Everyone can readily agree that the RV results compared to the images are so weak that, even if true, we needn't worry about terrorists reading the launch codes or blue prints for our nuclear missiles.
The ultimate test is to use the drawing from the previous session and compare it to the image Shermer selected. Can the stonehenge RV results be twisted into matching the Hubble picture and vice-versa?
If you believe they cannot, then RV is better than randomness and more than subjective validation.
All I can say is that I'm thankful Shermer wasn't there when Edison's first light bulb burned only 40 hours. No use for that at all!
@TeapotMullah Well you must have misunderstood me. The point I was making is that something like remote viewing has significant national security implications. America must lead in the study and development of Remote Viewing so that, if real, terrorists cannot remotely read our missile blueprints or our nuclear launch codes. And remember that today's RV might be like Edison's first light bulb-- weak and undeveloped. But look at the Las Vegas strip in 1980, just a century later!
@Smithpolly No, they are looking things in the Galaxy's, the guy is a complete fraud, he just went through the training, a target must have : 1. Texture 2. Colors 3. Smell 4. Taste 5. Temperatures 6. Sounds 7. Dimensions (motions and density) and 8. Aesthetic impact. He chose something that would be almost impossible to describe in those terms even IF you could see the picture. Go ahead and describe those eight things for all of us using his picture of millions of year old light.
@eckre I describe the picture as black with a lot of lights in it. I wouldn't describe it as a horse drawn carriage or someone passing away or symoblising a crossing because it was going over a river or a Chinese Wall or a rocket or an oil drum or a cement mixer or Teddy Roosevelt or a fan tailed jet engine.
"Look! Look! A circular object! Its a galaxy!" Wow, such underwhelming evidence. That psychologist is a complete moron. Know what else is circular and rotates? A roulette wheel, a bicycle wheel, a tire, a ferris wheel, a carousel, etc. etc. Draw a circle and then try to find every object in your room that is shaped somewhat like a circle. You can't possibly be wrong!
Ok, so they are to guess what is inside a envelope? stupid. Maybe give them a real location, this is your target.. and in RL put an object or person in that area. If they could do remote viewing they would be able to describe a person or object not in the picture but is in the pictures area in real time. ex. satelite view of my house, is my car there or not?
Q&A A former Remote viewer speaks out. What does the remote viewer tap into?
What do you all think of this? John seems very sincere about his experience has anyone had similar experiences as he has? Such as experiencing intelligent nonhuman entities?
Q&A A former Remote viewer speaks out. What does the remote viewer tap into?
What do you all think of this? John seems very sincere about his experience has anyone had similar experiences as he has? Such as experiencing intelligent nonhuman entities?
RV is Channel Demonic spirits the info comes from them the fallen this is what they don't tell people.As he said they don't know where the info comes from. This false theologies that cause believers 2 doubt, all kinds of false standards of spirituality that causes believers 2 think that they’re not really required 2 live with Gods Laws. We are warned about this when u contact u open yourself up 2 spirits and most are demonic in this realm I know this to be fact if they say diff they are lying
Delusional people like this need to be "fixed" like dogs. Even more so they should be "fixed" with a rusty lid from a tin can (dogs should be treated more humanely).
@InSightRV no not true, I've viewed some space anomalies b4...Jupiter is interesting. However one thing at a time b4 u scare ppl with the thought of tall thin yellow aliens. I am kind of puzzled as to why alot of these remote viewers have to be in the same room together? I do my best viewing alone & blind to target as always. technically couldn't they just b given a target and told to view it from thousand of miles away?
I personally have grievances with all parties involved, here. The psychics' defense was outright laughable, what with "not the easiest of targets" and whatnot. However, it's also undeniable that the act of being observed changes the observed. As a pianist, I perform much better alone than on stage the vast majority of the time. The experiment this time didn't account for that, so I'd have preferred that the subjects were told it was a normal session.
the problem for lack of accuracy in that experiment was that the Remote Viewers actually concentrated on the wrong target. They fell in the trap of concentrating on the envelop ...
To get the best results in that test, their focus and concentration needed to be on Michael and what he intended to put in the envelop. " Something nebulous...hard to describe....Bam..a galaxy !!! "
@omnissient Shermer should've done the test out of multiple targets bearing in mind the success rate for them is 15%, but that was the 80s..its the 21st century now..i agree it is kind of douchey, why do they even have 2B in the same room as the envelope??
Dampening effect. Negative vibrations. Blocking the energy. God doesn't like being tested.
Every time a child says "I don't believe in fairies", a fairy dies. Only people with crimes to hide attack Scientology. If you don't accept Jesus, you'll burn - as you deserve.
I'll be praying for those who disagree, because I am a disciple of Love, and you can be sure of that, because I used a capital L.
Hmm am quite curious if the man who made this video also has this yt channel.
So a few things to keep in mind:
- The guy running the course is not a RV Guru or anything, in fact I've never seen him outside of this video.
- RV works about 2 out of 3 times on average, even for EXPERT viewers. So the trainer trying to prove ALL sessions were on target was kinda stretched. Doesn't happen like that even in ideal conditions with pro viewers.
- Associative RV is not subjective, it shows clear numbers
So in my opinion Associative RV is the ONLY way that could ever prove RV, and also something I'd invite any skeptic to explain away. It's not coincidence if it shows a clear deviation from pure chance. By definition if something is a clear deviation from pure chance it cannot be a coincidence
For instance I've successfully won ARV bets using space targets. My description was lame, more like deep dark sea with something sparkling, but good enough to identify the correct picture out of a pair.
quantum physics state that the mere observation of a phenomenon can alter it's outcome. AKA "The observer effect". thumbs up if you know what im talking about =D
@TEHNOOBSHOW6 Shouldn't be an issue with RV, as far as I've read and tested. If you got an OK viewer, and test on more than 1 session (like 5-10 at least) then along the way there will be enough great data that will not be explainable via coincidence.
IMO the best way to prove RV works is to have a tasker-viewer team, do Associative RV, and measure the clear deviation from chance. So far mine is pretty good. Skeptics are invited to explain it away if they can :)
Well I am a person who thinks there is always something fantastic or unknown somewhere...I also am inclined to believe with out the right proof there is no unexplained thing in the said location. I didn't see anything conclusive here. It was to much of a horseshoe contest, these people literally through out a number of possibilities that could account for everything. The search for the unknown continues
@ryudragon7 ARV shows a clear measurable effect. Check my videos, I put this shit to the test with a skeptic friend, and so far we have clear deviation from chance.
Meaning we used RV to get enough info about the future, to place correct sporting bets, 7 out of 8 times so far. The 1 miss was right at the beginning, while we were still tuning the system. Once we added enough redundancy, no misses since then.
So right now we have "coincidence" in our favor 7 out of 8 times, and counting :)
I do RV, and know awesome readers with incredible results. I have started some betting tests to see if it could make some money, and it worked very well so far. Above expectations. It can be done, if you are willing to do the research and put in the work.
No I will not do any lame "what's in my pocket" tests here on youtube, especially the comments, as the number of sessions are limited in a day, and right now mine bring in the $ :)
LOL - Shermer needs to practice his sleight of hand a bit more. He nearly pulls all 3 pictures out of the envelope at 2:34. He also uses an editing fade to prevent the viewer from seeing that the others are still in there.
The end of this video is the best. I actually laughed out loud. Oh, the classic "skeptic dampening the psychic power trick." How come his being there didn't dampen the psychic energy in the first half?
@TheLogos1 Well that's why people shouldn't do simple tests liek that. ARV is a great way to test it. Associative RV I mean. Start betting, make money, then after a few hundred bets you should be able to prove a HUGE deviation from pure chance, in the viewer's favor.
This is what I started to do, and so far the initial numbers look well. Cash has started to come in, and we're well above pure chance. Does RV work ? No idea. Has it made me money ? Yes it has. For me that's proof enough.
For those interested in seeing Shermer having his ass handed to him by the brilliant and far more "Bright" Stephen C. Meyer, check out my profile. Once you see the intellectual beatdown Meyer gives him you'll never look at Shermer the same again.
@troonorth i only asked this because i was wondering if anyone else saw that this was indeed the deep field picture that hubble telescope took in the constellation ursa major, known as the great bear to greek and latin and many native americans, but in german, slovak and east european countries and scandinavia and england was known as the "peasant's wagon" which later became known as the wagon of charlemagne, or "charles' wain"
The remote viewing advocates say it's a sense. it doesn't act like one. All our senses are %100 accurate. We look at a cat, we see a cat not a vague shape that may be a cow, car or comet. I love the ending - the teacher is in total denial. I'm remote veiwing right now watching youtube.
THe photo could have been of a motorcycle and they'd apply the "cylindrical" and "circular motion to it. The whirlpool of energy would have been the gas tank...etc.
The guy in the video doubting the whole process probably isn't aware of Major Ed Dames' group and the things they've accomplished (ie - predicting 9.0 earthquake in Indonesia in the exact month, finding the remains of a girl missing 30 years ago buried in the ground in the middle of nowhere, etc.). The more you put into it, the more you'll get out, especially as a group. You can acheive 80-100% accuracy. This isn't a joke.
DEBUNKED!!!!! There is a lot we do not understand about this planet...BECAUSE THE SCIENCE HAS NOT BEEN PERFECTED YET!!! eventually, and it might be a sad day, all mystery will be revealed.
Lol if it was me i would have the one pic in an envelope, but use slight of hand later, and pull out like 5 pictures.
This one, oh yeah that looks right. Look how similar.
Oh wait that wasn't it at all, it was this. Oh nope. it was that one. Etc.
Or go to another room afterwards and get them to pick which one out of a lineup. That would start to be impressive. Then go back to the origional and show them what it was.
But why then the military has invested so much money when it allegedly does not work? They certainly will have also had many failures but certainly a percentage of the right was the one could not explain. So that you can Exclude accident
Seems like the same old cold reading technique. Draw 4 or 5 rough sketches of different, non-specific objects, and let the "instructor" determine which one most fits the target. Of course, the instructor has no agenda in the matter (other than possibly duping the gullible out of their cash or selling a book). Remote viewing is entirely subjective and non-scientific. Where's the critical thinking people? Are we all just a bunch of Lemmings, eager to follow anything an "expert" says?
@MrReactor1 doesn't work like that bro, I know about this and work with RV pretty regularly. Some things go through the channel, some don't. IMO a blank page is of the kind that don't.
In any case RV is like Poker. The system works, you just don't judge on a single test (one hand), you judge after 100 or 1000 hands. For me it works well enough and consistently enough that I make money on sports bets (tests still ongoing, doubled initial amount)
@MrReactor1 If u put a blank page on there, they will view the last person that had contact with the blank page. Also not all remote viewers have to even be in the room. Heck, I can do this from my living room =P
If would be best if Shermer made them bet money on their guesses. If the ability is so reliable and above chance, then why shouldn't they risk something of real value? The two people who participated in the experiment were supposed to be the best in the group ;)
How come Shermer picked something that could so easily be tied to circles? He specifically said he trying to avoid boxes and circles, but he picked picture of galaxies...?
I wish he had picked something like a shoe or the statue of David.
at the end of the day...FROM A PARANORMAL ENTHUSIAST POINT OF VIEW, I also know the science says it needs to be above CHANCE. And 1 out of 4 as the instructor mentioned in the video, is WAY below chance. It's the old coinflip situation.......
Ok ok, best out of 3? wait, I didnt like the results, so best out of 7.....no....wait...
This stuff doesn't even make intelligible predictions, so predicting above and below chance is not the issue here. Its merely a process of retrospectively linking symbols to concrete things, which is absurdly easy for humans, since its what so much of our higher mental capacity is oriented towards.
What about the remote viewer that won the prestigious Merit of Legion award from the US military? Oh wait, no mention of things like that on a skeptic video? watch?v=FXD679gXlZ8&feature=related at 2:35 30 years of Remote Viewing. Remote Viewing = Proven, and utilized to this day by the military. Shermer your such biased ass. You always show the half you think will sway people from believing. Then spin your skeptic opinion on things.
Shermer has no interest in deeply investigating the phenomenon. He has an agenda and structures his presentation accordingly. Just with his debunking of psychics, he chooses the people who are borderline charlatans. 90% of psychics probably are charlatans but the few legitimate ones do exist and what they do is mind blowing. There are buddhist monks and Indian gurus, American Indians and many others who do extraordinary things but 1) Shermer wouldn't be interested in presenting them and
@jasoninparis There no such thing as psychic powers. Just because someone is descended from or part of an ancient culture doesn't entite them to psychic super powers.
@EclecticSceptic Not psychic powers at all. If anyone can do it with training, it's a learnable skill. You could do it, if you knew how it's done
My tasker (guy who prepares sessions, so we can make money with Associative RV) only agreed to do a few tests to prove to me it can't really work. Complete skeptic, figured that it was the easy way to show RV is bogus: do everything right on his side, and lose, cause it doesn't work
Then a few won bets later, still skeptic but he's now my tasker :)
@firuinthehouse Of course. If they predicted what they saw before finding out where the person was they would fail 99% of the time. After they see where the person is they scramble together their scrawlings of rough shapes and words and try to say "AHA! I told you it was something wet with a triangle and a sky above it!".
I wouldn't call it a skill. I would call it charlatanism. It's like saying warm-reading is a skill.
@EclecticSceptic Umm.. not sure I understand what you're saying there
In any case, are you familiar with Associative RV ? That stuff is NOT subjective and open to interpretation, as the sessions don't remain simple descriptions.
The descriptions are then taken and converted into bets (claims about the future if you will) and then you can measure some actual deviation from pure chance. Logically there should be none, but with good ARV, there usually is.
billygutter01: Your response holds the very reasoning behind why they wouldn't share such information. The fact that it's real isn't even a secret anymore. The real debate is on the theories that explain it.
"The real debate is on the theories that explain it."??
It's not even proven to work!! Why on earth should anyone give any credence to this claim? To simply say that it works is pure assertion. Where are the double-blind tests to verify that it's a real phenomenon that can't be attributed to chance? Has anyone submitted these sorts of tests to a peer-reviewed science journal? Is there any consensus as to a possible mechanism by which this phenomenon might operate?
Do some research. It's 100% a fact to exist, work, and be repeatable in research. Your personal research can start in the video I posted in the above thread. The video shows a man that won the "Legion of merit" award by remote viewing for the military. He even gives his name. File a FOIA, if you don't believe it. I COULD, further references, but your being lazy. Ill say it one last time, it exists. PERIOD. If you want to see how, do some foot work.
The link you mentioned leads to something unrelated to remote viewing. Was it the paranoid guy that said if he divulged his sources he'd disappear..? Is that you wanted me to see?
The directions are pointed out in the same sentence of that post, skip ahead in the video to 2:35
watch?v=FXD679gXlZ8&feature The video even posts a quick scroll by of his award. I encourage you to read up on the "Legion of Merit award". I hope your research doesn't end here. Keep an open mind, look for truth.
So I had a look at some articles on RV,l Joe Mcmoneagle and Stargate. It doesn't seem like there wasn't any independent verification of the SRI studies (which seem to be some of their most often referenced research). There were also procedural problems with the tests themselves, in that the interpreter (Ed May) was always the same person, and that he knew the targets before assessing the accuracy of the readers.
It's interesting stuff, but it's too subjective to call proof.
Keep going. You haven't even begun to tap into it. Did you look up what the legion of merit award is? The main reason I linked that specific video was because it shows a scroll by of his award itself. Also, be prepared to send out a few FOIAs, Or visit the black vault to fill in some blanks here and there. Also, you might wanna google police use psychic
firstly, sorry i marked it as spam. i was meant to hit 'reply', any way to undo the 'marked as spam'? :S
I have done some homework, and the very few studies I've seen seem to all either lack proper protocol and/or inadequate controls. I've been to many sites that offer anecdotal evidence at best. Also they fail to be reproducible. If you have some peer reviewed articles please do provide a link, i would enjoy reading them. No meta-analysis please.
You have to remember to count the 'misses' as well as the 'hits'. For example, how many dreams have you had, that didnt' come true. That's the problem with these types of concepts.
Yes this has happened to me before but the strangest thing was dream telepathy. One night I had a nightmare about ghosts (I NEVER have nightmares), my sister who was asleep in the room next door had a dream about ghosts as well. We both woke up from our nightmare on the same night and experienced increase heart beat and anxiety. In her dream it was her deceased husband who died 6 years ago, in my dream my sister was their along with a ghost which we both RECOGNIZED. Im bit skeptical of ghost btw
@RebelVoDKa That's actually not an issue. I worked with a friend who was 100% skeptic, then I showed him it can be used with good enough accuracy to make money, and now he's no longer so skeptical about it.
If my sessions can match images he chose in his own home on his computer, good enough to beat sporting bets odds, then there's clearly an effect in there. Explain it how you wish, if you have a clear deviation from chance there is a measurable effect.
"let me know when the world is intelligent enough to realise esp is non existent"
Nah, you can remain foolish while the open-minded test the boundaries of the mind. You ever had a dream and it occurs exactly the very next day (an example of precognition, ESP).
yes that has happened to me a few times, and it is NOT an example of precognition. Its an example of selection bias. Remember the hits, ignore the misses. While a few dreams have come true, why haven't the majority of them, as in 99.9%? With the amount we dream we are BOUND to have a few hits. Its the same with the IMMENSE amount of thoughts we have per day. Nothing more then statistics + selection bias. Stop being so foolish and close minded toward statistics
"While a few dreams have come true, why haven't the majority of them, as in 99.9%"
It depends on how often you record your dreams and the duration of time if it was to happen when in the awakened state. If you haven't tried, keep a journal and log your dreams (including the date and time you wake up) to see what happens.
"Stop being so foolish and close minded toward statistics"
You ever experienced dream telepathy? You and a family member, loved one, etc. What are those chances?
Random, 'weird' things happen, in fact it would be weird for them to NOT happen. It is chance.
I never read horoscopes but a few years ago i randomly did, it said 'an old friend will call you', guess what, my best friend in 1st grade called me to catch up that very day
Just the other week i had a random thought about my girlfriends friend Stewart, along the lines of him and his girlfriend not going well. 2 hours later i found that they broke up.
Again, its selection bias. dont ignore the misses
Random things do happen, im not disputing that. Im only stating if you keep a log of your dreams (including the time you wake up and the length of time if it occurs) you may notice a pattern. The 99.9% of dreams not becoming premonitions is a false percentage unless you remember ALL of your dreams every night and keep track.
Horoscopes are silly which is why I never read them or take them seriously.
So how about it, have you ever experienced dream telepathy? if so, how many times
Precognitive dreams can be entirely explained by chance and selective memory only IN PRINCIPLE. In the real world, there are too many uncontrolled factors to be confident of this. Yet you seem so sure that these normal explanations account for all cases. This is typical pseudosceptical behaviour. The proper way to proceed is to conduct a scientific experiment and control for chance and memory biases etc. And guess what? The experiments work. Precognition is real. Do some homework chum.
The reason this cannot be called science is because its useless until the end result is revealed. You can make no predictions with this, all you can do is look back at your drawings and try to make them fit into the end result.
Modern physics shows that all matter is super positioned. This means that our consciousness too may not be restricted by space or time. We are able to move our consciousness out of our bodies, and infarct we do it nightly. We retreat into our sub contentiousness, where time and space is irrelevant, where all possibilities exist. All matter is everywhere and all matter is nowhere. but when we view it, it THERE, IT IS but only when we look upon it.
-The presence of a skeptic lessens the effect? Of course, because you'll have someone scrutinizing the work, rather than affirming it.
-Results are never 100%. Never 90%, never even 50%... The results are always pathetic.
-Results are always vague as hell! As far as I'm concerned, a circle does NOT represent Hubble Deep Field. I thought it was remote VIEWING, not remote GENERALIZATION?
this son of a bitch has been debunked publically on different occasions by different people. THROW IN THE FUCKING TOWEL ASSHOLE- go sell fruit and get some genuine work
Radio waves are a MEASURABLE form of energy. We can not only measure them, we can manipulate them with scientific means.
Psychic power is not measurable, and has CONSISTENTLY failed to be measurable or even detectable when placed under scientific controls.
Circles are one of the MOST COMMON shapes. You can draw a circle, and then claim it was a wheel, person's head, an eye, a tube, a tunnel, a cave, a hole, a planet, a moon, a star, a stone, or dozens of other things. It's a fit-all shape.
i can tell only one thing .. radio was bulshiet also before bell make it actually works. the radio waves exist but u cannot see them , same there can exist another kind of waves and our brains can actually detect and interpetate them .
Michael Shermer lied. The picture that was in the envelope was actually of my penis. The woman (Beverly, if I remember correctly) even stated "It was cylindrical, long, and there was possibly one structure moving inside of another". Coincidence? I think not.
This is totally a scam, they cant see anything and you cant develop it, either you have it or not and only very very few people have it. I have seen many videos like that and 60 minutes a long time ago and never seen anyone with the skillz in such programs. They always draw circles, triangles and squares and says its a succes. Thats ridiculous, just look in your room, isnt all things squares, circles and triangles? I have seen a woman that had some scary abilities, she could find dead people
Wow those "remote viewers" got nothing right and still that guy is trying to defend their poor and inaccurate "hits." Then again, he teaches that stuff, so any conflicting data he has to somehow turn into a "hit" and make it seem more remarkable than what it really is.
It seems to me that every single example, verbal and sketch is quite similar to either the picture itself or the telescope that took the picture.
Interesting is, at 1:10 she describes the movement of telescope almost perfectly. She uses her hands to show vertical movement and her guess of a ferris wheel to describe lateral movement. Everything rings huge truth to the picture, in spite of the abstract nature of the picture. I wish I would have been there.
If you're still not convinced I suggest you see the huge amount of evidence against the effectiveness of remote viewing that's in the military report mentioned in the first segment
well, before i watched the vid, i was like; "why doesnt michael shermer bring his own picture in and test these psychics? i was like, why doesnt he bring a picture of a galaxy? i bet none of them will ever guess a galaxy" and they all got it wrong. then after watchin the vid, i was like OMG NO WAYYYYYYYYYYY
Did you know that The Rothshild Family, supported Mccain, and the Rothschilds are worth over 700 Trillion dollars? and they are scam artists, and run the world, They control Interest Rates, and Print the money out of thin air, Loan money to all the governments, and collect Interest? Fund both sides of all the wars, and collect interest, setup 9/11 so the U.S could invade Iraq and Afghanistan, and then the Rothschilds could build their Central Banks, in BOTH Countries.
haha, well, I know there is factual information about one of the Rothschilds and what he did, by making people think that Napoleon won the battle, everyone sold their stock, and it was worth next to nothing, and so Rothschild, bought the stock, for next to nothing, because he knew that Napoleon was actually defeated, he got the news before the public, and then everyone found out, and bought the stock, so he bought the entire British Economy, that's a FACT.
How are they even remote viewing anything? They didn't even OBE or anything.
The military didn't use people who just sat and thought about shit, they had them lie down and obe their targets.
14sJakeB190 1 month ago
The woman nailed it.. Bigger than shit!
ChristianDHX 4 months ago
Why only old guillible cunts participate in the RV class?
NewWaysMusic 4 months ago
drawing fail.
kabloozie 4 months ago
I wish the mustache guy was the person marking my exam papers. "1 + 1 = 18. That's close, enough. I'll give you an A"
Smithpolly 5 months ago
3:00 in, you want a spade mate, keep digging your hole
Haizum74 5 months ago
Everyone can readily agree that the RV results compared to the images are so weak that, even if true, we needn't worry about terrorists reading the launch codes or blue prints for our nuclear missiles.
Shermer is such an idiot.
matt605 6 months ago
The ultimate test is to use the drawing from the previous session and compare it to the image Shermer selected. Can the stonehenge RV results be twisted into matching the Hubble picture and vice-versa?
If you believe they cannot, then RV is better than randomness and more than subjective validation.
All I can say is that I'm thankful Shermer wasn't there when Edison's first light bulb burned only 40 hours. No use for that at all!
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@matt605
Did you actually go out of your way to make no sense whatsoever? If so, you did a damned good job of it.
TeapotMullah 1 week ago
@TeapotMullah Well you must have misunderstood me. The point I was making is that something like remote viewing has significant national security implications. America must lead in the study and development of Remote Viewing so that, if real, terrorists cannot remotely read our missile blueprints or our nuclear launch codes. And remember that today's RV might be like Edison's first light bulb-- weak and undeveloped. But look at the Las Vegas strip in 1980, just a century later!
matt605 1 week ago
Michael Shermer is a complete 100% dumbass, a picture of 99.999999999999% empty space galaxy is NOT a target. Use a REAL target.
eckre 6 months ago
@eckre According to him, they said on their website that they have remote viewed galaxies so it is a real target.
Smithpolly 5 months ago
@Smithpolly No, they are looking things in the Galaxy's, the guy is a complete fraud, he just went through the training, a target must have : 1. Texture 2. Colors 3. Smell 4. Taste 5. Temperatures 6. Sounds 7. Dimensions (motions and density) and 8. Aesthetic impact. He chose something that would be almost impossible to describe in those terms even IF you could see the picture. Go ahead and describe those eight things for all of us using his picture of millions of year old light.
eckre 5 months ago
@eckre I describe the picture as black with a lot of lights in it. I wouldn't describe it as a horse drawn carriage or someone passing away or symoblising a crossing because it was going over a river or a Chinese Wall or a rocket or an oil drum or a cement mixer or Teddy Roosevelt or a fan tailed jet engine.
Smithpolly 5 months ago
"Look! Look! A circular object! Its a galaxy!" Wow, such underwhelming evidence. That psychologist is a complete moron. Know what else is circular and rotates? A roulette wheel, a bicycle wheel, a tire, a ferris wheel, a carousel, etc. etc. Draw a circle and then try to find every object in your room that is shaped somewhat like a circle. You can't possibly be wrong!
Blackbeard280 7 months ago 3
I don't know how they can concentrate enough to do SRV in a place like that. Probably not as shady as Ed Dames but wayne carr is still screwing them.
shiningpaths 7 months ago
Ok, so they are to guess what is inside a envelope? stupid. Maybe give them a real location, this is your target.. and in RL put an object or person in that area. If they could do remote viewing they would be able to describe a person or object not in the picture but is in the pictures area in real time. ex. satelite view of my house, is my car there or not?
the study is fail.
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Russ Dizdar interviews former remote viewer John.
Q&A A former Remote viewer speaks out. What does the remote viewer tap into?
What do you all think of this? John seems very sincere about his experience has anyone had similar experiences as he has? Such as experiencing intelligent nonhuman entities?
GuarddogForGod 9 months ago
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Russ Dizdar interviews former remote viewer John.
Q&A A former Remote viewer speaks out. What does the remote viewer tap into?
What do you all think of this? John seems very sincere about his experience has anyone had similar experiences as he has? Such as experiencing intelligent nonhuman entities?
GuarddogForGod 9 months ago
RV is Channel Demonic spirits the info comes from them the fallen this is what they don't tell people.As he said they don't know where the info comes from. This false theologies that cause believers 2 doubt, all kinds of false standards of spirituality that causes believers 2 think that they’re not really required 2 live with Gods Laws. We are warned about this when u contact u open yourself up 2 spirits and most are demonic in this realm I know this to be fact if they say diff they are lying
zipfreer 9 months ago
Delusional people like this need to be "fixed" like dogs. Even more so they should be "fixed" with a rusty lid from a tin can (dogs should be treated more humanely).
SuperFuckyourgod 10 months ago
Space telescope photos do not meet the criteria to be used as photosites for remote viewing targets. This experiment was designed to fail.
Ideal photosites need to show the target as it can actually be seen for real by the naked eye.
InSightRV 11 months ago
@InSightRV no not true, I've viewed some space anomalies b4...Jupiter is interesting. However one thing at a time b4 u scare ppl with the thought of tall thin yellow aliens. I am kind of puzzled as to why alot of these remote viewers have to be in the same room together? I do my best viewing alone & blind to target as always. technically couldn't they just b given a target and told to view it from thousand of miles away?
Wolfsbane909 10 months ago
It's not 100%. It's closer to 0%
cunnidvd 11 months ago
what the hell you cant remote view a galaxy! thats not tangible or even comprehensible haha
EDDN20 11 months ago
It looks like the great wall of China.... I mean a galaxy.
justicetrooper 1 year ago 11
@justicetrooper HAHA nice comment!
thomask365 10 months ago
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justicetrooper 1 year ago
I personally have grievances with all parties involved, here. The psychics' defense was outright laughable, what with "not the easiest of targets" and whatnot. However, it's also undeniable that the act of being observed changes the observed. As a pianist, I perform much better alone than on stage the vast majority of the time. The experiment this time didn't account for that, so I'd have preferred that the subjects were told it was a normal session.
Oathblivion 1 year ago 3
the problem for lack of accuracy in that experiment was that the Remote Viewers actually concentrated on the wrong target. They fell in the trap of concentrating on the envelop ...
To get the best results in that test, their focus and concentration needed to be on Michael and what he intended to put in the envelop. " Something nebulous...hard to describe....Bam..a galaxy !!! "
tommyho74 1 year ago
I saw a cylindric cube that looks like pyramid.
Dimy761 1 year ago 2
2:15 "i deliberately took something that was not a circle cause thats what you always draw"
2:55 "She has got circles and some arrows in a rotating motion"
So the conclusion is that Shermer is psychic and knew in advance what they would draw
omnissient 1 year ago 3
@omnissient Shermer should've done the test out of multiple targets bearing in mind the success rate for them is 15%, but that was the 80s..its the 21st century now..i agree it is kind of douchey, why do they even have 2B in the same room as the envelope??
Wolfsbane909 10 months ago
the psychics are basically full of shit.
lhurien 1 year ago
Dampening effect. Negative vibrations. Blocking the energy. God doesn't like being tested.
Every time a child says "I don't believe in fairies", a fairy dies. Only people with crimes to hide attack Scientology. If you don't accept Jesus, you'll burn - as you deserve.
I'll be praying for those who disagree, because I am a disciple of Love, and you can be sure of that, because I used a capital L.
DrakeDun 1 year ago
So their strategy is just to claim its a win even though they faled miserably? And then quickly hide the picture that reveals their failure?
omnissient 1 year ago 20
These guys hardly looked like they were trying at all. good SEE ME AFTER CLASS!
DarkKnightBob1o1 1 year ago 3
Hmm am quite curious if the man who made this video also has this yt channel.
So a few things to keep in mind:
- The guy running the course is not a RV Guru or anything, in fact I've never seen him outside of this video.
- RV works about 2 out of 3 times on average, even for EXPERT viewers. So the trainer trying to prove ALL sessions were on target was kinda stretched. Doesn't happen like that even in ideal conditions with pro viewers.
- Associative RV is not subjective, it shows clear numbers
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
So in my opinion Associative RV is the ONLY way that could ever prove RV, and also something I'd invite any skeptic to explain away. It's not coincidence if it shows a clear deviation from pure chance. By definition if something is a clear deviation from pure chance it cannot be a coincidence
For instance I've successfully won ARV bets using space targets. My description was lame, more like deep dark sea with something sparkling, but good enough to identify the correct picture out of a pair.
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
quantum physics state that the mere observation of a phenomenon can alter it's outcome. AKA "The observer effect". thumbs up if you know what im talking about =D
TEHNOOBSHOW6 1 year ago 2
@TEHNOOBSHOW6 Thumbs up if you DON'T know what he's talking about
italy1677 1 year ago
@italy1677 lolz i seems you dont know what im talking about XP just google "the observer effect" =D
TEHNOOBSHOW6 1 year ago
@TEHNOOBSHOW6 Thumbs up if you DON'T want to google "the observer effect"
italy1677 1 year ago
@TEHNOOBSHOW6 Shouldn't be an issue with RV, as far as I've read and tested. If you got an OK viewer, and test on more than 1 session (like 5-10 at least) then along the way there will be enough great data that will not be explainable via coincidence.
IMO the best way to prove RV works is to have a tasker-viewer team, do Associative RV, and measure the clear deviation from chance. So far mine is pretty good. Skeptics are invited to explain it away if they can :)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
looks like an example of humans practicing patternicity to me ;o)
shutterbugwink 1 year ago
Well I am a person who thinks there is always something fantastic or unknown somewhere...I also am inclined to believe with out the right proof there is no unexplained thing in the said location. I didn't see anything conclusive here. It was to much of a horseshoe contest, these people literally through out a number of possibilities that could account for everything. The search for the unknown continues
ryudragon7 1 year ago
@ryudragon7 ARV shows a clear measurable effect. Check my videos, I put this shit to the test with a skeptic friend, and so far we have clear deviation from chance.
Meaning we used RV to get enough info about the future, to place correct sporting bets, 7 out of 8 times so far. The 1 miss was right at the beginning, while we were still tuning the system. Once we added enough redundancy, no misses since then.
So right now we have "coincidence" in our favor 7 out of 8 times, and counting :)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
The guy running the course was kinda weak.
I do RV, and know awesome readers with incredible results. I have started some betting tests to see if it could make some money, and it worked very well so far. Above expectations. It can be done, if you are willing to do the research and put in the work.
No I will not do any lame "what's in my pocket" tests here on youtube, especially the comments, as the number of sessions are limited in a day, and right now mine bring in the $ :)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
LOL if somebody drew a piece of shit, the guy who runs the course would still try and say it was correct somehow lol.
2010Barbon 1 year ago
LOL - Shermer needs to practice his sleight of hand a bit more. He nearly pulls all 3 pictures out of the envelope at 2:34. He also uses an editing fade to prevent the viewer from seeing that the others are still in there.
kkkaldav 1 year ago 5
Is he selling the Program?
Topazman12 1 year ago
These people are not the cream of the crop at all. Report incomplete.
jptc123 1 year ago 2
The end of this video is the best. I actually laughed out loud. Oh, the classic "skeptic dampening the psychic power trick." How come his being there didn't dampen the psychic energy in the first half?
authorless 1 year ago
@authorless Hey, maybe there was an twin in the room or something.
Wolfsbane909 10 months ago
What normally happens:
1) People claim to have extraordinary abilities (and they probably believe it).
2) They demonstrate this amazing ability and convince the gullible.
3) They are put to a double-blind test and fail.
4) The excuses start coming in one after another to explain away why the test was a failure.
5) They continue believing even after being exposed to reality.
TheLogos1 1 year ago 3
@TheLogos1 Well that's why people shouldn't do simple tests liek that. ARV is a great way to test it. Associative RV I mean. Start betting, make money, then after a few hundred bets you should be able to prove a HUGE deviation from pure chance, in the viewer's favor.
This is what I started to do, and so far the initial numbers look well. Cash has started to come in, and we're well above pure chance. Does RV work ? No idea. Has it made me money ? Yes it has. For me that's proof enough.
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
That was a bitch of target. Give that one to Ingo Swann. He could probably get it.
D4Shawn 1 year ago
rubbish , they were not even close haha ..
mrsyd01 1 year ago
Busted.
MusicHypno 1 year ago
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signatureinthecell 1 year ago
That must have been a very awkward meeting between these people...when the camera's went off they probably told each other to go to hell.
jarden69 1 year ago
was that deep field image the one taken in the constellation ursa major ?
troonorth 1 year ago
@troonorth i only asked this because i was wondering if anyone else saw that this was indeed the deep field picture that hubble telescope took in the constellation ursa major, known as the great bear to greek and latin and many native americans, but in german, slovak and east european countries and scandinavia and england was known as the "peasant's wagon" which later became known as the wagon of charlemagne, or "charles' wain"
troonorth 1 year ago 5
The remote viewing advocates say it's a sense. it doesn't act like one. All our senses are %100 accurate. We look at a cat, we see a cat not a vague shape that may be a cow, car or comet. I love the ending - the teacher is in total denial. I'm remote veiwing right now watching youtube.
LetzBeaFranque 1 year ago
1:51 to 1:55 ROTFL hahahah , she want to say life is great
szalam555 1 year ago
I would have chosen a smaller location on earth, instead of something nobody on earth really has any good understanding of like Hubble Deep Field
lumbug 1 year ago
Of all the dumb psychic / whacko beliefs, remote viewing is probably the dumbest. Lazy irrational thinking at its worst.
zybyl 1 year ago
THe photo could have been of a motorcycle and they'd apply the "cylindrical" and "circular motion to it. The whirlpool of energy would have been the gas tank...etc.
Eldeecue 1 year ago
The guy in the video doubting the whole process probably isn't aware of Major Ed Dames' group and the things they've accomplished (ie - predicting 9.0 earthquake in Indonesia in the exact month, finding the remains of a girl missing 30 years ago buried in the ground in the middle of nowhere, etc.). The more you put into it, the more you'll get out, especially as a group. You can acheive 80-100% accuracy. This isn't a joke.
LesPaulElitist 2 years ago
I was expecting them to secretly change the picture.. guess they didn't have enough time
kinomyway 2 years ago
DEBUNKED!!!!! There is a lot we do not understand about this planet...BECAUSE THE SCIENCE HAS NOT BEEN PERFECTED YET!!! eventually, and it might be a sad day, all mystery will be revealed.
alexpoutine 2 years ago 3
Lol if it was me i would have the one pic in an envelope, but use slight of hand later, and pull out like 5 pictures.
This one, oh yeah that looks right. Look how similar.
Oh wait that wasn't it at all, it was this. Oh nope. it was that one. Etc.
Or go to another room afterwards and get them to pick which one out of a lineup. That would start to be impressive. Then go back to the origional and show them what it was.
lubermanl 2 years ago
they did cancel the stargate program
SKERLOK 2 years ago
no matter what, the people who believe in psychic powers will see what they want to see.
NaomiChambers 2 years ago 3
But why then the military has invested so much money when it allegedly does not work? They certainly will have also had many failures but certainly a percentage of the right was the one could not explain. So that you can Exclude accident
Para1982para 2 years ago
Fair enough.
mercury337 2 years ago
if i was Mr Shermer, i would have put an empty paper into the envelope.
andiszek 2 years ago
haha great idea!
msquestionmark 2 years ago
hahaha busted!
Makdub 2 years ago
Seems like the same old cold reading technique. Draw 4 or 5 rough sketches of different, non-specific objects, and let the "instructor" determine which one most fits the target. Of course, the instructor has no agenda in the matter (other than possibly duping the gullible out of their cash or selling a book). Remote viewing is entirely subjective and non-scientific. Where's the critical thinking people? Are we all just a bunch of Lemmings, eager to follow anything an "expert" says?
jab6265 2 years ago
lmao michael shermer is funny but this post was very interesting
lp22hot 2 years ago
pure guesswork
dylans8 2 years ago
im training on remote viewing and i gotta say..
its REAL
HYPERspace2012 2 years ago
Where do you do this?
MadeForGibsons 2 years ago
They should have had put a blank page in that envelope.
MrReactor1 2 years ago 43
@MrReactor1 doesn't work like that bro, I know about this and work with RV pretty regularly. Some things go through the channel, some don't. IMO a blank page is of the kind that don't.
In any case RV is like Poker. The system works, you just don't judge on a single test (one hand), you judge after 100 or 1000 hands. For me it works well enough and consistently enough that I make money on sports bets (tests still ongoing, doubled initial amount)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
@MrReactor1 If u put a blank page on there, they will view the last person that had contact with the blank page. Also not all remote viewers have to even be in the room. Heck, I can do this from my living room =P
Wolfsbane909 10 months ago
@MrReactor1 Good point, I mean a really good point.
johneamer 8 months ago
@MrReactor1 they pretty much did. blank space 99.9999999% empty.
eckre 6 months ago
I there are people, who can do miracle stuff .. well, why AREN'T THEY MILLIONAIRES?
Like those who calim to see into future ..
Well, what holds you to see which investment project will make it big and invest. Easy?
All lies!!!
MrReactor1 2 years ago
If would be best if Shermer made them bet money on their guesses. If the ability is so reliable and above chance, then why shouldn't they risk something of real value? The two people who participated in the experiment were supposed to be the best in the group ;)
lodevijk 2 years ago
How come Shermer picked something that could so easily be tied to circles? He specifically said he trying to avoid boxes and circles, but he picked picture of galaxies...?
I wish he had picked something like a shoe or the statue of David.
Chingachgook12 2 years ago 3
at the end of the day...FROM A PARANORMAL ENTHUSIAST POINT OF VIEW, I also know the science says it needs to be above CHANCE. And 1 out of 4 as the instructor mentioned in the video, is WAY below chance. It's the old coinflip situation.......
Ok ok, best out of 3? wait, I didnt like the results, so best out of 7.....no....wait...
ResearchParanormal 2 years ago
This stuff doesn't even make intelligible predictions, so predicting above and below chance is not the issue here. Its merely a process of retrospectively linking symbols to concrete things, which is absurdly easy for humans, since its what so much of our higher mental capacity is oriented towards.
wid85 2 years ago
What about the remote viewer that won the prestigious Merit of Legion award from the US military? Oh wait, no mention of things like that on a skeptic video? watch?v=FXD679gXlZ8&feature=related at 2:35 30 years of Remote Viewing. Remote Viewing = Proven, and utilized to this day by the military. Shermer your such biased ass. You always show the half you think will sway people from believing. Then spin your skeptic opinion on things.
GUILDGOB 2 years ago
Shermer has no interest in deeply investigating the phenomenon. He has an agenda and structures his presentation accordingly. Just with his debunking of psychics, he chooses the people who are borderline charlatans. 90% of psychics probably are charlatans but the few legitimate ones do exist and what they do is mind blowing. There are buddhist monks and Indian gurus, American Indians and many others who do extraordinary things but 1) Shermer wouldn't be interested in presenting them and
jasoninparis 2 years ago 4
@jasoninparis What extraordinary things do American Indians (Native Americans?) and many others do?
R0YB0T 1 year ago
@R0YB0T There are shamans who levitate. Doctors who heal with an electricity-type energy moving through their bodies.
TheHitez 1 year ago
@TheHitez
There are no humans who can levitate without using a jetpack or a hovercraft of some sort.
R0YB0T 1 year ago
@jasoninparis There no such thing as psychic powers. Just because someone is descended from or part of an ancient culture doesn't entite them to psychic super powers.
EclecticSceptic 1 year ago
@EclecticSceptic Not psychic powers at all. If anyone can do it with training, it's a learnable skill. You could do it, if you knew how it's done
My tasker (guy who prepares sessions, so we can make money with Associative RV) only agreed to do a few tests to prove to me it can't really work. Complete skeptic, figured that it was the easy way to show RV is bogus: do everything right on his side, and lose, cause it doesn't work
Then a few won bets later, still skeptic but he's now my tasker :)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
@firuinthehouse Of course. If they predicted what they saw before finding out where the person was they would fail 99% of the time. After they see where the person is they scramble together their scrawlings of rough shapes and words and try to say "AHA! I told you it was something wet with a triangle and a sky above it!".
I wouldn't call it a skill. I would call it charlatanism. It's like saying warm-reading is a skill.
EclecticSceptic 1 year ago
@EclecticSceptic Umm.. not sure I understand what you're saying there
In any case, are you familiar with Associative RV ? That stuff is NOT subjective and open to interpretation, as the sessions don't remain simple descriptions.
The descriptions are then taken and converted into bets (claims about the future if you will) and then you can measure some actual deviation from pure chance. Logically there should be none, but with good ARV, there usually is.
See my video on this, I do it myself.
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
2) these authentic psychics have no interest in demonstrating to the world their powers, it goes against their spiritual beliefs.
jasoninparis 2 years ago 2
That's convenient.
billygutter01 2 years ago
billygutter01: Your response holds the very reasoning behind why they wouldn't share such information. The fact that it's real isn't even a secret anymore. The real debate is on the theories that explain it.
GUILDGOB 2 years ago
"The real debate is on the theories that explain it."??
It's not even proven to work!! Why on earth should anyone give any credence to this claim? To simply say that it works is pure assertion. Where are the double-blind tests to verify that it's a real phenomenon that can't be attributed to chance? Has anyone submitted these sorts of tests to a peer-reviewed science journal? Is there any consensus as to a possible mechanism by which this phenomenon might operate?
Any of these would help.
billygutter01 2 years ago
Do some research. It's 100% a fact to exist, work, and be repeatable in research. Your personal research can start in the video I posted in the above thread. The video shows a man that won the "Legion of merit" award by remote viewing for the military. He even gives his name. File a FOIA, if you don't believe it. I COULD, further references, but your being lazy. Ill say it one last time, it exists. PERIOD. If you want to see how, do some foot work.
GUILDGOB 2 years ago
GUILDGOB:
The link you mentioned leads to something unrelated to remote viewing. Was it the paranoid guy that said if he divulged his sources he'd disappear..? Is that you wanted me to see?
billygutter01 2 years ago
The directions are pointed out in the same sentence of that post, skip ahead in the video to 2:35
watch?v=FXD679gXlZ8&feature The video even posts a quick scroll by of his award. I encourage you to read up on the "Legion of Merit award". I hope your research doesn't end here. Keep an open mind, look for truth.
GUILDGOB 2 years ago
GUILGOB:
So I had a look at some articles on RV,l Joe Mcmoneagle and Stargate. It doesn't seem like there wasn't any independent verification of the SRI studies (which seem to be some of their most often referenced research). There were also procedural problems with the tests themselves, in that the interpreter (Ed May) was always the same person, and that he knew the targets before assessing the accuracy of the readers.
It's interesting stuff, but it's too subjective to call proof.
billygutter01 2 years ago
Keep going. You haven't even begun to tap into it. Did you look up what the legion of merit award is? The main reason I linked that specific video was because it shows a scroll by of his award itself. Also, be prepared to send out a few FOIAs, Or visit the black vault to fill in some blanks here and there. Also, you might wanna google police use psychic
GUILDGOB 2 years ago
@billygutter01 Thank you sane person.
EclecticSceptic 1 year ago
@jasoninparis how convenient
zoina21 1 year ago
gaaaaaaay
zestos 2 years ago
All the implications of whats in a galaxy could be applied in comparison to a simple thing.
Wish he'd have picked something more in between.
sidsixpoint7 2 years ago
Did you ask your self why he chose a galaxy insted of say a car?
NeoKailthas 2 years ago
lol.... such bullshit.
Cansololife 2 years ago
I love how he tries to make the sketches fit. So desperate...
mcmoogol 2 years ago
for me was kinda a spaceship XD closed though
annie123ya 2 years ago
firstly, sorry i marked it as spam. i was meant to hit 'reply', any way to undo the 'marked as spam'? :S
I have done some homework, and the very few studies I've seen seem to all either lack proper protocol and/or inadequate controls. I've been to many sites that offer anecdotal evidence at best. Also they fail to be reproducible. If you have some peer reviewed articles please do provide a link, i would enjoy reading them. No meta-analysis please.
AreYouSancho1 2 years ago 2
to unmark spam you just hit the ''show'' button
wannabeastarrover 2 years ago
You have to remember to count the 'misses' as well as the 'hits'. For example, how many dreams have you had, that didnt' come true. That's the problem with these types of concepts.
crazykb 2 years ago 5
Yes this has happened to me before but the strangest thing was dream telepathy. One night I had a nightmare about ghosts (I NEVER have nightmares), my sister who was asleep in the room next door had a dream about ghosts as well. We both woke up from our nightmare on the same night and experienced increase heart beat and anxiety. In her dream it was her deceased husband who died 6 years ago, in my dream my sister was their along with a ghost which we both RECOGNIZED. Im bit skeptical of ghost btw
mounthydra 2 years ago
i did it first fucking guess!!..just hit the pause button on the envolope
XxDEFTONESxX 2 years ago
lol i my guess is much better than those 2 person.
dontlistentomeimmute 2 years ago
Ah, the old sceptics dampening effect! What a great get-out clause!
RebelVoDKa 2 years ago 20
@RebelVoDKa That's actually not an issue. I worked with a friend who was 100% skeptic, then I showed him it can be used with good enough accuracy to make money, and now he's no longer so skeptical about it.
If my sessions can match images he chose in his own home on his computer, good enough to beat sporting bets odds, then there's clearly an effect in there. Explain it how you wish, if you have a clear deviation from chance there is a measurable effect.
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
"yup and all of that happens in your HEAD"
Be a little more specific. If its happening in your head, then what part of it, the meat, the neural circuitry, the brains EM field????
mounthydra 2 years ago
"let me know when the world is intelligent enough to realise esp is non existent"
Nah, you can remain foolish while the open-minded test the boundaries of the mind. You ever had a dream and it occurs exactly the very next day (an example of precognition, ESP).
mounthydra 2 years ago
yes that has happened to me a few times, and it is NOT an example of precognition. Its an example of selection bias. Remember the hits, ignore the misses. While a few dreams have come true, why haven't the majority of them, as in 99.9%? With the amount we dream we are BOUND to have a few hits. Its the same with the IMMENSE amount of thoughts we have per day. Nothing more then statistics + selection bias. Stop being so foolish and close minded toward statistics
AreYouSancho1 2 years ago
"While a few dreams have come true, why haven't the majority of them, as in 99.9%"
It depends on how often you record your dreams and the duration of time if it was to happen when in the awakened state. If you haven't tried, keep a journal and log your dreams (including the date and time you wake up) to see what happens.
"Stop being so foolish and close minded toward statistics"
You ever experienced dream telepathy? You and a family member, loved one, etc. What are those chances?
mounthydra 2 years ago
Random, 'weird' things happen, in fact it would be weird for them to NOT happen. It is chance.
I never read horoscopes but a few years ago i randomly did, it said 'an old friend will call you', guess what, my best friend in 1st grade called me to catch up that very day
Just the other week i had a random thought about my girlfriends friend Stewart, along the lines of him and his girlfriend not going well. 2 hours later i found that they broke up.
Again, its selection bias. dont ignore the misses
AreYouSancho1 2 years ago
Random things do happen, im not disputing that. Im only stating if you keep a log of your dreams (including the time you wake up and the length of time if it occurs) you may notice a pattern. The 99.9% of dreams not becoming premonitions is a false percentage unless you remember ALL of your dreams every night and keep track.
Horoscopes are silly which is why I never read them or take them seriously.
So how about it, have you ever experienced dream telepathy? if so, how many times
mounthydra 2 years ago
Precognitive dreams can be entirely explained by chance and selective memory only IN PRINCIPLE. In the real world, there are too many uncontrolled factors to be confident of this. Yet you seem so sure that these normal explanations account for all cases. This is typical pseudosceptical behaviour. The proper way to proceed is to conduct a scientific experiment and control for chance and memory biases etc. And guess what? The experiments work. Precognition is real. Do some homework chum.
electricfunk 2 years ago
Remote Fooling Your Self Experiment
mojrim2 2 years ago
actually, it would have been an incredibly easy "target." it's essentially a series of circles on a blank field. amazing no one hit it by chance.
lucybean975 2 years ago
The reason this cannot be called science is because its useless until the end result is revealed. You can make no predictions with this, all you can do is look back at your drawings and try to make them fit into the end result.
helloblah12223 2 years ago 3
Maybe they would have had better luck if they didn't use Hulk Hogan's dad.
cjdaweasel 2 years ago
Modern physics shows that all matter is super positioned. This means that our consciousness too may not be restricted by space or time. We are able to move our consciousness out of our bodies, and infarct we do it nightly. We retreat into our sub contentiousness, where time and space is irrelevant, where all possibilities exist. All matter is everywhere and all matter is nowhere. but when we view it, it THERE, IT IS but only when we look upon it.
How spooky is that!!! and that shit is TRUE!
devel155 2 years ago
yup and all of that happens in your HEAD!
MasterMike44 2 years ago
um, logical fallacy?
helloblah12223 2 years ago
Hubble Deep Field!! Fantastic choice!
It's always the same crap!!!
-The presence of a skeptic lessens the effect? Of course, because you'll have someone scrutinizing the work, rather than affirming it.
-Results are never 100%. Never 90%, never even 50%... The results are always pathetic.
-Results are always vague as hell! As far as I'm concerned, a circle does NOT represent Hubble Deep Field. I thought it was remote VIEWING, not remote GENERALIZATION?
DeusMerdaeEst is right on the money.
therugdoctoranimesux 2 years ago 3
this son of a bitch has been debunked publically on different occasions by different people. THROW IN THE FUCKING TOWEL ASSHOLE- go sell fruit and get some genuine work
thisisallidobitch7 2 years ago
let me know when the world is intelligent enough to realise esp is non existent
just what evolutionary advantage is determined by everyone knowing what you think on a hung over monday morning
foathkent 2 years ago
Radio waves are a MEASURABLE form of energy. We can not only measure them, we can manipulate them with scientific means.
Psychic power is not measurable, and has CONSISTENTLY failed to be measurable or even detectable when placed under scientific controls.
Circles are one of the MOST COMMON shapes. You can draw a circle, and then claim it was a wheel, person's head, an eye, a tube, a tunnel, a cave, a hole, a planet, a moon, a star, a stone, or dozens of other things. It's a fit-all shape.
ZeroCorpse 3 years ago 3
i can tell only one thing .. radio was bulshiet also before bell make it actually works. the radio waves exist but u cannot see them , same there can exist another kind of waves and our brains can actually detect and interpetate them .
marcusdavidus 3 years ago
These people are just like the godjunkies; they accept all the evidence in favor of their belief, and reject everything that contradicts it.
DeusMerdaeEst 3 years ago 4
These guys are slippery as eels. 'It works, but if you try to test it, that makes it not work.' Please.
Textra1 3 years ago
RV = nonsense.
Make enough vague predictions and you're bound to find something right. Ignore all the ones that are wrong.
Faustuss1 3 years ago
3:20 hahahahahaha I can't beleive how stupid some people are. That picture does not resemble the deep field image in any way.
adkinsjr 3 years ago
Michael Shermer lied. The picture that was in the envelope was actually of my penis. The woman (Beverly, if I remember correctly) even stated "It was cylindrical, long, and there was possibly one structure moving inside of another". Coincidence? I think not.
murderaddiction 3 years ago
So much for accuracy. : )
smilinglisyah 3 years ago
They should have lied and come with a blank page. Should have been easy enough.
arsenelupin123 3 years ago
This is totally a scam, they cant see anything and you cant develop it, either you have it or not and only very very few people have it. I have seen many videos like that and 60 minutes a long time ago and never seen anyone with the skillz in such programs. They always draw circles, triangles and squares and says its a succes. Thats ridiculous, just look in your room, isnt all things squares, circles and triangles? I have seen a woman that had some scary abilities, she could find dead people
legggggggggy 3 years ago
load of shit
basho81 3 years ago
Owned!
Philippians4x13 3 years ago
Wow those "remote viewers" got nothing right and still that guy is trying to defend their poor and inaccurate "hits." Then again, he teaches that stuff, so any conflicting data he has to somehow turn into a "hit" and make it seem more remarkable than what it really is.
Shutitup18 3 years ago 4
moar leik mickael SHEMALE, amirite?
geofree1984 3 years ago
It seems to me that every single example, verbal and sketch is quite similar to either the picture itself or the telescope that took the picture.
Interesting is, at 1:10 she describes the movement of telescope almost perfectly. She uses her hands to show vertical movement and her guess of a ferris wheel to describe lateral movement. Everything rings huge truth to the picture, in spite of the abstract nature of the picture. I wish I would have been there.
YouSpamTard 3 years ago
If you're still not convinced I suggest you see the huge amount of evidence against the effectiveness of remote viewing that's in the military report mentioned in the first segment
icanplaythatrole 3 years ago
am i spychic?
this is NO JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, before i watched the vid, i was like; "why doesnt michael shermer bring his own picture in and test these psychics? i was like, why doesnt he bring a picture of a galaxy? i bet none of them will ever guess a galaxy" and they all got it wrong. then after watchin the vid, i was like OMG NO WAYYYYYYYYYYY
daddyzaxan 3 years ago
I'm a devoted Christian and I want to say that I think Dr. Carr in this video is distorting facts favorably to support remote viewing.
With that said, please vote for McCain! White Power!
MaskedCartoon 3 years ago
Did you know that The Rothshild Family, supported Mccain, and the Rothschilds are worth over 700 Trillion dollars? and they are scam artists, and run the world, They control Interest Rates, and Print the money out of thin air, Loan money to all the governments, and collect Interest? Fund both sides of all the wars, and collect interest, setup 9/11 so the U.S could invade Iraq and Afghanistan, and then the Rothschilds could build their Central Banks, in BOTH Countries.
1981z28camaro 3 years ago
What evidence do you have about each of the accusations you make against the Rothshild family?
MaskedCartoon 3 years ago
haha, well, I know there is factual information about one of the Rothschilds and what he did, by making people think that Napoleon won the battle, everyone sold their stock, and it was worth next to nothing, and so Rothschild, bought the stock, for next to nothing, because he knew that Napoleon was actually defeated, he got the news before the public, and then everyone found out, and bought the stock, so he bought the entire British Economy, that's a FACT.
1981z28camaro 3 years ago
What are you talking about? Get off those magic mushrooms!
MaskedCartoon 3 years ago
maybe you should, lol, because it's true, :-)
1981z28camaro 3 years ago
yes, and jews start all wars...
igottaexplain 3 years ago
did I say Jews, start all wars? The Rothschilds arent Jewish by the way. They are Khazars, which are Fake Jews, lol
1981z28camaro 3 years ago
no you just said something equally ridiculous
igottaexplain 3 years ago
steak sauce
1981z28camaro 3 years ago