the slingshot is a waste of money. it only hooks for about a week then you have to throw it over the 3rd arrow just to keep in close to the pocket buy the tropical storm
i am a 150 avg. bowler i have no problem picking up spares typically but strikes are hard to come buy i use a 16 lbs rotogrip venus. and it seems to just plow thru the pins alot with little or no pin action leaving me very hard splits im looking for something.... i guess anything that would help ne ideas?
@michaelalantharp The best ball for what sounds like a medium oiled to lightly oiled THS would have a fresh pearlised coverstock.Soak the ball in a tub or bucket in hot water (120 degrees Fahrenheit) for 15 minutes. Repeat this as many times as you like preferably 2-3 time.Wipe the ball after every soaking.The get the ball resurfaced. 500, 1000, and polish should do the trick.This will increase the angle of entry and hopefully increase pin action and scoring.I hope this helps.Check out my page.
My dads teammate has 4 of these balls... hes thrown more 700s with this ball than he ever has in his 50 years of bowling. Lol. Personally I like my Cell Pearl... but this ball looks nice to.
no you just dont know how to take care of your bowling balls....and hammer balls can be great for about a month then they lose all their carry.....or they just flat out suck from the get go kinda like the jigsaw
i need a ball for synthetic lanes im a coast to coast bowler my revs r really high n my ball speed is 19mph i need a ball that will react quick n hard suggestions!!???
I started bowling with a scout reactive, which goes only a littlle more than a plastic ball. I learnt to hook with that, and now that i can rev it up and sort the speed (about 14.5) i found that i could change ball to get a proper sharp reaction out of it. Currently, for a ball that goes like a beast, I would really recommend the Jigsaw Trap (hammer).
i am new in bowling so i hav been looking at pro bowlers release,i hav a question how chris barnes uncup his wrist turn to the left then hook the ball
Every person I've watched bowl with this ball loves it, but I personally dont see much to love. It looks great headin down the lane, but it just seem to hit the pins without any kind power for some reason
@shank2nasty My main concern is an adaptive ball that can be useful on almost ALL conditions. A harder hitting ball was just something I needed as well. Also, I have to watch pricing.. Thanks for the help!
Ok because this is a bowling vid you guys prolly know. What grit is a green scotch brite becuz there are like 3 shades of green but prolly the same grit and I needa know cuz I finally got a ball spinner! thanks for the help
How is this ball on different lane conditions? I need a harder hitting ball and something good on ALL conditions and was considering an Ebonite Total NV? How is the Jigsaw?
i need some help. i bowl with a plastic ebonite maxim. i have it drilled finger tip and it doesent hook much at all. i dont have many revs but its not slow. its about medium. i also bowl on a typical house pattern on my league. any suggestions on a new ball?
one thing that would probably help you is if you were to buy a reactive ball rather than a plastic ball. From there, you can make an assessment as to whether or not you need to change the amount of revs you are getting on the ball.
@JasonAndBrandon There are some new balls on the market that would be a great step up from your Maxim. The new Brunswick Slingshot and the soon to be released Storm Tropical Heat have taken entry level reactives to another level. They use proven coverstocks and cores for a great price. Bang for your buck! We will have videos for each of these up very shortly!
@JasonAndBrandon There are some new balls on the market that would be a great step up from your Maxim. The new Brunswick Slingshot and the soon to be released Storm Tropical Heat have taken entry level reactives to another level. They use proven coverstocks and cores for a great price. Bang for your buck! We will have videos for each of these up very shortly!
@bowlingballcom hey i was wondering, i noticed this ball is like the Virtual Gravity, i had the virtual gravity and it took SO long to get into a roll, i'm a medium rev guy, i noticed the VG really only hooked for HIGH rev players and low rev players, but not tweeners, tell me if you think this is good for a medium rev medium speed guy.
yeah good bang for you buck balls would be a tropical storm, link and the new amf hype. All of em are good, and you have seen my nighthawk pearl video, that was 150 bucks so its cheap and its good. If you can find one used like i did, you can get it for about 50 bucks
@JasonAndBrandon This ball (Hammer Jigsaw) is a good reactive ball on multiple lane conditions. But if brand is important to you and you're a Brunswick guy, I've heard good things about the Siege.
@JasonAndBrandon having just started throwing a hook myself if you want to start with something with a little more drive go with the columbia freeze thats what i started with the ball practically walks into the pocket. Another suggestion i was given was the Hammer vibe.
@JasonAndBrandon your ball is plastic its like using one of the bowling alley balls i have one of those to but i use it as a spare ball cause i know its not gonna curve try getting a reactive ball and you will see
@JasonAndBrandon the ebonite maxim is a ball primarily used as either a first bowling ball which is great because it does not move and takes away the worrys of over hooking the ball and not been able to find bowling lines it can also be used as a spare ball. I would recommend a ebonite tornado as a next step ball.
@JasonAndBrandon i would say either the fast or the furious bowling balls if you have mastered the basics and looking for a ball to take you to the next level. remember the doesn't make the bowler.
@JasonAndBrandon the reason it doesnt hook is cuz its juss a full plastic ball.....no block in the middle..for begginer hooker i would recomend the vibe emerald
yes corner..but i have the jigsaw and jigsaw corner..thats 2 ball are sick..i have got about 540 rev..so when corenr is too strong , i change to jigsaw and move 3 4 board and is really great..
Yeah the Freeze is pretty good for playing down and in. I'm a tweener and rarely throw the ball outside of 8 because my lanes are so dry. But I was given this ball for free and decided to try it out. I was actually able to play straight up 6 and 7 board with moderate speed and actually carried. I was surprised to say the least. :)
I WANT THIS BALL!!! i actually just got ahold of a blade reactive. and im averaging 230 with it and have shot 6 700's since jan 1 2010. this ball seems to roll very simular
I think that second dude got a very flat roll. Is it just me that thinks so?
That ball got ten times more potential for a cranker than what his is doing for him.
Got a friend throwing it on a 37' house, hooks all over, out to like second or first board, bam in to the pocket. He started with right side of right foot on the 40th board. So ball down on around 35th maybe?
depends on how you throw, no offense to de4dsp0t but if you a bowler who throws it slow the corner will be WAY too much ball for you, especially if you throw it slow with a higher rev rate, but if you have moderate speed and want something that will go much further down the lane with a fierceful backend, then definately get the corner...i've thrown nothing like it before!
The Mutant Cell looks like a pretty aggressive yet still somewhat angular option for those out there looking. I've seen similar drills thrown by the same person of a Mutant Cell and the Jigsaw, and the Mutant seems 3 or so boards stronger, and maybe 5-6 feet later than the Jigsaw.
i was bowling for my highschool yesterday and the ball return machine jammed and it put 2 HUGE gashes in my jigsaw. i was soooooo pissed but they said they were gonna fix it for free so i hope it still works
OH MY GOD! That happened to me yesterday during my school match! 7 balls were jammed in the back and my ball was the worst one out of all of them according to the pro shop guy at the bowling alley... i had 4 gashes that were all 5 inches long .... i trashed that ball and I got the diamondback!
I'm looking for a solid that's more angular, as right now the only solid I have in my bag is a dimension drilled to hook smooth and early. I'm looking for something that's still a solid that I could use when the carry on the dimension starts to suffer, and when there starts being more friction on the middle part of the lane. I'm looking at the C-system, the magic, and this. Which do you think is best for a strong but not overly aggressive backend reaction from a solid cover ball?
I love my jigsaw. Ive thrown 2 300's and a 805 the first two weeks i had the ball. i dont throw it much because their is not alot of oil at the three houses i bowl at. PLEASE CHANGE THE SURFACE ON THW JIGSAW IF YOU WANT A BETTER REACTION!. If you polish this ball, it works even better and got that virtual gravity look out of my ball.
i think u should buy jigsaw...u can see the reaction between jigsaw and black widow sting..jigsaw has more backend reaction and through the pin too...i want to buy hammer jigsaw...=)
You can always get the Jigsaw drilled weak and put some polish on it for medium oil, it doesn't look bad, I might go and get it but i'm not sure bcs I already have a Mutant Cell.
As some of you indicated this ball out of the box doesnt hook as much you would think. However, once you wear into the cover the ball becomes explosive like no other. It took me about 15 games to get it working right. Now I am rolling 650s and 700s with ubelievable backend movement.
How would you compare the Brunswick Siege and the Hammer Jigsaw with eachother? Which one hooks more, which one is more agressive, which one hooks later etc? Thanks
i would go jigsaw then the mutant cell, if you get used to a jigsaw it is very consistant for a highly reactive ball, almost any balls shell is garbage after three months if you bowl frequently, its just the companies making the covers so aggressive that the covers are soft and wear out....sucks i know
@DarkMag1k yyeaaaaa dudeee lets buy a sponge from storm that sucks asss dude look don't hate cause hammer has better balls then storm ok we al know storm is all about sponge
jigsaw sucks mutant cell is awesome and the sting is a great backend so sting for tremendous backend however hammer high price balls dud out in like 3 months so get the mutant its the best ball i throw!
Mutant hands down, I average about a 190 and I've been throwing but high 600s lately, it may suck at first, but once you get the hang of the Mutant cell, its a hard hitting ball, LOTS of messengers, and fast ones to.
i agree with what snake1719 said it depends how u grip the ball relese it and hook it and u have to be really good at bowling to use this i have this ball black widow pearl and the counter strike which is a ball i would like to recommend but u need to be very consistint because the jigsaw and counter strike are not forgiving if u have crappy at hitting ur mark
I just bought this ball and drilled it with the all-purpose layout and I must say that this ball does better than all my others on oily lane conditions; shot a 265 with it. I do have some problems on medium oil lanes though, the messenger pin seems to fall flat and doesn't get to the 10 pin at all. Guess it could be my rpm's , being more of a stroker.
The ball will hook depending on the way you release the ball. Also don't try to judge a ball that you havent bowled on a fresh shot because it may have been previous bowlers that might have pushed oil down the lane to where your normal break point is. I have this ball and the 930 t and they are both great but do have different qualities
WOW, i was really looking forward to bying this ball, but then they let me try one out before i actually bought mine and drilled it, and i was confused. The ball is like, sht. It seemed like it was sliding, not even rolling down the lane and just kind of rotating sideways trying to hook. It barely hooked at all. I ended up getting the 930T, and that ball is great. I really dont reccomend this ball at all. 930T or just about any other ball for that cost is way better than this
i love this ball i had switched to brunswick for a year and there good but not what it was looking for so i got this ball i love it my average was 150 and now with the black widow pearl and jigsaw my average is 175 so dont listen to munkyman90 cause it is what ur looking for u can change the sureface so it rolls more or snaps more at the end it is all on what u want
i threw the jigsaw with out of the box finish and it just skid straight down the lane. i have the c system from brunswick and threw it the same way i threw the jigsaw and it snapped right into the pocket. so in my opinion this ball is complete shit....and apparently many other agree
i would go to your pro shop and have your finger weight weighed if your jigsaw isnt hooking, if there is too much finger weight or top weight in your ball, it could make the ball go to long and never have a chance to hook know what i mean
No sir, I do not agree with you. I bought mine out of the pro shop and bowled6 games with it that day. My first game was a 160 mind you (wasn't worried about the spares just trying to find the right angle). Next game was a 256 (converting spares). The recovery of this ball is amazing...
ball is an absolute peice of shit. i played it on a medium-oily lane condition and it slid right thru. then i switched to the c system and had much better luck. i would not buy this ball
@munkeyman90 because the coverstock for the jigsaw is made for proffesional proformance on heavy oil. Jigsaw has a high polish that on heavy oil kicks the backend up a lot. On medium oil Jigsaw just slides
Im actually having alot of hook with mine; I uploaded a video of it on my profile. The cover was designed for heavier oil patterns. If you throw this ball flat palm or don't have that many revs, it might change drastically.
to be honest i hate hammer because there cover stocks die out so quick all the jigsaw is is hammer verison of storms virtual gravity but the virtual gravity is overall a better ball thats just waht i think
i agree.. i have the jigsaw and the virtual energy.. i got them drilled for back end hook. although the pro shop said jigsaw will hook more, virtual energy hooks more. virtual energy is definitely the better buy
this ball is best for lanes that acctually have oil if you dont have oil to skid it through this ball will not do anything for you so if you bowl on a dry lane conndition i wouldnt sugest this ball
so im guessing these lanes are just used for reviews so it doesnt matter what the outcome of the pins are but that pinsetter is set so fast it actually caught a falling pin during the 2nd guys part. kinda weird but i guess if you want it to set back up quick then who cares right?
the chalk and the jigsaw are two different balls. Totally different core, coverstock, and reaction. I have the BW pearl and the jigsaw tow different beasts
I Just Bought Mine , After Seein What Alot Of People Thought Of It I Thought It Was A Risk , But Omg This Is 1 Hell Of A Ball , Hits The Pocket Like A Beast , I Also Have The Siege and BLACK WIDOW STING , But Compared To The Jigsaw They Might Aswell Go Straight ,, The Coverstock On The JIGSAW Is Fantastic , Highly Recommend This Ball When Up Agianst Heavy Oil , Light Oil No Chance :L
it is not the same ball, the chalk is a weaker ball that revs up earlier and doesnt flare as much. the chalk has an RG of 2.44 and Diff of .045 and the widow pearl has an RG of 2.50 and a Diff of .060........the cores can look the same, but minor adjustments to core shapes can drastically change ball movement
i do like this ball and it looks pretty good, like something i would want to go pin down with almost like my furious. the other thing is that it seems really hard to get messengers in the house. like its seems the machines are really quick.
i have question. the second bowler has his layout over the pin. does that make it go longer or shorter. it looks very good. the layout is real close to mine. so i think i might like this ball.
bunch of idiots. having your own bowling lanes would cost you about $1000.00 + every month just in power. I know a guy who bought an old 8 lane bowling center near buffaole ny and just to run one lane with no other power on costs him $1500.
Now! i like the new Jigsaw. considering getting one in a few months. nice vid. keep them comming.
This ball deflects more than a George W. Bush Whitehouse. What are they throwing, 12 pounders? lol It looks freaking rad going down the lane though, which means people will buy it, because that's what 7/8 of customers pick balls by.
honestly, yes it is. My friend who I bowl with is on the PBA, sponsored by Hammer, and he said that the jigsaw is the Chalk, Hammer just decided to rename it because the Chalk was originally made for some organization, I can't remember the name, and Hammer decided to release it to the public named as the Jigsaw
Honestly its not, a buddy of mine who works in the pro shop near me is on the Hammer Staff, he holds a couple of regional titles and bowled an 899 series, and holds the WORLD RECORD for highest for game series, 1198. And your friend that is "sponsored" by Hammer is wrong, and the organization your thinking of is TNBA. Jigsaw and the Chalk are nothing a like, they have different cores and different covers. So your friend that is "sponsored" by Hammer is an idiot.
Yea I just got a storm tropical heat its hooks like a charm I reccomend it I bowled a 266 a 189 and a 210
MusicLoverETF123 3 months ago
the slingshot is a waste of money. it only hooks for about a week then you have to throw it over the 3rd arrow just to keep in close to the pocket buy the tropical storm
lilmanfromthehood 11 months ago
that ball hits like a peach!
Brutekiller147 1 year ago
Why does john look so lazy when he bowls? lol
KoryoJin 1 year ago
fix your pin setter. it comes down way to fast
cdlcrusader1 1 year ago
This ball is junk. Dislike
ADbowling2000 1 year ago 7
haha pinsetter screwed up at 2.19
phonejoey 1 year ago
i am a 150 avg. bowler i have no problem picking up spares typically but strikes are hard to come buy i use a 16 lbs rotogrip venus. and it seems to just plow thru the pins alot with little or no pin action leaving me very hard splits im looking for something.... i guess anything that would help ne ideas?
michaelalantharp 1 year ago
@michaelalantharp The best ball for what sounds like a medium oiled to lightly oiled THS would have a fresh pearlised coverstock.Soak the ball in a tub or bucket in hot water (120 degrees Fahrenheit) for 15 minutes. Repeat this as many times as you like preferably 2-3 time.Wipe the ball after every soaking.The get the ball resurfaced. 500, 1000, and polish should do the trick.This will increase the angle of entry and hopefully increase pin action and scoring.I hope this helps.Check out my page.
computerdynamo 1 year ago
My dads teammate has 4 of these balls... hes thrown more 700s with this ball than he ever has in his 50 years of bowling. Lol. Personally I like my Cell Pearl... but this ball looks nice to.
CCGeorgeWashington 1 year ago
the first guy comes over the top of the ball so hard
n64masta2009 1 year ago
@the300man
no you just dont know how to take care of your bowling balls....and hammer balls can be great for about a month then they lose all their carry.....or they just flat out suck from the get go kinda like the jigsaw
enrocka319 1 year ago
i have a old hammer blast i was thinking about getting a new ball any sugestions
scopeartist2 1 year ago
You should get a jigsaw corner or reign of fire or even wait for track 916 all terrain or roto grip theory
TheDvillape 1 year ago
i need a ball for synthetic lanes im a coast to coast bowler my revs r really high n my ball speed is 19mph i need a ball that will react quick n hard suggestions!!???
hucknbuck1 1 year ago
@ 2:20 of video brunswick A2 machine gave a free spare lol
shaneo1482 1 year ago
I started bowling with a scout reactive, which goes only a littlle more than a plastic ball. I learnt to hook with that, and now that i can rev it up and sort the speed (about 14.5) i found that i could change ball to get a proper sharp reaction out of it. Currently, for a ball that goes like a beast, I would really recommend the Jigsaw Trap (hammer).
1Marris1 1 year ago
i am new in bowling so i hav been looking at pro bowlers release,i hav a question how chris barnes uncup his wrist turn to the left then hook the ball
etjjrock 1 year ago
Every person I've watched bowl with this ball loves it, but I personally dont see much to love. It looks great headin down the lane, but it just seem to hit the pins without any kind power for some reason
metal2thebone 1 year ago
u guys should do the complete bedlam!!! the video they got doesnt show its tru potential
nightwing171 1 year ago
@shank2nasty Thanks for the help, I'll definitely consider that ball now.
NitrousMatt 1 year ago
@shank2nasty My main concern is an adaptive ball that can be useful on almost ALL conditions. A harder hitting ball was just something I needed as well. Also, I have to watch pricing.. Thanks for the help!
NitrousMatt 1 year ago
what are the song\s in the background ?
by the way you're amazing !
dagon940 1 year ago
Ok because this is a bowling vid you guys prolly know. What grit is a green scotch brite becuz there are like 3 shades of green but prolly the same grit and I needa know cuz I finally got a ball spinner! thanks for the help
pmbazman15 1 year ago
a fricking bowling alley in your house jeez LUCKY!!!
SargentNaggles 1 year ago
How is this ball on different lane conditions? I need a harder hitting ball and something good on ALL conditions and was considering an Ebonite Total NV? How is the Jigsaw?
NitrousMatt 1 year ago
i need some help. i bowl with a plastic ebonite maxim. i have it drilled finger tip and it doesent hook much at all. i dont have many revs but its not slow. its about medium. i also bowl on a typical house pattern on my league. any suggestions on a new ball?
JasonAndBrandon 1 year ago
one thing that would probably help you is if you were to buy a reactive ball rather than a plastic ball. From there, you can make an assessment as to whether or not you need to change the amount of revs you are getting on the ball.
BrennanSaysBowlinRox 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon A Tropical Storm or a Scout Reactive.
JackyQuacky27 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon There are some new balls on the market that would be a great step up from your Maxim. The new Brunswick Slingshot and the soon to be released Storm Tropical Heat have taken entry level reactives to another level. They use proven coverstocks and cores for a great price. Bang for your buck! We will have videos for each of these up very shortly!
bowlingballcom 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon There are some new balls on the market that would be a great step up from your Maxim. The new Brunswick Slingshot and the soon to be released Storm Tropical Heat have taken entry level reactives to another level. They use proven coverstocks and cores for a great price. Bang for your buck! We will have videos for each of these up very shortly!
bowlingballcom 1 year ago
@bowlingballcom hey i was wondering, i noticed this ball is like the Virtual Gravity, i had the virtual gravity and it took SO long to get into a roll, i'm a medium rev guy, i noticed the VG really only hooked for HIGH rev players and low rev players, but not tweeners, tell me if you think this is good for a medium rev medium speed guy.
StormBowler1994 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon
yeah good bang for you buck balls would be a tropical storm, link and the new amf hype. All of em are good, and you have seen my nighthawk pearl video, that was 150 bucks so its cheap and its good. If you can find one used like i did, you can get it for about 50 bucks
MrBowlermatt 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon This ball (Hammer Jigsaw) is a good reactive ball on multiple lane conditions. But if brand is important to you and you're a Brunswick guy, I've heard good things about the Siege.
ycdtotv 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon having just started throwing a hook myself if you want to start with something with a little more drive go with the columbia freeze thats what i started with the ball practically walks into the pocket. Another suggestion i was given was the Hammer vibe.
MaskedJester90 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon go with the tropical storm not the heat i have done amazing with my tropical storm you can check out my video i made on it.
D3athR33per 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon Thats probably cause its plastic.
NJFire1906 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon your ball is plastic its like using one of the bowling alley balls i have one of those to but i use it as a spare ball cause i know its not gonna curve try getting a reactive ball and you will see
c2maxwell 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon the ebonite maxim is a ball primarily used as either a first bowling ball which is great because it does not move and takes away the worrys of over hooking the ball and not been able to find bowling lines it can also be used as a spare ball. I would recommend a ebonite tornado as a next step ball.
dobbaftm 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon i would say either the fast or the furious bowling balls if you have mastered the basics and looking for a ball to take you to the next level. remember the doesn't make the bowler.
esau43 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon
Sorry for this answer but - are you bulshitting us?
The Maxim is a Polyester Ball, manufactured to throw spares, meaning, it is to designed to hook as less as it can. Get reaktive. Or play two handed.
Gehirnlutscher 1 year ago
@JasonAndBrandon the reason it doesnt hook is cuz its juss a full plastic ball.....no block in the middle..for begginer hooker i would recomend the vibe emerald
ODYSSEYBUBBA 10 months ago
@JasonAndBrandon the plastic or Polyester Bowling Balls with finger tips....
are used as picking spares, not for strikes...its didnt hooks much
if wanted the ball to hook....the dot on the ball has to be above ur ring finger or next to..
loeb1 1 month ago
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enrocka319 1 year ago
this ball reminds me of my perfect rival soo much just the way it flips in the backends
pmbazman15 1 year ago
yes corner..but i have the jigsaw and jigsaw corner..thats 2 ball are sick..i have got about 540 rev..so when corenr is too strong , i change to jigsaw and move 3 4 board and is really great..
40laszlo 1 year ago
CORNER CORNER CORNER
scopeartist2 2 years ago
i already got this ball.... its awsome!!
manmac82 2 years ago
Time delay is a little off on the pinsetter, those are some fast racks lol ball rolls like a truck though!
Turtle3000GT 2 years ago
is a freeze any good???
MrNiggerkiller9 2 years ago
good for small curving, on light oil, if you wanna go big go with hammer
acdclover013 2 years ago
Yeah the Freeze is pretty good for playing down and in. I'm a tweener and rarely throw the ball outside of 8 because my lanes are so dry. But I was given this ball for free and decided to try it out. I was actually able to play straight up 6 and 7 board with moderate speed and actually carried. I was surprised to say the least. :)
AlexBowler4106 1 year ago
is it better to bowl without finger tips or with just the tips of your fingers
brian7521 2 years ago
for curve, finger tips
acdclover013 2 years ago
tips......gives u more side rotation
mocitypearland 2 years ago
lol at 2:09 !
BrianCRX90 2 years ago
hey could you guys post a video of the Jigsaw Corner??? are u GOING to post one eventually?
kid1424654844 2 years ago 3
you guys should do a video for the jigsaw corner.
TomThePharmacist 2 years ago 2
I WANT THIS BALL!!! i actually just got ahold of a blade reactive. and im averaging 230 with it and have shot 6 700's since jan 1 2010. this ball seems to roll very simular
air1022bowler 2 years ago
Wow I'm surprised with as much as this guy is concerned with the way he looks he doesn't have an arm brace on the left arm!
cmclean300 2 years ago
just like my mutant cell but a lil less backend
championx3 2 years ago
Jigsaw corner is going to go hard. This ball reminds me of my ONE a lot
pmbazman15 2 years ago
They don't actually
jeffdunn2 2 years ago
deflect
jeffdunn2 2 years ago
the best ball ever storm was disapointed when they saw that hammer has better balls:)
the300man 2 years ago
Just got this ball today in the mail cant wait to get it drilled an try it out .
I ebayed it for 70 bux lol
curtissparker 2 years ago
I think that second dude got a very flat roll. Is it just me that thinks so?
That ball got ten times more potential for a cranker than what his is doing for him.
Got a friend throwing it on a 37' house, hooks all over, out to like second or first board, bam in to the pocket. He started with right side of right foot on the 40th board. So ball down on around 35th maybe?
jimtore2krypton 2 years ago
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enrocka319 2 years ago
I'm looking to get this ball. Does it have alot of backend?
jaydy11 2 years ago
no if you want a backend on get the new jigsaw corner i just bought the corner i haven't gotten it yet but it looks perfect for the way i throw
De4dSp0t 2 years ago
depends on how you throw, no offense to de4dsp0t but if you a bowler who throws it slow the corner will be WAY too much ball for you, especially if you throw it slow with a higher rev rate, but if you have moderate speed and want something that will go much further down the lane with a fierceful backend, then definately get the corner...i've thrown nothing like it before!
blomblom123 2 years ago
I love this ball it rolls early and arcs alot!!!
igetamercedes 2 years ago
jigsaw has more back-end then the mutant cell and is better...I have both. I would get the jigsaw corner...that thing is going to be sick!
golflover152 2 years ago
my uncle bought the jigsaw 2 months ago and he got a 300 in the first game!
shane67lchs 2 years ago
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RavenBowler 2 years ago
The Mutant Cell looks like a pretty aggressive yet still somewhat angular option for those out there looking. I've seen similar drills thrown by the same person of a Mutant Cell and the Jigsaw, and the Mutant seems 3 or so boards stronger, and maybe 5-6 feet later than the Jigsaw.
HDRider2002 2 years ago
i have the rogue cell and i dont know if i want the virtual gravity or the jigsaw!!
oakleysrocks 2 years ago
@oakleysrocks HELP ME!
oakleysrocks 2 years ago
@oakleysrocks i would go with the jigsaw i had the virtual gravity and i hated it it would never cary through the pocket the jig saw is a great ball
ebonite19 2 years ago
i just got this ball i love it hooks like a beast
ebonite19 2 years ago
Do you also tested the Jigsaw Corner??
19Raptor87 2 years ago
i was bowling for my highschool yesterday and the ball return machine jammed and it put 2 HUGE gashes in my jigsaw. i was soooooo pissed but they said they were gonna fix it for free so i hope it still works
BernieceLover 2 years ago
OH MY GOD! That happened to me yesterday during my school match! 7 balls were jammed in the back and my ball was the worst one out of all of them according to the pro shop guy at the bowling alley... i had 4 gashes that were all 5 inches long .... i trashed that ball and I got the diamondback!
jeongmin72194 2 years ago
I'm looking for a solid that's more angular, as right now the only solid I have in my bag is a dimension drilled to hook smooth and early. I'm looking for something that's still a solid that I could use when the carry on the dimension starts to suffer, and when there starts being more friction on the middle part of the lane. I'm looking at the C-system, the magic, and this. Which do you think is best for a strong but not overly aggressive backend reaction from a solid cover ball?
waddleman 2 years ago
I love my jigsaw. Ive thrown 2 300's and a 805 the first two weeks i had the ball. i dont throw it much because their is not alot of oil at the three houses i bowl at. PLEASE CHANGE THE SURFACE ON THW JIGSAW IF YOU WANT A BETTER REACTION!. If you polish this ball, it works even better and got that virtual gravity look out of my ball.
msoldier69 2 years ago
I just bought jigsaw today and notised that it got balls ! =) Very good ball indeed
Eternium87 2 years ago
wich ball is better the black widow sting or the jigsaw i am going to get a new ball an i am having trouble between those two any advise?
ebonite19 2 years ago
i think u should buy jigsaw...u can see the reaction between jigsaw and black widow sting..jigsaw has more backend reaction and through the pin too...i want to buy hammer jigsaw...=)
buritkudanmu 2 years ago
Depends Jigsaw is heavy oil Sting is medium
NokturnalDesecration 2 years ago
You can always get the Jigsaw drilled weak and put some polish on it for medium oil, it doesn't look bad, I might go and get it but i'm not sure bcs I already have a Mutant Cell.
DrivillianGenocide 2 years ago
As some of you indicated this ball out of the box doesnt hook as much you would think. However, once you wear into the cover the ball becomes explosive like no other. It took me about 15 games to get it working right. Now I am rolling 650s and 700s with ubelievable backend movement.
zebnkee 2 years ago
How would you compare the Brunswick Siege and the Hammer Jigsaw with eachother? Which one hooks more, which one is more agressive, which one hooks later etc? Thanks
carlorowan 2 years ago
there is no comparison the jigsaw is way better overall brunswick makes crap nowadays
2514109 2 years ago
what about that csystem
durtjumpkid 2 years ago
the c-system doesn't look to bad but since brunswick moved to mexico theyve been making shit
2514109 2 years ago
This ball is soo good. I hate throwing it at the3rd arrow on the left side but I shot 300 256 then 289 the ball is sickk
ashxOx21 2 years ago
i would go jigsaw then the mutant cell, if you get used to a jigsaw it is very consistant for a highly reactive ball, almost any balls shell is garbage after three months if you bowl frequently, its just the companies making the covers so aggressive that the covers are soft and wear out....sucks i know
snake1719 2 years ago
@ snake
i have the pin-down layout with the pin 5" from the PAP...im a tweener with about 300 revs
munkeyman90 2 years ago
What does a thumb insert do for your bowling?
JiGsAw3oo 2 years ago
Go buy a Virtual Gravity
DarkMag1k 2 years ago 5
@DarkMag1k yyeaaaaa dudeee lets buy a sponge from storm that sucks asss dude look don't hate cause hammer has better balls then storm ok we al know storm is all about sponge
the300man 1 year ago
wat ball should i get...jigsaw..mutant cell..or sting??can u guys plz reply i really need to know..i cant decide
SuperFunnyman13 2 years ago
jigsaw sucks mutant cell is awesome and the sting is a great backend so sting for tremendous backend however hammer high price balls dud out in like 3 months so get the mutant its the best ball i throw!
PFLUGRADT 2 years ago
Mutant hands down, I average about a 190 and I've been throwing but high 600s lately, it may suck at first, but once you get the hang of the Mutant cell, its a hard hitting ball, LOTS of messengers, and fast ones to.
DrivillianGenocide 2 years ago
i agree with what snake1719 said it depends how u grip the ball relese it and hook it and u have to be really good at bowling to use this i have this ball black widow pearl and the counter strike which is a ball i would like to recommend but u need to be very consistint because the jigsaw and counter strike are not forgiving if u have crappy at hitting ur mark
Bowlingfreak175 2 years ago
You either hate it or love it..... Nuff said.
rpatino6 2 years ago
I just bought this ball and drilled it with the all-purpose layout and I must say that this ball does better than all my others on oily lane conditions; shot a 265 with it. I do have some problems on medium oil lanes though, the messenger pin seems to fall flat and doesn't get to the 10 pin at all. Guess it could be my rpm's , being more of a stroker.
HammerBowler91 2 years ago
The ball will hook depending on the way you release the ball. Also don't try to judge a ball that you havent bowled on a fresh shot because it may have been previous bowlers that might have pushed oil down the lane to where your normal break point is. I have this ball and the 930 t and they are both great but do have different qualities
snake1719 2 years ago
WOW, i was really looking forward to bying this ball, but then they let me try one out before i actually bought mine and drilled it, and i was confused. The ball is like, sht. It seemed like it was sliding, not even rolling down the lane and just kind of rotating sideways trying to hook. It barely hooked at all. I ended up getting the 930T, and that ball is great. I really dont reccomend this ball at all. 930T or just about any other ball for that cost is way better than this
PS3dude11 2 years ago
i love this ball i had switched to brunswick for a year and there good but not what it was looking for so i got this ball i love it my average was 150 and now with the black widow pearl and jigsaw my average is 175 so dont listen to munkyman90 cause it is what ur looking for u can change the sureface so it rolls more or snaps more at the end it is all on what u want
Bowlingfreak175 2 years ago
@ bowlingfreak
i threw the jigsaw with out of the box finish and it just skid straight down the lane. i have the c system from brunswick and threw it the same way i threw the jigsaw and it snapped right into the pocket. so in my opinion this ball is complete shit....and apparently many other agree
munkeyman90 2 years ago
agreed the jigsaw was just awful
PFLUGRADT 2 years ago
@munkeyman90
i would go to your pro shop and have your finger weight weighed if your jigsaw isnt hooking, if there is too much finger weight or top weight in your ball, it could make the ball go to long and never have a chance to hook know what i mean
snake1719 2 years ago
No sir, I do not agree with you. I bought mine out of the pro shop and bowled6 games with it that day. My first game was a 160 mind you (wasn't worried about the spares just trying to find the right angle). Next game was a 256 (converting spares). The recovery of this ball is amazing...
EricErodClark 2 years ago
this ball makes me feel like i'm doing something wrong. my gravity shift hooks more than it!
seto1994 2 years ago
ball is an absolute peice of shit. i played it on a medium-oily lane condition and it slid right thru. then i switched to the c system and had much better luck. i would not buy this ball
munkeyman90 2 years ago 6
@munkeyman90 Depending on the lanes and how you throw the ball will determine its reaction.
akinahyuuga 1 year ago
@munkeyman90 because the coverstock for the jigsaw is made for proffesional proformance on heavy oil. Jigsaw has a high polish that on heavy oil kicks the backend up a lot. On medium oil Jigsaw just slides
giorclano 1 year ago
Im actually having alot of hook with mine; I uploaded a video of it on my profile. The cover was designed for heavier oil patterns. If you throw this ball flat palm or don't have that many revs, it might change drastically.
HammerBowler91 2 years ago
I hate this ball It's nothing but talk. The ones I used didn't have a big hook at all not even when I threw it slow
NMjuggalo505 2 years ago
I'm getting this ball in an hour. I can't wait to try it out.
Hunterismyname414 2 years ago
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i am a righty and i got my holes drilled where my ring ringer is drilled right above the orange dot. how was i supposed to drill it for maximum hook.
techboy710 2 years ago
robbed! 2:13
sixx788 2 years ago
haha thats bullshit XD
SuicideSilence4lyf 2 years ago
What oil pattern is that
Corbster17 2 years ago
prob heavy house shot
vashtheowner 2 years ago
I'm will buy this ball at the end of november this ball is really good i think it'll be better than my ebonite strinking motion
19Raptor87 2 years ago
to be honest i hate hammer because there cover stocks die out so quick all the jigsaw is is hammer verison of storms virtual gravity but the virtual gravity is overall a better ball thats just waht i think
hockyboy313 2 years ago
i agree.. i have the jigsaw and the virtual energy.. i got them drilled for back end hook. although the pro shop said jigsaw will hook more, virtual energy hooks more. virtual energy is definitely the better buy
ajrrc 2 years ago
i have this ball and it does hook alot but i just got the track 930t and that ball makes this one look a little lame
snake1719 2 years ago 3
the 930t is a beast....
ffsuperfreak 2 years ago
this ball is best for lanes that acctually have oil if you dont have oil to skid it through this ball will not do anything for you so if you bowl on a dry lane conndition i wouldnt sugest this ball
AdenR8 2 years ago
For every ball that comes out everyone say that this ball hooks more than anthing no this ball HOOKS more than any ball ever made.
nazobowler 2 years ago
you guys should bowl at the normal bowling alleys
igetamercedes 2 years ago 2
boy that ball return is fast!
just kidding
i think i'm gonna get that ball
MBfilmproductions 2 years ago
so im guessing these lanes are just used for reviews so it doesnt matter what the outcome of the pins are but that pinsetter is set so fast it actually caught a falling pin during the 2nd guys part. kinda weird but i guess if you want it to set back up quick then who cares right?
sharnothegreat 2 years ago
wow those lanes give no time for messengers!
1337ScubaTal 2 years ago
wow what a nice ball
WILDSTYLEVOLATILE 2 years ago
the chalk and the jigsaw are two different balls. Totally different core, coverstock, and reaction. I have the BW pearl and the jigsaw tow different beasts
TheOsoBrown 2 years ago
I Just Bought Mine , After Seein What Alot Of People Thought Of It I Thought It Was A Risk , But Omg This Is 1 Hell Of A Ball , Hits The Pocket Like A Beast , I Also Have The Siege and BLACK WIDOW STING , But Compared To The Jigsaw They Might Aswell Go Straight ,, The Coverstock On The JIGSAW Is Fantastic , Highly Recommend This Ball When Up Agianst Heavy Oil , Light Oil No Chance :L
Style
Age : 16
style : Cranker
Rev Rate : 540
High Track
XxUnStoppableForcexX 2 years ago
I love hammer but it doesn't look to have that flip or the drive. Looks like it deflects a little.
jeffdunn2 2 years ago
the chalks core looks just like the black widow pearl. From what ive researched its the same ball, just a different color.
TheOsoBrown 2 years ago
Well if the core is the same as the black widow pearl then the jigsaw and the chalk are 2 different balls
bleedzacid 2 years ago
it is not the same ball, the chalk is a weaker ball that revs up earlier and doesnt flare as much. the chalk has an RG of 2.44 and Diff of .045 and the widow pearl has an RG of 2.50 and a Diff of .060........the cores can look the same, but minor adjustments to core shapes can drastically change ball movement
Hammerhead419 2 years ago
best ball made by hammer since the black widow. period.
XXXmouseXXX 2 years ago
you gauys are the luckiest people on earth to have a private lane
markhiltongnar 2 years ago
i do like this ball and it looks pretty good, like something i would want to go pin down with almost like my furious. the other thing is that it seems really hard to get messengers in the house. like its seems the machines are really quick.
rotogrip138 2 years ago
i have question. the second bowler has his layout over the pin. does that make it go longer or shorter. it looks very good. the layout is real close to mine. so i think i might like this ball.
oldschoolhammer 2 years ago
longer
eliteWarriorSpb 2 years ago
bunch of idiots. having your own bowling lanes would cost you about $1000.00 + every month just in power. I know a guy who bought an old 8 lane bowling center near buffaole ny and just to run one lane with no other power on costs him $1500.
Now! i like the new Jigsaw. considering getting one in a few months. nice vid. keep them comming.
oldschoolhammer 2 years ago
This ball deflects more than a George W. Bush Whitehouse. What are they throwing, 12 pounders? lol It looks freaking rad going down the lane though, which means people will buy it, because that's what 7/8 of customers pick balls by.
Pmanning16 2 years ago
A failed attempt at a Virtual Gravity equal. This ball doesn't finish nearly like the Sting.
Sawhead28 2 years ago
theres something i dont like about this ball, its just look not good when it enters the pocket, like i lose confidence...
Interdicted 2 years ago
you can not get one single lane, the machine you need is allways for 2 lanes : /
Profilo 2 years ago
how much would it cost to have a bowling alley in ur house?
thesaber23 2 years ago
to have 2 lanes, 40 or 50 thousand.
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago
dang! how much for 1 lane 20 thousand?
thesaber23 2 years ago
if possible, id say thats accuarte
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago
sweet because that would let u play bowling for free pretty much at any time
thesaber23 2 years ago
i know, would be the greatest thing ever, well also put the cost of an oil machine as well
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago
so about 15000 dollars total thats worth non-stop bowling
thesaber23 2 years ago
my name is Jigsaw, and i want to play a GAME!!! ^_^
teothedemon 2 years ago
is that a private bowling alley in somebody'shouse ???????????
romyellasilvafamily 2 years ago
Theres rumors that you need to bowl at least 6 games for maximum hook.
NoobAsianRawrs 2 years ago
It looks like it hits weak and dosn't have the hooking power advertised. Your basic Twisted fury solid.
Thecoasterchannel 2 years ago
yea i agree, but my friend got one, and it hits like a truck, prob due to his layout
BobSubmaw 2 years ago
How is it layed out? Pin position mainly.
Thecoasterchannel 2 years ago
Damn...looks like that ball matches up really well with John's style.
EyeThought 2 years ago 2
The Jigsaw is just the Hammer Chalk with Jigsaw written on it
dillonleetaylor 2 years ago
REALLY?
CUZ ITS NOT!!
eliteWarriorSpb 2 years ago
honestly, yes it is. My friend who I bowl with is on the PBA, sponsored by Hammer, and he said that the jigsaw is the Chalk, Hammer just decided to rename it because the Chalk was originally made for some organization, I can't remember the name, and Hammer decided to release it to the public named as the Jigsaw
dillonleetaylor 2 years ago
Honestly its not, a buddy of mine who works in the pro shop near me is on the Hammer Staff, he holds a couple of regional titles and bowled an 899 series, and holds the WORLD RECORD for highest for game series, 1198. And your friend that is "sponsored" by Hammer is wrong, and the organization your thinking of is TNBA. Jigsaw and the Chalk are nothing a like, they have different cores and different covers. So your friend that is "sponsored" by Hammer is an idiot.
eliteWarriorSpb 2 years ago