Joe Jackson Discusses Family Legacy with Smokey Fontaine

[hollygirl1975]

How come every video I look at I see pabankhead1 has some stupid comment on it as if she's got a brain. This dumb bitch don't know the difference between the bible and the yellow pages. She thinks that we should all feel sorry for her because her father was raped by Jeffery Dalmer while she watched. She's the bitch in the video screaming " I hate u Jeffery I hate u"! I don't understand why u hate the man who pull an end to u being molested by ur father. Look bitch quit acting like people give a

[4biddenflava]

WE need to still respect this man ........Joe is still Michael's father and i meet joe this year in Gary In.@ 2300 jackson the 28th and 29th of Aug and he was really a nice person . One thing i can say that Joe was every down to earth and he did love Michael.....GOD BLESS THE WHOLE JACKSON FAMILY. i know this man hurts for his son we just don't get to see it.......believe me JOE are hurting just like MJ fans are......LORD help us all get through....we lost the best entertainer in the world MJ.

[actuary33]

@4biddenflava finally the voice of reason...everyones always bitching about joes diciplinary tactics..thats the way raised their kids back then...my pop did that but thats all he knew but it made us stronger..Joes the reason the Jackson 5 are what they are...without him they'd still be playing in the living room...agreed?

[CarlaMills]

Good Job Smokey !!!

The Mills Connection Show.

[Boogeyyyman]

There is even a rumor that joseph has kicked one time michael in his testicle and joseph shouted to michael you dont need your eggs cause you are not a man. Because of this situation michael got impotent. Michael hated his father so much because he cant make children. I am not sure if this rumor is true. But i believe in this because Joe Jackson was always hard to michael i think this could be true. But nobody knows if its true.

[RazaqIshola]

I know he use to put oil all over his kids bodies before he beat them so it hurt more.......terrible. I doubt he has any regrets.

[zyruemusic]

HEARSAY!!!! U wasn't in the room were U? LMAO!!!

[RazaqIshola]

Don't reply your bullshit to me 'cause you got no friends to hang out with, no place to go and no girls to fuck.

[zyruemusic]

As long a CRACK is on the block there's always places to go and women to fuck...So stop HATIN on JOE....MARK-ASS BITCH

[RazaqIshola]

Well u say crack's on the block and im sorry to hear that, ur obviously one of those people who live in a fucked up area and try and act like a gangster because of it. And as far as the hatin goes u can shut your mouth. Joe Jacksons a prick. U dont think so? Go fuckin marry him then, bitch.

[zyruemusic]

So U feel sorry about the fact Crack is on the block? What about Walgreens ? Are U sad about them poisoning the community with their drugs? NO!!! Of Course not!!! Because U are A BRAINWASHED NIGGER!!! U follow ANYTHING MASSA...I mean the MEDIA tells U not realizing if CRACK is on the block black folks didn't bring it in nor are they the consumers...just like Gangsta rap...its not the hood that purchases 80% of it...ITS WHITE BOYS!!!

[pabankhead1]

zyruemusic

Why are you here on this site with Bullshit you CRAZY FUCkER!! You ATHEIST ignorant Moron.....Go to another site trying to vent your rage....No one want to hear your shit!! If you don't like Gangster rap don't listen to it! You are a fuckin Asshole!!

So it's none of your business who buys Music....If you don't like it then don't buy it you INSANE fucker!!

GET YOUR ASS OUTTA HERE

REDNECK ATHEIST ASSHOLE!!

[zyruemusic]

Obviously U have NEVER went to our page FAGGOT!!! U should have checked us out before U spoke....NOW U LOOK LIKE A FOOL!!!! Next time...make sure U put the horse before cart not the cart before the horse....U must be a NIGGER because its TYPICAL of my people NOT to do research before they talk...especially the EDUCATED ones...LMAO!!!

[pabankhead1]

@zyruemusic ATHEIST Assshole!!

What is a Nigger.....You must be talking about those REDNECK ATHEIST is what you meant to say....You RETARD!! So you want to be Better then someone else you NARCISSISTIC fucker...You know narcissism is a MENTAL ILLNESS and Pride comes before a fall!! Stupid Ass fucker!! You are the one who just got Educated or should I say edumatcation? Disrespectfrul Fucker!!

[zyruemusic]

A NIGGER definitely is NOT a PECKERWOOD CRACKER like yourself muthafucka!!!  U so GOD DAMN smart PROFFESSOR and U don't know what the word NIGGER means CRACKER? Well let me give U a lesson CRACKER!!! NIGGER is a word a PECKERWOOD CRACKER made up to identify my beautiful AFRICAN captives to AMERICAN slavery..So the way he tried to dihearten them was through that NIGGER word and today captive slaves are referred to as NIGGER. So a NIGGER for your future knowledge according to CRACKERS is BLACK!

[youvandal411vm]

Wow watch the boondocks to much?

[zyruemusic]

LOL!!! Obviously U are one of those BRAINWASHED SLAVES which some call a HOUSE NIGGER!!! or should I call U a bed warmer since U LOVE sucking WHITEBOY DICKS!!!

[pabankhead1]

@zyruemusic ATHEIST ASSHOLE!!

Im neither That's why I asked?? You need to be on some type of Medication...Are you stressed out or just Retarded? I am a Black Female so why are you Arguing with me Im not your ENEMY!!!

So do you still FEEL the same way.....Because I thought you were WHITE? Sorry Brother....That's why I asked what is a Nigger?

Later!!

[zyruemusic]

I LOVE MY SISTAS!!! But U are TYPICAL of what the average Sista is...OVERLY EMOTIONAL!!! This is one reason why they are mad at Joe instead of RECOGNIZING he was a GREAT FATHER!!! These EMOTIONS are also the main reason the blacks in America are in a demise because they raised children FORGETTING they are NIGGERS in America since they are so INDEPENDANT!!! So these so-called independant women now have sons that HATE THEM and have NO RESPECT because they NEEDED a JOE Jackson in they life

[zyruemusic]

Its all Blues to me FAM!!! Rock is 65% of total music business pie around the world meaning Rock gets paid the most out of ALL GENRES WORLDWIDE...Yet U can't talk to black people to encourage them in this international money maker because they become EMOTIONALLY CHARGED and don't want to hear the PLAIN TRUTH!! So I try to open my FAMILIES mind to other possiblities of music which includes COUNTRY and Bluegrass...BUT THEY DON'T HEAR ME!!! Joe Jackson is my inspiration for my band NIGGYS MILK

[pabankhead1]

@zyruemusic

Yeah Alright then!! Niggys Milk what?

Right I hear you dog!!! But No Im not with that Shit maybe you like it but not me!! SORRY!!

[zyruemusic]

LMAO!!! Its all good though however U need to OPEN YOUR MIND because ROCK is your music..ITS ALL BLUES!!! The ONLY TRUE ART FORM in America is the BLUES!!! She is the MAMA of JAZZ,REGGAE,ROCK,R&B,BLUEGRASS­,HIP-HOP,FUNK,COUNTRY,RAP or any other music thats American in origin yet we as a people want to REJECT this fact...100 yrs ago the best guitarists in America were BLACK PEOPLE...Robert Johnson and Son House are the examples all the way up to JIMI Hendrix...WE HATE US!!! BOTTOM LINE!!

[zyruemusic]

...yet according to your VOODOO intellect...I NEED MEDICATION because I WILL expose the TRUTH? SISTA U are the problem with black America because U CHOOSE to be BLINDED by those that HATE U,YOUR PEOPLE,and your very existance....WHAT A WASTE!!!

[pabankhead1]

@zyruemusic

Nah Brother everyone has a Different style you know? I hate that you're so upset about them but what does the GOOD BOOK say about them....So I don't worry about them.....You know what I do reach one teach one that's what I do.....So No if you consider that a waste then I don't know what to say~!!! What are you doing to help? If you Read my Post on Joe Jackson I congradulated He and His Wife for the rearing of THE JACKSON FIVE!! So don't disrespect me on something we both misread!

[pabankhead1]

zyru Whoever you are From GAYTOWN Australia!!

WHATEVER DUDE!! TWISTED FUCK!!

[zyruemusic]

Did I CHECKMATE U on TRUTH!!! U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!! LMAO!!!!

[pabankhead1]

Zyru ATHEIST from GAYTOWN AUSTRALIA!!

Hell no you didnt checkmate me or even came close! HAHAHHA...why would I let an Ignorant fuck like you checkmate me!!

No way no how.....Im not sure what TRUTH you ATHEIST are use too...Maybe that TALKIN DOG again!! hahahhahhah....

Did you take your MEDICATION today or you off of it!! That might explain your reasoning!! WHATEVER !! No I will not Laugh you are a CRAZY IDIOT foreal yeah.

[zyruemusic]

YEAH PUNK!!! I CHECKMATED U FAG!!! Just like JOE JACKSON WAS an EXCELLENT FATHER!!!! SO FUCK U ,YO MAMA,and the DOG THAT FUCKED HER to bring your HALF-BREED -ASS into this world REDNECK CRACKER!!!! Medication is for those that have a sickness like WHITE SUPREMACY!!! That U CRACKER!!! Look in the mirror...LEPEROUS CRACKER!!! I WILL BANG ON MY ENEMY DAILY!!! NO PEACE MUTHAFUCKA ON A CRACKER...NO PEACE!!!

[pabankhead1]

Zyru ATHEIST Retard From GAYTOWN AUSTRALIA!!

Why are you even on this site? Arent you suppose to be on a KENNY ROGERS site because FRANKLY you know neither one of us.....So get a life you fuckin Pathetic Asshole!!

Well yeah no peace....Go Take your Medication please....GET LOST!! Retard...I don't agree with you and never have so stop pretending to be something you're not!!

FUCK YOU & FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

[zyruemusic]

@pabankhead1 And further more its obvious U can't recognize ghetto genius...the PUBLIC SCHOOL DID!! And they wanted to try and use and harness the gift YAH gave to me...since I know they would put me under the jail if I catch U in the streets SLIPPIN so I would rather open up this can of VERBAL whip -ass and unleash it on U-TUBE on PUSSIES like yourself...and guess what! I ENJOY EVERY SECOND OF IT!!! 30 STARS FOR JOE JACKSON! HE WAS A GREAT FATHER!! HE MADE MISTAKES BUT LOOK AT THE OUTCOME!

[PrinceParisBlanket19]

@zyruemusic joe jackson might hav been an excellent father but nevertheless he beat his children.

does that sound like an "excellent father?"

i didnt think so.

[Boogeyyyman]

I would never treat my son or daughter like joseph jackson have treaten his children...If he cant live with 9 children he should have better prevent. I know that a life with 9 children is hard but i would never let it come to this. A good father loves his children even they are not successful..Michael was most of the time successful but when there was a time when michael was not successful his father told him you are not my son you arent a jackson

[zyruemusic]

If U was raised in slavery and was made to breed like a horse then have your children sold or separated to another plantation U wouldn't be talking like that....Joe is from ARKANSAS!! Have U ever been to that place? REDNECK STRING YO ASS UP state.... And this is where Joe was raised..he wasn't raised to tell the truth after he cut down the cherry tree like George Punk-Ass Washington because he would be strung up before night because he was a NIGGER!!! THINK!!!

[Boogeyyyman]

pah i have my opinion about Joe Jackson..and i think he is a piece of shit...You have your opinion and i've got mine .He was a bad father in my opinion a father isnt only good if he makes the family rich their are other things that makes a human to a good father like giving love to his children.. when the children need a break from show buisiness..a good father should let them have one..Joe Jackson always told michael when michael was down.you arent a Jackson,you arent a man you are shit

[pabankhead1]

Boodgey Man!!

Opinions are like Assholes everyone has one!! Before you Judge You need to look deep inside your own soul before commenting on someone elses life in a NEGATIVE SENSE no one wants to hear NEGATIVE stuff......So what's your problem? You don't even know this man...You must be a White person!! No one else in the Family think that he's so BAD!! Like Children we rebel against something we don't understand!

Someone was out to DESTROY the JACKSONS through Michael and couldnt do it!!!

[pabankhead1]

JOE JACKSON WAS A GREAT FATHER!

No one did it like Joseph Jackson like he said none of his sons have ever been Arrested or been in Prison.....So before U make a statement about Joe Jackson maybe have 9 kids then talk...... The RECORD BUSINESS are full of Snakes... Joseph Jackson knows the BUSINESS he made his family MULTI-MILLIONAIRES and said that no one is above the FAMILY and he meant it!! He wanted his family to stay down to earth...Joe Jackson is a man and other men CHEAT! So....

[pinkskyies]

Joseph took from his family so his outside chid can have. He spolied his outside child gave her the world. He didn't show any type of appreciation to his other kids. He never hugged them and sayed I love you to them. He forgot to be a father to them when the money came in. THE KIDS made the money. Without those kids, where would Joseph be? katherine gave birth to them. What kinda of father make fun of his own kids? Joseph was mentally absive to his own flesh and blood.

[Googlegirl54]

I don't NEED to be there...I love Michael..and I believe him. And I also agree with sunspotjones ..he shouldn't be jumping on any press ordeal that will have him. Why didn't he when Michael was alive. Why didn't he jump out and say Michael was lying or exaggerating then? Why? Because he wasn't.

[Googlegirl54]

Nobody cares about YOU or YOUR Father.If it wasn't for your kids no one would even know you. There is NO legacy tied to you! The ONLY legacy starts with KATHERINE AND HER KIDS.That's right! Remember,you wanted them to call you Joe NOT DAD? You were a flop! they didn't get talent from YOU!! fact is alot of kids that are beaten and deprived of their childhood etc.grow up to BE CRIMINALS. KATHERINE IS THE ONE WHO SAVED THEM FROM BEING ON THE STREETS

WITH HER LOVE ! She gets the credit NOT YOU!!

[GTnumber1]

Why don't you put a lid on it..YOU weren't there..YOU don't know the details of what actually went on in that family..It's judgemental people like that cause divisions in this world with your selfish, hasty, judgemental opinions. MYOB.

[sunspotjones]

umm am i the only one that noticed he rambled about something no one even asked. this guy should not be making press comments and other things about michael because hes completely ridiculous and no michael did not forgive his dad. its obvious in the will he wasnt cool with him. joe is nuts and money hungry. not only that but he looks like an old worn out black clown with no makeup on.

[flYdANCEchiCK]

michael jackson said he forgave his father for want he had done so if he could forgive him so should everyone esle michael would be hurt if he read some of the comments you guys were saying about his father michael still loved his father much and you should respect that

[xxkasperxx]

He may have been way too hard on his kids but then again there'd be no "Jacksons" otherwise.

[crayzmoe]

why in the hell does it look like he does his eyebrow this man is too old to be doing that. and his facial expression always makes him look suprosed

[MsCuriousCat]

ملك البوب مايكل جاكسون -- الشروق 28 أغسطس 1958 غروب 23 يونيو 2009. الآن يجب عليك امتاع الجمهور أكبر ، كنت قد فعلت لكم مهمة على الأرض الآن لديك مهمة جديدة في السماء التي ستكون أكثر فائدة. معركة الخير على الشر هنا على الأرض قد انتهت ، وخاض المعركة جيدة والحمد لله كان المدرب الخاص بك.

[dukenukem4lifeyo123]

what the hell does that say

[tantalisingmama]

giv him a call and ask him

[septembersecond2009]

9/2/09

[Funnyrandomgirl]

my older bro started screaming

[BonaDun]

it means you're superior in some way... lol

[MsCuriousCat]

Joes heart is broken, this old man is hurting inside so deep and I believe if MJ would've let him in his life MJ would be here with us....Im just saying...LOVE and PEACE!

[NileyLuffer10100705]

i know joe pushed his childeren i guess thats good kinda but he was to strict they were kids! plus he pushed Michael so hard that he wanted everything perfect like when his father said things about how ugly his face was ugly(when michael was a tenager) Michael did what he did to his face becauseof his father im telling you it makes alot of sense if you watched life with michael jackson he was talking about it

[wavymorenoayestar]

He cut Joe some slacks. He may not have been the model father, but he loved his children. And Michael said it himself several times that if he could do it again, he wouldn't change a thing. His father pushed him because he saw him as his golden child and wanted to make sure that he reached his full potential. So lay off Joe, if he had gone easy on Michael, we would not have been blessed with the perfectionist that MJ was.

[mecookiemonster1971]

You're one of the few on here talking sense. Of course, he loved his children and wanted the best for them. I think he was hard because he had a lot fear that "if I don't stay on them this whole dream could fall apart." And there are lot of temptations out there... and he didn't want his children to fall into those traps.

[1802graceave]

why is the world always in the jacksons personal business anyway.? Its not like they really cared about michael..They still won't leave him alone ....Now they want to mess with the rest of the jacksons...

[ciarafan]

true that

everyone was tellin lies bout mj now evberyone wants to get the truth when michael was tryin to tell u the truth

[SpirytSista]

stop attacking Joe Jackson. MJ wouldn't like you to do that. MJ said himself that he loved his father.

[0008DEVA]

Can`t understand, that anybody wants to speak with this very evil man. Who ever has been eyes, look in this demon face. He say that for the extra money. Omer looks like many other guys in Norway and the Near East. That isn`t particular. Omer has other ears ( very special for the genetics) and himself deny it. What happend? Omer has no reason to deny that all. On the contrary!!! Can anybody stop the mouth from this demon?? What did the mother said to her husband?? Why did she allow these lies?

[zyruemusic]

JOE JACKSON IS NOT A DEMON!!! GET YOUR MIND RIGHT!!! Joe raised 10 children in a WHITE SUPREMICIST country...Not one of his boys ever went to prison and not one of his girls are crack-head WHORES...If anything you should be thanking JOE for not raising some dope dealers,murderers,or whatever which is so prevalent in the black community..You should be kissing his toes...DEVA!! STOP HATIN!!

[1802graceave]

wow i agree with you 100 percent ... that was real what you said.....

[zyruemusic]

Thanks Sista!! DEVA should be ashamed of herself for DRINKING THE KOOL-AID of how media tries to DEMONIZE JOE!! However I overstand..shes GERMAN!! Because of him careing so much about his family he did the RIGHT thing considering life in a WHITE SUPREMICIST system of the U.S. I also give an EXTRA BIG GIGANTIC shout out to Mother Jackson for standing by JOE!!! if more sistas would stand by their men I am sure we would have more JACKSON families in this RACIST system. YAH BLESS!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

But one of em was a porn star... Yall forget about LaToya?

There's a reason Michael feared this man. Not cause he got spanked...

He was beaten. No one deserves that...

[zyruemusic]

Well I dont what you are but in the ghetto all children got they asses beat!! That was STATUS QUO!!! Some with extention cords some with metal hangars,some with belts,some with switches..I think it came from being in a WHITE SUPREMIST system.Joe had it passed down from the slave master who was the first to beat on a black for CONTROL..But I dont hear you protesting this.Lets talk about how WHITEBOYS used to RAPE Black women and they couldnt tell NO ONE..What about that? REPARATIONS!! PAY JOE!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Michaels mom was raised in the ghetto. Did she beat Michael? Nope...

You want me to thank Joe?

ok thank you Joe for beating Michael till he cried and his ego was torn. Thank you Joe for makin Michael think he was sooo ugly that he had to go change his features, when Michael was already handsome to begin with... Thank you Joe for taking Michael's childhood away. I sincerely thank Joe for being such an influence in Michael's life...

[zyruemusic]

I feel you to the fullest however Joe probably hates himself too...which he learned from being in a WHITE SUPREMIST system that taught ALL BLACK people to hate themselves just because they are NIGGERS!! There are MILLIONS of NIGGERS that HATE themselves because this is what they learned in CHURCH and PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!! I never knew I was a NIGGER until I hit the 1st grade..and I have been a NIGGER every since.JOE DIDNT take away Micheals childhood...REDNECK CRACKERS did that!!! LOL!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Look I understand what you're saying, and to be honest you're right if it wasn't for Joe, Michael wouldn't have been the great person he was. I think I was just caught up in rage when thinking of how much Joe hurt Michael. But facts is Michael loved Joe. He just didn't LIKE Joe. Sorry for gettin outtah hand. I was being biast and not lookin at the whole picture. I guess you could say "blinded by rage" huh?

[zyruemusic]

Part of your bias is also because of how the media mind-manipulates the public at hand which not your fault but now that you are aware you should come against it whenever you see its ugly head rise up which is why I dont use the N-word.I straight call it NIGGER because the N word is the 14th letter of the alphabet which is more mind manipulation to take away from the NEGATIVE history of that word NIGGER upon my beautiful African people that built this GREAT country U.S.A. on their very backs.

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Yeah I guess, but I was also turned off to the idea of Joe, because Michael DOES say that Joe beat him and his siblings. There's a reason he didn't leave Joe anything.

I mean of course Michael loves Joe, but to a point. And that's fact.

[zyruemusic]

Maybe he did leave Joe something. Maybe because of how the media attacked JOE being the GREAT father he was by putting his family on top of the music world Micheal recognized and left it to Jermaine,Tito,Jackie,Marlon to secretly give it to JOE. Every year Micheal had JOE JACKSON day and gave JOE all kinds of stuff..one year he and Janet bought JOE a beatiful fishing boat because JOE loves to fish...like me...Shit I would go fishing with JOE...What about you?

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Uhhh I wouldn't wanna be chillin with Joe honestly. Michael loves Joe and all, but he DID fire Joe... Remember? There's also a reason why MJ said that he thought Quincey was his REAL father. I mean not biologicly. But Michael felt that Quincey was his dad, so he says... Michael never called Joe his dad, he called him Joe. Not by choice, but because Joe wanted to be Joe...

[zyruemusic]

LOL!!! JOE is GANSTA!!! So I overstand where he is coming from. JOE taught his children NOT to call him DAD but call him JOE and Kathern mother..I dont know what that was about but the end results was the whole family is RICH!! WHITE SUPREMACY was a MUTHAFUCKA and its effects will carry probably for another 500 yrs. And this is just one example of it.You should NOT be ANGRY not so much at JOE because he overstood JIM CROW and was on the mind set of this but at the REDNECK CRACKERS!! PEACE!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

True, maybe it's just me. I just don't agree with the way he does things. Maybe that's why my children aren't stars huh?

There is good in Joe there's alot of good ppl don't see. He was there for Michael during the charges. And he never abandoned his family. But you have to admit the way he ran some things were a bit out of line...

[zyruemusic]

MAN!! He raised 9 children in Gary in a 2 bedroom house and worked 2 jobs on top of that to feed his family? We should all be giving JOE praises of the example of a GREAT father. Not even WHITE people with money raise their children as good as JOE did with the help Kathereen and YHWH did the Jackson family. Have you ever heard of RONNIE NEWT a pimp from the bay area? Well he did the same thing with his 3 boys called the NEWTRONS and WHITE SUPREMACY caused him to be away from his family in PRISON

[pinkskyies]

Praise for raising his family, YES. WHen he got money he forgot to be a father to those kids. He looked at them as a check. He cheated on their mother, when a partner cheats. It affect everyone. Joseph forgot about his kids needs. He slept with another women, got her pregnant. He allowed his outside child to call him DADDY and the others couldn't. How come he didn't give his other child the same treatement as the REST? Why did he take from his family so she and her mother could have?

[zyruemusic]

WOW!!! I don't have the answers to those allegations and I won't sit back and uphold joe for his wrong doings if that is true...however unless U are directly connected to the family all U got is HEARSAY!!We don't truely know the arrangement Mother and joe had....They from down south and at that time a white man could have any black woman he wanted...even if she was married...which is reason why today black women have no respect for black men which is all tied to slavery

[pinkskyies]

The insider Randy wrote in his book how Joseph allowed his outside child to call him Daddy and the others couldn't. Micheal said his self in tapes with Glenda. He didn't understand how Joseph could give his outside child love and could do the rest for them. The kids made the Jackson name famous. If it wasn't for Katheirne it wouldn't be no Jacksons. Joseph forgot to be a father to those kids when the money came. He forgot they were chrildren and not a pay check.

[RazaqIshola]

You seem to believe alot of swearing in ur reply's justify's UR reasons for replying to me. Now how do u go from submitting a bullshit reply about my comment to lecturing me about who brings drugs into the community? Why have u completely changed the subject? And I'm the stupid one? Don't lecture me like im the one watching u on stage as u kick back some knowledge. ur a fucking idiot who has nothing better to do but to reply back bullshit. Why the fuck u mentioning walgreens? I dont give a fuck!

[pabankhead1]

MAYBE?

I wasnt there and neither were YOU!! Look where they are NOW!! In the BIBLE IT says: HONOR YOUR MOTHER & FATHER says the LORD!!

Or are you a ATHEIST and don't know what the GOOD BOOK Says! I love and RESPECT JOESPH AND CATHERINE JACKSON for a Good job in raising their children none are in PRISON or Trouble!!

GREAT JOB TO THE BOTH of THEN.....And when Michael Jackson was in that Trouble with the children JOSEPH JACKSON was front and Center...So Im not sure Whatcha talking about?

[pinkskyies]

A father can be present. That doesn't mean he was a father. Micheal said in his tape with Glenda. How Joseph cheated on their mother. Any good father would never cheat on their wife. He let his other child call him dad,and the others call him Joseph.

[pabankhead1]

Pinkskyies

That's their thing!

Maybe the kids were DISRESPECTFUL have you ever thought of that? They are Jehovah Witness and Joseph wasnt a Jehovah Witness and he never was..that's a different type of RELIGION if you know anything about being a WITNESS..The Family was Raised in that Environment and Joesph chose not to Believe in that Religion!

Most men Cheat and you know it!! But he never left his children no matter what..Just like you and your Parents relationship so How can you Judge?

[zyruemusic]

And because he was away one of the twins was killed for trying to rob a liqour store in L.A. Had WHITE SUPREMACY not been in effect I believe they would have been just as famous as the Jacksons because he was guiding their career so fuckin COOL!!! Matter-of-fact when the record company tried to fuck over their contract Ronnie NEWT went up in that muthafucka with guns and grenades for his boys which is reason the have weapon detectors now. Ronnie NEWT is one of my heros because he RODE for his!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Yeah I got respect for em'. I got lots of respect for Joe.

But the person I respect the most is Katherine. She put up with alot. I think she made Michael the kind person he was.

Also I give props to her for not leaving Joe's ass when he cheated on her. That's what you call faithful! I wouldah killed Joe.

[zyruemusic]

I agree with you about Mother Jackson...But see she also experienced JIM CROW and may have seen one of her men folk in her family hung on a tree like strange fruit and overstood what it was and didnt want to see her family in that condition. And maybe she and JOE had an overstanding that when he was on the rode with the Jackson 5 he could hit other pussy as long as he didnt bring nothing back home to her.Some wives are cool like that....And YES Micheal is more like his mother.

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Ok... I'm finding it really hard to talk to you... We're on waaay oppisite sides of the fence. Katherine did not like Joe cheating on her, infact she almost left him. If it wasn't for Katherine Joe wouldn't have gotten shit from Michael and that's the truth.

And the issue of her understandin Joe's stand in cheating and her being "cool" with it... Uhhh I'm seriously at a loss for words there. She wasn't cool with it. That's for sure...

[zyruemusic]

WELL!!! I feel then if she was not cool with it she should have been with JOE every step of the way..like Louis Armstrong's wife was with him. Ray Charles BEGGED his wife to go on the rode with him yet SHE REFUSED..which cause him to have other children out of the relationship...this is the problem with relationships today because of wifes that wont be wives and they want to put it all on the men when SHE KNOWS a man NEEDS his wife for SEX and if nothing else SUPPORT especially BROTHERS!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Ok first Katherine had other children to take care of at home. Second she couldn't go on tour with them at the time. Third what kind of fuckin logic is that???

SHE KNOWS a man NEEDS his wife for SEX?

Uhhh WTF??? If anything SHE needed JOE to be there for HER!!! Joe's lucky she didn't leave him.

If she had it's a garuntee Michael would've completely turned from him...

Men need to be there for their wives! Like it says in the BIBLE!!!

Remember thou shalt NOT commit adultry???

[zyruemusic]

I hear you sista but your reasoning is distorted!! You bring the family with you if that your job to play music...I know this personally!! Just like a long-distance trucker his wife needs to be with her man...because the shoe could be on the other foot to where Marlon might not be JOES because to me he does not favor JOE. Chaka Khan broke up with her husband because he couldnt RESPECT the fact being on the road was her job.And had she left him the wolves would have came in and broke up family.

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Uhmm ok... But as you SHOULD know they couldn't bring the WHOLE family along. Infact joe didn't even want the rest of them there at the time...

I think my reasoning is fine. Joe should be faithful. Just as Katherine was. What Joe did was WRONG and inexcusable. Katherine was a good women, and shouldah never been put through what she was put through...

[zyruemusic]

It takes 2 to make a family or break a family...O.K. Which means Mother should have FORCED HER way to be with her husband on the rode even if they had to eat beans and rice...this how the MEXICANS and Asians do it when they get here even sleeping 25 to a cramped room for maybe a couple of years.Plus they are Jehovah Witnesses and they would have helped the family as well. But WHITE SUPREMACY has taught the woman to not THINK but be rebellious, selfish and spoiled rotten.end result single mom

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Ok are you serious???

Well as we all know it takes 1 bad apple to ruin the bunch. It was not Katherines mistake. It was JOE'S, he should've NEVER cheated on her. Katherine is NOT at FAULT! I'll give it to Joe for being a great leader and for making his family successful.

But him cheating is UNexcusable! NO ONE is allowed to cheat.

Society thinks that if a man cheats it's excusable men have "needs"

But if a women cheats she's a hoe?

How is that fuckin fair?

Let me tell you...

It's NOT!

[zyruemusic]

I overstand because you are a woman...you become EMOTIONAL but those Emotions are what WHITE SUPREMACY expects so now you can call 911 and tell "them" I have a gun,been in jail and sell dope...LOL!!! Now they have the description of my car and pull me over and wind up shooting me in the back... now I'm dead all because you let your EMOTIONS get the best of you.This is the TYPICAL action sistas take all because of emotions. WHITE SUPREMACY will ALWAYS keep us down because of this sorry to say.

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Ok hun I highly disagree with you. It's NOT my emotions that's takin over me. It's your insensitivity. I'm sorry, but are you saying that it's ok for men to cheat on their women?

That is where I cannot even begin to understand where you're comin from. Cheating is cheating. If I were to cheat on my man it's a garuntee I would end up dead, cause of his "emotions"

But in the end ppl would say they understand him, cause I was foolin around.

But if he cheated it's ok???

[zyruemusic]

LOL!!! Now I NEVER said it was alright to cheat on your mate because I totally disagree with adultery however I overstand how emotions can carry something thats not there...I have seen women that busted out car windows,flatten all 4 tires on her mans car and even shot at him because she thought he was messing around and they were never even married...just playing house..I think its how the woman NUTURES her man if he will mess around or not. But I NEVER said it was alright. LOL!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Well hun choose your words carefully cause you seem like you think it's ok for Joe to have cheated on her. Infact you said that Katherine should of been takin care of her man better so he doesn't cheat on her.

Well looky here sweety, although women do get over agressive with their emotions. There are also some men who have gone psycho on their women because they "thought" she was foolin around. Don't be SO quick to stereo type WOMENS emotion's when there are some men just as bad...

[zyruemusic]

LOL!!!! I have a cousin and she has 5 children. She has 4 black men wanting to marry her and these cats got CHEESE!! DO YOU HEAR ME!!! LOL!! She spit game to me and said is all in the OVERSTANDING.She NUTURES her friends.....The kids daddy?....Years Locked away!!! However my point is WHITE SUPREMACY had cause women to speak HARD to a man because he cant line their pocket.. But I cant make any excuses for JOE....He should have never messed around on Mother.Shes a GREAT woman!!! Wish I had one.

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Good, just so long as we're clear...

But you talk about all these women killin their men cause of their "emotions" huh?

What about all the men committing MURDERS cause of THEIR emotions?

There are just as many MEN if not MORE who can't control their "emotions"

They kill, hurt, and ABUSE their WOMEN cause of they're emotional instability.

But it's obvious you DON'T talk about that. Now Do you?.

What about the women who suffered cause of the EMOTIONS that MEN carry?

What about them???

[zyruemusic]

LOL!!! When 4 yr old falls and scrapes their knee...Father,brother sister friend auntie teacher...cant nobody kiss that bo-bo and make it feel better but MAMA!!!.When she kisses it... he's ALRIGHT!! So WHITE SUPREMACY stepped in and kicked the Black fathers out so MAMA and the kids could eat And the CHURCH AMBUSHED us into this way of thinking.Causing the people to be invollved in traditions of WITCH CRAFT to YHWH if you read your Old Testament right,So a CURSE has ensued our people EMOTIONS!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

Ok now I have no idea what you're goin on about... All I'm sayin is DON'T rationalize women! Because MEN do the SAME exact FUCKIN thing!!!!!

Gosh you just keep talkin about shit that's OFF topic! I'm sorry but why are you talkin about the old fuckin testament when all I'm tryna get through to you is MEN can't control their emotions EITHER!

That's ALL I'm tryna say! I don't care about YHWH!

I'm just makin a point in the fact that MEN are just as GUILTY as WOMEN! No exceptions!

[zyruemusic]

See we dont want to take responsiblity for the facts....So there it is!!!!!!MAMA raises you!!! And if MAMA does not teach her boys the TRUTH instead of working on EMOTIONS...thats all hes going to learn...what do you expect for him to pass to his woman..he learns how to treat a woman through his MOTHER..and if his mother works on hating him because of his father.How do you expect for him to treat his woman? If the mother doesnt know she should search the Bible because it teaches a man how

[zyruemusic]

,,,to treat his woman!!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

NO hun you need some real SOUL searchin! NOT everything is up to a WOMEN to do ok? I don't know where you're gettin this idiotic ideas from...

BUT it is NOT only up to a WOMEN to teach her son how to BEHAVE! Father's have responsibity too!!! THEY are the ones who SHOULD teach their SONS RIGHT FROM wrong!

MAMA may know best! But DADDY don't do SHIT! Let MAMA rest ok??

MEN SHOULD KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG! It's NOT a women's JOB to be diplomatic! It's a couple's JOB! So don't EVEN GO THERE!

[zyruemusic]

Who carries the child for 270 day? Who breasts feeds the child? Who teaches the child how to potty train?Who teaches the child manners?Who mostly changes the babies doo-doo diapers? Who has the GREATEST influence on the preasence of the CREATOR? HMMM!!!

[wurdapartyzatXP]

The parent does sweety, the parent does.

It's not ALWAY'S the mom who's around now is it? A GOOD father teaches his son manner's, a GOOD father teaches his son right from wrong, a GOOD father knows how to mold his son correctly.

But most importantly IT'S the FATHER who the son looks to for MALE advice! It's the FATHER who the son goes to for guidence.

Mama's alway's there when her baby needs TLC. But it's daddy who teaches his son how to throw a baseball. Not MAMA

[zyruemusic]

But dont forget about WHITE SUPREMACY which is to destroy the father or man 1st so how can a man teach his son how to play catch if the mother bows to the IDOL of WHTE SUPREMACY...You must think black folks are able to live like Leave it to beaver or some father knows best bullshit or even Brady Bunch fantasy...LOL!! Do you also believe in a WHITE Christmas too? LOL!!! What about the WHITE picket fence? LOL!!! How can a SLAVE teach his son how to be a man when he doesnt know himself?

[Annazayla]

I don't agree with you. But keep living, you will see. Love does not require effort..you can't make yourself love someone, it has to come naturally. Joe cheated because, he wanted too, he cheated because he is a scum bag, he cheated because, he was NOT in love with Katherine and little regard for his sons. Joe was a bad father, and husband. He should be ashamed of himself. MJ was a better man than him which is why he is so loved all over the damn world.

[zyruemusic]

Well...I agree about JOE messing around on Mother...HE WAS OUT OF POCKET!!! TOTALLY!!! Mother is a GREAT woman and JOE should have never disrespected her. A bad father? NAW!!! HARD on his children? YES....But slavery and JIM CROW has been hard on black folks!!! WHITES at that time wasnt haveing no disrespectful black man sassing back or wreckless eye-balling so JOE did all he knew to keep his sons safe. And you are right about LOVE...It has to come naturally.

[Annazayla]

As far as I know, Joe Jackson was NOT a slave--slaves didn't beat their kids. Lets just call it what it is, Joe was abusive, wanted he sons to call in "Joe" instead of "Dad" for an evil reason, and he was a cheater who produced a child out of wedlock.

[pinkskyies]

What kinda of man cheats on his wife. Have another child,show her more love then the others. What kinda of man takes from his kids and give to his mistress so they can have? He never made his other child work? He never slaved so she can have, he took ffrom his family so his mistress and outside child could have. Joseph forgot to be a father, when the money came in. Joseph never gave his kids hugs and I love you's but he gave his outside child love. I wonder why he never made her work?

[zyruemusic]

..which is why there are so many single mothers today because of their rebellious nature which stems from a WHITE SUPREMIST system telling the woman"You dont need no man" all you need is this welfare check which has cause the families to break up..same thing that happened at the garden of EDEN..which is why out of ALL mammals in YHWH's kingdom...the WOMAN...Has child bearing pains which sometimes kills the mother ordained by YHWH to NEVER let her forget her REBELLIOUS nature in the garden.

[stagefright211]

Narcasisst!

[mersinarii]

right on Mr. Jackson