My friend hunts and the meat he brings back sucks. It is way to lean and kinda gamey. America used to be one big wilderness area but in modern times there is almost no wilderness left. We got only 5% virgin forest left in the country. That's whats gets me. Going into the few areas left where wild animals can be themselves and shooting them for fun is weird to me. You can't afford cheap meat from the discount store ?
@flubno the cycle of life has always been hunter & hunted. If you don't like the meat, that's your business, but many enjoy it. But what I enjoy more is knowing exactly how my food died. A quick death from a shot to the heart or lungs. Can animals be themselves packed into a pen where they can barely move? Is being hung upside down until your throat is slit a humane way to die? My meat comes from animals who have experienced freedom, and life. Not to mention I help control overpopulated species.
Being "pro" or "anti" hunting isn't the issue, the question is how much hunting is realistic so that people can remain a part of the natural world and not be a parasite in it. Have you contemplated your clothes, food, and medicines? Beyond asking you to question the nature of the system that provides them to you, I just ask you to realize that you have them. Wildlife does not. Your existence no longer hinges on your ability to hunt, therefore its entirely sport. Maybe take up photography?
This past November me and my buddy went hunting. First day there we spotted fresh wolf tracks about 300 yds from camp. The tracks followed deer tracks, we never saw them but there were a couple of them howling at each other that day and night, possible they were scouts. Scary stuff man, we just had one 2 days ago here in the city.
Hunting for food is one thing, heck if your to poor to be able to afford food at a grocery store I get that, It's the hunters who believe the world is theirs for the taking that get my feathers ruffled (figuritively obviously). To shoot something like a wolf because you believe it's a nuisance then go home to your pet fido who is a far off distant relative of the species just confuses me. Hunting for food is alright by me, hunting for the sport is just stupid.
why do humans have to get involved in an animals eco system? i really dont understand why we get involved. by doing so its like people are being nosy jews.
Wow i had to laugh at this video and all of the responses. These wolves are not stalking you, just because your afraid of them and hear stories about rabid wolves doesn't mean a pack of howling wolves in the distance is stalking you. Plus you cant hold the camera strait with those scared shaking hands haha.
@Shanon Mcnab-You are an embarrassment. I would be shocked if you have a high school diploma. Do you really believe wolves were never here before white men? Obviously elk and wolves lived here for centuries before Europeans. I never said anything about wasted meat. I don't know where you got that? Additionally I don't ADORE wolves. I could really care less I just find it funny how quickly you people are to blame the wolf for your problems.
@salmonrafter Sorry Fuck nuts I've not even mentioned once in any of my posts about wasted meat. NOT ONCE where do you come up with the theory that's what I said?? Maybe you my friend need to go to high school to learn how to read others posts before coming to an assumption and I don't ever recall sending you a post at all. I never said any of those things for an example "Do you really believe wolves were never here before the white man" Huh???? What are you talking about.
@ShannonMcNab lmao, I will, nice knowing that you got beat by a student probably younger than you because your facts are crap and the only thing you can do is call me a hypocrit which makes no sense and tell other people useless stuff.
Anti hunters crack me up. I spend at least 10k per year on improving habitat, and making sure we have huntable herds of Elk, Deer, Moose, Wolves, etc. If it were not for hunters and our resources, in today's world, there would not be any Big Game for you guys to photograph, which I also love to do.
Stalked by a pack of barking, howling, moaning wolves??? Really??? From 200 yards away??? Thanks for the laugh!!! Jesus! I can't stop laughing, my gut hurts. Good luck hunting and don't shoot each other.
@highcountryhal I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know if I'm going to be stalked by a pack of blood thirsty wolves, they're not likely going to be barking, howling or moaning. Let me put this in perspective for you. When you're out hunting for say... deer. Are you having a loud conversation with your buddies while stalking it?
@neighborator Thats what they do. Must be something with confusing the animals they hunt. I am not saying these guys were being stalked for food, but who knows? A curious 100 pound wolf 50 (or 200) yards away is not something you think nothing about. Since I live out here, I would much rather see an elk in my neighbors freezer than in a wolfs belly any day.
So, by your "kill what you eat" rant is it safe to assume you would eat the wolves you kill? If not, your just doing it for the fun of it! For someone that claims to be part of the natural world your really out of balance. Do you realize the negative perceptions of hunters and other natural predators you've reinforced in public opinion?
Lmao, the idiocracy begins. Hunting is fine but only when it is used for purpose. FYI- 98% of mankind's clothing, food and shelter come from Agriculture now. Oh and for the facts about wolves being hurtful; how have they kept the ecosystem thriving but endangered, the ecosystem collapsed? Hmmm...its like it was necessary.
Unless you eat the meat and use everything you kill without greed then by all means hunt. But I bet 85% of hunters do it for sport. Check yourself before you wreck yourself
@tyler98621 clothing??? what agriculture do you know that makes clothing barley and oats or maybe wheat?? Unless your implying about a cotton field but thats been going for years and years but have you forgotten that 2nd and 3rd world country's are still using fur because they can't grow cotton little lone a wheat field. Russia uses fur for there hats and coats or what about Alaska. Use that noodle god gave you as a brain and think before you talk moron.
1. Agriculture makes nylon, polyster and cotton. It even makes fur. If you were educated you would know there are farms around America and the world (even 3rd world) that have domesticated fur animals for that use along with their meat. Thats called using the body efficiently unlike hunting in AMERICA.
2. Alaska has major clothing companies like PacSun, Macy's, Hollister and more. All of which use cotton, polyester, or nylon/ a blend. those that don;t have domesticated fur farms
@tyler98621 Polyester, Nylon that's made out of agriculture??? Fur is from agriculture You know there a difference between an animal farm and agriculture. Agriculture is crop animal farm is that a animal farm. Why do people call a dairy farm a dairy farm and not a agricultural farm perhaps because there's dairy. Polyester is man made like nylon those are man made textiles unlike cotton. You should have learned that in science class if you went to school I'm sure.
@tyler98621 Since when do you know that Inuit in Alaska go to Macy's clothing store's lol. I'm sure that Alaska has clothing stores but there are places that don't have city's and towns with clothing stores and to get anywhere would require a lot of travel such as Alaska most travel is airplane travel because of there being so much water around there. Don't get me wrong there are roads but it takes long to get to point A to B v.s a boat or flying. Read about it.
@ShannonMcNab you are the single dumbest POS ever. I like your youtube history. It is the epitome of white trash. Quit watching fake wrestling, Nascar, and humping your sister long enough to READ a book or two. Before calling someone an "inbasul" you should make sure you are spelling it correctly (imbecile). You are a stupid illiterate fck!
@salmonrafter Hey Beefeater cause thats what you like isn't it and I don't mean the cow.It's not my fault I fucked the shit out of your sister, well your mom was licking my balls. I feel some tension coming from your end what is it?? Too much rod from the old man is getting you down. If I wanted your opinion I'd tell you to drop to your knees like like the bitch you are and give me your opinion.
@tyler98621 Another place is in Canada at Inuvuk they only get food and stuff during the winter from semi's on the ice roads because the whole place is surrounded by water for the rest of the year and it's too expensive to send cargo planes over there. It's not cost effective. So they have to rely on fur trading and hunting. they don't have access to cotton t.shirts,Ect as easily as people like us do. they don't have much for roads most travel in the winter is by ski-doo
Agriculture defined is ANYTHING to do with the PRODUCTION AND MANAGEMENT of plants and animals for the USE of people. I mean that's common sense. forestry is even considered agriculture by the EPA and USDA. Like I said I know what agriculture is, clearly your information on that basic key part of society is skewed. So making "farms" for fur is considered by law, government, society and regulation Agriculture!
@tyler98621 Definition of Agriculture -The science, art and business of cultivating soil, producing crops and raising livestock farming
Definition of Nylon- thermoplastic silky material
Definition of Polyester- made of thermoplastic or thermoset
neither one are from agriculture
As far as Alaska I would know more than you about that area because I'm only 4hrs away from there. Over half the population are native and stick with traditional means of survival. SarahPallin are u kidding me
@tyler98621 I didn't use wikipedia but obviously you checked into it cause you where uncertain about what your talking about good to hear that you know shit.
@ShannonMcNab No, I looked it up to see where you got it to assure you. Now that is typed into google, but when you click on where that defintion comes from, its from Wikipedia. Another thing learned is called citing. Try websters or reading the article that definition came from.
And why argue with me? If I said hunting is fine for use and not sport isn't that true? All the uses you put for hunting are necesities. Which I stated was good. I said HUNTING FOR SPORT IS STUPID
@ShannonMcNab No, I looked it up to see where you got it to assure you. Now that is typed into google, but when you click on where that defintion comes from, its from Wikipedia. Another thing learned is called citing. Try websters or reading the article that definition came from.
And why argue with me? If I said hunting is fine for use and not sport isn't that true? All the uses you put for hunting are necesities. Which I stated was good. I said HUNTING FOR SPORT IS STUPID
@ShannonMcNab So all the facts you used are null and void. So if you support hunting for a sport which as I stated harms the the ecology then tell me how that is justified?
@tyler98621 And I STATED TO YOU THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO CONTROL THE WOLF POPULATION BECAUSE IT HARMS ECOLOGY OF OTHER ANIMALS.
Your exact words where that an over populated wolf population can co-exist with deer,elk and other species of wildlife but now your talking about hunting for sport is ruining ecology but the wolves are not. Your a hypocrite always will be a hypocrite and I like how you keep changing the conversation. What you say is irrevlavant and no-one cares especially me.
@ShannonMcNab You are such an idiot it amuses me. Everything I said is no change. Its all revelant to the topic. I stated to you because your facts were incorrect. A wolf does not kill 100 deer. If that were true then central and northern US states would have been done with deer. I stated to you from the beginning it isn't right to kill animals but I kept stressing for game, the history I used involved game, the facts involved hunting for game. I am not a hypocrit, you just can't understand sir
@ShannonMcNab So please justify hunting for sport if it proves no necessity? Because arguing with me shows you support hunting for the sport or the elk and deer population which as I have already explained is irrelevant and has been also proven void.
I'm not a tree hugger, I'm not a vegetarian, I am not one sided. I am a realist; or a realistic person. Trends show hunting for sport can prove fatal and many hunt for sport. Do the analysis and get back to me
@tyler98621 I'm not a tree hugger or vegetarian, I don't take long strolls on the beach or eat granola in the hockey rink, I don't take shit from a creep nor care what you think I AM CANADIAN
@ShannonMcNab haha the funny thing is people view this and side with me on this. Face it, your facts don't add up, your argument is poor; and the only way you can do anything is call me names like the average 14 year old girl you are. So get a good argument and get back. Also if you are from Canada, why do you care about Idaho? Also that is sad. I had more hope for Canada. Please don't tell me you are from Quebec, the French language and atmosphere there is beautiful and you seem trashy
I am going for a major in agriculture...are you? No...then shut up. What do those come from? Raw materials= agriculture. we don't go boom there it is. Check yourself before you wreck yourself
I don't need to call you names. But since you don't live in Alaska, shut it. I know people who LIVE IN Alaska, not near, but in.
Lastly think about a chain of ecosystem and what we do compared to hunting. My opinion is if its not used for need or use, then hunting is stupid and has no point
@ShannonMcNab Second, in the FFA we have a national convention and students from Alaska were wearing brand name clothes and told us all about the whole sterotype Sarah Palin thing about hunting for life was far from the truth. Yes their malls are further but they are not dependent on hunting; more on agrciulture
And once again Idaho is American. Canada has very few endangered species. Why? Because their people understand life.
@ShannonMcNab Lastly hunting is also considered by definition and job sector defintion as agriculture; so please check yourself
Lastly I DO NOT OPPOSE HUNTING!
- I oppose the idiots who hunt only for game and greed and a trophy rather than food or clothing. But in Idaho or central america where most people don't wear fur and eat cow meat a lot more than wolf or deer meat and just kill to mount a head on their wall is stupidity. that is how wolves, bears, hawks, etc... became endangered.
@ShannonMcNab oh and just as a side note. The things that go into polyester and nylon are from raw material produced by agriculture. Agriculture is not just Farmer Joe in the corn field. Go loo up examples and definitions of agriculture. The polymers came from raw materials. You should have learned at least that in science. Please don't try to correct me.
My point was hunting is stupid when it is only for sport. That is how ecosystems end up becoming ruined by people. that or we just pollute
3. Most third world Asian countries use only cotton and silk. South American is known little for fur but for wool.
4. I am NOT OPPOSED TO HUNTING! Maybe if you read and used "that noodle god gave you as a brain ." You would see that. Hunting in those developing (they aren't called 2nd idiot) and 3rd world do hunting in moderation. But in America where people are greedy and most hunters are oblivious and break bag limit, hurt it.
Funny how the camera turns off right before they attack! You must have survived just long enough to post the video documentary of your harrowing trial.
You have got to be kidding me! "Get that rifle ready?" More like get that camera out! No one I repeat no one has ever been killed in Idaho by wolves in its history as a state. I can't believe two awesome hunters such as yourselves would be so scared. I see wolves and elk all the time at my cabin on the Selway River. I've killed a dozen or so elk myself. Wolves and elk coexisted for eons before white men ever came along. Grow up and learn to hunt better!
@salmonrafter I don't know what fairytale your living in where Elk and Wolves co-exist but your no hunter if the wolf population explodes you will and I repeat you will never see an elk or deer in that area ever till the wolf population goes down. I laugh at you how many men kill 1000 wolves? you take those 1000 wolves multiply by 100 that's how much they eat per year those 1000 wolves your talking about.You say that the meat is wasted talk to trappers that use that meat for traps
@salmonrafter When the food source runs out those same wolves you adore will be snacking on each other. It's called control the numbers. Even if a wolf call needs to be done to prevent elk deer ECT for being totally extinct. It's assholes like you that will end bitching about "what do we do now" but now might be too late.When the food sources run out wolves will eat each other to extinction. If you don't believe that than your an inbasul
That equals to 8-9 kills a month for one wolf. One guy hunting a deer or elk lasts him and his family 6 months due the calculations before you judge hunters tree hugging gronola munchers
@ShannonMcNab Out of all the hunters I meet, nearly none of them use the meat but love the game. That is what the real enviornmentalists are saying. No one holds true to that. Why have Native Americans done well? Because they knew moderation and worked for not against the ecosystem
Wolves = Bad Hunting Trip. People opposed to hunting think about it like this 1 wolf eats 100 deer per year so imagine how many one wolf pack eats in a year. I could shoot those basterds all day and night and sleep good knowing I just save a 100 deer or elk per wolf.
@ShannonMcNab and man kills over 1,000 wolves a month, wolves become extremely endangered. Man hunts lbobcats- oh wow they also are pushed. oh and buffalo, how great was that? Haha seriously check yourself. And why has it worked well in the past and not now. Oh wait the answer is stupdity
well anyone who has come face to face with an adult grey (timber) wolf has never felt the fear that they put into you with just a stare... I have. though by its self it didnt attack me thank god, it was enough for me to not go in the woods without one
Some of these responses to my video crack me up. I think it must be the younger folks making all the threats since they've been most exposed to the anti-hunting propaganda out there. However if it makes you feel better I volunteer at a local animal shelter, I own 5 pets that are spoiled rotten and yes I'm a hunter. Wow are you confused yet? I have a good friend that has a pet deer but we also hunt deer. I love wild animals and still I kill them. Figure that one out. It's called reality.
Hey bro - there are a few of us who, have also been stalked by wolves and we know what your at. Keep up the truth, in the end that is all that matters!
If you want to get at the meat of the issue its a - here is the a-bomb of mother truths- agenda of the Illuminati. Yep, sorry to spoil any illusions but Lucifer/Satan have their children too and the damn reason why wolves have been painted as "natures protectors" is by this very clever group. -Wolves are their MO
@Crazymoose112 Had a similar experience with elk creek outfitters in the Frank Church two years ago. Lone scout wolf found our camp, and told the others. We were howled at, barked at, and stalked for 8 days. Never felt so low on the food chain as I did then. No fear of humans was what I found really disturbing, as most coyotes or bears will run from you. However, this small pack had no problem coming just yards from us. I am also an animal lover/hunter, and folks just don't get that :)
oh so your jealous of the wolf being a killing machine and taking away your so called fun . wolves are susceptible to disease and the natural die off and environment like any other animal in IT'S NATURAL SURROUNDING's! And as far as these wolves stalking you ! Why would they give up there position if they planned on trying to make you food? why dont you study the species before your so quick to pull the trigger.
Wolves certainly are not crucial to our ecosystem in the lower 48. We have bears, cougars, and man to do that. We never wanted them, but now that they are here they will be controlled one way or another.
Wolves have been on this planet for years and evolved with the environment to be a crucial part of the ecosystem. It is humans, climate change, and shrinking of natural resources that should be blamed for destroying the population of certain species, deer, moose, etc. Mankind has made the world unbalanced, not wolves. Fearing them and blaming them will only lead to their destruction. Why does it take a "list" or categorized as "endangered" for an animal to be given the right to live free?
I'm an avid hunter and I'm not against the wolf hunt by any means. But, you guys were not being stalked by wolves and you were not in danger. Easy for me to say since I wasn't there I know but c'mon get serious. You split the group up and they were trying to get back together, they talk to each other like that when they want to rejoin. They just didn't know what the hell you were. Why would they give up there position if they planned on trying to make you food?
Crazymoose112 very well said. I give you props for still trying to educate ppl on this subject cuz ive long ago given up. If you're so unintelligent to not understand how life works then you're not worth my fuckin time. If it weren't for intelligent ppl taking care of you then you ignorant fucks would have been weeded out of nature a long time ago... Also on the wolf subject; doesnt it seem kinda strange our government would want an animal that depletes all of our natural food sources?? hmmm.
These people who love these killer animals have never set foot in Idaho, they will never know what the wolves and tree hugger has done to destroy such a beautiful place and kill off such majestic animals such as elk and mule deer. But they will never know because they don't live here!
@1974backwoods Did you know that majority oh elk and mule deer were actually endangered by human errors such as urbanization and pollution? Oh; you didn't oops...awkward.
Hunting is necessary but only in moderization but most hunters fuck that up.
You want to see more deer and elk? Oppose farmers killing them, urbanization, and factories
So kill all these ones and restart with the native species of grey wolf not the non-native canadian grey wolf and yes there is a big difference look it up. Idaho fish and game's website says the biggest males will weigh 110 pounds tops when in fact there are more than 100 accounts of wolves weighing 150+ pounds, our wolf situation was damn near declared a disaster by our governer, it was also declared a failure and a mistake so arguing is pointless because the debate is done and hunting is on.
@condemnedfoot So long as the wolf advocate groups continue to get millions in funding from our tax dollars the argument will never be done. They aren't in this for the wolves or for wildlife, they're in it for the money plain and simple. Cut off their federal funding, then the argument will end.
@illadvised000 Wow looks like we have another adolf hitler right here sick bastard. Why don't you go camping with your family and little kids come face to face with a pack of wolves. I would rather run into bear or mtn. Lions than wolves.
Also ALL ANIMALS CARRY DISEASES not just one and disease is not the problem right now our wolves are in fact killing for sport and that has already been proven and that is my problem. Our deer where I live did in fact become over populated and disease did spread so I was glad to see wolves introduced but not when I found out they came from canada, they should have used smaller ones to begin with and in less numbers, now there is a bigger mess than before, nature always finds a way on it's own.
I will agree that managing needs to be done and like you say responsibly, I am not for poaching or over hunting but I am for hunting and I for one use all but the bones, but the wolves here are worse than our poachers so firstly something needs done about the wolves and then the poachers. If they were the native species that maxed at around 110 pounds they would not be as bad at all but I have seen with my own eyes a wolf shot here that weighed 193 pounds (guts included) that's way too damn big
The wolves need to be managed. There is no doubt about that because if you manage predators and not prey, there are too many predators and a huge lack of prey. The thing is, there is a huge lack of sportsmanship where these hunters are hunting the wolves for no reason. The pelt is of virtually no use to them, they wont eat the meat, they are killing just to kill. Thats not being an outdoorsman, that is just a lack of respect. Manage the wolves, but at least be an outdoorsman about it.
For everyone still reading, in 2009 Idaho fish and game did an estimation of how many wolves we had they came up with 846 when they were asked to do the same expirement again because they were accused of being wrong they came up with a close actual number of almost 4,000, that was 3 years ago there are way more now, the government has already said there experement was a failure it's on multiple websites and the main fish and game one for idaho. Proof is there that is why it's legal to hunt them.
Also there were already wolves migrating here on there own before we introduced more. So nature was already doing it's own thing and we just had to mess with it.
@condemnedfoot Not all of your elk. All elk carry brucellosis. Besides, the elk get closer to your livestock than wolves do to transmit diseases. Would you love the wolves if they were the wolves native to Idaho? I didnt think so.
@khingila Where do you live kansas or something? You have no idea what happens here much like I don't know anything that happens where you live, hence why I am not arguing about something I know nothing of.
Oh and now they refilled that same reservoir and are trying again, tell me what's going to happen this time? More research? Maybe I'll be the one researching it killing thousands in the process but this time you'll respect me. Wow you really know your facts don't you? Like I have state numerous times, until you have seen the damage done shut the hell up because you don't know anything but what you are told. I know these facts because I fish it every year, except the ones while it was drained.
That resulted in a waste of 10 years and over 300,000 cutthroats! I catch maybe 30 fish a year total and I'm the murderer? Yea that makes total sense. They call it research when that happens and I get labeled a murderer. Ok so I'm going to start working for the government and then hunt more than I need and not eat any of the meat I harvest and then you'll respect me because it's called research? Ok sure thing boss.
How can you not see what's happening? There are a number of accounts where fish and game have messed up by introducing the wrong animal. Like there is a lake by where I live where they were trying to save the cutthroats by secluding them in a body of water, well after a while they tried to save another species so they introduced them with the cutthroats the other fish killed of most of the cutthroats within 3 years after that they drained the resevoir killing all the fish in it.
Instead of them fixing it they are only making matters worse, do you understand or are you going to continue arguing a point that has been proven wrong time and time again? Hunting has never been proven wrong it has only been thought to be wrong by people who are to caught up in todays modern society to know anything.
The point is they put the wrong fucking animal here and it does not belong here. Humans have messed up in the past and will continue to do so yes, but fish and game have also messed up by introducing the wrong animals in certains spots just like the rainbow trout killing off the cutthroats now they are trying to reverse the harm they have caused to the native species, so our government has, is and will continue screwing up, what needs to be done is they need to stop playing god and leave it be.
You need to realize that you are sticking up for an animal that is non-native and does not belong here at all, just because humans fucked up in the past does not mean I get to have the reprocutions forced upon me or my family by some stupid group of people trying to change the past and play god by reintroducing a non-native species here. We pulled people from africa for slaves yes bad juju but you don't see me trying to put europeans in africa now do you?
Hinting towards natives, they do and have done it like that for years, years and years before we came along. So despite what I have done or will do natives have done it longer than you or you mom or dad or there mom or dad have been around so the point still stands valid, hunting is part of life and will be foreveor despite what you think you know.
@condemnedfoot ok, you seem to be a little slow on the uptake, so the point is that it does not make any fucking difference how long anybody has been doing anything...people burned witches and sacrificed children and owned slaves for thousands of years and eventually (most of them, anyway) figured out that having done something harmful and stupid and cruel doesn't justify continuing to do it, no matter how long you've been doing it. if people want to hunt for food, great! go to it!
@condemnedfoot but human beings fucked up the northern rockies ecosystem by killing off the predators and introducing livestock and themselves, and all your ridiculous crabbing about a fraction of the natural population of wolves killing off all the cervidae doesn't justify trapping and killing wolves. you want to kill them because it makes you feel like a big man and/or you're afraid of them. trying to justify it as 'traditional' or 'necessary' is just bullshit.
It would not be hard to make a traditional long bow and I am sure that there are lots of people that do hunt with bows and arrows that they made, also they would not be tipped with a razor it would be quarts or some other rock that would hold and edge and the fletchings would be made of feather and that is not hard to do at all. Your argument falls short because it doesn't make any sense. Your point is mute mine is legit and will stand and more people see it my way than they do yours.
@khingila You are these stupid morons that I constantly speak of you are the reason society is collapsing because you think you know everythin because you looked it up on the internet when in reality the sources that you obtain this information is corrupt and incorrect also the fish and game numbers are only an average estimation. That's why I say until you live here and see for yourself then shut the hell up because you know not what you speak of, and your acting like a child. Grow up.
@khingila Who in there right mind wants to see there dog getting eaten by anything let alone record it and show it off too the world? I sure as hell don't want to be able to repeatedly watch my dog get eaten over and over again or have some stupid kid post dumb comments on it asking about proof or evidence, and why should he half to constantly watch his dog on his own property? If stupid people wouldn't have released these non-native wolves he wouldn't have these problems in the first place.
Oh and I hunt with a traditional long bow also and if you want I'll get a video of that because just so we are clear that has been around for a long time and it's natural and if it makes you feel better I'll dress in a deer skin coat (one of which was killed by me). Yep I'll just go pull the deer hide of my wall and put it on my back and go hunting just like I always do with a bow because that's just as rewarding. You good sir are a moron and it IS hilarious.
I'm gald I'm not the only one who has seen the damage they have done and for the person who lost there dog I am very sad to here and I recomend getting a gun because just the sound of my 9mm makarov scares them away enough to help a little. I have yet to kill a wolf but if they try to attack me or come close I have no problems doing so. I am getting my wolf permit and dampening there population because I like to see animals close to my house not just blood everywhere. The hunt will continue!
I am not a rancher or a hunter however I have seen thru my dinning room window the change in the game in the last few years. Where I have watched deer, elk, moose, and even the occasional bear in my pasture this year I have been watching and at night listening to a lone wolf. Today in my presence (just a few feet away) that lone wolf attacked and killed my dog. The attack happened at 12:35 pm in the afternoon. I was so close that I heard my dogs neck crack. The blood trail is 5' 7" from my door.
@1thebird1 that's a sad story, and if it's true, please accept my condolences...but how about some evidence? where's the video? who identified the killer as a wolf, and what was the i.d. based on? what kind of dog was it? if you have a problem with predators where you live, why was your dog outside unattended?
@khingila Those are not classified as predators. The fishing regulations in the South Fork of the Snake River were changed years ago to help remove the rainbow trout to preserve the native cutt throat trout.
Shit at this rate there's going to be an open season for peta members one day and I'll be ready to hunt them morons too. The truth is wolves are now fair game and my bullets will make a mark on the wolf population. Tough shit you ignorant idiots.
Also it doesn't matter because it's wolf season right now and I intend on bagging more than i need and I will put the videos on here and you'll watch and you'll complain and in the end I will be the one smiling :) DEATH TO THE WOLVES!
There are still elk but nowhere near the amount that was here, you people are so ignorant I can't wait until reality hits you right in the face and you'll think back to this minute argument and you'll feel like a moron haha just wait you'll see.
@condemnedfoot does it hurt to be so stupid? listening to your idiocy sure gives me a headache; i'll bet yours would hurt, too, if there was anything in it.
My backyard consists of the entire northern panhandle and there used to be a bunch of elk out here now it's only dead elk and wolves. I'm talking about you morons playing god. You know nothing until you see it. As far as humans hunting animals none of us would be alive at all if we didn't hunt, think about the cavemen and how we came to be. Hunting has been around since the begining of time human or animal everything hunts and I for one hunt to provide food.
@condemnedfoot You're right on! Hunting has taken place since the beginning of time. It's one of the most natural things us human animals could do. Too bad all these modern detached people don't realize how one of the basic elements of existence is life feeding on life. It starts with bugs and goes all the way up the chain to us humans. Sometimes gruesome yes, but a fact nonetheless. May the hunt continue!
@Crazymoose112 it's always hilarious when some pro-killing knucklehead drags out the 'hunting is natural...thousands of years!' argument. then you know for sure they got nuthin'! i'll take it seriously when you're taking on an elk with a folsom point you knapped yourself on the end of a spear, dressed in animal skins and cooking it over a fire.
@khingila Hunting for humans is just as natural as any predator hunting. We are a part of nature just as much as any other animal. You are a braindead retard if you think otherwise.
@condemnedfoot Sickening isn't it. Not one of these morons crying over the wolves sees what is actually happening. They don't have the facts, they only react to their own emotion. They are confused and misled by the lies and deceit from groups like Defenders of Wildlife.
@ruj1970 what are the facts? seriously, what are the facts? where's your evidence? i'm not talking about your biased perceptions filtered through your idiot perspective in the service of your tiny dick need to kill to feel better about yourself...what's your evidence?
@khingila Why don't you change your crappy channell back to the normal so I can send you a lengthy message and I will show you the facts. Something you wolf lovers obviously don't have or simply refuse to accept.
@khingila If you look at my channell there is a spot that says "send message". It is there where I can send a long message where your channell only can post a comment which has limited characters.
Stick with your average numbers instead of taking the word of people who actually live here, god you people are so ignorant and stupid. Hey here's an idea if any of you would like to come visit I will take you for a walk and prove it all to you in one day, that's all I need because when we come back you'll be looking for a gun to go shoot them yourself.
@condemnedfoot and of course the liberal media won't report all the wolf kills of human beings, because they want the wolves to KILL ALL THE WILDLIFE and TAKE OVER THE STATE of idaho, it's really the HUMANS that are endangered. you gotta get your story out there, man, keep shouting even when it seems like no one is listening, because people need to know that obama is giving the wolves ak47s and teaching them how to dress up like 7 year old kids.
Bet the elk hunting was shitty. In my experience, you see wolf sign or hear em, pack your shit and go somewhere else
FlyFisher1303 1 day ago
Doubt the wolves were trying to stalk or eat you. If you wanted a really close look at one tho, I'd tip one over for you. KBOOM!
KBOOM30cals 1 day ago
My friend hunts and the meat he brings back sucks. It is way to lean and kinda gamey. America used to be one big wilderness area but in modern times there is almost no wilderness left. We got only 5% virgin forest left in the country. That's whats gets me. Going into the few areas left where wild animals can be themselves and shooting them for fun is weird to me. You can't afford cheap meat from the discount store ?
flubno 3 days ago
@flubno the cycle of life has always been hunter & hunted. If you don't like the meat, that's your business, but many enjoy it. But what I enjoy more is knowing exactly how my food died. A quick death from a shot to the heart or lungs. Can animals be themselves packed into a pen where they can barely move? Is being hung upside down until your throat is slit a humane way to die? My meat comes from animals who have experienced freedom, and life. Not to mention I help control overpopulated species.
pcopp93 2 days ago
Being "pro" or "anti" hunting isn't the issue, the question is how much hunting is realistic so that people can remain a part of the natural world and not be a parasite in it. Have you contemplated your clothes, food, and medicines? Beyond asking you to question the nature of the system that provides them to you, I just ask you to realize that you have them. Wildlife does not. Your existence no longer hinges on your ability to hunt, therefore its entirely sport. Maybe take up photography?
Hibryd7 3 days ago
This past November me and my buddy went hunting. First day there we spotted fresh wolf tracks about 300 yds from camp. The tracks followed deer tracks, we never saw them but there were a couple of them howling at each other that day and night, possible they were scouts. Scary stuff man, we just had one 2 days ago here in the city.
oic415 3 days ago
Hunting for food is one thing, heck if your to poor to be able to afford food at a grocery store I get that, It's the hunters who believe the world is theirs for the taking that get my feathers ruffled (figuritively obviously). To shoot something like a wolf because you believe it's a nuisance then go home to your pet fido who is a far off distant relative of the species just confuses me. Hunting for food is alright by me, hunting for the sport is just stupid.
starkieable 3 days ago
why do humans have to get involved in an animals eco system? i really dont understand why we get involved. by doing so its like people are being nosy jews.
sparklerbombg 5 days ago
A wolf ate me once, but I got better!
hahaserta 5 days ago
are there actually any wolves in this video????....i fail to see any
halenizer5150 6 days ago
I'm getting a hunting license just so I can kill a wolf.
Randy182ish 6 days ago
You should have stalked them and shot them!!!
ruj1970 1 week ago
I wonder how many peoples dogs are going to get shot because they ran in a distance close enough to be mistaken for a wolf...
trec2224 1 week ago
Wow i had to laugh at this video and all of the responses. These wolves are not stalking you, just because your afraid of them and hear stories about rabid wolves doesn't mean a pack of howling wolves in the distance is stalking you. Plus you cant hold the camera strait with those scared shaking hands haha.
trec2224 1 week ago
just remember SSS. Shoot - Shovel - Shut up. and if it has a radio collar, smash it to bits and bury it 3 feet deep first.
dbcoopercatcher 1 week ago
@dbcoopercatcher Awesome!!!
poldrag08 1 week ago
I live and work in the Canadian north and those wolves aren't stalking ya there bud. Just saying.
patboylan 1 week ago
I love killing wolves for f**k all...
ObeyTheOutdoors 2 weeks ago
Its from the movie INTO THE GREY lol o shit look out lol
suicide5389 2 weeks ago
@Shanon Mcnab-You are an embarrassment. I would be shocked if you have a high school diploma. Do you really believe wolves were never here before white men? Obviously elk and wolves lived here for centuries before Europeans. I never said anything about wasted meat. I don't know where you got that? Additionally I don't ADORE wolves. I could really care less I just find it funny how quickly you people are to blame the wolf for your problems.
salmonrafter 2 weeks ago
@salmonrafter Sorry Fuck nuts I've not even mentioned once in any of my posts about wasted meat. NOT ONCE where do you come up with the theory that's what I said?? Maybe you my friend need to go to high school to learn how to read others posts before coming to an assumption and I don't ever recall sending you a post at all. I never said any of those things for an example "Do you really believe wolves were never here before the white man" Huh???? What are you talking about.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
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ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab lmao, I will, nice knowing that you got beat by a student probably younger than you because your facts are crap and the only thing you can do is call me a hypocrit which makes no sense and tell other people useless stuff.
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
Anti hunters crack me up. I spend at least 10k per year on improving habitat, and making sure we have huntable herds of Elk, Deer, Moose, Wolves, etc. If it were not for hunters and our resources, in today's world, there would not be any Big Game for you guys to photograph, which I also love to do.
mradford12345 2 weeks ago
Stalked by a pack of barking, howling, moaning wolves??? Really??? From 200 yards away??? Thanks for the laugh!!! Jesus! I can't stop laughing, my gut hurts. Good luck hunting and don't shoot each other.
neighborator 2 weeks ago
@neighborator Moron. Go out there and have them stalk you if you think you are an expert bud.....
highcountryhal 2 days ago
@highcountryhal I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know if I'm going to be stalked by a pack of blood thirsty wolves, they're not likely going to be barking, howling or moaning. Let me put this in perspective for you. When you're out hunting for say... deer. Are you having a loud conversation with your buddies while stalking it?
neighborator 2 days ago
@neighborator Thats what they do. Must be something with confusing the animals they hunt. I am not saying these guys were being stalked for food, but who knows? A curious 100 pound wolf 50 (or 200) yards away is not something you think nothing about. Since I live out here, I would much rather see an elk in my neighbors freezer than in a wolfs belly any day.
highcountryhal 1 day ago
So, by your "kill what you eat" rant is it safe to assume you would eat the wolves you kill? If not, your just doing it for the fun of it! For someone that claims to be part of the natural world your really out of balance. Do you realize the negative perceptions of hunters and other natural predators you've reinforced in public opinion?
SandersWJ 2 weeks ago
@SandersWJ Someone finally knows the truth!
Thank YOU!!!!
Seriously all these hunters and wolfaboos are annoying
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888LICA 2 weeks ago
I extremely love wolves... And again... You fuckin hunter just hurt me again... Someday you all will see that wolves are amazing. Someday.
DeadWolfeee 3 weeks ago
@DeadWolfeee I hate wolves the only good wolf is a dead wolf Click Click BOOOM.:)
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
Lmao, the idiocracy begins. Hunting is fine but only when it is used for purpose. FYI- 98% of mankind's clothing, food and shelter come from Agriculture now. Oh and for the facts about wolves being hurtful; how have they kept the ecosystem thriving but endangered, the ecosystem collapsed? Hmmm...its like it was necessary.
Unless you eat the meat and use everything you kill without greed then by all means hunt. But I bet 85% of hunters do it for sport. Check yourself before you wreck yourself
tyler98621 3 weeks ago
@tyler98621 clothing??? what agriculture do you know that makes clothing barley and oats or maybe wheat?? Unless your implying about a cotton field but thats been going for years and years but have you forgotten that 2nd and 3rd world country's are still using fur because they can't grow cotton little lone a wheat field. Russia uses fur for there hats and coats or what about Alaska. Use that noodle god gave you as a brain and think before you talk moron.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab
1. Agriculture makes nylon, polyster and cotton. It even makes fur. If you were educated you would know there are farms around America and the world (even 3rd world) that have domesticated fur animals for that use along with their meat. Thats called using the body efficiently unlike hunting in AMERICA.
2. Alaska has major clothing companies like PacSun, Macy's, Hollister and more. All of which use cotton, polyester, or nylon/ a blend. those that don;t have domesticated fur farms
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 Polyester, Nylon that's made out of agriculture??? Fur is from agriculture You know there a difference between an animal farm and agriculture. Agriculture is crop animal farm is that a animal farm. Why do people call a dairy farm a dairy farm and not a agricultural farm perhaps because there's dairy. Polyester is man made like nylon those are man made textiles unlike cotton. You should have learned that in science class if you went to school I'm sure.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 Since when do you know that Inuit in Alaska go to Macy's clothing store's lol. I'm sure that Alaska has clothing stores but there are places that don't have city's and towns with clothing stores and to get anywhere would require a lot of travel such as Alaska most travel is airplane travel because of there being so much water around there. Don't get me wrong there are roads but it takes long to get to point A to B v.s a boat or flying. Read about it.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab you are the single dumbest POS ever. I like your youtube history. It is the epitome of white trash. Quit watching fake wrestling, Nascar, and humping your sister long enough to READ a book or two. Before calling someone an "inbasul" you should make sure you are spelling it correctly (imbecile). You are a stupid illiterate fck!
salmonrafter 2 weeks ago
@salmonrafter Hey Beefeater cause thats what you like isn't it and I don't mean the cow.It's not my fault I fucked the shit out of your sister, well your mom was licking my balls. I feel some tension coming from your end what is it?? Too much rod from the old man is getting you down. If I wanted your opinion I'd tell you to drop to your knees like like the bitch you are and give me your opinion.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 Another place is in Canada at Inuvuk they only get food and stuff during the winter from semi's on the ice roads because the whole place is surrounded by water for the rest of the year and it's too expensive to send cargo planes over there. It's not cost effective. So they have to rely on fur trading and hunting. they don't have access to cotton t.shirts,Ect as easily as people like us do. they don't have much for roads most travel in the winter is by ski-doo
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab
Let me put this real slow and easy.
A dairy farm is agriculture.
Agriculture defined is ANYTHING to do with the PRODUCTION AND MANAGEMENT of plants and animals for the USE of people. I mean that's common sense. forestry is even considered agriculture by the EPA and USDA. Like I said I know what agriculture is, clearly your information on that basic key part of society is skewed. So making "farms" for fur is considered by law, government, society and regulation Agriculture!
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 Definition of Agriculture -The science, art and business of cultivating soil, producing crops and raising livestock farming
Definition of Nylon- thermoplastic silky material
Definition of Polyester- made of thermoplastic or thermoset
neither one are from agriculture
As far as Alaska I would know more than you about that area because I'm only 4hrs away from there. Over half the population are native and stick with traditional means of survival. SarahPallin are u kidding me
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab and who the hell uses wikipedia as a valid source? Also if you read the full article, my definition makes more sense
Derp!
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 I didn't use wikipedia but obviously you checked into it cause you where uncertain about what your talking about good to hear that you know shit.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab No, I looked it up to see where you got it to assure you. Now that is typed into google, but when you click on where that defintion comes from, its from Wikipedia. Another thing learned is called citing. Try websters or reading the article that definition came from.
And why argue with me? If I said hunting is fine for use and not sport isn't that true? All the uses you put for hunting are necesities. Which I stated was good. I said HUNTING FOR SPORT IS STUPID
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab No, I looked it up to see where you got it to assure you. Now that is typed into google, but when you click on where that defintion comes from, its from Wikipedia. Another thing learned is called citing. Try websters or reading the article that definition came from.
And why argue with me? If I said hunting is fine for use and not sport isn't that true? All the uses you put for hunting are necesities. Which I stated was good. I said HUNTING FOR SPORT IS STUPID
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab So all the facts you used are null and void. So if you support hunting for a sport which as I stated harms the the ecology then tell me how that is justified?
But you can't can you?
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 And I STATED TO YOU THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO CONTROL THE WOLF POPULATION BECAUSE IT HARMS ECOLOGY OF OTHER ANIMALS.
Your exact words where that an over populated wolf population can co-exist with deer,elk and other species of wildlife but now your talking about hunting for sport is ruining ecology but the wolves are not. Your a hypocrite always will be a hypocrite and I like how you keep changing the conversation. What you say is irrevlavant and no-one cares especially me.
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab You are such an idiot it amuses me. Everything I said is no change. Its all revelant to the topic. I stated to you because your facts were incorrect. A wolf does not kill 100 deer. If that were true then central and northern US states would have been done with deer. I stated to you from the beginning it isn't right to kill animals but I kept stressing for game, the history I used involved game, the facts involved hunting for game. I am not a hypocrit, you just can't understand sir
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
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ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab So please justify hunting for sport if it proves no necessity? Because arguing with me shows you support hunting for the sport or the elk and deer population which as I have already explained is irrelevant and has been also proven void.
I'm not a tree hugger, I'm not a vegetarian, I am not one sided. I am a realist; or a realistic person. Trends show hunting for sport can prove fatal and many hunt for sport. Do the analysis and get back to me
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 I'm not a tree hugger or vegetarian, I don't take long strolls on the beach or eat granola in the hockey rink, I don't take shit from a creep nor care what you think I AM CANADIAN
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ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab haha the funny thing is people view this and side with me on this. Face it, your facts don't add up, your argument is poor; and the only way you can do anything is call me names like the average 14 year old girl you are. So get a good argument and get back. Also if you are from Canada, why do you care about Idaho? Also that is sad. I had more hope for Canada. Please don't tell me you are from Quebec, the French language and atmosphere there is beautiful and you seem trashy
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
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ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@tyler98621 Anyway wtf does this have to do with the wolf population anyway fuck head
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab
I am going for a major in agriculture...are you? No...then shut up. What do those come from? Raw materials= agriculture. we don't go boom there it is. Check yourself before you wreck yourself
I don't need to call you names. But since you don't live in Alaska, shut it. I know people who LIVE IN Alaska, not near, but in.
Lastly think about a chain of ecosystem and what we do compared to hunting. My opinion is if its not used for need or use, then hunting is stupid and has no point
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab Second, in the FFA we have a national convention and students from Alaska were wearing brand name clothes and told us all about the whole sterotype Sarah Palin thing about hunting for life was far from the truth. Yes their malls are further but they are not dependent on hunting; more on agrciulture
And once again Idaho is American. Canada has very few endangered species. Why? Because their people understand life.
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab Lastly hunting is also considered by definition and job sector defintion as agriculture; so please check yourself
Lastly I DO NOT OPPOSE HUNTING!
- I oppose the idiots who hunt only for game and greed and a trophy rather than food or clothing. But in Idaho or central america where most people don't wear fur and eat cow meat a lot more than wolf or deer meat and just kill to mount a head on their wall is stupidity. that is how wolves, bears, hawks, etc... became endangered.
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab oh and just as a side note. The things that go into polyester and nylon are from raw material produced by agriculture. Agriculture is not just Farmer Joe in the corn field. Go loo up examples and definitions of agriculture. The polymers came from raw materials. You should have learned at least that in science. Please don't try to correct me.
My point was hunting is stupid when it is only for sport. That is how ecosystems end up becoming ruined by people. that or we just pollute
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab
3. Most third world Asian countries use only cotton and silk. South American is known little for fur but for wool.
4. I am NOT OPPOSED TO HUNTING! Maybe if you read and used "that noodle god gave you as a brain ." You would see that. Hunting in those developing (they aren't called 2nd idiot) and 3rd world do hunting in moderation. But in America where people are greedy and most hunters are oblivious and break bag limit, hurt it.
My source: FFA, Agriculture,animal science major.
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
Ya wolves always howl before the attack! Very sneaky like that.
fishhuntkill 3 weeks ago
That's awesome! I'm plannin to go wolf hunting next weekend. Where were you guys when this happened? I'd love to try that area!
homeschoollventures 3 weeks ago
Funny how the camera turns off right before they attack! You must have survived just long enough to post the video documentary of your harrowing trial.
salmonrafter 3 weeks ago
You have got to be kidding me! "Get that rifle ready?" More like get that camera out! No one I repeat no one has ever been killed in Idaho by wolves in its history as a state. I can't believe two awesome hunters such as yourselves would be so scared. I see wolves and elk all the time at my cabin on the Selway River. I've killed a dozen or so elk myself. Wolves and elk coexisted for eons before white men ever came along. Grow up and learn to hunt better!
salmonrafter 3 weeks ago 2
@salmonrafter I don't know what fairytale your living in where Elk and Wolves co-exist but your no hunter if the wolf population explodes you will and I repeat you will never see an elk or deer in that area ever till the wolf population goes down. I laugh at you how many men kill 1000 wolves? you take those 1000 wolves multiply by 100 that's how much they eat per year those 1000 wolves your talking about.You say that the meat is wasted talk to trappers that use that meat for traps
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
@salmonrafter When the food source runs out those same wolves you adore will be snacking on each other. It's called control the numbers. Even if a wolf call needs to be done to prevent elk deer ECT for being totally extinct. It's assholes like you that will end bitching about "what do we do now" but now might be too late.When the food sources run out wolves will eat each other to extinction. If you don't believe that than your an inbasul
ShannonMcNab 2 weeks ago
That equals to 8-9 kills a month for one wolf. One guy hunting a deer or elk lasts him and his family 6 months due the calculations before you judge hunters tree hugging gronola munchers
ShannonMcNab 3 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab Out of all the hunters I meet, nearly none of them use the meat but love the game. That is what the real enviornmentalists are saying. No one holds true to that. Why have Native Americans done well? Because they knew moderation and worked for not against the ecosystem
tyler98621 3 weeks ago
@ShannonMcNab haha, too bad most hunters hunt for game and how much I an kill, not how much I need.
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
Wolves = Bad Hunting Trip. People opposed to hunting think about it like this 1 wolf eats 100 deer per year so imagine how many one wolf pack eats in a year. I could shoot those basterds all day and night and sleep good knowing I just save a 100 deer or elk per wolf.
ShannonMcNab 3 weeks ago 2
@ShannonMcNab and man kills over 1,000 wolves a month, wolves become extremely endangered. Man hunts lbobcats- oh wow they also are pushed. oh and buffalo, how great was that? Haha seriously check yourself. And why has it worked well in the past and not now. Oh wait the answer is stupdity
tyler98621 3 weeks ago
well anyone who has come face to face with an adult grey (timber) wolf has never felt the fear that they put into you with just a stare... I have. though by its self it didnt attack me thank god, it was enough for me to not go in the woods without one
alivieri 3 weeks ago
Some of these responses to my video crack me up. I think it must be the younger folks making all the threats since they've been most exposed to the anti-hunting propaganda out there. However if it makes you feel better I volunteer at a local animal shelter, I own 5 pets that are spoiled rotten and yes I'm a hunter. Wow are you confused yet? I have a good friend that has a pet deer but we also hunt deer. I love wild animals and still I kill them. Figure that one out. It's called reality.
Crazymoose112 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 13
@Crazymoose112
Hey bro - there are a few of us who, have also been stalked by wolves and we know what your at. Keep up the truth, in the end that is all that matters!
If you want to get at the meat of the issue its a - here is the a-bomb of mother truths- agenda of the Illuminati. Yep, sorry to spoil any illusions but Lucifer/Satan have their children too and the damn reason why wolves have been painted as "natures protectors" is by this very clever group. -Wolves are their MO
Matthalamew 2 weeks ago
@Crazymoose112
But here is the question I pose to you:
Do you hunt for the sport or the need?
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
@Crazymoose112 Had a similar experience with elk creek outfitters in the Frank Church two years ago. Lone scout wolf found our camp, and told the others. We were howled at, barked at, and stalked for 8 days. Never felt so low on the food chain as I did then. No fear of humans was what I found really disturbing, as most coyotes or bears will run from you. However, this small pack had no problem coming just yards from us. I am also an animal lover/hunter, and folks just don't get that :)
Tater79bj 2 weeks ago
@Crazymoose112 it's simple. hunters see the world as it is, not as they wish it were.
dbcoopercatcher 1 week ago 5
oh my god man you are living the life out there luckly we have huge monster bucks where i go hunting we also have nilgi and other big game
TheSharpshooter224 1 month ago
oh so your jealous of the wolf being a killing machine and taking away your so called fun . wolves are susceptible to disease and the natural die off and environment like any other animal in IT'S NATURAL SURROUNDING's! And as far as these wolves stalking you ! Why would they give up there position if they planned on trying to make you food? why dont you study the species before your so quick to pull the trigger.
brownster5 1 month ago
@brownster5 I agree completely.
TheForeverHazel 4 weeks ago
Wolves certainly are not crucial to our ecosystem in the lower 48. We have bears, cougars, and man to do that. We never wanted them, but now that they are here they will be controlled one way or another.
highcountryhal 1 month ago 5
Wolves have been on this planet for years and evolved with the environment to be a crucial part of the ecosystem. It is humans, climate change, and shrinking of natural resources that should be blamed for destroying the population of certain species, deer, moose, etc. Mankind has made the world unbalanced, not wolves. Fearing them and blaming them will only lead to their destruction. Why does it take a "list" or categorized as "endangered" for an animal to be given the right to live free?
Nakmuay1579 1 month ago
@Nakmuay1579 You are right, do away with the ESA, we don't need it.
ruj1970 1 month ago
I'm an avid hunter and I'm not against the wolf hunt by any means. But, you guys were not being stalked by wolves and you were not in danger. Easy for me to say since I wasn't there I know but c'mon get serious. You split the group up and they were trying to get back together, they talk to each other like that when they want to rejoin. They just didn't know what the hell you were. Why would they give up there position if they planned on trying to make you food?
rcran910 1 month ago
Crazymoose112 very well said. I give you props for still trying to educate ppl on this subject cuz ive long ago given up. If you're so unintelligent to not understand how life works then you're not worth my fuckin time. If it weren't for intelligent ppl taking care of you then you ignorant fucks would have been weeded out of nature a long time ago... Also on the wolf subject; doesnt it seem kinda strange our government would want an animal that depletes all of our natural food sources?? hmmm.
lesrach3 1 month ago
The Grey....
TheChainsawArtist 1 month ago
that howl just sets me off, id be scared shitless if i was there
NathansBackwoods 1 month ago
These people who love these killer animals have never set foot in Idaho, they will never know what the wolves and tree hugger has done to destroy such a beautiful place and kill off such majestic animals such as elk and mule deer. But they will never know because they don't live here!
1974backwoods 1 month ago
@1974backwoods Did you know that majority oh elk and mule deer were actually endangered by human errors such as urbanization and pollution? Oh; you didn't oops...awkward.
Hunting is necessary but only in moderization but most hunters fuck that up.
You want to see more deer and elk? Oppose farmers killing them, urbanization, and factories
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
I've had a similar thing happen with a dingo before.
Meerkatmatt2 1 month ago
So kill all these ones and restart with the native species of grey wolf not the non-native canadian grey wolf and yes there is a big difference look it up. Idaho fish and game's website says the biggest males will weigh 110 pounds tops when in fact there are more than 100 accounts of wolves weighing 150+ pounds, our wolf situation was damn near declared a disaster by our governer, it was also declared a failure and a mistake so arguing is pointless because the debate is done and hunting is on.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot kill! kill! kill! for inner peace and mental health!
khingila 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot So long as the wolf advocate groups continue to get millions in funding from our tax dollars the argument will never be done. They aren't in this for the wolves or for wildlife, they're in it for the money plain and simple. Cut off their federal funding, then the argument will end.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 i wish those wolves killed those vermin hunters. the only good hunter is a gut shot one!
illadvised000 1 month ago
@illadvised000 Wow looks like we have another adolf hitler right here sick bastard. Why don't you go camping with your family and little kids come face to face with a pack of wolves. I would rather run into bear or mtn. Lions than wolves.
Coonhoundred 1 month ago
@Coonhoundred yeah thaT'S cuz you're a pussy.
illadvised000 1 month ago
@illadvised000 Ok buddy there's trees out there to save so better go help them before they get cut down.
Coonhoundred 1 month ago
Adolf Hitler fought Communism and the Jew.
Whats wrong with that?
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
@illadvised000 actually i would love to punch u in the gut incapacitate you and then drop u off in the sawtooth mountains.
lugpoop 1 month ago
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@illadvised000 actually i would love to punch u in the gut incapacitate you and then drop u off in the sawtooth mountains.
lugpoop 1 month ago
@illadvised000 i would love to punch you in the stomach, incapacitate you and then drop you off in the sawtooth mountains.
lugpoop 1 month ago
@lugpoop the wolves should have ate these vermin hunters...
illadvised000 1 month ago
@illadvised000 I'm glad they didn't...:)
Crazymoose112 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Also ALL ANIMALS CARRY DISEASES not just one and disease is not the problem right now our wolves are in fact killing for sport and that has already been proven and that is my problem. Our deer where I live did in fact become over populated and disease did spread so I was glad to see wolves introduced but not when I found out they came from canada, they should have used smaller ones to begin with and in less numbers, now there is a bigger mess than before, nature always finds a way on it's own.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
I will agree that managing needs to be done and like you say responsibly, I am not for poaching or over hunting but I am for hunting and I for one use all but the bones, but the wolves here are worse than our poachers so firstly something needs done about the wolves and then the poachers. If they were the native species that maxed at around 110 pounds they would not be as bad at all but I have seen with my own eyes a wolf shot here that weighed 193 pounds (guts included) that's way too damn big
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
The wolves need to be managed. There is no doubt about that because if you manage predators and not prey, there are too many predators and a huge lack of prey. The thing is, there is a huge lack of sportsmanship where these hunters are hunting the wolves for no reason. The pelt is of virtually no use to them, they wont eat the meat, they are killing just to kill. Thats not being an outdoorsman, that is just a lack of respect. Manage the wolves, but at least be an outdoorsman about it.
MrFloppywaffles 1 month ago
For everyone still reading, in 2009 Idaho fish and game did an estimation of how many wolves we had they came up with 846 when they were asked to do the same expirement again because they were accused of being wrong they came up with a close actual number of almost 4,000, that was 3 years ago there are way more now, the government has already said there experement was a failure it's on multiple websites and the main fish and game one for idaho. Proof is there that is why it's legal to hunt them.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Also there were already wolves migrating here on there own before we introduced more. So nature was already doing it's own thing and we just had to mess with it.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Our elk are native, even if they were introduced here to expand the population they are the excact species that was here before we introduced more.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Rocky mountain elk aren't native to the rocky mountains? Wow I did not know that.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot Not all of your elk. All elk carry brucellosis. Besides, the elk get closer to your livestock than wolves do to transmit diseases. Would you love the wolves if they were the wolves native to Idaho? I didnt think so.
MrFloppywaffles 1 month ago
Like this if you live in an area where wolves are doing serious damage to the game and you'll help do something about it.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@khingila Where do you live kansas or something? You have no idea what happens here much like I don't know anything that happens where you live, hence why I am not arguing about something I know nothing of.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Oh and now they refilled that same reservoir and are trying again, tell me what's going to happen this time? More research? Maybe I'll be the one researching it killing thousands in the process but this time you'll respect me. Wow you really know your facts don't you? Like I have state numerous times, until you have seen the damage done shut the hell up because you don't know anything but what you are told. I know these facts because I fish it every year, except the ones while it was drained.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
That resulted in a waste of 10 years and over 300,000 cutthroats! I catch maybe 30 fish a year total and I'm the murderer? Yea that makes total sense. They call it research when that happens and I get labeled a murderer. Ok so I'm going to start working for the government and then hunt more than I need and not eat any of the meat I harvest and then you'll respect me because it's called research? Ok sure thing boss.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
How can you not see what's happening? There are a number of accounts where fish and game have messed up by introducing the wrong animal. Like there is a lake by where I live where they were trying to save the cutthroats by secluding them in a body of water, well after a while they tried to save another species so they introduced them with the cutthroats the other fish killed of most of the cutthroats within 3 years after that they drained the resevoir killing all the fish in it.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Just because you think it's harmful does not make it wrong it makes it life.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Instead of them fixing it they are only making matters worse, do you understand or are you going to continue arguing a point that has been proven wrong time and time again? Hunting has never been proven wrong it has only been thought to be wrong by people who are to caught up in todays modern society to know anything.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
The point is they put the wrong fucking animal here and it does not belong here. Humans have messed up in the past and will continue to do so yes, but fish and game have also messed up by introducing the wrong animals in certains spots just like the rainbow trout killing off the cutthroats now they are trying to reverse the harm they have caused to the native species, so our government has, is and will continue screwing up, what needs to be done is they need to stop playing god and leave it be.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
You need to realize that you are sticking up for an animal that is non-native and does not belong here at all, just because humans fucked up in the past does not mean I get to have the reprocutions forced upon me or my family by some stupid group of people trying to change the past and play god by reintroducing a non-native species here. We pulled people from africa for slaves yes bad juju but you don't see me trying to put europeans in africa now do you?
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Hinting towards natives, they do and have done it like that for years, years and years before we came along. So despite what I have done or will do natives have done it longer than you or you mom or dad or there mom or dad have been around so the point still stands valid, hunting is part of life and will be foreveor despite what you think you know.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot ok, you seem to be a little slow on the uptake, so the point is that it does not make any fucking difference how long anybody has been doing anything...people burned witches and sacrificed children and owned slaves for thousands of years and eventually (most of them, anyway) figured out that having done something harmful and stupid and cruel doesn't justify continuing to do it, no matter how long you've been doing it. if people want to hunt for food, great! go to it!
khingila 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot but human beings fucked up the northern rockies ecosystem by killing off the predators and introducing livestock and themselves, and all your ridiculous crabbing about a fraction of the natural population of wolves killing off all the cervidae doesn't justify trapping and killing wolves. you want to kill them because it makes you feel like a big man and/or you're afraid of them. trying to justify it as 'traditional' or 'necessary' is just bullshit.
khingila 1 month ago
It would not be hard to make a traditional long bow and I am sure that there are lots of people that do hunt with bows and arrows that they made, also they would not be tipped with a razor it would be quarts or some other rock that would hold and edge and the fletchings would be made of feather and that is not hard to do at all. Your argument falls short because it doesn't make any sense. Your point is mute mine is legit and will stand and more people see it my way than they do yours.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
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condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@khingila You are these stupid morons that I constantly speak of you are the reason society is collapsing because you think you know everythin because you looked it up on the internet when in reality the sources that you obtain this information is corrupt and incorrect also the fish and game numbers are only an average estimation. That's why I say until you live here and see for yourself then shut the hell up because you know not what you speak of, and your acting like a child. Grow up.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot i'm sorry...were you talking to me? because i'm afraid i don't speak incoherent idiot.
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila Who in there right mind wants to see there dog getting eaten by anything let alone record it and show it off too the world? I sure as hell don't want to be able to repeatedly watch my dog get eaten over and over again or have some stupid kid post dumb comments on it asking about proof or evidence, and why should he half to constantly watch his dog on his own property? If stupid people wouldn't have released these non-native wolves he wouldn't have these problems in the first place.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot The wolves are just as non native as the elk from that you want to save.
MrFloppywaffles 1 month ago
Oh and I hunt with a traditional long bow also and if you want I'll get a video of that because just so we are clear that has been around for a long time and it's natural and if it makes you feel better I'll dress in a deer skin coat (one of which was killed by me). Yep I'll just go pull the deer hide of my wall and put it on my back and go hunting just like I always do with a bow because that's just as rewarding. You good sir are a moron and it IS hilarious.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot did you make the bow? did you make the razor tipped arrows? do you actually think you rebutted my argument?
khingila 1 month ago
@Crazymoose112 Want to go hunting? I've got some 165 grain ballistic tips ready to come flying out of my 30-06 into the hearts of many wolves. Haha.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
I'm gald I'm not the only one who has seen the damage they have done and for the person who lost there dog I am very sad to here and I recomend getting a gun because just the sound of my 9mm makarov scares them away enough to help a little. I have yet to kill a wolf but if they try to attack me or come close I have no problems doing so. I am getting my wolf permit and dampening there population because I like to see animals close to my house not just blood everywhere. The hunt will continue!
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot dude! you are such a badass! high five!
khingila 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot *facepalm*
Want to make a difference? Clean water and land
tyler98621 2 weeks ago
I am not a rancher or a hunter however I have seen thru my dinning room window the change in the game in the last few years. Where I have watched deer, elk, moose, and even the occasional bear in my pasture this year I have been watching and at night listening to a lone wolf. Today in my presence (just a few feet away) that lone wolf attacked and killed my dog. The attack happened at 12:35 pm in the afternoon. I was so close that I heard my dogs neck crack. The blood trail is 5' 7" from my door.
1thebird1 1 month ago
@1thebird1 that's a sad story, and if it's true, please accept my condolences...but how about some evidence? where's the video? who identified the killer as a wolf, and what was the i.d. based on? what kind of dog was it? if you have a problem with predators where you live, why was your dog outside unattended?
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila We wouldn't have a problem with predators if these non native invasive species was not released here.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 you mean like rainbow trout and pheasant?
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila Those are not classified as predators. The fishing regulations in the South Fork of the Snake River were changed years ago to help remove the rainbow trout to preserve the native cutt throat trout.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 Your elk arent even native!
MrFloppywaffles 1 month ago
@MrFloppywaffles Bullshit! See message sent as YT does not allow links here.
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
ruj1970 1 month ago
Shit at this rate there's going to be an open season for peta members one day and I'll be ready to hunt them morons too. The truth is wolves are now fair game and my bullets will make a mark on the wolf population. Tough shit you ignorant idiots.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
Also it doesn't matter because it's wolf season right now and I intend on bagging more than i need and I will put the videos on here and you'll watch and you'll complain and in the end I will be the one smiling :) DEATH TO THE WOLVES!
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
There are still elk but nowhere near the amount that was here, you people are so ignorant I can't wait until reality hits you right in the face and you'll think back to this minute argument and you'll feel like a moron haha just wait you'll see.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot does it hurt to be so stupid? listening to your idiocy sure gives me a headache; i'll bet yours would hurt, too, if there was anything in it.
khingila 1 month ago
My backyard consists of the entire northern panhandle and there used to be a bunch of elk out here now it's only dead elk and wolves. I'm talking about you morons playing god. You know nothing until you see it. As far as humans hunting animals none of us would be alive at all if we didn't hunt, think about the cavemen and how we came to be. Hunting has been around since the begining of time human or animal everything hunts and I for one hunt to provide food.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot You're right on! Hunting has taken place since the beginning of time. It's one of the most natural things us human animals could do. Too bad all these modern detached people don't realize how one of the basic elements of existence is life feeding on life. It starts with bugs and goes all the way up the chain to us humans. Sometimes gruesome yes, but a fact nonetheless. May the hunt continue!
Crazymoose112 1 month ago 5
@Crazymoose112 it's always hilarious when some pro-killing knucklehead drags out the 'hunting is natural...thousands of years!' argument. then you know for sure they got nuthin'! i'll take it seriously when you're taking on an elk with a folsom point you knapped yourself on the end of a spear, dressed in animal skins and cooking it over a fire.
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila Hunting for humans is just as natural as any predator hunting. We are a part of nature just as much as any other animal. You are a braindead retard if you think otherwise.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@Crazymoose112 Yes but on large scales it is bad.
G3org3Master 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot Sickening isn't it. Not one of these morons crying over the wolves sees what is actually happening. They don't have the facts, they only react to their own emotion. They are confused and misled by the lies and deceit from groups like Defenders of Wildlife.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 what are the facts? seriously, what are the facts? where's your evidence? i'm not talking about your biased perceptions filtered through your idiot perspective in the service of your tiny dick need to kill to feel better about yourself...what's your evidence?
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila Why don't you change your crappy channell back to the normal so I can send you a lengthy message and I will show you the facts. Something you wolf lovers obviously don't have or simply refuse to accept.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@ruj1970 no idea what you are talking about, bub. 'my channel' has the default settings; i've never changed anything.
khingila 1 month ago
@khingila If you look at my channell there is a spot that says "send message". It is there where I can send a long message where your channell only can post a comment which has limited characters.
ruj1970 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot
Lol
We are here because of agriculture, not hunting.
Please don't waste the opportunity that america provides you in a free education.
And the panhandle isn't your backyard. The panhandle belongs to a collective of people, animals and the creator.
If you hunt to provide food, are you in favor of wolf killing?
jimmyamanita 1 month ago
Am I the only one who's favorite animal is a wolf
huntingwolf523 1 month ago
cryingwolfmoviedotcom, check it out
adamh563 1 month ago
wolves have never even been close to being actually endangered of extinction, but have been labeled "endangered" many time. thanks to politics
adamh563 1 month ago
Stick with your average numbers instead of taking the word of people who actually live here, god you people are so ignorant and stupid. Hey here's an idea if any of you would like to come visit I will take you for a walk and prove it all to you in one day, that's all I need because when we come back you'll be looking for a gun to go shoot them yourself.
condemnedfoot 1 month ago
@condemnedfoot and of course the liberal media won't report all the wolf kills of human beings, because they want the wolves to KILL ALL THE WILDLIFE and TAKE OVER THE STATE of idaho, it's really the HUMANS that are endangered. you gotta get your story out there, man, keep shouting even when it seems like no one is listening, because people need to know that obama is giving the wolves ak47s and teaching them how to dress up like 7 year old kids.
khingila 1 month ago