Empire - Arab unity in the shadows - Part 2

[kashif9595]

get rid of islam, u instantly transport urself from 7th century to the 21st n then something can b done right in arabia

[TimeGod12]

THIS IS THE BEST POLITICAL TALK SHOW EVER.

[ModerSverige]

The Arab has failed the Arabs.

The West have betrayed You.

The generations of today are weak.

What odds do you have?

- We have to bet a singel strike-

[lkdgh11]

@ModerSverige don';t be so emo 

[sonidax]

I am amazed that they didn't talk about Somalia, a member of Arab League. 

[lkdgh11]

@sonidax cuz somalian are african ! :) not arab

and not genetically mixed with us ;) they barely speak arabic ,oga oga jungle junge

[pillsburydoughboy47]

3:04 ah, at the time Soviet weapons were in fact more advanced but, okay. I suppose though a lot of Russians are racist pricks; where America gave its german brethren in Israel the latest in its high tech weapons crap, the Soviets gave Arabs all their scrap metal, worthless stuff.

[LU2013Aziz]

looool 15:41

[jrod2850]

the Arab world has the resources and the numbers to exist and support their own but one thing keeps getting in their way and that is the difference and the bickering among each other of who should lead!!!!!

[JohnyJKLV]

That's exactly what I think about them. Each and everyone of their leaders are too selfish and don't think about the people. I think it's especially true in Gulf Arab states. Most of them are small and not self-sufficient. For example, Kuwait is really dependent of foreign workers.

[lkdgh11]

@JohnyJKLV i kinda agree :(

[jabarbadi]

We need a new Muhammad!

[AbtinX]

What arabs need to do is to LISTEN to Muhammad salli allah aleihe wa salam. Stop following leaders and puppets, and realise the strength of arabs, of people and create stronger societies. That's why Latin America is strong and free today, movements of democracy.

[lkdgh11]

@jabarbadi what do you mean, we need a new muhammad?

you must be a troll lmao, you are epic

[brahim119]

The inert and inapt Arab League is an insult to all Muslims, and must abolished. The honorable Robert Fisk and brother Munir Shafiq made their point.

[etsom701]

If you give money to Arabs they will use it un-wisely, doing what they are only willing to do . terrorize nations. Putting money or supplying Arab countries is like giving a machine gun to a monkey. In Western culture , we give the money and the supplies to our clients and allies. In this case is Israel. The Arabs will Unite sooner or later , but they will . When that happens it will be late again just like 1967.

[mounirsy]

TheBIGGEST problem in the arab world is that the money must be in the right hand and we must have a real industrieel economy this problem is bigger than lost granada or jerusalme or baghdad

[zafthedon]

salaam

great discussion

peace

[jimed]

How did the British go from fighting jewish terrorists in what is now israel to fighting along side them in the Suez canal business?

[Sultan1923]

Great ending, and really enlightening debate, despite its length. 5/5 Aljazeera

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid: Let me tell you something, 20 yrs ago US economists knew the freemarkets will slow down and a economic shift will take place, i.e. money, innovation, labour will go to the East and USA economy felt this in the 1990's then without the cold war America had been isolated as no one had a need for it and to be fair no one other than UK liked it.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

madrid part 2: In the mid 1990's a group calling their ideology asa neo conservative began writing policy in a prominent think tank a ZIONIST think tank called the New American Century. Memebers were like rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Cheney. an INteresting comment was made by Wolfowitz...

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid part 3: He said the world has no place for the worlds only Superpower and USA needed a way to reassert itself on the global scene and needs a "new Pearl harbour" to unite the American People on a common "global enemy". USA has profitted directly from world conflict and needed such an enemy. 2/3 years later the neo cons won and they got a Pearl Harbour - 9/11 and acommon global enemy they called it Islamic Terrorism.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid part 4: Today USA is in the centre of the "economic world in the most strategic region". Called EURASIA this is the gulf states, Asia and European triangle. it starves oil trade to China and creates proxy wars and conflict to pursue it's strategic goals and today a new front has opened up as Obama and USA concentrate on Pakistan: The Strategic INterest this time is the Indian Ocean currently dominated by Cina through Pakistan.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid part 5: Pakistan is the most influential nation in Indian Ocean and has introduced China its great friend to all the Indian OCean states minus India who has Imperial goals. Today a new proxy war is being fought orchestrated by USA/ZIONISM but this time it is India Vs Pakistan just like Nixon made iraq and Iran fight.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Islam is to be admired as it has a solution for economic, political and social problems but at this moment it is hijacked by the ZIONIST who fund crackpots so this region is divided and outsiders capitalise on it's resources. But things are going to change a very scary time is ahead for the world as USA focusses on the Indian Ocean and gets ever closer to China by trying to destabilise Pakistan through India.

[madrid23]

I think that Muslims often overestimate the power of the Jewish lobby. (more like Likud Lobby). In fact there is also a Arab gulf States' lobby here in the U.S. and many times the U.S. government has ignored the Likud Lobby to take actions that instead pleased the Gulf countries' lobby, especially on the matter of weapons sales to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid part 6: I apologise for taking over this message board, I just want you to realise the Media is a tool of what the elite want you to see. Everything that happens int he world is to be viewed as the "strong's" fight to maintain it's Economic Hegemony and will goto any end to maintain this in Christianity this is the Anti Christ i.e. the evil money lenders in the great temple polluting the good with their evil ways to grow rich by others misery.

[madrid23]

the bottom line is that religious Muslim communities in Arab and Muslim countries must non violently mobilize against the despots and dictators that have hanged up 2 power for far 2long. They must bring these regimes down, not 2 put in place Theocracies, but secular democracies with an Islamic character in their identity. But this can only be achieved if the Muslim and Arab people rise up to the task. It will be painful, it will cost thousands of lives for they will kill you.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid who is THEY? the ultimate THEY are the ZIONIST.

The dictators are agents of the ZONISTs. Islam can NOT be secular and the history of ISlam has shown it has never been secular until the last 100 yrs when the muslim lands were dismantled by the Imperialist from Europe. But a non secular muslim world is NOT SO ABD look how Islam promited a balance, status quo and innovation in the past unlike Western Christianity where religion really supressed the society.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

meant to say a non secular muslim world is NOT SO BAD meaning look at the Islamic Past it was neevr secular but promoting religious tolerance, innovation and provided stability as opposed to a theocratic Western Christendom that supressed society and non christians. There is a huge difference becuase Islamic blueprint lies with our prophet who created a economic, poitical and social system for us to abide by that is acceptable before God.

[amribnalASS]

prophet mu7amd and imam Ali and many other cmpanions who were arabs criticized arabs because of their unislamic hypocrisy.Ali ibn abu talib(AS)even cursed them bcoz of the oppression ummayyads were doing 2 persians.and many quranic evidences show that the arabs are worst muslims.

, like quran 9:101)".so shut ur panarabizm up r ass and stop mixing it with islam.....the only islamic countries r Iran and azerbaycan the rest pagan law. ass.i luv arabs but ur not the kings of islam.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Argue hypocracy but dont be intolerant to arab people.

Arab people are good people but let down with their puppet regimes. I agree Iran did so well by outcastng the west but Arabs could not becuase ibn Saud has given America the key to the kngdom. Arab oil money is stored in America not in Saudi they are stuck!

[amribnalASS]

my comments aarent appearing plz com 2 my channel bro.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Look who sits int he arab league, the traitor children of ibn Saud, a poodle from Egypt and a two foot prat who alls himself Hashmi. Change Arab League to a Muslim League include all muslim nations and forge new partnerships with China and Russia get greater representation against the USA plans for dominanc ein the region for another 100 years.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

The Arab league is a league of words but no real influence or power. It was left to replace the Islamic Statenwhich was dismatled by the European Imperialists. Arab League needs to actually doing then talking and include other muslim nations and change into the muslim league.

[amribnalASS]

3arabs suck.they have forgotten islam so they deserve what they get......

13:11 . Verily, God does not change peoples condition unless they change their inner selves;-holy quran

panarabizm is a cancer.and its very unislamic because nationalism is forbidden in islam.

[Malnutriti]

Islam is repressive. It is against democracy. That's why they left it. Living under islam is like serving life in prison. Arabs should convert to christianity.

[amribnalASS]

3arabs suck.they have forgotten islam so they deserve what they get......

13:11 . Verily, God does not change peoples condition unless they change their inner selves;-holy quran

panarabizm is a cancer.and its very unislamic because nationalism is forbidden in islam.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Be quiet he prophet of God our beloved guide, our light rasoolallah said do not think bad of arabs for 3 reasons;

1) Because I am arab

2) The Qu'ran was revealed in Arabic

3) Arabic is spoken in Jannah

so watch your tongue, yes we are ashamed of "some arab muslims but they do NOT deserve what they are being inflicted too by the traitors and the enemy of Islam: ZIONISM.

[connect4raza]

ALL THE EUROPEAN ND WESTERN LEADERS R PUPPETS OF ZIONISTS. ZIONISTS JEWS RULED THEIR ASSES ND THEY R RULING NOW ITS HIGH TIME FOR THE EUROPEAN ND WESTERN PEOPLE 2 REMOVE THE ZIONIST JEWS FROM THEIR LAND OR THEY WILL TURN UR COUNTRY INTO A BLACK HOLE FOR THE PROTECTION of TERRORIST,APARTHIED,BARBARIC,A­COPOLYPTIC THUG STATE of ISRAEL.

[FcukIsrael]

Wake up arabs and muslims alike. We have our enemy occupying the aqsa, sluatering our brothers and sisters, and denying us of our freedoms. We need unity. Once we are united israel will shatter at our pressence.

[Malnutriti]

If a dictator rules an arab state, like Saddam Hussein did with Iraq, will the arab states protect that dictator or will they topple him? If arab unity can not topple spread arab democracy - then it is fundamentally useless.

[inder19852000]

Its a pity that Muslims fight among themselves in the name of Sunni and Shia......

[falcon010216]

All arab people try to say , other people try to devide them. It is a joke. If you cannot unite by your own accord then you should not say other people trying to devide them. Arab are devided within themselves. Saudis do not like egyptians, Syrians does not Jordanians and many more.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

You have a very narrowminded and simple chain of tough fo a falcon.

Ask yourself who sowed the seed of discontent and nationalism across the muslim world and continues to divide through the Authoritarian Puppet Regimes. DOnt be fooled the muslim ordinary people be it Africa, Middle East or ASia or Europe are ONE and UNITED, but divided through their CORRUPT PUPPET LEADERS.

[Malnutriti]

Islam is like serving a life in prison sentence.

[amribnalASS]

chek my channel my comments wont show up.

[jerkinp]

The problem here is that the West does not want the Arab world to unite. They Arab world hold most of the worlds oil which the West needs as their entire infrastructure is built to run on it. The second problem is that the leaders of the Arab world who are tyrants are apposed to any unified state as they would lose power and the luxury and privileges they have. The thirds is that there is currently no actual legitimate leadership to charismatically promote a unified federated Arab state.

[jerkinp]

The Fourth is that Islamic movements are in conflict with Arab movements. Some Islamist movements not only want to sideline Arabs who are not Muslim from politics but kill them.

[jerkinp]

The last problem is poverty and lack of education. In Egypt for example by just bribing the poor with a bit of money the leadership has been able to counter any attempts by the middle class from overthrowing the dictatorial leadership.

[madrid23]

Arabs hv always been divided. The only time that Arabs were united was under the sword of Mohamed. Its was do my will, or else. I don't understand why Arabs, cry and whine so much. When the U.S. invaded Iraq, its troops launched their attacks from Arab countries, with tanks, planes and aircraft carriers were fulled by Arab oil. Even when Bush went to the Gulf, u should hv seen all these tribal leaders parading in front of him like their colonial master had just arrived 2 check up on them.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

There was no sword that spread Islam a popular myth, Explain since you feel you know history better than I.

Which sword converted Christian Yemen to a steadfast obedient muslim nation to this day, how did ISlam reach Indonesia, Malaysia when no Arab army or swordsman reahed there, How did Islam easily spread right across Persia and Africa - Why becuase Islam was a new breath of air, offering liberation. And lets not forget Spain.

[madrid23]

Mohamed himself participated in nearly 24 military campaigns to spread his religion. He conquered Medina by the sword and put all those who previously shamed him 2 death. Arab invaders invaded Magrib & Vandal control N. Africa and Byzanthinian Palestine, + imposed taxes on all non Muslims, Arabs invaded Zorastarian Persia and Christian Iberia all the way up2 half of France, Muslim Turks invaded Constantinople, Cyprus, Southern Italy, Muslims invaded India, parts of Central Asia & the Balkans

[ALANSARALHAQ]

note: Madinah was NOT conquered by the sword.

Arabs forced back the ROMANS back to cyprus thus liberating, Syria, what is Jordan today, Egypt and North Africa and Cyprus. Arabs went into Spain just 7,000 men led by the courageous great man Tarik bin Zaid after whom Gibraltar is named Jaabr AL tarik. Why did they go to Spain becuase they kicked the visigoth out who were looting, burning and pillaging/vandalising Spain.  Hence the name Andalusia from the word Andalus means vandals.

[madrid23]

incredible how you Muslims have the ability to justify your own actions in all matters. A Muslim leader invades the Christian region of Spain and he is a great man, ah. I guess that the Spaniards were great too by kicking out the Berbers whose piracy across the Mediteranean brought death, pillaging, murder, rape and raiding. 2 million people were enslaved by the Barbary pirates. But when Bush invaded Iraq with the support and compliance from Arab leaders he was Lucifer incorporated

[ALANSARALHAQ]

I think you need a subjective look at Islamic Spain and it coontribution to the modern world.

Remember Spain was a pocket of "little states" prior to it's Islamic Past which lasted 800 yrs incidentally. These were being looted, burnt down and pillaged by Visigoths whow ere "kicked" out by the muslims. Muslim technology, innovation reshaped that entire country they ineffect built that nation to become great UNLIKE what the USA is doing in Iraq/Afghanistan.

[madrid23]

just because they did great things doesn't mean that they didn't spread their religion through the sword. And it doesn't give you the right to invade other people. Its the same excuse that European Imperialists used. "We are civilizing this people" White men' s burdern. Oh, please, didn't we decimate Japan, Korea, Germany, didn't we rebuilt these countries into world powers. In 40 years Iraq and Afghanistan will too be modern and advanced. Regardless, its still wasn't right to invade Iraq.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

No Iraq is a loosing battle as is Afghanistan.

Iraq was an illegal invasion and Afghanistan is NOW an occupation.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Afghanistan is a base to control the Caspian Sea, Iraq to control the 2nd largest oil reserve and maintain influence in the Persian Gulf. Saddam's mistake was to openly announce he was to "switch" oil trade from Dollar to Euro and ahd 2 yrs remaining for sanctions to be lifted. Taliban denied USA - UNICOL to build pipeline to link CAspian Sea to Pakistan. Incidentally UNICOL was headed by one Hamid Karzai who now is the puppet leader in Afghanistan.

[madrid23]

and its sad, because Islam could have been used as a platform to project democracy and self determination in the Arab world. But instead it has been used to project intolerant policies of the extreme, and the focus on America and Israel as the source of all problems in the Middle East, which they are not. It is the Leaders of the Arab world that are the problem. If they were to mobilize, unite and put real pressure on America, we would be forced to solve the Palestinean problem 4 example.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Islam made the first constituion in the world kn Madinah, Islamic Leaders have to be elected democratically so they serve the interest of the people and must answer tot he people but nepotism that followed several hundred years made Islam weak and allowed the Imperialist to instill nationalistic ideas in the different musllim communitites and thus the muslim world has forever been divided.

[madrid23]

I know, in this i admire Islam more than Christianity, in its ability to unite people from different ethnic groups, classes and cultures. It is a true amazing institution. And I do believe that it can do tremendous good for the world. I guess, that is why Prophet Mohamed was named the greatest men in History ahead of Isaac Newton and Jesus.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Madrid your uite right, if you do not accept prophet Muhamamd as a messenger of God I can not see how you can not see how this one individual who was illiterate set up the most advanced civilisation and continues to influence the modern world for 1400 years. This is a sign of greatness. I am glad you appreciate this.

[madrid23]

Arabs forced the Romans out of Cyprus who were living there for hundreds of years and whose culture defined that Island's identity and u call that Liberating. I guess u could claim that the Israelis also liberated Jerusalem in 1967 from the Arabs who were also living there for hundreds of years.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Arabs oushed back the Romans back to Cyprus do you miss what I wrote.

Kcked them out of Syria,what is Jordan, Egypt and back to Cyprus where the Roman Empire was basically "no more".

Muslim entered Jerusalem when it was an "abandoned" city and rebuilt it and invited Christians and Jews the Zionist wish to exclude everyone and OCCUPY Israel. And they did so "illegally" in 67 and 47 and continue to do so illegally.

[madrid23]

In many of places they did force their religion, through direct ways (by force) or indirect ways. By making the lives of non Muslims so umberable that they either had to leave or convert. Now, I am not saying that everywhere Islam exists today was spread by the sword. Like u said, places like Indonesia, Malaysia, Parts of Africa & the Philipines trade and cultural exchanges with the Muslim world led to many conversions, but nevertheless, Islam in many parts of the world did spread by the sword

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Islam NEVER spread by the sword hence the miracle of this religion that came as a force of liberation. Yemen turned muslim without a stone thrown, Romans and Persian alrmed at the extent of willful conversion to Islam sa a growing Arab empire afecting their precious trade and therefore instigated ATTACKS on the muslims but muslims defeated them and pushed the Romans back into N.africa and onto Cyprus and PErsians kicked out back to Persia.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

from liberating the lands from the Romans, syria, jordan, palestine became muslim protectorates as did Egypt, north Africa. Persians defeated and in retreat son accepted a second religion in their region Islam aswell as Zorastrian. Jerusalem when he Arabs entered into it was abandoned, and rubble destroyed by the Romans and muslims rebuilt this glorious city.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Also do not forget the Arabic language, it's reminents are found in every European Language today, 100's of words in European languages came from Arabic. Arab Civilisation revitalised the world and innovated and grew fast and strong.

[madrid23]

it is exactly why of the legacy of Islam spreading itself by the sword that fundamentalits and Islamists feel that the only way to practice the truest form of Islam is to go back to the ways of the sword in Jihad and spread the religion as it was spread by its first followers. That is why they want to build a Caliphate that will cover the all world. Nearly every video caught made by these people says the same message. Convert yourselves to Islam. Are u going to deny this as well

[ALANSARALHAQ]

I agree muslims need to REPRESENT for Themselves in their OWN lands.

Nothing wrong with that, our resources, are being robbed, our regimes are dictatorships instilled by outsiders to maintain their hegemony. Nothing wrong wit Muslims wishing to take control of their nations and ridding themselves of occupation exactly what the French Resistance did in WW2. Problem is USA and ZIONIST cohorts do ot wish to let go of these lands as they are"strategic to their economic survival.

[madrid23]

Of course. But let me tell you something, it is not completely America's fault that Arab countries are not democratic and don't represent their own people. In fact, nearly all the countries that the U.S. has bad relations with in the Muslim world are dictatorships. It is the monarchies that follow America's will. These regimes protect each other and only the Arab people are going to be able to rid themselves of them and get some self determination.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Dictatorships put in place by CIA, Saddam put into power by CIA. Ayotolah Khomeini brought back from exile in Iran to overthrow the Shah of Iran who wanted Iranian Oil for Iran and not America. The same is for all other leaders. They do this to maintain their HEGEMONY in the region and make sure the oil is traded in the dollar and they continue to do so. They do the same in S.America, Vietnam everywhere where they have strategic interests enslaving the peple to dictators.

[madrid23]

Trust me when we put our people in power they do exactly as we say, they don't turn on us like these two characters did. The problem is that the religious community in the Middle East is quick to point their finger at America and Israel when they do something wrong. But they are afraid of raising their voices when the dictatorships in their countries, exploit the people, steal its resources, fake elections, and violate human rights and freedoms. This needs to change

[madrid23]

have u even listened to what the Islamists say in their videos! That their aim is to create a fundamentalist caliphate across the whole world. They say that we westerners hv to convert. Did you hear what the people that attacked Madrid said. They said that they wanted to destroy Spain and reclaim it for Muslims. There is not terrorist threat? I wonder what you would say if you were to look at downtown NY 8 years ago, there would be your evidence of "no terrorist threat"

[akumie]

exactly, or when America invaded Afghanistan because it was a threat...all u see is now is taliban (farmers with guns) attacking the Americans soldiers, just funny that they are considered a threat to American when they dont even have long range missiles

[ALANSARALHAQ]

America controls ALL the strategic oil trade routes and now stirs up trouble kn the Sudan i.e. using the ethiopians to stir trouble in the Darfur region the worlds 3rd largest oil reserves. On another front it uses India to destabilise Pakistan and is funding behtullah Maqsood who Western Media call Al Qaeda in pakistan and also a Taliban but really an agent for INdia and USA. WHy becuase USA wishes domination of the final major rtade route Indian Ocean

[ALANSARALHAQ]

Pakistan is the most influential nation in the Indian Ocean more so than India and is introducing other nations to its number one friend China. Therefore USA wishes to starve the oil/energy going to China and therefore the proxy war fought in Afgha nistan moves to Pakistan. But this can be a miscalculation for Pakistan is not like the Arab Nations and has an organised intelligence service just needs a DECISIVE LEADER sigh but can drive USA out of AFGHAN and Spoil INdia's Aspirations.

[falcon010216]

Ya you are influential. You cannot control your own people. At first try to unite your own country then speak.

[QUASARS920]

One way justice, why is a bunch of guy in western suit trying to solve arab problem I am sorry who do they really represent.

how about a real consensus that include all to begin with.

[ogapadoga]

Why are there muslim nations and not ONE muslim nation in this world? this is extremely puzzling...

[zizoubilly]

coz the stupid arab nationalists wanted power and went against the Ottomans :(