dissapeared. Werner Herzog "let him loose" again, in a good way.
maybe after a few years he gives us something special again.
What Christopher Waltz said sounds exactly like what his character Landa would say in his situation. Quentin Tarantino casted him perfectly, it's not that he's a great actor.
eat shit Cage!! you dont hold a candle to any of the other geniuses here. You know what ill disagree with Firth for the sake of my argument here...what these other people have done IS art what nicolas cage has done is ACCIDENT..
@tamerswan dude i wont respect any actor who could read a script like drive angry or ghost rider and says that its a great movie to star in. I Could read those scripts full of horseshit and turn them down. Cage can't make art ever EVER. he is making movies to make money, not cause he is proud. if he was proud of his job, he would work with great directors like scorsese. Not that a immensely talented director like Martin Scorsese would let this peice of shit star in his masterpieces.
What about "Leaving Las Vegas ??" if that film isn't ART then I don't know what is. Just because you don't like Cage' newest acting ventures doesn't mean you should disregard him completely...
@TheEvilelvis89 ya M Night Shyamalan made art at the begening of his career too. i agree leaving las vegas is art, but you know dam well, he no longer gives a flying shit about acting, he just wants to get the paychecks so he can go fuck around. thats all he wants to do, i mean the retard turns down a Darren Aronofsky project to do some stupid shit blockbuster, i mean what kind of retarded actor turns down a darren aronofsky project PERIOD.
You might be right about him only in it for the money as of recent(due to his financial troubles) but I'm pretty much certain Aronofsky turned him down. Nicolas Cage researched the part for a few weeks and was then dropped because Aronofsky didn't feel he was right. There's a Howard Stern interview with him on youtube where he admits this.
@TheEvilelvis89 ya you know what i mean though, dude he declined so much, i dont think i have ever seen an actor just blow off his career like that, frank and honest. i mean what bullshit is he doing, seriously. He is a COPPOLA for fucksakes, his uncle made the godfather, sofia coppola is a oscar winning screen play writers. both sofia and francis make prestigious art films, and how can this guy even degrade himself to level where he does the shit films he is been doing lately..... seroiously.
He just never gave a fuck I think lol it's the way he is. I respect him for being ballsy but another level I wish he wouldn't do just any film thrown at him...
@TheEvilelvis89 I want you to youtube Nicholas Cage's Agent and click on the first link. i think that pretty much sums up my opinion about how nicholas Cage is in real life. Him and that fucking joke of a producer jerry bruckhiemer, jerry bruckhiemer corrupted so many great talents into making silly shit blockbusters, AKA Johnny depp in the shiity pirates 2-3-4. jake gyleenhaal in prince of persia...... relaly the list goes on.
@malows1234 What Aronofsky film did he turn down? Are you talking about The Wrestler.....in that case it was a good decision...only because he was incable of achieving the physical requirements of the character....and he would still be the second choice....as Aronofksy said by the time he was working on the final draft he had no doubt that Rourke was THE CHARACTER.....but yea....Cage is just doing TERRIBLE films.....and sadly.....it doesn't seem like anything's going to change with him....
@KayWildcat ya, its sad because he had talent bak in the day, and he is just embarrasing himself right now. i mean he is one of the COPPoLA's. he is related to fancis ford coppola for fucksakes, how much more motivation do you need to suceed. it just baffles me, i dont get wtf he is doing.
@malows1234 Well, I do think he still has talent. I kind of like the fact that he doesn't grow on with tag of a Coppola. He clearly understands the value acting, but it doesn't seem to me that he even tries....his script choices are terrible...and now he's making Ghost Rider 2?! When I saw the first poster in ComicCon I knew that the Cage that I loved back in the day is gone...now it's just this idiotic actor who is unable to see a good script from a bad one. But, I did hear that he's in debt...
@KayWildcat honestly, i am asking this question cause i am confused. you think he actually can't tell good script from bad, or that he doesn't give a shit about good from bad and he is just going for a juicy paycheck. cause honestly man a person with 0 perccent creativity could read the shitty scripts he is been accepting and know that they are shit. i mean i could tell those scripts were probably so bad, not even martin scorsese himself could make them slightly entertainig. what do you think?
@malows1234 Well, I personally think that he is one of those actors who just says yes to everything...(probably because he's in...or was in a situation where he needed the money). But you have to remember that what we see on film may not be as bad as how it was on paper. Execution is another huge flaw in Cage's recent films. You shouldn't speak for a situation you weren't and probably won't be in. Either way, I could tell that Cage actually wants to be apart of some of the films he did...
I feel like these guys are full of caca (kah-kah! kah-kah!) for the beginning of this convo, like look at nic cage's forehead. But I like what Tucci finally says about art having to be individually truthful. I say good day, old chap!
Performing arts are done in the moment; acting, modeling, playing music, sports etc. What the audience usually receives is another artists abstraction of that moment. For example, when a photographer takes a picture of a sculpture, or an audio engineer records a vocal track. It's weird to imagine that one's art is another person's medium.
Nah I love everyone at this table, it's great that they care about acting as a skill and an 'art' in some ways rather than just a way to make a lot of money.
is this the oscar worthy? i pick colin firth and morgan freeman, stanley tucci is the new comer for oscar competition we'll see later, i know waltz got the oscar but he and nick cage just not a class!! any real versatile actors maybe, like male version of meryl streep.. hmm i still like daniel day lewis
Well, Waltz in the Green Hornet....Yes, good point. But people need to rent some movies of another great actor who made some bad choices. I recommend Ghost Rider or National Treasures. Award Winners getting together. Great stuff, nothing to argue about in my opinion.
I like Nic more than Christoph as well, but please give Christoph a break. He's done brilliant movies in German before "Inglorious Basterds" happened and he's a great actor like all the others around that table. Maybe he just doesn't talk as much because it's difficult to join such a lively discussion when it's not your native tongue.
That said, I think those discussions are a brilliant idea and should be done more often, instead of all the rainbow press interviews that happen all the time.
@sturzynski : inglorious basterds vs Bad Lieutenant, Leaving Las Vegas, Wild at Heart, Adaptation, Vampire;s Kiss, Matchstick Men etc.....go fuck yourself
great Nicholas Cage on screen performances: Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Raising Arizona, Bad Lieutentant, Vampires Kiss, Matchstick Men, Bringing Out the Dead, Kiss of Death ( to name a few)..great Christoph Waltz on screen performances: Inglorious Basterds..umm..Inglorious Basterds..Green Hornet ?CageHaters should get themselves a reality check by reading a few books & watching a few films before jumping on the "Cage is shit but Waltz is amazing " train..otherwise go fuck yourselves
@razorraymarv yaya watever waltz hasn't had that many chances, but i dont really give a fuck if u think waltz is a loser i wont fight that. But CAge is a big fucking sellout loser too, i dont give a flying fuck if he did leaving las vegas, it obviously was a fucking fluke if the same actor did shit like ghost rider, national treasure. There is no fucking way cage is an actor, he is a fucking movie star making money of retards who think he is a actor. Any actor who has been in movies he has been
@razorraymarv Christoph Waltz has been acting for years. He just recently started acting in America. Nicholas Cage isn't necessarily someone who would succeed outside the US. I hate to break it to you.
@frankthecow13 youre completely wrong. nicolas cage is a great actor.. weather man, adaptation, etc. hes a guy who likes to have fun and he wants to make a lot of money, theres nothing wrong with that. sometimes a bad nicolas cage movie can be a good experience.
Christoph Waltz is now playing the baddie in "The Green Hornet"..what a fucking genius..all the bandwagon jumping idiots who thought Waltz was the bees knees after ONE performance last year , yet decided that Nicholas Cage was rubbish can go fuck themselves...Waltz isn't good enough to tie Cage's fucking shoelaces..Waltz is a one hit wonder/flash in the pan/fly by nighter...Cage has nearly 3 decades of solid film & theatre work behind him..'Bad Lieutenant"pisses over anything Waltz will ever do
@machiaveliyoohoo ok i will agree christoph waltz is overrated but lets be brutally honest here i have a normal job and i go to work everyday, and fucking nicholas cage is not good enough to tie my showlace. I have more fuckin pride in my work than that sellout peice of crap. I am going to love this one. Now i want u to try defending the actor who scorcer's apprentice, bangkok dangerous, ghost rider, and several other movies. PLEASE dont call CAge a actor, he is a movie star who does stupid shit
I don´t know if you know this, but Christoph Waltz is also acting since 10 to 15 years. Of course you might not ever heard anything of him because he was only known in Austria and maybe Germany.
So I think Waltz might dissappear on the big screen of Hollywood in the future, but this doesn´t mean that he might become a worse actor!!
And come on, also Cage has played in many Fucking movies, you might call "solid". (For example: Seasons of the witch)
@90mv Facts that exist about everything in life. And not this agree to disagree nonsense, or hiding behind opinion so no one is wrong. Can't ever get to RIGHT if no one is wrong. Acting is art, but not all of it, all the time.
@machiaveliyoohoo Go and watch Waltzs German films, and see the recent 'Water for Elephants'. A one hit wonder? No fucking chance. The man is a solid actor and has huge roles coming up including the new Tarantino movie. (not as a villain this time around) I like the movies Cage is in especially 'Lord of War' but Waltz hands down is a better actor. He has been an actor for over 30 fucking years. Like I said, watch his german films, they are brilliant.
Am I the only one who absolutely resents the fact that Nicolas Cage is at this table? Like, can he just shut the hell up, please? He's repeating himself and it's unnecessarily annoying.
wow where was this filmed? I can imagine how awesome it would be to just walk past a restaurant and suddenly realize that Nicholas Cage, Stanley Tucci, Morgan Freeman, Colin Firth, Vince Vaughn and Christoph Waltz just happen to be eating there.
@MorganScorpion you don't sound clever or rational, you sound like an idiot. films and performances have to look real otherwise they aren't very good. in order for the actors to be believeable in their roles, they have to actually feel as if it's real so that their performances can come across as truthful. if they don't feel truthful then their performances won't be natural and everything will look crap, is that what you want to happen?
@MorganScorpion yeah but the messages are usually true, it's not about the truthfulness of the events so much as the ideas driving them.. are they universal truths that people can connect with
all of you people who are cutting down Cage sound close minded and naive, i personally love him as an actor. Waltz, Freeman, Sarsgaard, Tucci, and Firth are all great, and they all have valid points. it's all apples and oranges.
Simply put, Art Is created. If you don't consider yourself the creator, you're nor the artist. I doubt anyone would agree that Cage owns his roles. He is performing someone else's art. Most acting is purely a craft. However, most people would agree that if you take an existing piece of art in a fundamentally new direction it becomes yours. Artists- Art Sonny Bono- Bang Bang vs. Raconteurs- Bang Bang Mannie Garcia Photo of Obama vs. Shepard Fairey Poster
Nic Cage didn't deserve to be at that table to begin with and because he was those gods of all that is acting had to sit there and listen to him basically ask the same asinine question over and over and over and over again. Gah! lol
I have a feeling that Christoph Waltz will come back to europe, in america its just about hollywood,glamour,explosions,sex,money,money. There is no art.
@baznian Christoph Waltz has taken multiple film roles since winning his Oscar. He's the bad guy in the upcoming Green Hornet movie and PW Anderson's Three Musketeers. He also took a role in the next Polanski movie 'God of Carnage'.
He was a anonymous tv actor in Germany, no way he goes back to strictly European films.
@baznian Hate to break it to you, but the film industry in Europe is the SAME. Christoph left the German film industry to come here PRECISELY because it was so limiting and shallow. Granted, the stages in Europe are far deeper and more valued, but that was not a venue that he wanted to pursue.
Yes, you mindless, meme-spewing plebeians, Cage made a good movie that year. It was called Bad Lieutenant, and he was great in it. Go watch it and better your lives.
wtf is nic cage doing there. lol. I mean..did he even have a good movie out this year in awards season? I thought that was required for these roundtables
I actually think Nicolas Cage is very intelligent and sincerely engaging the question. I also think he's given some remarkable performances (Leaving Las Vegas, Moonstruck, and Adaptation come to mind). I just think he's got some dreadful people around him who don't help him get parts where he can really shine. Plus now with all his money problems, he's lookin' for Con Air 2 for sure.
Again why are people comparing Cage and Waltz? Waltz stated that Tarantino gave back his acting career, meaning he didn't care much for his earlier performances, meaning he's only really done on real film. Cage to this day is still making movies and giving damn good performances. Wikipedia people actually look at what he's done, there is more than just Wicker Man. But than maybe people wont have much of an argument when they realize he's actually a better actor.
@thechallenger9000: the reason they are being compared is because of some of the rubbish written on this post ( by those who know nothing about film/actors) about Waltz being a "genius" after 1 performance and Cage all of a sudden, being a non-talent because he's appeared in the odd stinker ( as if no other great film actor has ever done ordinary work).You judge an artist by his COMPLETE body of work , not if he's the flavour of the month.Cage is a PROVEN great actor..Waltz is NOT
Waltz indeed is. i´m german and have seen some great perfomances. just because he isn´t under your radar doesn´t mean he isn´t a "proven great actor". BTW, Waltz is a proven great theater-actor as well, don´t think cage would be able to give a good performance on stage
@gta345 " Damn a chill goes through everyone's spine and everything goes silent when Waltz starts speaking ".Yeah, I get a chill from his utter pretentiousness and the silence is the sound of the other actor's falling asleep. Waltz is a 1 hit wonder.he'll be the umm, "European" villain in the next Bond movie or the next Vin Diesel classic and then he'll quietly disappear..Cage in the meantime will continue to do great work like Bad Lieutenant, a role Waltz couldn't bring off in a million years.
Acting definatly is an art in my eye's. Such as the corriography in the movie Next,
or the much of the bucket list movie I'm surrprised Jack Nickleson was not included in this topic.... I am sure he would have good insight on the topic of art and acting.
Nic Cage makes some really thought-provoking points and comparisons. His perception of acting as an artistic endeavor, is perhaps the reason why he typically brings something interesting and unique to his acting roles -- especially in his earlier, independent films. It's just too bad that he chose to undermine himself as an actor and to sacrifice his artistic integrity by accepting roles in some arguably horrible films.
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christoph waltz is a one hit wonder...bet you don't remember his name next year...nic cage is the best actor ( apart from freeman and maye tucci) in this group...cage has been around since the 80s ..he has what they call a 'body of work'..Leaving Las Vegas, Wild at Heart, Adapatation, Raising Arizona, Matchstick Men, Vampire's Kiss, Kiss of Death, Bad Lieutenant..these are just some of his great performances..Waltz , apart from "basterds" has done..umm...what has he done?
@deathfromabove77 Wow, you are definitely looking at Christoph Waltz through his English language films, which aren't many. Majority of his work is in German, which unfortunately is not widely available in the U.S. However, in Germany (and Austria) he is considered a grand actor, revered for his eloquence in acting and his roles as the 'bad guy'. You really need to watch more foreign films, 'cause you just made a big mistake on saying 'what has Christoph Waltz done?' He's done A LOT.
@Bunnyontherocks : I'm well aware of Waltz's filmography....and there's STILL no comparison. Regardless of how fond they are in Germany of him, you compare the work, he's not in Cage's league...but of course people like you like to jump aboard the hype/machine, bandwagon..like I said, no one will be talking about him next year
@deathfromabove77 No,I'm not jumping on anything. But you are definitely taking this seriously.Of course he'll be remembered,not for just being an Academy winner, but for being a very good actor.His roles are memorable,and I'm sorry he doesn't have the honor of an American star like Cage to be remembered by people like you.
@Bunnyontherocks : Only stupidity shown here is your own.." His roles are memorable"...apart from " Basterds" , what are these other "memorable roles"
whatever, i love nicolas cage
wiggitywhacked 2 days ago
Nick Cage is ridiculous! Perfect! You can just feel the pills talking.
jaggerlags 1 week ago 2
They could use some philosophers, e.g., Wittgenstein.
ChaneyBrinkmanBurlin 2 weeks ago
@ChaneyBrinkmanBurlin i know i was just think that. I did aesthetics in philosophy. not forgetting Kant or Marcuse.. art i dont think can be completely subjective because we wouldnt have artworks that are pretty much universally accepted as 'great' but then it does seem that feeling and emotion has a huge role. was it wittgenstein that was talking about the artwork being 'you' rather than the work? I dont remember im afraid
razmataz13drums 1 week ago
why is nicholas cage there?
cjstan22 2 weeks ago
nicolas cage is such a fuckwit
hilly998 2 weeks ago
I think Colin nailed it. Its what you think is art. A lot of people would say the Mona Lisa is art but someone else could look at it and not see it as art. Cage's example of the violinist, you can't claim someone is an artist and their interpretation of Bach is art. You say it is art because thats just how it affects you. Someone else could listen to that and say no I don't think that's art. A carpenter could make a rocking chair and some could see it as art others just a rocking chair.
tokiswartooths 4 weeks ago
1.37 is my expression every time Nicholas opens his mouth in pretentious babble.
McMakisha 1 month ago
Colin and Peter could be twins for all I knew.
McMakisha 1 month ago
Well, what Nicholas Cage is doing is definitely NOT art.
calaftheeast 1 month ago
When Christoph Waltz opens his moth, its pure genius
romysthilaire 2 months ago 10
Look at Nicolas Cage, who showed up in his little suit to sit amongst those other fine actors. Look at the way he tries to lead the discussion and get everyone to ponder acting as art. And what's this? He listens to violinists play Bach in his spare time? Wow, he must be a VERY cultured guy! Ha ha!
He's trying to behave as though everyone's forgotten what's on his resume. We haven't forgotten, Cage. We remember The Wicker Man.
"NO!! NOT THE BEES!! NO! YARGHHH!!!"
johnnytastetest 2 months ago 4
@johnnytastetest HAHAHAHAHAHA.
McMakisha 1 month ago
@johnnytastetest hahaha yeah but on his day (Bad Lieutenant) he is one of the most watchable actors around. Just a shame he does so many effin stupid films with him just hamming it up.
iloveneytiri 2 hours ago
Acting is not art, only in a culture obsessed with image over substance would acting be considered art. It's not the actor but the work of Shakespeare which is the art, I think this is one of the reasons there has never been & never will be an American Shakespeare or Michelangelo. You people are obsessed with image & that is why you will always produce & promote things like Kiss, whilst any artistic talent you may produce is crushed under the weight of hollywood industry i.e.singers like Odetta.
ImaginedWriter 2 months ago
Watch Nicolas Cage in 'Bad Lieutenant' and tell me acting isn't fucking art. In fact, in that movie he went beyond art into something even more awesome. Why didn't he get his second Oscar(or at least nomination) for that performance ??? Pssshhhh I don't even like the Oscars or it's bullshit politics anyways...
TheEvilelvis89 2 months ago
Why is nicolas cage leading this discussion? he's a pompous douche who has less talent in his entire body than the actors around him have in their fingernail. when you hear morgan freemen, christopher waltz, colin firth, and stanley tucci.... the next name you hear is definently not nicolas cage. What is art? anything that doesn't involve nicolas cage.
JjM91084 3 months ago
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megafoned 2 months ago
Why is nick cage here?
90thefallen 3 months ago
@90thefallen Because of Bad Lieutenant.
thegodi 2 months ago
Nick seems mad, or maybe he's acting :)
ethanradd 3 months ago
You're all twats Nick cage is awesome.
LukeNAESA10 3 months ago
Seeing crap like this just makes me dislike actors even more. I think the reason Waltz was so quiet is because he knows how pretentious that whole scenario is and I think he felt stupid. Seriously, how embarrassing is this? Cage was just making it worse. Waltz was wise to sit quietly and say very little. The ass kissing of Freeman at the end by Cage was the icing on the sponge cake. Cringeworthy!
LJY08 3 months ago
Obviously you don't need to be intelligent to be a good actor.
MrRazorblade999 3 months ago
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dan11009 4 months ago
get the fuck outta here dickolas
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AirplaneOfDreams 4 months ago
Nicholas Cage made some good points, but he should be mindful about leading the conversation when he isn't nearly the best actor in the room.
TheWhiteStripes3 4 months ago 2
I love how Christopher Waltz stays quiet, then comes in and pretty much finishes the conversation.
pbryant4 5 months ago 2
I still can't believe Nicholas Cage has an Oscar... Has anyone seen the Remake of "The Wicker Man"?
DonRMB 5 months ago
@DonRMB For almost every bad thing he's done, he's done something good. Watch Lord of War. Nic Cage isn't a bad actor. He's just bold. I mean what actor in their right mind would punch a woman in a bear suit for a movie? No one. That's why he's unique. He's willing to go the extra mile to do something bizarre and awesome.
level22productions 5 months ago
Regardless of what I may think of Nicholas Cage (haven't given it a thought, actually), it's quite obvious that he holds Morgan Freeman in a very high place. He almost used this interview to interview Morgan Freeman! :D
TheBrainFlow 5 months ago
"NOT THE BEES"
nzwwefan 5 months ago 2
Nic Cage should have followed Bad Lieutenant with something special. seriously, THAT WAS HIS COMEBACK! after Adaption, he seemed to have dissapeared. Werner Herzog "let him loose" again, in a good way.
maybe after a few years he gives us something special again.
godfatherofwiseguys 6 months ago
Nick Cage is such a fuckin' douche.
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AirplaneOfDreams 6 months ago
What Christopher Waltz said sounds exactly like what his character Landa would say in his situation. Quentin Tarantino casted him perfectly, it's not that he's a great actor.
rainbowfirewave 7 months ago
@tamerswan lol! Thanks! :D Sure! ^_^
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 7 months ago
Nicolas is a douche.
milosQaX 7 months ago
eat shit Cage!! you dont hold a candle to any of the other geniuses here. You know what ill disagree with Firth for the sake of my argument here...what these other people have done IS art what nicolas cage has done is ACCIDENT..
hmcomsat 7 months ago
Shut up Nicholas Cage, you're a court jester sitting at a King's table.
lckisses8x 7 months ago
No way! I wanna eat dinner with Nelson Mandella!
06livefast 7 months ago
1:23 you gotta love that lol he's like "Ehhhhh okay, I'm gonna shut up....so explain"
TheEvilelvis89 7 months ago
@tamerswan lol!
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 8 months ago 2
@tamerswan dude i wont respect any actor who could read a script like drive angry or ghost rider and says that its a great movie to star in. I Could read those scripts full of horseshit and turn them down. Cage can't make art ever EVER. he is making movies to make money, not cause he is proud. if he was proud of his job, he would work with great directors like scorsese. Not that a immensely talented director like Martin Scorsese would let this peice of shit star in his masterpieces.
malows1234 8 months ago
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What about "Leaving Las Vegas ??" if that film isn't ART then I don't know what is. Just because you don't like Cage' newest acting ventures doesn't mean you should disregard him completely...
TheEvilelvis89 8 months ago
@TheEvilelvis89 ya M Night Shyamalan made art at the begening of his career too. i agree leaving las vegas is art, but you know dam well, he no longer gives a flying shit about acting, he just wants to get the paychecks so he can go fuck around. thats all he wants to do, i mean the retard turns down a Darren Aronofsky project to do some stupid shit blockbuster, i mean what kind of retarded actor turns down a darren aronofsky project PERIOD.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234
You might be right about him only in it for the money as of recent(due to his financial troubles) but I'm pretty much certain Aronofsky turned him down. Nicolas Cage researched the part for a few weeks and was then dropped because Aronofsky didn't feel he was right. There's a Howard Stern interview with him on youtube where he admits this.
TheEvilelvis89 7 months ago
@TheEvilelvis89 ya you know what i mean though, dude he declined so much, i dont think i have ever seen an actor just blow off his career like that, frank and honest. i mean what bullshit is he doing, seriously. He is a COPPOLA for fucksakes, his uncle made the godfather, sofia coppola is a oscar winning screen play writers. both sofia and francis make prestigious art films, and how can this guy even degrade himself to level where he does the shit films he is been doing lately..... seroiously.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234
He just never gave a fuck I think lol it's the way he is. I respect him for being ballsy but another level I wish he wouldn't do just any film thrown at him...
TheEvilelvis89 7 months ago
@TheEvilelvis89 I want you to youtube Nicholas Cage's Agent and click on the first link. i think that pretty much sums up my opinion about how nicholas Cage is in real life. Him and that fucking joke of a producer jerry bruckhiemer, jerry bruckhiemer corrupted so many great talents into making silly shit blockbusters, AKA Johnny depp in the shiity pirates 2-3-4. jake gyleenhaal in prince of persia...... relaly the list goes on.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 What Aronofsky film did he turn down? Are you talking about The Wrestler.....in that case it was a good decision...only because he was incable of achieving the physical requirements of the character....and he would still be the second choice....as Aronofksy said by the time he was working on the final draft he had no doubt that Rourke was THE CHARACTER.....but yea....Cage is just doing TERRIBLE films.....and sadly.....it doesn't seem like anything's going to change with him....
KayWildcat 7 months ago
@KayWildcat ya, its sad because he had talent bak in the day, and he is just embarrasing himself right now. i mean he is one of the COPPoLA's. he is related to fancis ford coppola for fucksakes, how much more motivation do you need to suceed. it just baffles me, i dont get wtf he is doing.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 Well, I do think he still has talent. I kind of like the fact that he doesn't grow on with tag of a Coppola. He clearly understands the value acting, but it doesn't seem to me that he even tries....his script choices are terrible...and now he's making Ghost Rider 2?! When I saw the first poster in ComicCon I knew that the Cage that I loved back in the day is gone...now it's just this idiotic actor who is unable to see a good script from a bad one. But, I did hear that he's in debt...
KayWildcat 7 months ago
@KayWildcat honestly, i am asking this question cause i am confused. you think he actually can't tell good script from bad, or that he doesn't give a shit about good from bad and he is just going for a juicy paycheck. cause honestly man a person with 0 perccent creativity could read the shitty scripts he is been accepting and know that they are shit. i mean i could tell those scripts were probably so bad, not even martin scorsese himself could make them slightly entertainig. what do you think?
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 Well, I personally think that he is one of those actors who just says yes to everything...(probably because he's in...or was in a situation where he needed the money). But you have to remember that what we see on film may not be as bad as how it was on paper. Execution is another huge flaw in Cage's recent films. You shouldn't speak for a situation you weren't and probably won't be in. Either way, I could tell that Cage actually wants to be apart of some of the films he did...
KayWildcat 7 months ago
I feel like these guys are full of caca (kah-kah! kah-kah!) for the beginning of this convo, like look at nic cage's forehead. But I like what Tucci finally says about art having to be individually truthful. I say good day, old chap!
afmode301 8 months ago
Oh my god...Nicolas Cage is being so fucking EXTRA.
namemydoglola 8 months ago 2
wait are they saying acting is not an art? what?!!!!!! i am not a professional actor but i am passionate about acting, so i'd have to disagreee!!!
guchi345 8 months ago
lol this is awesome.. some of the greatest performing artists discussing what art is.. with a confused look on all of their faces XD
mobspeak 8 months ago
Despite how hard I rage, at least I'm not Nico Cage.
pontemercy 9 months ago
Performing arts are done in the moment; acting, modeling, playing music, sports etc. What the audience usually receives is another artists abstraction of that moment. For example, when a photographer takes a picture of a sculpture, or an audio engineer records a vocal track. It's weird to imagine that one's art is another person's medium.
JamesHaskin 9 months ago
I'm with Colin Firth, "it's subjective." And then he just dozes off from the rest of the argument.
grprsa 9 months ago 4
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Excuseify 10 months ago
Does Nick Cage always look angry?
Nah I love everyone at this table, it's great that they care about acting as a skill and an 'art' in some ways rather than just a way to make a lot of money.
VamLoveAndKisses 10 months ago
i really like all of them, i think they r amazing actors
lovegc55 10 months ago
cage looks pissed lol
Unloven 10 months ago 4
how is this a reason for a cage waltz battle? i am sure both guys could not care less.
shpinta 11 months ago
is this the oscar worthy? i pick colin firth and morgan freeman, stanley tucci is the new comer for oscar competition we'll see later, i know waltz got the oscar but he and nick cage just not a class!! any real versatile actors maybe, like male version of meryl streep.. hmm i still like daniel day lewis
newflava89AGAIN 11 months ago
I love that Colin sits next to his close buddies at these things. Here with Tucci and this year with Mark Ruffalo.
muichal 11 months ago
Who knew Cage was so deep? Glad to see this side of him. =D
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 11 months ago 3
I can't stand Nic Cage's pompous intonation. Thats what ruins it for me.
sturzynski 1 year ago
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Sakirben 1 year ago
Well, Waltz in the Green Hornet....Yes, good point. But people need to rent some movies of another great actor who made some bad choices. I recommend Ghost Rider or National Treasures. Award Winners getting together. Great stuff, nothing to argue about in my opinion.
tva82 1 year ago
I like Nic more than Christoph as well, but please give Christoph a break. He's done brilliant movies in German before "Inglorious Basterds" happened and he's a great actor like all the others around that table. Maybe he just doesn't talk as much because it's difficult to join such a lively discussion when it's not your native tongue.
That said, I think those discussions are a brilliant idea and should be done more often, instead of all the rainbow press interviews that happen all the time.
SilverRaindrops86 1 year ago
Christoph Waltz is in "The Green Hornet"..........buahahahaha!!!
Reason why Waltz is so quiet at this table is that he does not belong here; Good on him for paying respect to a real actor like Nicholas Cage
deathfromabove77 1 year ago 2
@deathfromabove77 what on earth... Drive angry vs. inglorious bastards. get the F out
sturzynski 1 year ago
@sturzynski : inglorious basterds vs Bad Lieutenant, Leaving Las Vegas, Wild at Heart, Adaptation, Vampire;s Kiss, Matchstick Men etc.....go fuck yourself
deathfromabove77 1 year ago
@deathfromabove77 Your point being? Cage was in "Ghost Rider".
KaiserBecks 11 months ago
great Nicholas Cage on screen performances: Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Raising Arizona, Bad Lieutentant, Vampires Kiss, Matchstick Men, Bringing Out the Dead, Kiss of Death ( to name a few)..great Christoph Waltz on screen performances: Inglorious Basterds..umm..Inglorious Basterds..Green Hornet ?CageHaters should get themselves a reality check by reading a few books & watching a few films before jumping on the "Cage is shit but Waltz is amazing " train..otherwise go fuck yourselves
razorraymarv 1 year ago 6
@razorraymarv yaya watever waltz hasn't had that many chances, but i dont really give a fuck if u think waltz is a loser i wont fight that. But CAge is a big fucking sellout loser too, i dont give a flying fuck if he did leaving las vegas, it obviously was a fucking fluke if the same actor did shit like ghost rider, national treasure. There is no fucking way cage is an actor, he is a fucking movie star making money of retards who think he is a actor. Any actor who has been in movies he has been
malows1234 1 year ago
@razorraymarv Christoph Waltz has been acting for years. He just recently started acting in America. Nicholas Cage isn't necessarily someone who would succeed outside the US. I hate to break it to you.
frankthecow13 9 months ago 16
@frankthecow13 youre completely wrong. nicolas cage is a great actor.. weather man, adaptation, etc. hes a guy who likes to have fun and he wants to make a lot of money, theres nothing wrong with that. sometimes a bad nicolas cage movie can be a good experience.
gregorygumpas 4 months ago
@gregorygumpas don't forget his great performance in bad lieutenant.
everio17 3 months ago
@everio17 that too. and he was also quite awesome in kickass
gregorygumpas 3 months ago
Christoph Waltz is now playing the baddie in "The Green Hornet"..what a fucking genius..all the bandwagon jumping idiots who thought Waltz was the bees knees after ONE performance last year , yet decided that Nicholas Cage was rubbish can go fuck themselves...Waltz isn't good enough to tie Cage's fucking shoelaces..Waltz is a one hit wonder/flash in the pan/fly by nighter...Cage has nearly 3 decades of solid film & theatre work behind him..'Bad Lieutenant"pisses over anything Waltz will ever do
machiaveliyoohoo 1 year ago 2
@machiaveliyoohoo ok i will agree christoph waltz is overrated but lets be brutally honest here i have a normal job and i go to work everyday, and fucking nicholas cage is not good enough to tie my showlace. I have more fuckin pride in my work than that sellout peice of crap. I am going to love this one. Now i want u to try defending the actor who scorcer's apprentice, bangkok dangerous, ghost rider, and several other movies. PLEASE dont call CAge a actor, he is a movie star who does stupid shit
malows1234 1 year ago
@machiaveliyoohoo
I don´t know if you know this, but Christoph Waltz is also acting since 10 to 15 years. Of course you might not ever heard anything of him because he was only known in Austria and maybe Germany.
So I think Waltz might dissappear on the big screen of Hollywood in the future, but this doesn´t mean that he might become a worse actor!!
And come on, also Cage has played in many Fucking movies, you might call "solid". (For example: Seasons of the witch)
GibtsFragen 10 months ago
@machiaveliyoohoo Why do people pass off opinon as fact these days ? both are good let's leave it at that.
90mv 10 months ago 5
@90mv Why do people pass off facts for opinion? Is more like it.
sciomni2008 2 months ago
@sciomni2008 what fact ?
90mv 2 months ago
@90mv Facts that exist about everything in life. And not this agree to disagree nonsense, or hiding behind opinion so no one is wrong. Can't ever get to RIGHT if no one is wrong. Acting is art, but not all of it, all the time.
sciomni2008 2 months ago
@machiaveliyoohoo Go and watch Waltzs German films, and see the recent 'Water for Elephants'. A one hit wonder? No fucking chance. The man is a solid actor and has huge roles coming up including the new Tarantino movie. (not as a villain this time around) I like the movies Cage is in especially 'Lord of War' but Waltz hands down is a better actor. He has been an actor for over 30 fucking years. Like I said, watch his german films, they are brilliant.
AustralianMilitary 8 months ago
I love the facial expressions everyone gives when Nicholas Cage speaks.
filmjunkiee 1 year ago
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nic cage is such a pretentious dick
rhabarberkompott 1 year ago
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Nicholas... shut the f*** up.
mrpinkproduction92 1 year ago
Christoph Waltz is SO right. Gosh, why is he so amazing!!!!!
crushxcrushxbaby 1 year ago
LoL Morgan Freeman, the class of the class looks here like a hobo who was promised free soup at the end :D :D
Stalky24 1 year ago 17
@Stalky24 Hahaha that made me laugh :D
TheSupaplum 5 months ago
@Stalky24
maybe he was acting like one : P
InsaneRequest 4 months ago
Am I the only one who absolutely resents the fact that Nicolas Cage is at this table? Like, can he just shut the hell up, please? He's repeating himself and it's unnecessarily annoying.
moviesrule12345 1 year ago 4
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@moviesrule12345 yes...nicolas cage GO AWAY
lmcgee 1 year ago
wow where was this filmed? I can imagine how awesome it would be to just walk past a restaurant and suddenly realize that Nicholas Cage, Stanley Tucci, Morgan Freeman, Colin Firth, Vince Vaughn and Christoph Waltz just happen to be eating there.
EvrybdyluvsJosh 1 year ago
@EvrybdyluvsJosh I'm ignorant- Sorry, Peter Saarsgard!
EvrybdyluvsJosh 1 year ago
Art has to be truthful?
Since when?
Movies are fantasy. Unreal and untrue by definition. No matter how real you try to make it, it is still an untruth.
C'est n'est pas une pipe.
MorganScorpion 1 year ago
@MorganScorpion you don't sound clever or rational, you sound like an idiot. films and performances have to look real otherwise they aren't very good. in order for the actors to be believeable in their roles, they have to actually feel as if it's real so that their performances can come across as truthful. if they don't feel truthful then their performances won't be natural and everything will look crap, is that what you want to happen?
MegaDontbestupid 1 year ago
@MorganScorpion yeah but the messages are usually true, it's not about the truthfulness of the events so much as the ideas driving them.. are they universal truths that people can connect with
lmcgee 1 year ago
marlon brando said acting is not a art but a skill and a craft
93johnk 1 year ago
Hideing behind a guitar?..Guitar has moved me in so many more ways than any actor..or movie..or hollywood has ever had..and dare I say ever will!!
Piggreenbag 1 year ago
all of you people who are cutting down Cage sound close minded and naive, i personally love him as an actor. Waltz, Freeman, Sarsgaard, Tucci, and Firth are all great, and they all have valid points. it's all apples and oranges.
goldenyearz 1 year ago 2
@goldenyearz I don't think you know what naive even means, at least that's the feeling I get when I read your post. Gibberish.
AbraaCadaver 1 year ago
Nicolas Cage, go away. Now. You do not belong here. Thank you.
FireOnHighEldorado 1 year ago
Cristoph Waltz made the best point out of all of them. Cage is an idiot.
brybry19871987 1 year ago
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Simply put, Art Is created. If you don't consider yourself the creator, you're nor the artist. I doubt anyone would agree that Cage owns his roles. He is performing someone else's art. Most acting is purely a craft. However, most people would agree that if you take an existing piece of art in a fundamentally new direction it becomes yours. Artists- Art Sonny Bono- Bang Bang vs. Raconteurs- Bang Bang Mannie Garcia Photo of Obama vs. Shepard Fairey Poster
JamesHaskin 1 year ago
Don't forget Cage played Kaufman.
andybarone1984 1 year ago
Nic Cage didn't deserve to be at that table to begin with and because he was those gods of all that is acting had to sit there and listen to him basically ask the same asinine question over and over and over and over again. Gah! lol
englove369 1 year ago 2
I want to see the conversation 4 hours after this moment, when Nick Cage is drunk and cussing out Colin Firth and Stanley Tucci! God I'd watch that!
CAK11891 1 year ago 3
ill turn gay for christoph waltz
MrKingtyrant05 1 year ago
@MrKingtyrant05 Seriously? O.o
I'm a girl and can't comprehend why...
agreatgeat 1 year ago
I have a feeling that Christoph Waltz will come back to europe, in america its just about hollywood,glamour,explosions,sex,money,money. There is no art.
baznian 1 year ago 2
@baznian Christoph Waltz has taken multiple film roles since winning his Oscar. He's the bad guy in the upcoming Green Hornet movie and PW Anderson's Three Musketeers. He also took a role in the next Polanski movie 'God of Carnage'.
He was a anonymous tv actor in Germany, no way he goes back to strictly European films.
mattd687 1 year ago
@baznian There is art in Hollywood, just very little.
aleerarose 1 year ago
@baznian Hate to break it to you, but the film industry in Europe is the SAME. Christoph left the German film industry to come here PRECISELY because it was so limiting and shallow. Granted, the stages in Europe are far deeper and more valued, but that was not a venue that he wanted to pursue.
ByeHawks 1 month ago
@ByeHawks don't fool urself. Cristoph went to the US because they were offering him jobs that pay really well.
SydAnneB 1 month ago
@SydAnneB You're fucking retarded if you seriously believe that's the chief reason.
ByeHawks 1 month ago
@ByeHawks uhhhhh.... little boys shouldn't say bad words...
SydAnneB 1 month ago
@SydAnneB great comeback jackass.
ByeHawks 1 month ago
@ByeHawks lol, what is your problem? chill man...
SydAnneB 1 month ago
ew nick cage god just shut up.
ToniAqua 1 year ago
You're awesome Cage, but let it go.
cores717 1 year ago
the people here are so stupid! cage was never a bad actor.
0casteloencantado0 1 year ago
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I love me my Nicolas Cage. Bad Lieutenant Port Of Call New Orleans ROCKS!
I think Nic Cage is an artist
ilovepanslabyrinth 1 year ago 3
Yes, you mindless, meme-spewing plebeians, Cage made a good movie that year. It was called Bad Lieutenant, and he was great in it. Go watch it and better your lives.
spriggan9 1 year ago
wtf is nic cage doing there. lol. I mean..did he even have a good movie out this year in awards season? I thought that was required for these roundtables
gabysucks26 1 year ago
sitting at a table with morgan freeman, stanley tucci, christoph waltz, and colin firth. shut the fuck up nicholas cage.
actingmaniac64 1 year ago
Oh god is anyone watching this and going "Shut the f*ck up Nicolas Cage" lol
Boyonspace 1 year ago 4
I actually think Nicolas Cage is very intelligent and sincerely engaging the question. I also think he's given some remarkable performances (Leaving Las Vegas, Moonstruck, and Adaptation come to mind). I just think he's got some dreadful people around him who don't help him get parts where he can really shine. Plus now with all his money problems, he's lookin' for Con Air 2 for sure.
1214gaia 1 year ago
I love how Christoph Waltz wants to bad hand Nic Cage
XxGermanBitchxX 1 year ago
0:20 Firth: I've seen acting that's definitely not art. *looks towards Nicolas Cage* Cage: Yeah ...
TheSupaplum 1 year ago 3
my deos r da shite (Like this 1)
OfallyaProductions 1 year ago
I love how Cage is so desperate for confirmation that he's an artist....it would be funny if it wasn't so sad
motherXxwarxX 1 year ago 2
I love how they're all in suits and Morgan Freemans just rocked up in a jacket, polo and cap. Classic
sianwuvsyou 1 year ago 3
I feel at 1:37 Christoph is like "Omfg, stfu Nic Cage"
p1rateferl1fe 1 year ago 3
@p1rateferl1fe so true. it's written all over his face.
preppyparisienne 1 year ago
stop dying your hair, nicolas cage. despite what you may think, you are not getting younger.
barges26 1 year ago
The reason Cage is in this roundtable is because he gave one of the best performances of the year in Bad Lieutenant.
spriggan9 1 year ago
i dunno about all that, but bad lieu was a fun movie.
TekkenPlayersVideos 1 year ago
Again why are people comparing Cage and Waltz? Waltz stated that Tarantino gave back his acting career, meaning he didn't care much for his earlier performances, meaning he's only really done on real film. Cage to this day is still making movies and giving damn good performances. Wikipedia people actually look at what he's done, there is more than just Wicker Man. But than maybe people wont have much of an argument when they realize he's actually a better actor.
thechallenger9000 1 year ago
@thechallenger9000: the reason they are being compared is because of some of the rubbish written on this post ( by those who know nothing about film/actors) about Waltz being a "genius" after 1 performance and Cage all of a sudden, being a non-talent because he's appeared in the odd stinker ( as if no other great film actor has ever done ordinary work).You judge an artist by his COMPLETE body of work , not if he's the flavour of the month.Cage is a PROVEN great actor..Waltz is NOT
machiaveliyoohoo 1 year ago
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Waltz indeed is. i´m german and have seen some great perfomances. just because he isn´t under your radar doesn´t mean he isn´t a "proven great actor". BTW, Waltz is a proven great theater-actor as well, don´t think cage would be able to give a good performance on stage
salsadancer2540 1 year ago
Cue offended musicians who believe they are one with their guitars and not hiding behind them.
lactoseme 1 year ago
Damn a chill goes through everyone's spine and everything goes silent when Waltz starts speaking
gta345 1 year ago
@gta345 " Damn a chill goes through everyone's spine and everything goes silent when Waltz starts speaking ".Yeah, I get a chill from his utter pretentiousness and the silence is the sound of the other actor's falling asleep. Waltz is a 1 hit wonder.he'll be the umm, "European" villain in the next Bond movie or the next Vin Diesel classic and then he'll quietly disappear..Cage in the meantime will continue to do great work like Bad Lieutenant, a role Waltz couldn't bring off in a million years.
machiaveliyoohoo 1 year ago
Acting definatly is an art in my eye's. Such as the corriography in the movie Next,
or the much of the bucket list movie I'm surrprised Jack Nickleson was not included in this topic.... I am sure he would have good insight on the topic of art and acting.
HarlequinHelen 1 year ago
where is jeremy rener from hurt locker, wasent he nominated too
ELIVILLEGAS10 1 year ago
finally i found the full film at
watch !!! last !!! movies. com (delete !!!'s)
tobievandenbergqp 1 year ago
Nicolas Cage is a DOUCH
OrginalKork 1 year ago
I was going to say...You are right Nic... No one does not bring something of themselves to their performance, in music or in acting.
BobbieJeanS 1 year ago
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BobbieJeanS 1 year ago
Acting is either "Art", or plain out lying. I'm not sure. You could be great at both.
BobbieJeanS 1 year ago
The difference is Nic, you can't play a guitar. And I can, with my mind and my body,
"Heart and Soul"...brother..."Art and Soul". And that was vodka in your glass...:)
BobbieJeanS 1 year ago
Nic Cage makes some really thought-provoking points and comparisons. His perception of acting as an artistic endeavor, is perhaps the reason why he typically brings something interesting and unique to his acting roles -- especially in his earlier, independent films. It's just too bad that he chose to undermine himself as an actor and to sacrifice his artistic integrity by accepting roles in some arguably horrible films.
dancebaby808 1 year ago
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christoph waltz is a one hit wonder...bet you don't remember his name next year...nic cage is the best actor ( apart from freeman and maye tucci) in this group...cage has been around since the 80s ..he has what they call a 'body of work'..Leaving Las Vegas, Wild at Heart, Adapatation, Raising Arizona, Matchstick Men, Vampire's Kiss, Kiss of Death, Bad Lieutenant..these are just some of his great performances..Waltz , apart from "basterds" has done..umm...what has he done?
deathfromabove77 1 year ago
@deathfromabove77 Wow, you are definitely looking at Christoph Waltz through his English language films, which aren't many. Majority of his work is in German, which unfortunately is not widely available in the U.S. However, in Germany (and Austria) he is considered a grand actor, revered for his eloquence in acting and his roles as the 'bad guy'. You really need to watch more foreign films, 'cause you just made a big mistake on saying 'what has Christoph Waltz done?' He's done A LOT.
Bunnyontherocks 1 year ago
@Bunnyontherocks : I'm well aware of Waltz's filmography....and there's STILL no comparison. Regardless of how fond they are in Germany of him, you compare the work, he's not in Cage's league...but of course people like you like to jump aboard the hype/machine, bandwagon..like I said, no one will be talking about him next year
deathfromabove77 1 year ago
@deathfromabove77 No,I'm not jumping on anything. But you are definitely taking this seriously.Of course he'll be remembered,not for just being an Academy winner, but for being a very good actor.His roles are memorable,and I'm sorry he doesn't have the honor of an American star like Cage to be remembered by people like you.
Stupid assertion, really, on your part.
Bunnyontherocks 1 year ago
@Bunnyontherocks : Only stupidity shown here is your own.." His roles are memorable"...apart from " Basterds" , what are these other "memorable roles"