Warriors - Spartan Vengeance - Part 4 / Οπλιτικό Άγημα ΚΟΡΥΒΑΝΤΕΣ

[shitheel100]

no cavalry?

[elasolezito]

@shitheel100 They had later but not back then.

[pukovnikz]

@shitheel100 no....horses are ekspensive

[888HamilkarBarkas888]

overhand useage of a spear is stupid for formation fighting, you make your long spear shorter (the only advantage of a spear is its length!), it is hard to parry (because the other end of the spear sticking out behind is a counterweight, enemies will knock aside your spear easily) and the spike on the end of the spear is a danger to your friends behind.

[kakas10000]

@888HamilkarBarkas888 The overhand is good at this formation cause you can pierce your opponent from above.Dont forget that the front rows of both parties are bending so they can push harder..So the back rows can use the overhand to pierce them from above.Also keeps the pointy back of the spear away from your comrades..

[1Laconian]

@888HamilkarBarkas888 So tell us then what is the smartest approach to the formation....? We await your educated response.

[888HamilkarBarkas888]

@1Laconian a shield wall formation using spears underarm.look at the hoplite cuirass: it was made out of leather, with metal reinforcements on belly hight - they were afraid of getting stabbed in the belly. the armpit has no armour, there is only a leather part for protecting the shoulders - they were not afraid of getting stabbed in the armpit. using a spear overarm opens the armpit and your enemies can stab you in this unprotected area. the design of their amour is quite instructive

[Saxon723]

@888HamilkarBarkas888 depending on how you use your spear over hand, the armpit is not open to much attack if done properly, with the palm facing upwards. the saxons, vikings and other north europeans used this method in their shield walls to great effect

[philhindu29]

bollocks the english had mounted archers that used longbows in 1345 the mn speaks shit!!

[stranglechord]

@philhindu29 This was 400 BC, and he didn't say "The WORLD had ever seen", He said that "SPARTA had ever seen."

[MrLantean]

@philhindu29 Using a longbow on horseback, a mounted archer can only shoot his target sideways. In horse archery, the prefered method is to shoot towards the enemy or away from them in full gallop. Using a longbow, the weapon kept poking the horse and it can get very annoyed. That's why the much shorter more compact but more powerful recurved composite bows were invented for such purpose. Using such bows, a mounted archer can shoot in any direction with ease.

[jobe5514]

No offence to the makers of this documentary, or the Spartans :D, but they did not invent running with armour, weapons and an aspis. It had been a Greek Olympic event for quite some time, also, running at the enemy was used to great effect at the much earlier Battle of Marathon by the Athenians and their Plataean allies. Apart from that, good documentary.

[MrLantean]

I disagree on Terry Schappert's comment on the composite bow. The composite bow is more powerful and achieve greater range than the English longbow. It is made by combining wood, horn and animal sinew bound together with fish glue. Horn has greater compression strength and is able to withstand more pressure than wood. This allows the bow to be shorter and more compact to be used on horseback. The longbow has to be in specific length in order to be effective and it will snaped if it is shorter.

[FcK2420]

lol his name is Aristotle Hercules!!!!!

Jesus thats amazing.

It's like being named Bonaparte Da Vinci :)

[ElvenAngel]

@FcK2420 That's Greek naming conventions for you. Personally I'm stuck with Pinelopi Phoebe. We're nuts.

[Zachbro39]

I loled @ the cmment about how spartans laughed at persian archers because they thought it was unmanly to use ranged weapons.. Thats awsome, these guys were true in your face beserkers.

[MrLantean]

@Zachbro39 Spartans believed true warriors used swords and spears to fight their enemies. Only cowards killed their enemies from a distance away. Lacking ranged weapons is one of the Spartans' weakness. Other Greek armies had peltrasts which are lightly armored soldiers armed with ranged weapons like bows, javelins and slingshots. At the Battle of Lechaeum, the Spartans was defeated by Athenian peltrasts. This was the first battle where the hoplites were defeated by the peltrasts.

[spyrosw9]

it wasnt only the spartans.a greek alliance consisting of athens sparta corinth and megara fought at the battle of plaetea.

[lomi0n]

Goodbye historical accuracy... Check on wikipedia the battles of Plataea, Thermopylae and Marathon to get a correct picture of who fought and how.

[Pokerface1337]

The Spartans were that what we call extreme sportsmen today... they were amazing.

[intekz8]

lol im learning this rightnow in 6th grade social studies class

[GodOfWar221]

Can someone please tell, the precise number of ranks deep a Spartan Phallanx was? I would really appreciate it, thanks a lot.

[K1nGn0THin]

@GodOfWar221

Well as the dude here says, it was at least 4 deep. 4 men=Half a phalanx. Usually it was 8-men-deep, but it wasn't an unbreakable rule or anything. They would also adapt a half phalanx to cover greater length and avoid getting flanked for example, when on open ground vs superior numbers. Hope I helped :)

[ilums50]

a roman testudo can make the arrows of persian advantage useless haha

[iamnobodyism]

@ilums50 then the persians turn to their heavy Kataphracts to smash testudos: they did that at Carrae against Crassus

[ilums50]

@iamnobodyism then they can change there formation before cataphracts engage them the cataphracts and arrows cant attack the romans at the same time and crassus is not that great well in my opinion his not even a general his just the richest man in rome and the oldest in triumberates he march his troops in desert and even make lots of mistakes and errors at the battle field and what they face (continue to next comment )

[ilums50]

@iamnobodyism (continued comment ) in there is the partian not the persian the parthian army's cavalry were so elite that they get a title name onto them which is the partian shot

[aikigeorge3]

@iamnobodyism the boiler boys did not show up for a few centuries later from these campaigns the stirrup was the deciding technology, otherwise the kataphracts would have fallen off willy nilly.

it is said they got the idea from the chinese or the mongols.. eventually everybody was using the stirrup, from Japan to Africa.

[iamnobodyism]

@aikigeorge3 but Alexander the Great had heavy shock cavalry he didnt use stirrups, the Armenians under Emperor Tigran the Great had heavy kataphracts, the Parthians had Kataphracts in the Battle of Carrae?

[iamnobodyism]

@aikigeorge3 this was all before the stirrup

[haunteddrifter]

i like the lamallar armor more than the bronze...it was like ancient kevlar. multiple layers of linen and wool with a thin layer of bronze sewn inside that could with stand the strongest spear thrust

[PompeusMagnus]

Composite bows are stronger then English Longbows...

[biojc28]

@PompeusMagnus thanks for that insightful knowledge.....

[PompeusMagnus]

@biojc28 sorry mate i wrote this when i was answering to other commentary's ;) guess i wrote in the wrong video... ;)

[SpnOptimus2011]

@chewiebok Every little thing on their armors (helmet , cloths , shields) was showing who they are... which city-state army (Athens , Sparta , Corinth etc ) , which Corp (Infantry , Cavalary , Marines , Support corp, Special Operations , Siege Engineer etc), their Rank (Warlord, Captain etc) and the wars that they had fought...

[unltimatgreekwarrior]

Why does this keep freezing!!!!!!!!!!!

[chewiebok]

why is there a chicken in the shield? =))

[Heliospathe]

@chewiebok

I prefer the smiley face.

[SpnOptimus2011]

@chewiebok Every Greek Shield had a symbol on it. That shows where the hoplite is from and what is his corpse that he's serving. For Example , Hawk was the symbol of the Skiritida Company of the Spartan Army (Special Operations) , Star was the symbol of Macedonian army , Dolphin was the symbol of the Corinthians Marines , Pegasus was the Corinthian army symbol , Horse was the symbol of the Logades the Athenian Special Operation corpse , anchor was the Athenian Marine Corpse Symbol etc etc

[SpnOptimus2011]

@chewiebok The chicken was the Symbol of the Amyclon Company of the Spartan army.The symbol on the shield was their Army Corp (sry for the Corpse on my last comment) also their Rank was known by their Helmets and the Hoplite that was an olympic champion had wearing his "coroebus o Elis" upon his helmet. So if those days see a Scorpion shield , with a small half moon (they draw their medals on their shields) , red linen and red plume on the helmet. Run ! Hes a night stalker of the Spartan Army

[lions4life2]

@SpnOptimus2011 Hey! Do you have any websites or books where I could research the night stalker of the spartan army? I'm very interested.

[1977gaet]

HELLAS. HELLAS. HELLAS (LAND OF LIGHT). NOT GREECE (LAND OF SLAVES.

[HisMajestyJahoosa]

BTW there only kneeling in the vid to show you how deep the phalanx went, and were talking about the greek phalanx not the Macedonian phalanx, which used pikes not spears

[recoveryprankcalls]

eastren coltures are the best. i love thier archers. their swords. everything

[cyanidepill1]

they didn't kneel you moron. FAIL

[rangerbobcat]

Most historians list about ten thousand Spartan hoplites at the battle of Platea. The rest were helots - lightly armed troops that would fight in skirmish order, not the

heavy infantrymen of the phalanx. So there were Spartan missile and screening troops at the battle to fight the Persian cavalry and archers.

[deadmansguide]

@rangerbobcat i think the number total war 10,000 like 5 or 6 thousand hopolites and the rest helots. Sparta never risked all their troops in one battle.

[MrLantean]

@rangerbobcat The healots were allowed to served as auxilaries to the Spartans. In return, they hoped that they would be granted freedom as reward. Other Greek armies had peltrasts which are lightly armored troops armed with missile weapons like slingshots, javelins and bows. The Spartans believed that only cowards used ranged weapons. The lightly armored healot auxillaries could used their speed and agility to counter Persian archers and cavalry.

[ElvenAngel]

@rangerbobcat I love how people forget that there were also Athenian phalanxes and other allied Greeks with them. I hail from Sparta myself but ffs, everyone's always overrating the Spartans like they were the only ones who did anything in the Persian wars. Hello, Athens fought too? Marathon, Salamis?

[MaMoral88]

wow this show is TRULY AMAZING!!!!Thanks for uploading it!!

[infokemp]

@MaMoral88 This would make a great basis for a remake of the 300 and a sequel

[jabames]

weren't the siyahs developed a lil later, I thought that the tips were curved...

[Aiolosz]

i know the show was about spartans but would like to add that te bow is a skithian bow. (or composit bow in english)

[RIVALBLACKWELL]

Great vid!

[Tsagia]

Fovero video!