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  • Christ as much as I disagree as to why the riots happened, blaming it all on one particular race is digusting, it wasn't just black people involved and you know it wasn't, to deny that white people weren't involved at all is willfully ignorant. Race traitor my ASS.

  • I live in haringey, it's pretty sound. You're just misguided, you stokie

  • @1unnamend But Honestly stop searches are mental in haringey happened to me and most people i know at least 5 times

  • This woman sounds like a libtard, therefore her viewpoints are worthless.

  • I wonder at what point white 'self-hating' Liberals are going to wake up.

    Your an indoctrinated little girl, and its not white guys responsibility to protect you when austerity riots turn to full scale race riots. Which are already slated to happen in Europe in about 10 years time, if not earlier. To all those people reading this comment don't get mad at these folk, they are the walking dead. If you have an uneasy feeling about the future, go with that hunch and start preparing.

  • Nice pussy and the cat is cute too

  • I assume that not many people here know what politically motivated means. If you steal a hdtv from the high street it means you cannot easily afford it. And why carnt they afford it? Because of the education system and the high unemployment rate. And that in itself is a political motive.

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  • Came back to check u out after a year & ur still talking that leftist garbage.

  • I disagree. I know people that travelled from my area TO London to join in. Every single one was a mugger, thief or some sort of bully and thug. As someone of the age of these people I PROMISE you that this WAS "mindless violence." It was kids living out a fantasy of smashing shit up without consequence.

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  • Your mercy to blacks will earn you only painful misery from blacks.

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  • @Matrix29bear

    >Implying white people don't do just as much fucked up shit.

    >Implying pigmentation of skin has any direct correlation on one's behavior patterns.

    >Implying you're not retarded.

    >Implying black people don't serve in the armed forces, politics and more.

    >Obama is black, does that make you a little mad ?

  • What a load of fucking disgusting nigger loving bullshit. My money says you don't have the guts to walk alone around the nigger infested London slums on a dark night yet here you are whining about how it's not really the nigger's fault that they went on a criminal rampage.

  • I truly admire your honesty, if a white race had more people like you....sorry....

    I was joking (kinda)...lol... But the truth is that YOU CAN'T KEEP AN ALCOHOLIC FROM DRINKING HIMSELF TO DEATH. England is finished. Wanna know why? - look......

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    A week or two ago I fell into conversation with a constituent, a middle-aged, quite ordinary working man employed in one of our nationalized industries. He said, "In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man."

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  • Statistics are not racist. They're fact. By your own admission, 80% of the prison population are nogs. If the poe-lease are targetting spooks for stop-and-search, then obviously they are doing their job, because jigs statistically are more likely to engage in crime. You need to send your jungle bunnies home. Then and ONLY then will things improve.

    As for multiculturalism, major governments of Western Europe have publicly recognized that multiculturalism has failed. Who are you to disagree?

  • what if I told you I was stealing your watch for my old mum who has tha cancer an sheet. Lol. you would believe me? I bet you would.

  • I'm sure if you had cancer the last thing you would want is a fucking bun. lol.

  • Do your friends who as you say live in the shire know about this video? And what you really think of them. You wan them to feel guilt right? Why should they? they worked hard probably for what they have. Niggers all want to be the Kang ( King in nigger babble ) they don't realise you need soldiers also, more so. Did you know haiti had 6000 generals in its silly little army? Niggers hate you. Drop the act. It's an act. drop it. Stand back and revaluate your self.

  • Thank goodness you are across the pond. I'd hate to have you for a neighbor. You'd probably help burglars break into my apartment because I have so much and they are poor and needy.

  • Yeah bitch move to apefrica if you love them so much, piece of fuck.

  • This libtard is going to be brutally killed one day, if not her daughter is going to be gang raped and shived by a bunch of feral niggers. I only wish I could be there to see her face when it happens.

  • @TheTechBite When that happens, she'll be blaming herself and Society. She'll be saying Society failed the nogs.

  • @NogsAreNuthen There is no stop or limits to these pieces of shit, they are that much in denial.

  • You are so dumb. The niggers won't help you when the shit hits the fan. You will be looking for YT to save you. You are a disgrace.

  • Mindless violence = niggers but this is impossible for a libtard to comprehend

  • Wow...you are one of the dumbest cunts I have ever seen. Keep coddling the niggers. Unfortunately, it's going to take a knife at your throat and a black cock in your ass before you wise up. But then again, you'll probably find a way to blame whitey for that too.

  • Thing of me when a pack of wild niggers is tearing your prissy little asshole apart dipshit . They will be laughing at you and then you'll know who your enemy is .

  • Beware these "anarchists". Most are police saboteurs. They run back to the hide behind the police lines for a reason.

  • Grow up boundless eyes. You're a deluded fool. It was filthy nigger apes that were rioting. You are a race traitor. Once you look at race it all becomes clear. The niggers will kill you too. You don't get it. I used to think like you. I grew up and became proud of my race the YT race. I am not good at writing and I can see you are. nevertheless my point is valid. The YT kids were rioting because they were brought up around liberal fools and niggers.

  • Lol ..... a few hundred Rioters caused havoc across London for a few nights and now your all shiting pants lol wat bout Iraq, Afghanistan for years u occupy? How do they feel and these people have nothing but I say wat goes round comes round! A storm is coming and it can't be stopped only the believers with faith will escape!

  • the truth behind the riots /watch?v=6G24O0iHOVQ

  • Where as Boundlesseyes gone to?

    Maybe shes having second thoughts about the multicultural society in the UK.

  • I love that, about 13 minutes into the video, the cat starts purring.

  • I like the suggestion that items were targeted for looting according to their ease of resale. To waht extend though? Is there also an obsession with bling for its status value rather than "investment" value? Is it because of a society perversely measuring dignity in material terms? Over several decades I've seen "bogan" culture in Australia getting swept along with materialist hedonism rather than developing a dignified alternative culture.

  • So did the sociologists get invited onto the BBC as you hoped they would? Judging by the treatment of Darcus Howe, I suspect they would have been limited in what they were allowed to say anyhow.

  • I came here after watching her lazy eye video; a touching, honest description of how it has been for her to have such a flaw. Too bad she has taken up the Western sickness of championing everything that is weak and poor and non-white. Her sophomoric understanding of the world is typical of those killing all the good that came from the Enlightenment and Renaissance, destroying the achievements of Europeans after centuries of struggle against primitivism & ignorance. She knows nothing.

  • @TulliusVII And so how many of her points have you refuted? Zero. Nothing.

  • I quite sure that you would have a different opinion if your home was burnt down.

  • ARE YOU ON THE NIGGERS AND NON WHITES SIDE , OR WHAT?

  • Boundlesseyes bring back Nuron666. He is wise and may have something interesting to say.

    

  • your an idiot

  • @obidunn14 'You're' should have an apostrophe in it.

  • @BoundlessEyes My grammar may be poor, but not as bad as your morals trying to defend the indefensible

  • @obidunn14 I'm not going to get in to a debate on morality with somebody who goes around calling people with differing viewpoints idiots.

  • Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge the level of poverty/corruption. There is not one point that you made which I could disagree with!

  • So what does boundless eyes think about citizen service? And what would you cat have done if she had been in power during the riots?! ;)

  • Thanks for this. I agree the media really skews these things.

  • Get ya feckin tits out! Tho i agree, thumbs up!

  • The police can't seem to get it right. It's one cockup after another. A test for common sense needs to be included in their recruitment process.

  • The rich aka bankers took the bailout from tax payers but they didn't call it stealing.

    The rich aka MPs took MP expense from council tax but they didn't call it stealing.

    The middle class are driving all over with stolen goods aka Iraqi, Libyan oil to run their cars but they don't call it possessing stolen goods.

    NEED I SAY MORE ?

  • @theracemixer No, I think that says it all really.

  • @theracemixer no offence pal

    The Bankers and MP's did not go into someones shop and smash it up and scare the living daylights out of them did they. Many of those shop keepers are now traumatised by the whole event.

    Some of them are now scared to go back to work.

    Some are even thinking they dont want to live in that neighbourhood. They may even move to another nicer neighbourhood. Maybe go abroad maybe

  • @Eugenics2020

    The MPs didn't need to go anywhere they simply wrote a paper slip for xxx amount the xxx amount came out of the tax payer, When people protested over what the MPs did the police were there to protect them, hell for the police to call others criminals is utter hypocrisy when 2 of the top cops had to resign over the phone hacking.

    UK is poor because the bankers looted the country & this is forcing ppl to move to other countries

  • @theracemixer look people in politics and in powerful positions and so on have always been corrupt. Thats the way of the world. Its been like that for thousands of years. You guys need to get over it. Its old news.

    I am more worried about getting mugged or beaten up on the street by some low life scum with a knife or a gun.

    The majority of people in the UK are more worried about being attacked by a violent stranger, than some politicians fiddling the system

  • @Eugenics2020

    First of all there are no community without children. without children the population dies off, The reason the rich and power that put in to a society is to keep the population high. This in turn reduce how much they pay for a worker.

    After the black death it was he poor who were lucky. Why? the lords were forced to pay higher wage to a farmers (the poor) since there was no competition the farmer asked for the wage.

  • @theracemixer its all about quality of kids.

    Whats the point of a bad parent bringing up kids who then end up on the welfare trap.

    They are just draining the system and probably end up filling up our prison system.

    If someones going to have a kid, make sure you look after it and teach it some morals etc...

  • @Eugenics2020

    Most jobs in UK and western world is becoming less manual and more intellectual since you dropped out of collage who would employ you?

    You do know most job require a degree but you don't even have a collage certificate, thus leading me to think you are on the benefit.

  • @theracemixer I worked in tescos, stacking shelf lol.

    Then worked for my brother who owns a shop part time job. The shop got attacked last week during the riot, luckily my brother had the doors shut just the door window got smashed. No major damage. We got off lightly.

    I have never been a materialistic person. So I am just happy doing simple part time jobs and spend most of the time chilling out at home.

  • @Eugenics2020

    I see your brother employed you because you have special skills that rioters don't (sarcasm)

  • @theracemixer your attempt at sarcasm wasnt that funny pal.

    Anyways mate, make sure you inform the cops if you know of any of these scum bag rioters. We all need to pull together and rid our cities of these low life scum bags.

  • @Eugenics2020

    since you are the object of sarcasm you wouldn't find it funny but other just might find it funny.

    Why don't we ask BoundlessEyes if i was funny or not?

    As to knowing anyone in the riot ? no i don't know anyone beside they were mostly with masks.

  • I like the cat. I like the way he/she is listening.

  • @harrynking777 My cat is very politically involved. She has some pretty radical ideas about animal rights, though. =p

  • @ITZBIZBUZ I probably wont defeat these Abrahamic religions, but I will give it a damn good go.

  • @Eugenics2020 No, you probably won't.

    I warn you, I know you don't understand why, but you're pissing me off. Please try to keep it loving and frankly, human, on my channel.

  • @ITZBIZBUZ in another 10 years time people will eventually submit to my ideology.

    I am pretty confident. Once Global warming starts kicking in, then people will sign up to my ideas.

  • BNP!

  • You're not very racially aware. You should have boundless eyes for your own people, young beauty. Long live the English. The races are beautiful. Especially our own.

  • @sageprabhupada My own people are those who I live around every day, those who help me carry my bags off of the bus, those who smile at me in shops. My people have no race, we are one heart and one collective. We won't be silenced by people who would trap us in small boxes, label us 'race traitors' or 'feminazis' or 'bleeding heart liberals'. My people love people.

  • @BoundlessEyes -- Why deny race. It's part of nature's diverse creation. And why should "your own people" be nothing but the random happenstances of life. No group of people is "one heart." But it's best to have "one heart" with your own natural family first, if you can, then your own people. This is natural. Nobody can actually "love everybody." It's really copping out on your own.

  • Martin Luther King went to prostitutes while married, he also beat prostitutes up. Why the hell are you quoting that pig? Don't be a race traitor.

  • lol, you had me nodding until you let on that you're racist filth.

    John Lennon was also a wife beater. Doesn't mean Imagine isn't a good message.

    Get the fuck off my channel.

  • @ITZBIZBUZ I believe in a world wide population control scheme. Every country should be encouraged to limit the population size. We should all join hands on Youtube, facebook etc.. and promote this idea of a 1 child per female limit.

    Once the population size has gone down. People will enjoy a better quality of life. Everyone will have jobs. We no longer need to have a global economy. We can be a internal community based economy.

  • at school they tell you violence never achieves anything. but it's a lie. violence opens eyes and ears like nothing else..

  • stop waffling and get to the point

  • @33spy33 Watch something else.

  • @BoundlessEyes You are not beautiful btw, you are average. my GF has 34 EE's and we'll be doing some porno soon then you'll see what beauty is, you liberal loser

  • @33spy33 I have no idea how that's relevant.

  • @ITZBIZBUZ I agree with what your saying

    The problem isnt the fault of governments. Technology has become so advanced now, machines can do all the jobs of humans. Thats the problem. You only need a few humans to work, the rest is done by computers and machines.

    So we need to lower the population size, otherwise we will have of loads of people who we dont know what to do with.

  • @ITZBIZBUZ you say more jobs.

    What sort of jobs are we going to give people? The next problem will be some people will turn around and say well I am not doing that job because I cant wake up at 6am in the morning or I dont like the pay. One excuse after another. This is the problem.

    British teenagers are difficult creatures. You only have to sit in a state school class room and see just how difficult they are to teach. They are constant moaners

  • Watching some of the Parliamentary debate on the news today - they're seriouslt talking about removing people's benefits and social housing if they are convicted or being involved in the riots or looting. And this will help because...? It's truly shocking to me how this is being dealt with, I seriously want to leave this country - if this is the best we can do i'm going to start looking for alternatives now.

  • @illeatyourfaceoff Absolutely agree. The news coverage and parliamentary response makes me more ashamed to be British than when they were burning down my local area, and that's the truth.

    They were making those cuts anyway. Cameron is now smiling like a Cheshire cat because a) everyone has forgotten that his head was on the block for the phone-hacking scandal and b) nobody cares any longer about poor children, single mothers or ethnic minorities. PR field-day. I'm fuming.

  • @BoundlessEyes Yea it's all perfect timing as far as a distraction goes.. Murdoch must be rubbing his chubby little fingers together too! What really gets me, and has cemented my decision to move away is the reaction from the general public. I am mostly friends with open-minded liberal types but even the vast majority of these refuse to try and understand why this has happened. The politicians don't surprise me, but the next time this happens there will be vigilante groups etc. I'm getting out.

  • @BoundlessEyes As frustrated as I am I can see why people go along with the "just mindless savages" line-the media is a non-stop barrage of carefully staged interviews and opinions. You only have to watch the Darcus Howe interview to see how our news is being distorted. I'm genuinely scared of the reaction to riots being worse than the riots themselves. We will tear ouselves apart on the streets while the rich and powerful look on encouraging the hate & anger, and making the poor even poorer.

  • Clueless fucking eyes more like.

  • @Davidkc23 Thanks David.

  • Mindless violence! No! Not 'aberations of consciousness" is causing all this, but the material circumstances these young people are finding themselves in - insecurity about their future, perceived inequality, poverty. Poverty is not only having nothing to eat or no shelter, but you feel poor when you feel that the new needs that are being created - i-phones, better mark trainers... to name a few - are met only for the rich kids. You feel deprived if you or your parents don't get a good job.

  • @dewinthemorning I know and I completely agree with all my heart. But it's important to recognise how socially irresponsible the rioters have been (and how politically ineffectual) in order to get anyone whatsoever to listen to me. The news in Britain has been stirring the people into a frenzy of 'Send in the army! Heroes killed! Animals looting!' and I need to try to get moderate people on side by acknowledging their grievance.

  • @BoundlessEyes I completely agree with the beginning of your video as well. I didn't have space in the comment to say that I condemn the looting and the violence.... I also think that it goes without saying...

    it's just that the bigger picture should be considered.

  • @dewinthemorning that's so sad, poor negroes don't have new iphones, they have to use blackberrys

    i have a solution for them if they feel so oppressed in England, they should move back to Africa/Jamaica/Haiti

    I'm sure they will have more oportunities there

  • @blackraider777 Once again, I would point you in the direction of a number of riots including those in Enfield Town in which the rioters were white skinheads. This was not a black riot.

    How does someone who was born in Britain move back anywhere? You people are so ignorant it makes my head spin. Critical thinking, meet racist moron. Befriend one another.

  • @blackraider777 Do racists have conventions where they learn new ways of sounding hilariously undereducated, or is this an "off the cuff" talent you've developed here?

  • @SordidWaif Lol, amen.

  • This is why people should turn to anarcho-syndicalism.

  • stfu you fucking bloggers no one fucking cares and stop posting in news cause your not news with your fucking opinions.

  • Excellent video. :)

  • ..And another thing.

    It's fucking obvious why they filmed the most exciting footage of people smashing windows, burning cars ect. ect. ect. who the fuck wants to film a peaceful protest? And it doesn't just apply to anti-fa types and blacks, the wackiest and most violent fascists get far more air-time then people like David Duke ect. It's not some big conspiracy it's TV networks pandering to the viewers sense of superiority and want to see shit going down

  • @23Stork I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I said that it's a fact we privilege violence over legitimate protest, and question whether this is an appropriate approach.

  • Could someone explain why stopping and searching a race/class of people that statistics show are more likely to be involved with petty crime over a race/class of people who are not is so immoral? I know that Boundless is an anarchist or libertarian or some shit so she won't have a decent answer because the existence of a state-organised police force will offend her but could someone tell me why the loony-left are so gob-smacked by stopping and searching, it's just common sense.

  • @23Stork I'm a socialist. I question whether crime stats gathered after stopping-and-searching 8 times more black men with no reasonable causes might not be a) skewing said stats - if we stopped and searched 8 times more poor white men than black do you think the stats would shift? I do. b) whether or not such an action is likely to increase a distrust of the police force in those areas and therefore lend itself to a distaste for the laws themselves.

  • @23Stork Well, statistically a large majority of serial killers are white males. That scares my aunt Betty, so I think we should frequently stop white males to see if they might be the kind of sick screw that serially murders people.

    White collar crimes are also committed mostly by white men, I'll bet we'd all feel safer if we frequently stopped white dudes to see if they might be a hacker, embezzler or something.

    Get those white boys off the street!

  • @SordidWaif The white collar crime requires a higher degree of intelligence than direct thieving and violence. This could explain why fewer blacks are involved in it. However, there is plenty of fraud committed by blacks, especially the Nigerians who seem to have built up a large reputation in this regard.

  • No One makes them stop there - This aint Africa its England. No excuse. They can rot in hell for all I care.

  • @zark212 You're just as apathetic about the plight of poverty stricken people as they are. 

  • For a start well done for making this video and being brave enough to post it here. I have shared it as much as I can - it's so important we try and learn the lessons from what's happened to stop us making the same mistakes in the future. As you say it was only in the 80's that riots like these happened before and obviously the lessons weren't learned last time. I'm hopeful for change, but honestly I expect this to happen again as soon as the kids are released from prison with even less to lose.

  • @illeatyourfaceoff Thanks so much for sharing the video. Yes, I felt like screaming watching David Cameron talking about 'sick pockets of society' as though these people are a cancer to be removed and binned and not people who he himself must take partial responsibility for failing.

    Effectively he said 'oh, you're angry we shot a guy? Well we'll shoot more guys then and see how you like that'.

    "Oh LOOK, a fire! Wonder what happens if I just add this fuel...?"

  • Interesting to here from a real person and not from like BBC or some other fake news. Im not from the UK but from my perspective and what i can see this is one of many reactions of this fucked up world that we are living in and it have grown more and more sins the 2008 crash, it seems like it gonna be a bumpy ride and i hope we dont have to spend our last min in an bunker. Until the world dont recognize that we are one people on one planet we gonna see more of this shit for sure /Peace

  • "a mindless expression of a very justified anger" - I think this expression of yours describes the events perfectly.

  • I wish there were more brits like you speaking out about the social movement that is being ignored and thwarted by the corporatocracy.

    Too many damned Statists in the UK I say.

  • I was watching the news this afternoon, this guy was charged for robbing a shop during the riot got a 6 months sentence. There was this teenager came out of the court laughing.

    The British justice system is a bloody joke. This is unbelievable. That kind of shit punishment is not going put the public at ease. Specially shop keepers. At times like this you kind of have respect for the Chinese and Islamic sharia style regimes.

  • @Eugenics2020 Watch it. Fascist opinions aren't welcome here. Just ask Nuron.

    Yes, that boy laughing coming out of court was playing up to cameras, and a certain section of society which is proud to break the law. That is exactly why I'm arguing for bettering social services, educational standards, job opportunities and community outreach programmes in those areas. No-one denies there is a problem here.

  • @BoundlessEyes I jusy think a lot of people out would want to see harsh punishments and they wont be happy with anything less.

    While I agree with you arguing for bettering social services, educational standards, job opportunities and so on, I just think its a unrealistic demand, Its going to cost the UK billions.

    We have to take the cheaper option for the time being. If we lock these kids up for 10 to 20 years in prison. This will send a clear warning to others who are going to misbehave

  • @Eugenics2020 They lock up lots of kids in the US. has that worked for them? You need to eliminate the conditions in which these sorts of thing scan happen. Besides if you're a guy who grew up believing you had no future, you wouldn't really care about going to jail now would you?

    What they did was wrong, but if we want to make sure these sorts of things don't happen then we have to fix the underlying problems in society that create these kinds of people.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R we need to be realistic. We live in a overcrowded society and there is no way of giving every single person a education and a job. It cannot be done. No society in the world has achieved jobs for all.

    The cheapest solution is to keep locking up offenders for long periods of time. 10 to 20 years.

    Out of sight out of mind. We need to look after decent hard working people.What we should be working on is limiting the population, 1 child per female. This will improve living standards

  • @Eugenics2020 I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to argue that locking people up is not a solution. In fact it makes things worse. Lets say a juvenile hoodlum commits a coupe of petty crimes and ends up in jail with hardened thugs and criminals. I bet you that that kid will be a hardened criminal by the time he gets out of jail. This is exactly what has happened in the US.

    If you want to protect the 'decent' people, then we need to make society more equitable.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R for juvenile offenders we can provide them an education and psychological help while they are in prison.

    And we can warn them that if you go out and commit more crimes. Your going to spend another 20 years.

    We need to give them the message that we are in charge and your going obey.

    We dont have to be like America. We can be a little flexible.

  • @Eugenics2020 but if you're living in a society where you are made to feel like you are worthless because of your race or socioeconomic status from the time you are born, where you are severely disadvantaged in terms of employment opportunities and quality education, where you are brainwashed from a very young age to embrace materialism and consumerism..I don't think prison will do you much good. Who knows I could be wrong though.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R my idea is to put responsibility onto individuals. Let them know that long prison sentences are not a laughing matter. 10 to 20 years in a prison is a very long time.

    We need to put the fear of god into these people.

    I am pretty sure they will much rather spend their life on the outside than in.

  • @Eugenics2020 If you treat people like animals for long enough, eventually stuff like this is going to happen...and that doesn't make what they did right, but that's just how it is. I've known 'gangsters' and with talking to them, a lot of them don't value their lives anymore, they really don't care and the reason they don't care is because nobody ever cared about them. They were left to rot by society. To them being 'outside' is just like being 'inside'.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R the gangster dude you mentioned, it seems to me like he had too much time out in society.

    His been given too many chances. If it was up to me, he would be left in prison to rot.

    What we could do is build loads of prisons and improve the standards in prison. Educate them, give them pyschological help, protect vulnerable prisoners. Civlise them while they are in prison

    We can prepare offenders for the outside world.

  • @Eugenics2020 Well hopefully your children wont live in a society where they are made to feel like subhuman trash from the time they are born.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R look no one is treating children like subhuman trash. This is all nonsense.

    We as a society need to teach children some basic manners from the day they are born the parent and the schools can teach them.

    To say thank you to the nice shop keeper, be polite, dont spit in public. If you see an old lady in distress, help her out.

    Kids need to be taught manners by society and we are not doing it.

  • @Eugenics2020 It's easy for you to say that when you haven't been where they're at. Try putting yourself in other people's shoes and you might start to have some compassion for them.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R I do have compassion.

    I have compassion for innocent people being beaten up for no reason, I have compassion for women who get raped. I have compassion for kids who are bullied in schools by gangs.

    I have compassion for people who are in the recieving end of crime.

    I want to protect the innocent defensless people.

    The people I have very little compassion for is the yobs, teenage thugs, criminals, gangs, murderers, rapists and these sorts of undesirables.

  • @Eugenics2020 The best way to show your compassion would be to take whatever action is proven to reduce such undesirables. And the death penalty/corporal punishment does not do that.

  • @Eugenics2020 What you have to understand is that the majority of the violence in the world today has underlying causes. Yes there are some psychopaths who do terrible things just because that's who they are, but they are in the extreme minority. If you want to get rid of violent crime then you need to make society more equitable and improve the conditions which make it possible for ordinary people to turn into criminals.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R Seconded.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R I understand what your trying to do.

    Like I said to Boundlesseyes, improving conditions, creating jobs for everyone, improving education etc.etc..

    all of this is just unachievable because the society is just too big. Britain will go bankrupt.

    Look you guys just accept that I have won the debate. Take it on the chin. Give it up guys

  • @Eugenics2020 You didn't 'win' anything. You never actually proved what I said was wrong now did you? The facts are the majority of criminals are made, not born. Now if you don't want to make society fairer for everyone, then that's your business but don't be upset when sh*t starts happening alright? Besides your assertion that it is unachievable has no basis in reality. It IS achievable and well within our means if the money is spent right.

  • @WishCRUS4D3R it says you live in Greenland. I dont know where exactly you live.

    If you actually have lived in inner city areas in London or any other Britsh cities, you would realise British teenagers that live in theses areas are very difficult to handle. You ask any school teacher and they will tell you. Trying to teach a british teenager is like trying to get blood out of stone.

  • @Eugenics2020 Eugenics, you haven't answered my point about us spending BILLIONS on the 2012 Olympics. We don't have the money? Bullshit. We don't want to spend the money on people who have no voice.

    There is no 'winning' here because we are all equally powerless. If we weren't, we wouldn't be sitting here debating on a youtube video.

  • @BoundlessEyes I need timeout. Knackered

    I will get back to you and WishCrus4d3r later in the evening.

    

  • @BoundlessEyes regarding 2012 Olympics. That money was spent like 10 year ago, building the stadiums and so on. It also created jobs. We no longer have any money to spend now.

    You say we should spend money on people. We need establish what exactly are we going to spend money on.

    We have people who dont want to work, we have people who dont want to do particular kind of jobs, we have people who want a huge some of cash to do a simple little job, otherwise they say they wont work.

  • @BoundlessEyes you see what we have is a young generation full of moaners. They moan when there isnt a job and they moan when they get a job. They moan about the pay. They moan about this and that.

    If you ask any of these employers, thats what they are saying about the British teenagers. They are saying the British teenager is lazy, the dont arrive at work on time. They dont take pride in their work.

    Many of these employers are saying they prefer immigrant workers to British worker

  • @Eugenics2020 Ok mate, I'm bored into submission. You 'win'.

  • @BoundlessEyes I am glad you have come round to my way of thinking.

  • @Eugenics2020 No, feeling that someone's viewpoint is not worth bothering with is not remotely the same as agreeing.