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  • oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH­HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..... wow, you learn something new everyday

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  • Yes. I have learned something too after 25 years playing!

  • I'm not sure where I am.. I learnt all the modes by doing three notes per string so I play C major at the 8th fret. I think I will try the saying the notes aloud! Bookmarked this video for later =)

  • Wow! I'm stunned! Seriously, this will take some time! LOL

  • on working on the major scale and it talks about 6-2 and 6-4 what does this mean?

  • gggg anyone has a tylenol?

    Im so confused I can barely close my mouth..

  • gggg anyone has a tylenol?

  • This dude sure knows a lot about this guitar technique to be down picking everything.... Killer lesson! Just something I was shocked by! haha

  • Great job! For anyone who found this a little too advanced for them, and want some help with those major scales, visit my channel to find my instructional videos.

    Thanks for posting. I like this practice you demonstrate. And great idea anchoring the guitar down in some sort of vice. I should have thought of that for my videos :)

  • Thank you.

  • what if i dont wanna learn major scales?, how can circle of fifths make me a better musician? sounds like a opinion to me. theres more to this because this teaches me nothing! only the notes on the fretboard which i already know

  • @MrCarnage7 You do really need it for composition.

  • 16 people play the ukalaly

  • great lesson. this is the first time the circle of 5ths actually was explained well and "clicked" for me.

  • I just lost it on this! Thanks for sharing.

  • so how exactly do learning circle of 5ths come into play when playing guitar? how does it help, what's its practicality? maybe if i knew i would be encouraged to learn it quicker

  • I would definatley not learn this first. I would start out playing a couple of songs with easy chords and stuff. then once you get REALLY into guitar its time to start with learning this. Cause if i wasnt already really into guitar i would never learn this boring stuff. ITs going to help me tho.(:

  • Is there a reason for you sticking to the strings 3,4 and 5. Im a 1 year learner and Im all over the place with chord construction, chord progression, scales, pentatonic scales, etc, etc ,etc. Its so difficult. I understand what Ive learned, its not being able to organize it in my head in a streamlined beneficial way. When you dont have a teacher youre constantly trying to evaluate what is really beneficial at your stage of developement. That for me is the hard part. Good video though.

  • this is extremely helpful. now i dont need music lessons. i can just sit my ass here n learn.

  • Yes, there is an E# in the F# major scale

  • I heard him say e-sharp?

  • I disagree with b4rf3r on the whole learning theory thing. I don't play guitar, but I've played violin for 13 years now and I can't even tell you what key has what sharps and flats, anything about the circle of fifths, modes, etc. I TRULY wish I had learned all of this sooner, because now that I am a professional musician, I have to use all of the theory. Theory that I don't know.

    In short, I would recommend learning theory VERY early on so you don't have to deal with the backlash later. :(

  • gracias hermano thanx brother!!

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  • haha dude you sound like jesse eisenberg

  • this was definitly a huge help. :)

  • This video started a revolution in my brain!!!!

    

  • cool : )

  • Thank you, this is the first time I have seen the fretboard clearly explained. It was interesting, (and I enjoyed), hearing each scale demonstrated in every key. Thanks again.

  • thanx for that ,inspirational for me ..wonder if u might check my songs and let me know if and how this tuition cld help me ..anyone ..thanx.. stevie

  • whys knowing the key signatures beneficial liek big deal i know how many shrps and flats in a certain key but why does it matter can anyone plz elaborate on this

  • @Wiredrawn173 You people talking about this video lacking 'soul' are misunderstanding it -- of course no one wants to play soulless music, and scales are not full of soul, but exercises like this make that musical headspace much easier to take advantage of (that is, to play your musical thoughts), believe me. No one is stopping you from jamming or playing music you like alongside it, but you will really be able to get your ideas on the guitar (heard or invented) much more easily.

  • I'm so glad I'm self taught.... i would have been turned off to guitar if i stared with this ...this just doesn't have any soul or feeling to it

  • very awesome but i got lost. too fast for me. so i;ll go to that other video

    again

    lol

  • When you're referinjg to notes going up the fretboard you say they're sharps, on the way down you say the flat.

  • Besides helping know my fretboard, will this benefit my playing in any way?

  • Question : when practicing scales horizontally ( up and down the neck like the beginning of the video) ...As long as you start on the fifth note of the previous scale and always start your scale pattern on the same string (ie: 5th string) you can play the same pattern and it works anywhere on the fretboard if your first note always starts on the same string (ie: 5th string) ???

  • has anyone else picked up 100 bad habits with guitar? i taught myself and now i play well enough but only use my little finger when in chord shapes and never for scales etc. now i'm restricted and my hand is so used to being at an angle with my little finger curled up that it's like trying to learn a new instrument when i try use it. what am i going to do? suggestions will be appreciated

  • @oaklet Always think about what you are going to play, before you play it. You dont need a guitar to practice. If you think it, you can play it. Practice with chromatic scales a LOT.

  • @oaklet there's no easy way back .. practice with a metronome and start very slow, forcing yourself to keep fingertips perpendicular to the frets, there are many exercise to get to move fingers independently, e.g. start from fret 4, e string and play frets 4,3,1(pinkie,ring,index) or 4,2,1 and so on, down to low E string and up again , then 542 or 532 go on back and forth the fretboard and gradually increase the speed. pay attention at the angle of you wrist so that thumb opposition is effective

  • @oaklet I have the same problem, man....You have little choice if you want to play well....learn it all over again the right way. I bashed my pinky with a rock when I was a kid and put a scar from the nail to the pad. Are you old enough to remember cap guns? We put the caps on the ground and wacked them with a big rock...I wasn't quick enough and got bashed. Now i'm a monster player through practice, practice, etc...good luck bud!

  • this should be titled: "fingerings and positions for circle of fifths" ... it would be much more accurate.

  • cool stuff mateys,well explained,helped alot

  • the circle of 5ths is just a way to learn the scales?

  • @psychopathtoine the circle of 5ths is a logical ordering of scales based on how many sharps or flats each scale has. (see the vid at 0:14) As you go up the circle, for instance from C to G, you gain one sharp (#). G is 5 notes higher than C, or a fifth away. As you continue up the circle from G to D, you gain another sharp. C major has no sharps or flats, G has 1 sharp, and D major has 2 sharps. This is invaluable for learning how to read music or studying chord progressions.

  • You showed your picking hand and technique, all down strokes. An overall excellent video however alternate and circle picking should be covered.That's how we maintain speed without fatigue. Finger numbers are also missing. Beautiful ax btw.

  • excellent work.this is the first vid. i've seen and started learning something new w/in sconds.

  • @ttocsify We're glad you found it useful. Thanks!

  • @iVideosongs yeah i havent practiced theory in 5 yrs and completely forget everything this is a great video to get back to understanding this stuff thank you

  • nice...

  • learn the circle of fifths with me as i learn too. best way to do it!

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  • The purpose of this is not to show you how to use the major scale in a musical way, but to teach you the notes in each respective scale. This is valuable as you get further down the musical path (songwriting/production), but if you have a decent enough ear/sense of rhythm, this isn't the most valuable thing for beginning guitarists that just wanna play. Just learn your major scale (Do-Re-Mi...) and practice on your own moving it EVERYWHERE on the neck, not just starting on the A string root.

  • @zeramski PS. It's much easier to see these relationships if you have access to a piano, and it'll reinforce your understanding of these scales when you go back to the gtr.

  • omg, i knew all of this stuff by accident, when i started playing like 3 years ago, i did nt know anything about guitar but i knew music cuz i play trumpet for 3 1/2 years and everything just sounded right when i matched a note on my trumpet with a note on my guitar and somehow i learned ad taught my self and all of this is easy now wow!

  • @adrianisthemaster it comes innately to a lot of people.. me included :)

  • omg, i knew all of this stuff by accident, when i started playing like 3 years ago, i did nt know anything about guituar but i knew music cuz i play trumpet for 3 1/2 years and everything just sounded right when i matched a note on my trumpet with a note on my guitar and somehow i learned ad taught my self and all of this is easy now wow!

  • Really amazing how he keeps that all straight. If I can learn this stuff, it would help me know what key my pentatonic scale is in.

  • @coolclay1 - You wanna know that? Just locate the root note of the scale, and identify the note. It works for all scales, major, minor, pentatonic, dominant, etc. You just need to know the scale patterns.

    But this is obviously important for more advanced playing.

  • same thing i asked when i first heard about this... WHY?? lol ...

  • ok so i get the concept but i missed the purpose....

  • great...thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • this guy just showed how to do it, this is reducing the need to pay for music instructors

  • Yawn... my head hurts now thanks

  • This video really needs to have the circle of fifths pictured during it, maybe highlighted as he goes around it. This would have sounded impossible to me when I was learning guitar.

  • this is a good example of taking something awesome and turning it to boring crap.. just because MOST people learn this bs doesn't mean you HAVE to to become an accomplished guitarist.

  • @TheSavage493 Most people DONT learn this though.

  • Thanks TheGriif; I feel better. Yeah, if only.,

    Rock on; wish I were retired to do this pro. ;)

    Thanks again for this lesson.

  • Thank you for this!

    Am picking up guitar again in my 50s. Wish I studied this young so I knew really where I was going and also to provide more room to improvise.

    IMO, essential.

    Moving beyond "Gloria"..

  • @asthmaticwheeze I also picked up the guitar this week when I was 52 i'm gonna rock 2nd time around, its been at least 20 something years. Wish I never give up.

  • did anyone notice that his guitar is not moving at all, its attached to something

  • @ZeroElementZero

    Its attached to my butt.

  • Good video, but you should alternate pick all notes.

  • Wonderful tutorial. Thanks for posting. Where can I get the tabs for this? Thanks.

  • @poodythang The whole point of this is so you don't need tabs.

  • great lessons thank you

  • This vid is cool. I recently took a theory class and this would have made no sence before.. but this was really cool. I love it.. thanks dude!!!

  • ONe of the best instructional videos for the circle of fifths. I paid over $2100 for my first sememster of Music theory to learn this and a few other things. This guy is giving to you for free. To the one who said this is BS. I guess your goal is to be a 3 chord fool your whole life. Though arguably some of the best songs ever written only had 3 chords, some of us have a desire to learn more and go beyond that.... Thanks Ivideosongs....

  • @lonzenator which would you say being classes or instructional DVDs as being more beneficial in the long run?

  • @calmclownful depends on your style of learning. I think these videos are great. They would have help a lot, if they had been around in 2000-2004 when I was the piano major at the University. The good thing about personal instruction, however, is instant feedback for questions and if you make a mistake in your learning. Great videos though. For me lessons w/an instructor have always been the most beneficial.

  • thanks dude :o)

  • Reminds me of that scene in Airplane where the guy's talking and the lady's feet are dangling over the seat next to him.

  • the circle of fifths are every note you can play in music. but it teaches you when to play the notes. like which notes you can play when playing in a certain key if im not mistaken. correct me if im wrong or add to it if need be.

  • What is the circle of fifths used for? What I mean is how is it put into use in an actual piece of music?

  • @TheLongestMinute The Circle of Fifths is used to help musicians with Key Signatures. If you know the Circle of Fifths well, you'll come to a point when looking at a staff and you see a Key Signature you'll know exact what Key to play in. Like if there was a Staff that had three flats, I would know that the Key is Eb...It also helps with understanding the relative minors of the major scale.

  • @evanstunes Very helpful actually.

  • oh my goodness this guy knows his theory better than i know the back of my hand

    i feel like i learned so much though

  • I think i would get kinda turned off to guitarplaying if i started with notes. i got interest for guitar by plaaying songs, then I had the will to learn theory.

  • @b4rf3r all theory and stuff helps to communicate with other musicians and well... understand better what you're playing.... but sometimes without theory or learning techniques you can't go really far on your playing unfortunately or even if you do it... the time will be double or more... that's what about all this stuff is usefull..

  • @b4rf3r - Me too, and improvising (which is fun too). Of course, improvising needs quite a bit of scales, but using those moveable scale patterns (without bothering with the B string most of times), one can improvise riffs and simple solos quite easily. This theory is good to jump directly to the most harmonious transposition, but, c'mon, rockers break the rules, we play whatever sounds right and with an attitude. Don't we?

  • Great video! Very helpful. Thanks. Where can I get the tab mentioned in the lesson?

  • awesome...this has really helped me; the enharmonic thing is a sticker though. Thanks for the superb video.

  • The best tutorial on the circle of fifths I've ever seen....however, being an instructor myself, I notice a lot of details and as you showed your picking hand you were not 'alternate picking'. Tsk, tsk...you know how important it is to alternate that stroke until it finally becomes an elliptical, fluid turn. Couldn't resist the chance breaking your stones, heh

  • @guitgeo I would like to add that trying to remember the names of the notes and thinking of them as naturals, sharps and flats is only important when reading music. Other than that it's just confusing as it only relates to the key of C. When I'm playing and improvising I couldn't even tell you what note I was playing without stopping to think about it. Instead I relate the positions on the neck as sounds in my head so when I think of a sound I know that certain spots will give me that note.

  • @tbcass I agree with your statement 100%. I never think about what note I'm playing because, like you, I already know what it will sound like. I figured you have a sense of humor - - I was breaking your balls about your right hand picking technique.

  • @guitgeo Don't you mean you were breaking iVideosongs picking technique? :-)

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  • i agree with 666, if i hadnt started out cheating with tabs, i would probably be 10 times the musician i am, and would have used all my will to learn theory. now it gets pretty boring learning real guitar and it makes me not wanna do it........ down with guitar tab's

  • @tripps5415 This is one of the most intelligent posts I've seen in a long time. Back when I started I didn't know what a Tab was.

  • @tripps5415 if its boring now how boring do you think it would have been when you first started? lol. i think we all have different ways we have to start and i don't think any way is actually wrong. i mean you can't really say music isn't music if you don't know the theory

  • @tripps5415 Learning via tabs is fine if you identify the chords and scales used in the pieces.

  • @6Vital6Remains6 yeah but how many new musicians do you know that start out by running scales or take in the all the theory. its one thing to say it but another to do it

  • @tripps5415  i don't know, man. tabs rock. i took lessons a few years ago. the instructor wanted to teach me straight theory. i needed to learn songs. we agreed to meet each other half way. he 'tabbed' a solo for me each lesson, but he also explained to me the 'why' behind what i was playing. learning to play the songs kept me interested, but his additional information allowed me to recognize recurring themes in other solos and i just took off from there. it's all good.

  • @tripps5415 thts how i qwwas too but thts y im learning piano now because the scales theory and chords are much more layed out and easiar to find and then you can apply them to your playing. :)

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  • Thanks for uploading!!!

  • nice

  • Where's C? I think these videos should have smaller fingers : ) They cover everything up - then he says - sees my prior videos if you don't know the notes -- Where are the other vids? how do you get to them? I think this guy is good - I'd like to learn more - but how?

  • Can you do this with the Minor scales as well in a similar way?

  • yes but you start with A, because A minor has the same amount of sharps and flats as C major... so in effect you can spin the circle so that A is now at the top.... then the same rules apply

  • Hey folks thanx for the comeback. That seems to be the general consensus on that beautiful ax. I am surprised at how many responses I got on that question - all citing Taylor as the manufacturer. One wise ass even suggested I couldn't afford it anyway so don't ask {^;^}, it's cool, I have a good sense of humor and knew where he was coming from. He's right.

    George

  • Really great tutorials. What kind of guitar is that..PRS?

  • @guitgeo I'm pretty sure it's a custom taylor...

  • @guitgeo It's a high end Taylor!!!

  • quite helpful at this stage :)

  • Archetypal street smarts think knowledge is of no use, and only by hacking away at one instrument is the only way to go. If you really want to know your way around the fretboard or in any instrument, so you can create good harmonic content (or best solos) you have to know scales, otherwise you'll find yourself in the traditional "try by miss and err" and end up spending more of your valuable time trying to come up with something. Ask Vai, Satriani, Petrucci, Malmsteen.. they'd give you this.

  • agree 100% i mean how can you call yourself a musician if you don't understand what you are doing... i think a lot of people have heard the concept that music theory limits your creativity, which is simply not true... so many more doors open for you once you start understanding music.

    Ok its hard work, but the pay-off is well worth it. Sad truth is kids just learning tabs all their life will never become great musicians, just more like a cheap imitation.

  • 6EELZE6U6666 music theory does really open up your way of finding things on the neck alot quicker for me. But you can be a good well rounded player(musician)and not know any theory. Tabs help alot though because they are in plain numbers to strings(just like reading a bar graph in elementary school)

    and you can learn almost anything from tabs, chords and scales in any key and then apply them to your own style. Knowledge of the neck is not a bad thing but most of your style is in the right hand

  • @ibanezrocker12 i think the problem is with Tab, is its just a quick and easy way to learn something, if you learn standard notation it actually connects your ear to what you are playing... you learn to see intervals and hear them without playing, which you can not do with tab...

    if i have a song in my head or if i want to work a song out i can usually write down 90% of the song without a guitar in my hands, you cant really obtain this skill if you just stick to tab, i hardly ever use tab at all

  • 6666 Dude if you play an E minor on the guitar and know its an E minor its already connecting it to your ear as with any key. and if I have a song in my head I can usually work out the whole thing in a few hours with some intense study so yeah you can. I learned from tabs but don't use them if I want to learn a song anymore because I can do it from ear. Its really not that hard dude. Peace

  • When i took lessons 4 years ago my instructor tried to teach me this... I didn't pay any real attention to it... and now here I am 4 years later looking it up on youtube trying to figure it out. It makes more sense here than it did then though. This is very useful information for anyone who will be writing music someday, at least music that makes some actual musical sense.

  • I'm not in music class and have to learn this. It's just out of interest. I have a question though, what is the purpose of this? What role does it play when it comes to guitar playing that makes it such a good thing to know?

  • @BoxOfMoons i think it adds knowledge.. on how to create beautiful music..

  • I think what is truly awesome about this, is that once you know it (mainly by just practising it over and over) you'll be able to know other cool things like "what chords go with what?" which is really hard to figure out unless this make sense first.

  • Knowing the Circle of 5ths helps you recognize the key that a given sequence of chords lies within; moving by 4ths and 5ths is very common in western music and knowing 'where' a sequence is going will help you craft 'better' solos; it helps you learn the more exotic scales; it helps you to determine relative major/minor scales... There are VERY many uses for the Circle of 5ths (4ths).

  • What is this,a mathematics class????

  • @syndgr834 Hahahaha very funny:)

  • Hi folks, I don't think this is really gonna be useful for your jams, just the first step. You'll have to learn different possitions so you don't have to go up and down along the fretboard while improvising.

    94+2 = 3

  • Great video!!!! Really easy to follow.

  • Great sounding guitar, What is the brand? Taylor? Is that ebony fretboard or black dyed rosewood?

  • My guess is that a Taylor 914CE would be about right. Could be another high end Taylor. Hope that get's you started!

  • This video is misleading in a few ways.

    At 10 minutes in, you say that "there aren't 12 major scales, there are 15". Completely wrong -- there is one major scale (A 7 note scale, NOT 8!) that could be played in any of the 12 keys. It's really that simple. You wouldn't say a crap and a turd are something different because they have a different enharmonic spelling.

  • no their are 15 different keys in the major scale its the only scale that cannot contain sharps and flats in the same key signature

  • instead of thumbing me down, how about someone tries arguing a point that makes sense

  • It's a 7 note scale and then the octave which is the eight note that repeats the root at a higher register. He didn't say it was 8 completely different notes but that there are 8 notes "played" in a scale regardless that one is a repeat, it's a musical exercise, it's supposed to be cyclical not 8 different names for notes.

    As he said, "academically" not "musically" there are 15 enharmonic names of scales and he's right.

  • If you want to say that, there would be 17 major scales, because 5 have enharmonic spellings, not 3. Are you sure you checked this info?

  • 17 -5 = 12 :)

  • 800+83=12

  • 15 -3 = 12 :)

  • 92-90=12

  • wtf?? on what grounds? :D

  • none

  • i dont get it

  • One more point. Like I said originally, there is one major scale that can be played in 12 keys, but when you word it like that, it doesn't sound so important. My point there was this guy is complicating things which are straight forward and would throw off a novice.

  • We know what you said but it is not the point the video was created for. The video is not entirely for novices, it assumes you know scales, which one can then make the assumption that you already know there are 12 keys in each register but that it doesn't cover the whole range. . As I said it's academic.

    As the blurb box says "Learning this foundation of music theory will get you started on mastering the fretboard and understanding other musical concepts." I'd say that covers it.

  • Okay, but how are there "15" major scales? 5 have enharmonic spellings, so there should then be 17 by that flawed logic.

  • What about the scale with Bbb in it, that's B double flat, which goes to show there are many theoretical views and not to get bogged down in trying to nail down a rigid concept, best to listen, do, play, enjoy, learn over years, from mistakes, from effort but not with a grand concept building, rather a simpler and simpler approach, which is entirely your own style.

  • guy's he isn't teaching major scales he's teaching us the circle of fiths hense the name.

    haha

  • My god, please don't reply to something if you don't have a reasonable response to what was said.

  • This was extremely helpful thank you so much.............

  • great demonstration on the circle of fifths. I could be wrong, but I think all your accidentals are sharps when going clockwise in fifths. flats are used to signify going counterclockwise in fourths, as in more jazzlike progressions.

  • nice lesson

    i'm curious what motivated you to take the time to explain this?

    are you simply helpful to the people out there with no incentive?

  • are you kidding try playing in a honors jazz band go and take a solo and have no clue what's in the key on the spot the relatives and all that good stuff. bro this is most necessary.

    haha

  • yea but im not in a honors jazz band, like i understand how this thing works i just dont get the point of it. how is it beneficial? counting how many sharps or flats the other person plays so u know what key its in?

  • really when you get to meat and and bone of theory it's all math. Having this knowledge at your disposal expecially the coordinates on the fretboard makes a world a difference. to just know these on the fly means with little thought you know exactaly what a harmonic minor is / melodic minor and where it is on the board, that means fluidity(however you spell that) idk man the best info i've gotten when it comes with theory though is to take you a little at a time.

    haha crap can get annoying!

  • i think id have to learn this in a class. i doubt u can or anyone else can teach me on youtube comments. i just look for modes, like if it looks like a lydian shape or w/e, then i just compare other scales to the mode scales, like the harmonic minor is just a minor with a major 7th instead of a flat 7.

  • that is the best place to learn all yout theory is in a class no doubt. but ugh the circle of fifths has nothing to do with modes all it is are the major scales from most sharps to least flats... but hey just like modes there to help and if you don't know them off the top of your head it isn't gunna kill you...

  • IT's nice to know some notes by name (ie: dominant) but playing by ear is really more preferable.

    I mean, who has 10 hours a day to practice? Also, if your fingers go there and it sounds right, go for it.

    Why keep on going each string while your energy dissapates...

    Don't get old thinking about it when you could be doing it = my regret that I spent too long 'theorizing.'

  • This is nice to know so my jazz comping will be more fluid. I have an option to follow the theorized movements or stray away.

  • what guitar is that

  • Best explanation and demonstration of the circle of fitths. It's much clearer to me now. Thank you.

  • ive been playing guitar for 2 months now teaching myself and watching youtube videos and i have to say ive made progress i know pinch harmonics harmonics picking a not yet shredding and few solos. but plz give me some tips i have adhd and add and a very bad memory plz tell me a easy way to remeber certain things cause i try but cant ty

  • well what do u have trouble remembering cuz i have a really bad memory and a short attention span so i definitely know what u mean i could prolly help u out

  • Top lesson

  • That was a very well thought out and informative video. Great exercise for dominating the keys and the notes on the fretboard.  Thanks !!

  • great lesson !! easy to understand

  • Some will "want" to get it some will not,

    Great Lesson

  • What a great comment: 'Why doesn't he use alternate picking?' I guess he could pick his nose, pick his arse, pick a note and then pick something to eat!

  • I suggest you play some chords, sing along and have a good time and enjoy yourself! All this theory will drive you nuts.

    Good Luck from the looney tooney bin!!!

  • Yeah, if you wanna stay mediocre..