Korean started using metal and martial arts, even before any kingdom existed in island called japan. And when there was japan, it was formed by Korean Baekjae kingdom which escaped to island called japan when they lost the war w/ Korean Silla Kingdom.
to be fair, this sort of forms is more influenced by the 1767 martial arts manual the nuyedobotongji, which is essentially koreas weapons manual from then, however,m that same book states on the first page that in the joseon dynasty the only military based martial art that was widely practiced was archery.
and this leads on to essentially say that, after the imjin war (15th,cen) korea realised it weas seriously lacking, and combined chinese and japanese arts to defend korea. mostly chinese
Don;t forget Korean Navy of 1st armor war ship that completely cut the japan's supply line; this is automatic victory. Also Imjin war was to use Korea to invade mainland Asia, and Koreans made sure that was not going to be easy. Ming Dynasty allied with Korean Joseon Dynasty. Joseon won the war, but Ming later was destroy by Khitan Kingdoms; but Joseon helped Ming but Ming could not lead the war. Joseon fought the Khitan which accepted piece treaty with Joseon.
@klee4 yeah, theres DEFINATELY no dispute that the imjin was almost the peleponnesian war all over again, korea = athens, japan= sparta, japans combined muskets that followed the subsequent rapid advance of samurai to new positions to keep up the momentum. and it worked like a charm
that said, as the battle of the turtle ship illustrates, japan really should have stuck to land battles wherever possible. they had nearly NO artillery, a grave mistake in my opinion,
and mostly this was bcause they simply wanted to get in amongst it,
the hwacha was apparently VERY devestating in the later stages of the war, when the koreans wisened up to use artillery to attack formations in field engagements
This is definitly dark copy of Japanese Iaido/Battoujutsu.
Every Japanese coulture which Koreans love are somehow pronounced differently by them, and one day suddenly Koreans starts claiming it derived from ancient Korea to Japan..
These nationalistic culture theft is just degrading Koreans themselves.
your wrong!!! obviously in KOREAN the pronounce is different. kumdo is how they say kendo in korean. plus Aikido if you said it in korean it would sound wierd
like 아이키도. korean words is broken into parts thats why it will sound wierd.and karate is not taekwondo. taekwondo is another martial art the koreans made and karate is a different martial art japanese made
Your right i may be young but im not stupid. im not stuborn either so i agree the "fact". but i dont agree about the koreans changeing karate changeing to taekwondo.
You doesn't sound stupid. You are just not informed of the facts even master Choi confessed. Taekwondo was identical to Karate 60 years ago.
Taekwondo itself looks cool, but I'm fed up with those made-up origins of Korean martial arts. Korean nationalistic culture theft is just degrading Koreans. Japan Korea
My 2 cents are as follows--who cares who invernted it , who applies it better? Obviously the Koreans dominate the TKD associations and such. A white man invented basketball but white men do not dominate it. So that is how I look at it. Kenyans did not invent the Olympic track and filed distance trials , but they dominate it. Who cares who stole it, invented it. Who will win in the moment is all that counts. If you pour sweat in the dojo/dojang the less you bleed on the filed of battle..
my korean isnt that good because i lived in america for long time but im korean. 사무랑 이 머애요. 사무라이는 일본 식인데 사무랑은 머애요? 그리 고 조선세법 은 거정, 과좌,과우... 12 가지 가 잇 잔아요. 근대 이비디오처럼 진검 갓고 머짤으고 있을 때는 다른 조선세법 을 쓰 나요?
You're retarded. Both Mu in Korean and Bu in Japanese are of the SAME KANJI Characters from China. Just because they share the same characters doesn't mean they're from one country. So if I write APPLE in Chinese, does that mean all apples came from China? If I wrote "Elite-class" in Japanese, does that mean Korean elite class written in the Same kanji mean that ALL Korea elites are from Japan? NO! you're one idiot.
We Japanese call Samurai（侍） as Bushi(武士) or Musha（武者）. But the problem is not the pronounciation of Kanji.
There were Samurai in Japan who use Kenjutsu（剣術） / Iaijutsu（居合術） / Battoujutu（抜刀術）, In Meiji era those skills were sophisticated from 'skill of killing' to 'study of manners and spilits through training' and came to be called Kendo（剣道) / Iaido(居合道).
Were there Musa in Korea who use Iaido style of sword skill? NO RECORD!
and finally. I have nothing against japanese people or their culture. it's unique and awesome. But dood, Korea and Japan are a lot closer to each other than Japan or Taiwan, and Japan or China. I believe when it comes to influence, these two countries influenced each other more than you think. There are similarities in styles, why? Adaptation. Japan invaded korea how many times? pirates raided korean shores how many times? of course they're going to learn something from a fight, right?
You are mostly right. Japan and Korea certainly do have closer ties than anyone wants to admit. In fact, a lot of "Japanese" culture came from Korean soil. However, Korean martial arts have had a more chinese flavor to them seeing as how the two nations were neighbors and had decent relations. Yes, Henki - the katana did come from the Korean Gum. Koreans and Chinese are the ones who taught Japan how to make swords in the first place. Another example of "Japanese" culture having foreign roots.
Hey, what's up :-)? I wouldn't call it Korean fake culture of Japan, however, we are all too aware of Korea stealing another country's culture, making superficial changes to it, then trying to claim that they invented it and it was theirs from the start. It is a shameful practice, but what would you expect from a country that had most of its culture wiped out? Most Korean sword styles are modern variations of Japanese swordsmanship. They are Korean, but they do not have ties to Korea's past.
true that. Korean nationalism/nationalistic history is about as fake as any other country's nationalistic history. Anyways, pointless arguing online, but yes, a lot of influences goes both ways from Korea to Japan, and Japan to Korea. Take TKD. General Choi Hong Hi learned from who? Gichin Funakoshi. Hence, TKD's main ingredient isn't Tae Kyun, but Japanese (China Southern White Crane) Okinawan Karate.
Yes, I agree. Every country loves to embellish their culture and history to make them look more appealing. It is nice to see someone who doesn't blindly buy the Tae Kyun story - there is hope, lol. The arguing is definitely pointless, imho. These cultures are available to all of us, so we should we enjoy them all rather than putting them against each other. Nice to discuss things with a youtuber who has a brain. +1 to you!
The Korean history is more ancient than japanese. The Word Samurai came from korean word samurang. The korean sword is more light and thin than katana.
Korean History is definitely more ancient than Japanese, but the word Samurai did not come from the word Samurang. Don't believe the revisionist lies and propaganda. Samurai was a warrior class created exclusively in Japan by Japanese. Korea had their own class - the Musa, who were pretty deadly themselves and had a far greater selection of skills and techniques than Japanese Samurai, and they defeated more powerful enemies than the Japanese Samurai. Korean Musa even had superior armor.
Not one single document has been produced indicating the existence of Samurang, and not one shred of evidence has been shown that they existed. Heck, the word Samurang didn't even start getting tossed around until the 20th/21st century. Somebody took a false etymology and created an entire false history with it in an attempt to foster national pride. *sigh* more fairy tales from the land that I love, lol.
Samurang is merely a myth created by the WHGF. Our Korea had many great warriors, many that were superior to Japanese Samurai, but there was no such thing as Samurang.
@hueruwakamechan once again i didnt see korea raped by the west now did i stop living on past glory and live in today oh wait japan=no military, giant national dept and only country in the world to be nuked i know why u insult korea now(jealously)hehehehe o god im mean and i love every minute of it
more and more i get facsinated into Korean swordsmanship as Japanese, i was stricken with amazement seeing a Korean sword dance and this is incredible ^_^ thank for for posting the video.
I don't think you realize how difficult it is to cut one of those mats correctly. A sword like this or a katana is not made for chopping, that man is literally slicing through it, and slicing through requires a lot of practice. Here's what I mean, get a big hunk of meat and try chopping it, the try to cut it. A sword art like that is the opposite of using an axe :D
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武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea
【 It is the official document at Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century 】
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting.
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朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)…
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There was no swordman in our country at all”...
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
There has not been descendent any swordplay from ancient time in our country...
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enushisama 7 months ago
In addition he is using Japanese sword! Oh my god.....and he say it`s Korean original sword? Don`t tell a lie and recognize your own true history...
charly345mstl 8 months ago
Why Korean tells lie a lot?
The father of Kumdo recognized that he copied Japanese Kendo and made Kumdo in 80`s.....
charly345mstl 8 months ago
Korean started using metal and martial arts, even before any kingdom existed in island called japan. And when there was japan, it was formed by Korean Baekjae kingdom which escaped to island called japan when they lost the war w/ Korean Silla Kingdom.
Kumdo---Kendo
Hapido---Aikido
Tangsodo---Karate
Going on forever...
klee4 1 year ago
ummm......nice outfit
"keep practicing, Joey"
--The Beverly Hills Ninja
thedaryl 2 years ago
This is how huns conquered their enemies when sword/archery was the main weaponry in the past. Hard to understand isn't it...
"Romans will not longer receive tax but will pay tax to Hun new ruler of what use to be Roman empire" --- Mighty Roman Emperor.
klee4 1 year ago
to be fair, this sort of forms is more influenced by the 1767 martial arts manual the nuyedobotongji, which is essentially koreas weapons manual from then, however,m that same book states on the first page that in the joseon dynasty the only military based martial art that was widely practiced was archery.
and this leads on to essentially say that, after the imjin war (15th,cen) korea realised it weas seriously lacking, and combined chinese and japanese arts to defend korea. mostly chinese
elgostine 2 years ago
Don;t forget Korean Navy of 1st armor war ship that completely cut the japan's supply line; this is automatic victory. Also Imjin war was to use Korea to invade mainland Asia, and Koreans made sure that was not going to be easy. Ming Dynasty allied with Korean Joseon Dynasty. Joseon won the war, but Ming later was destroy by Khitan Kingdoms; but Joseon helped Ming but Ming could not lead the war. Joseon fought the Khitan which accepted piece treaty with Joseon.
klee4 1 year ago
@klee4 yeah, theres DEFINATELY no dispute that the imjin was almost the peleponnesian war all over again, korea = athens, japan= sparta, japans combined muskets that followed the subsequent rapid advance of samurai to new positions to keep up the momentum. and it worked like a charm
that said, as the battle of the turtle ship illustrates, japan really should have stuck to land battles wherever possible. they had nearly NO artillery, a grave mistake in my opinion,
elgostine 1 year ago
and mostly this was bcause they simply wanted to get in amongst it,
the hwacha was apparently VERY devestating in the later stages of the war, when the koreans wisened up to use artillery to attack formations in field engagements
elgostine 1 year ago
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oirarnoknutgib 2 years ago
It's all BULL-SHIT-DO
anaaaaal 2 years ago
lol?
Lynwe 2 years ago
and the guy that updated this video replyed this sword style was 5000 years ago before japan started or something
monkeydood6 2 years ago
You seem to like fabricating history. People like you always make up 'ancient Korean something'. Don't be degrading yourself.
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
didnt taekwondo come before krate?
monkeydood6 2 years ago
No TaeKwondo started in 1950s.
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
This is definitly dark copy of Japanese Iaido/Battoujutsu.
Every Japanese coulture which Koreans love are somehow pronounced differently by them, and one day suddenly Koreans starts claiming it derived from ancient Korea to Japan..
These nationalistic culture theft is just degrading Koreans themselves.
Kendo(剣道) >>>Kumdo
Aikido(合気道)>>> Hapkido
Judo(柔道)>>>> Yudo
Karate(空手)>>> Tangsodo/Taekwondo
....going on forever
Jaikido1000 3 years ago
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KendoTrainer 2 years ago
your wrong!!! obviously in KOREAN the pronounce is different. kumdo is how they say kendo in korean. plus Aikido if you said it in korean it would sound wierd
like 아이키도. korean words is broken into parts thats why it will sound wierd.and karate is not taekwondo. taekwondo is another martial art the koreans made and karate is a different martial art japanese made
KendoTrainer 2 years ago
Haha, you must be young. Read documents written in hanja/kanji(Original ones), or watch photos of Taekwondo or Kumdo just 60 years ago.
It must be hard for you to admit the fact, but the fact cant be changed even if you cry 'You are wrong'.
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
Your right i may be young but im not stupid. im not stuborn either so i agree the "fact". but i dont agree about the koreans changeing karate changeing to taekwondo.
KendoTrainer 2 years ago
You doesn't sound stupid. You are just not informed of the facts even master Choi confessed. Taekwondo was identical to Karate 60 years ago.
Taekwondo itself looks cool, but I'm fed up with those made-up origins of Korean martial arts. Korean nationalistic culture theft is just degrading Koreans. Japan Korea
Kendo(剣道) >>>Kumdo
Aikido(合気道)>>Hapkido
Judo(柔道)>> Yudo
Karate(空手)> Tangsodo/Taekwondo
Iaido/Battoujutsu >This shitty sword skill (new)
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
taekwondo, as the name implies is the use of the heel and foot, where as karate is mostly fist and arms.
ShinGan1 2 years ago
I do respect the korean art of fighting, but i admire the japanese.
henkihareid 3 years ago
but the korean one is cool to right?
KendoTrainer 3 years ago
이 조선세법 베기법은 5000천년전 단군시대에 나오는 검법입니다..즉 일본이 생기기전에 있었던 검법이고 중국의 검법과는 사뭇 달라 그들이 부러워할 정도였고 실전성에 있어 뛰어나다고 하겠습니다..
musa7008 3 years ago
question.
Choson Sword art is 5000 years old?
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So far.. I've read Kuksoolwon, Haidong Gumdo, Tae Kwon do.. all official websites including hwarang-do claim lineage of Korean sword fighting...
What "style" of sword is this video's style?
benelliman 3 years ago
My 2 cents are as follows--who cares who invernted it , who applies it better? Obviously the Koreans dominate the TKD associations and such. A white man invented basketball but white men do not dominate it. So that is how I look at it. Kenyans did not invent the Olympic track and filed distance trials , but they dominate it. Who cares who stole it, invented it. Who will win in the moment is all that counts. If you pour sweat in the dojo/dojang the less you bleed on the filed of battle..
JARCHIE1973 3 years ago
true dat.
show proof and we shall believe.
word :D
benelliman 3 years ago 2
It's Korean fake cluture of Japan.
Musa is Japanese Musya(=Samurai).
Kumdo is Japanese Kendo.
Korean please stop fabricating it.
hueruwakamechan 3 years ago 7
samurang = samurai
search jingum on gogle and you will see the korean sword! originaly japanese :[ !
henkihareid 3 years ago
어떻게 사무랑이 사무라이냐...일본과 우리의 검법을 석지마라...
musa7008 3 years ago
my korean isnt that good because i lived in america for long time but im korean. 사무랑 이 머애요. 사무라이는 일본 식인데 사무랑은 머애요? 그리 고 조선세법 은 거정, 과좌,과우... 12 가지 가 잇 잔아요. 근대 이비디오처럼 진검 갓고 머짤으고 있을 때는 다른 조선세법 을 쓰 나요?
KendoTrainer 3 years ago
@henkihareid ur point?
RazlerofEsthar 1 year ago
You're retarded. Both Mu in Korean and Bu in Japanese are of the SAME KANJI Characters from China. Just because they share the same characters doesn't mean they're from one country. So if I write APPLE in Chinese, does that mean all apples came from China? If I wrote "Elite-class" in Japanese, does that mean Korean elite class written in the Same kanji mean that ALL Korea elites are from Japan? NO! you're one idiot.
benelliman 3 years ago
haha Apple :) i got a good laugh :P
henkihareid 3 years ago
We Japanese call Samurai（侍） as Bushi(武士) or Musha（武者）. But the problem is not the pronounciation of Kanji.
There were Samurai in Japan who use Kenjutsu（剣術） / Iaijutsu（居合術） / Battoujutu（抜刀術）, In Meiji era those skills were sophisticated from 'skill of killing' to 'study of manners and spilits through training' and came to be called Kendo（剣道) / Iaido(居合道).
Were there Musa in Korea who use Iaido style of sword skill? NO RECORD!
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
Please read the rest of my comments before you respond to me that way.
You must have me mistaken for a nationalist.
benelliman 2 years ago
and finally. I have nothing against japanese people or their culture. it's unique and awesome. But dood, Korea and Japan are a lot closer to each other than Japan or Taiwan, and Japan or China. I believe when it comes to influence, these two countries influenced each other more than you think. There are similarities in styles, why? Adaptation. Japan invaded korea how many times? pirates raided korean shores how many times? of course they're going to learn something from a fight, right?
benelliman 3 years ago
You are mostly right. Japan and Korea certainly do have closer ties than anyone wants to admit. In fact, a lot of "Japanese" culture came from Korean soil. However, Korean martial arts have had a more chinese flavor to them seeing as how the two nations were neighbors and had decent relations. Yes, Henki - the katana did come from the Korean Gum. Koreans and Chinese are the ones who taught Japan how to make swords in the first place. Another example of "Japanese" culture having foreign roots.
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago
Hey, what's up :-)? I wouldn't call it Korean fake culture of Japan, however, we are all too aware of Korea stealing another country's culture, making superficial changes to it, then trying to claim that they invented it and it was theirs from the start. It is a shameful practice, but what would you expect from a country that had most of its culture wiped out? Most Korean sword styles are modern variations of Japanese swordsmanship. They are Korean, but they do not have ties to Korea's past.
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago
true that. Korean nationalism/nationalistic history is about as fake as any other country's nationalistic history. Anyways, pointless arguing online, but yes, a lot of influences goes both ways from Korea to Japan, and Japan to Korea. Take TKD. General Choi Hong Hi learned from who? Gichin Funakoshi. Hence, TKD's main ingredient isn't Tae Kyun, but Japanese (China Southern White Crane) Okinawan Karate.
benelliman 3 years ago 4
Yes, I agree. Every country loves to embellish their culture and history to make them look more appealing. It is nice to see someone who doesn't blindly buy the Tae Kyun story - there is hope, lol. The arguing is definitely pointless, imho. These cultures are available to all of us, so we should we enjoy them all rather than putting them against each other. Nice to discuss things with a youtuber who has a brain. +1 to you!
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago 5
The Korean history is more ancient than japanese. The Word Samurai came from korean word samurang. The korean sword is more light and thin than katana.
TheBeatBoy1 3 years ago
Korean History is definitely more ancient than Japanese, but the word Samurai did not come from the word Samurang. Don't believe the revisionist lies and propaganda. Samurai was a warrior class created exclusively in Japan by Japanese. Korea had their own class - the Musa, who were pretty deadly themselves and had a far greater selection of skills and techniques than Japanese Samurai, and they defeated more powerful enemies than the Japanese Samurai. Korean Musa even had superior armor.
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago 3
Not one single document has been produced indicating the existence of Samurang, and not one shred of evidence has been shown that they existed. Heck, the word Samurang didn't even start getting tossed around until the 20th/21st century. Somebody took a false etymology and created an entire false history with it in an attempt to foster national pride. *sigh* more fairy tales from the land that I love, lol.
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago 3
Samurang is merely a myth created by the WHGF. Our Korea had many great warriors, many that were superior to Japanese Samurai, but there was no such thing as Samurang.
Spiritmushroom 3 years ago 11
it is not a myth. its true. you would know if you were in korea.
KendoTrainer 3 years ago
yes there is a document. you would know if you were in korea like me. and it is true there is a samurang
KendoTrainer 3 years ago
How laughable. Your 'Korea' exists only in the fantasy video game.
But I'm curious who is the most famous 'samurang'?? lol
Jaikido1000 2 years ago
there the same boy...just pronounced differently.
khk0510 3 years ago
웃기고 있네..조선세법이면 5000년전의 검법이다..일본이 생기기도전에 있었던 검법이다 말이다...이쪽바리야..ㅋㅋㅋ
musa7008 3 years ago
@hueruwakamechan once again i didnt see korea raped by the west now did i stop living on past glory and live in today oh wait japan=no military, giant national dept and only country in the world to be nuked i know why u insult korea now(jealously)hehehehe o god im mean and i love every minute of it
RazlerofEsthar 1 year ago
more and more i get facsinated into Korean swordsmanship as Japanese, i was stricken with amazement seeing a Korean sword dance and this is incredible ^_^ thank for for posting the video.
SheepMasterTojo 3 years ago
Aaaa, someone please tell where to get hands on the music, its name/ Title or such...! TRULY inspirational..! Impressive techniques also.
Misantroff 3 years ago
rubish any 1 can do dat lol
abbysal3 4 years ago
I don't think you realize how difficult it is to cut one of those mats correctly. A sword like this or a katana is not made for chopping, that man is literally slicing through it, and slicing through requires a lot of practice. Here's what I mean, get a big hunk of meat and try chopping it, the try to cut it. A sword art like that is the opposite of using an axe :D
666stringnublet 3 years ago
idiot.
when a master makes something hard look easy, along comes a dumb idiot and say
'rubbish, any1 can do dat.lol'
cunt!
chasong 3 years ago
maybe a bit wrongly formulated comment! x]
Khaztarax 4 years ago
awesome skills, I'll surely take some of them to my own. :)
Khaztarax 4 years ago