I almost get thrown out at C4L event for filming a uninvited crasher!

[SpringChatty]

They are being ignorant trying to frighten you, thats all. Some people might need their butts kicked but it is against the law to beat people up unless you are the law. Sick F*cks.

[militantmindset]

nut bars!!!! now 50% more nutty

[captkirkconnell]

good security- get the enemy plant out- and the reson you were asked to not video it is because as far as security knows you may be part of the PR Scheme

[AnotherCompartment]

Thanks for showing us this infiltration divide and conquer attempt. Looks like these C4L people are used to dealing with this and knew exactly what this guy was here for. All your extra breathing does make you look guilty to mr. film man. Whether you were part of the set up or not doesn't matter. You obviously have an agenda against the movement along with your stupid little friend in the intro who always seems to be right next to the strife.

[BusyBeeOne]

a lot of what I have is classified, you probably wouldn't understand it....lmao :0

[losplatosdemaria]

I'm glad that this issue has come up because C4L obviously needs to decide whether or not filming is allowed. It would be extremely hypocritical if they banned independant filming, even if it is their right. I'd like to see what they do.

[AStarSpangledGirl]

PS...I thought that the whole point of the LIBERTY movement was to RESPECT other people and their property. WHY didn't you stop filming they told you to? WHY WERE YOU DISRESPECTFUL?

Let's start with THAT question first...because if you claim to be part of the liberty movement...you might wanna work on that "respect" thing a bit more.

[AStarSpangledGirl]

If it was a private event....they have every right to tell you to not film. PERIOD. If you don't agree...let me come down to your house and film you and see how you react....and considering that Dr Paul is one of the biggest enemies considered by the status quo...I would say I don't blame security for being extra cautious.

[AStarSpangledGirl]

If it was a private event....they have every right to tell you to not film. PERIOD. If you don't agree...let me come down to your house and film you and see how you react.

[roundman3000]

Maybe they were hoping you would respect the privacy of all those parties involved? Maybe the security procedures weren't clear? I don't know. Maybe the guy trying to pass out information didn't want to be filmed? Maybe the security guards didn't want to be filmed? Maybe they just don't like you (j/k)? I hardly believe that C4L is into censorship but stranger things have happened.

[devanaire]

LCL my opinion is they may be concerned that you may have footage that could be used to slam C4L! Remember the false allegations made against Rand Paul. They are a controversial group because they stand for the truth. Revolutions never come easy. Therefore they need to walk on eggshells. Make sense

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[sshatchell]

That's the republican party for you. "Move along, nothing to see here, these aren't the droid's you're looking for.." C4L will deny they are republican. But it's just a smoke screen. We know the democratic party is more transparent than they are regardless of what they tell us.

[motallero]

ha that guy mustve quit takin his meds

[bedtime4bonzo]

So you "almost" got thrown out? What's the big deal? You say it's a private event, and they tell you to stop filming, then you disobeyed them and you're surprised that they tried to stop you again? What gives you the right to ignore them? Look they need to look out for people setting them up to be racists, etc. You are sitting here whining about not being able to break their rules while real things are happening. Is your #1 priority to film when people with proper authority tell you not to?

[josephmclellan]

The man with the briefcase mentioned "Zionism". I'm guessing he might be an anti-jew with some sensitive literature. If you've heard of the book "Protocols of the learned elders of Zion" and the anti-jew propaganda that went along with the book you would understand their point of view.

[roadkillz78]

I believe your guess that security thought it would rattle the guy being filmed even further would be correct. I work in corrections and my experience says that if an acting out person has an audience of sorts, it makes the person act out even more (for various reasons). If the security intended on infringing your rights, your video would have been confiscated in some fashion and you would not have been able to produce this video at all. Remember, these are only security guys, not the KGB.

[bedtime4bonzo]

@roadkillz78 - good point

[longlivetherepublic1]

The person who has ultimate jurisdiction to tell you to stop filming is the person who owns that piece of land or any of the landowners subordinates. If the security team was told by the landowner to make sure no one like yourself filmed such an incident then you were wrong. On the other hand I think this is a classic example of security guards extending their power to far, you were obviously no security threat so why would they have any concern with you.

[AUTiger2487]

you should of stopped filming when asked...it is a private event...sorry. they probably assumed you were with the guy. the guy was acting erratically. You are over reacting. Don't trash C4L. its no big deal.

[WDeet]

I think they thought this trouble maker was going to try to implicate, slander, or associate RP with some denigrated group and you were there maybe as his accomplice to film it and promote nefarious ties between Ron Paul and whatever this guy was rambling about. RP catches enough hell about the beliefs of a small # of his "supporters", and so he does not want to be associated w/ fringed out people or their beliefs. You could edit and make your film look representative of Paul supporters.

[beckweth]

The response to being filmed is disturbing. It's censorship. Private property? Private event? Looks like a public event with lots of filming going on.

[WeeblesRebellion]

Maybe the guy was mentally unstable and the bouncer guys didn't think it was appropriate to film him? He seemed very nervous and said "Do you know what zionism is?"

Why didn't you follow the guy outside and interview him?

Too many questions here to be crying unfair censorship.

[SirNoods]

You are over-reacting.

Asking you to stop taping at a private event does not inhibit your personal liberties. They could have very well thrown you out and had been done with it.

They probably wanted you to stop so a spectacle would not be made about "crazy Ron Paul people".

[CarolyneMas]

It is a bit absurd being asked not to tape at a Liberty event. Unbelievable. I would wonder to whom the bouncers answer. Are they given instructions beforehand, or was this just impromptu thuggery? Geez...some people get a badge and really let it go to their head.

[morningyoga]

This is happening all over America and Brittian. Just another freedom being taken away. Have we all really forgotten what it means to be free - what it WAS like to be free? You had every right to film there - and if not, like you said, why?

[shizont]

My thoughts: Security people think like security people, thats how and why they have the job. Of course they are about control first, liberty 9th or 10th. Their natural impulse is to control or stop anything that wasn't planned. That is the security mindset, and like a hive of bees they were already agitated by the one guy so they went after you as well.

[Publik]

ps) You seen it with your eyes and they are a camera did the guard ask you to close your eyes? What about your ears? When this stuff happens you need to get out and don't come back better to film where people enjoy freedom. Leave the losers to work it out. The venue is most likely being manipulate by tossers and not what you thought it was at all. You need to go where people are friendly and who encourage social justice.

[Publik]

Only a loser would ask you to stop filming. You are in minimum security in the NWO. You seem to be just learning about PNAC. You have no rights, only those granted to you by the powers that be there. Liberty means no freedom liberty means if the powers that be there grant you liberty. The statue of Liberty is a symbol about whether the powers in control will grant you any. The guard did not grant you liberty. Always remember it is their rule of law in their institution. Every Best Wish

[jeepndesert]

ron paul is part of the controlled left/right paradigm. research the henry george conspiracy.

[HairyCheeseNuts]

IMO they asked you to stop. If I was a paid security person I would not have been so nice.

[ddrhazy]

If they were trying to prevent you from making a mountain out of a molehill they certainly gave you more ammunition by telling you to stop filming.

[TheMurraybrockman]

I have a hard time taking a "libertarian" group that attempts to restrict filming seriously, private property or no.

[nolanhargrove]

I think that security feared a left wing nut attack that takes every little issue and turns it into something close to madness. Was this the reason why they didnt want you to film it? Maybe not, but they maybe just playing it safe in case the guy was some left wing nut plant trying to provoke a response. There could be many reasons why, but I doubt restriction of speech is one of them.

[Galatians416]

Unfortunately there is no need for people who espouse racist and anti-semitic views like Tarrin Lupo and his friend to make videos of the conference.

Tarrin's personal anti-semitic views are his own. It seems pretty clear that Tarrin and his friend were trying to set something up, or plan something, but Campaign for Liberty in no way approves or condones their beliefs.

The Campaign for Liberty believes in freedom, not racial bias.

[Meisterfluscher]

@Galatians416

Hey genius, let me explain something to you. Anti-zionism is by definition pro-Arab. Arabs are a semitic people. Hence, by definition, anti-zionism cannot be "anti-semitic." What you are apparently suggesting is that anti-zionism is inherently anti-Jewish. That too is false. Now with respect to the issue whether the anti-zionist event-crasher in the video was anti-Jewish or not, we cannot know, because you fascist idiots interrupted the filming.

[LCLREPORT]

For real, you think I set this all up, wow. If I did I would not have waled in and filmed just the end of it, I would have been ready and got the whole thing. Not sure where on earth you come up with that I am racist, I never even gave an opinion about the crasher in the story. I tried to just focus on why they would care if I filmed it?

[1mtn1wood4strings]

@LCLREPORT

The irony here is odd. Thanks for pointing that out.

[bedtime4bonzo]

@LCLREPORT - it doesn't matter why they care - they can tell you to stop and you didn't, case closed

[devanaire]

@Galatians416 I take it you are a practicing Christian standing up for the rights of the PEOPLE! GOOD!

[StreeterRebelSoldier]

To your question of why they would ask you not to film that man, it's very simple. The man passing lit. was making very strong accusations that taken out of context could have made RP out to agree with his anti-semetic views, see 3:48 of the film. Taken out of context of the man being thrown out of the event this has a very different impact. They were most likely worried about such editing and its impact. (not accusing you of such practices, just giving you a reason for behavior)

[rdoogie]

It's a private event. They have every right to decide who enters or if cameras are allowed or not. I'm on your side, but I don't like to call it "censorship" when it's an issue of private property. It is creepy that any self-proclaimed "freedom" movement would want to have anything but the most transparent attitude.

That said, you shouldn't conflate "police state" censorship and private property rights.

C4L is stupid to restrict the flow of information, but it's not "censorship".

[Kaluzer]

Very Ironic that Steve Bierfeldt, the man who taped the TSA agents as they try to unfairly question and detain him, would be the one to enforce no filming of what transpired. Steve is highly in favor liberties, so I don't quite understand why he did this one He's a good guy, but I think he messed up here.

[MoneyIsSilver]

Very odd...makes me wonder if it had something to do with the subject matter (zionism).

[DeraJa]

In that context it just seems rude and nosy to be recording an incident like that.

[DeraJa]

LOL he is a nutter!

[pathfinderdaddy]

Howabout a big rebel yell for Tarin? YEEEEEHAW!!!

Who invited them Yankees anyway?

[stratvic]

Authority has the potential to manifest itself the same way where ever you find it.

[taidgh41]

Sad but true WE are living under Marital Law ever sense the inside job of 9/11. We had strong display about all that here in St. Paul back in 2008 with the RNC . Freedom of speech LOL

[dontbeapuppet]

The guy being thrown out was a jerk, granted, but to stop you from filming it, they were a##holes.

C4L needs to apologize.

[NCICOK]

Ron Paul is an idiot!

[bubbaluvs]

Good job with the coverage. I have to say, that as one of the security personnel at that event, we were told of this individual, that he was harrassing people. And while I agree he should be free to distribute whatever information he wants, he doesn't have the right to impede them at their tables. We had MANY complaints about this guy, and most worrisome was when he insisted on getting close to Ron Paul with his briefcase. That is when we decided to check the contents of his case.

[bubbaluvs]

@bubbaluvs: his belligerence during the course of our intervention was what caused us to have him removed by hotel security. As far as the actions of the C4L people trying to shut you down from filming, I don't agree with that. It's not very liberty oriented of them, is it? There are many problems in this organization, as it struggles for it's sense of identity and purpose, and of course, in-fighting and philosophical disputes abound. Will it survive? Not if it keeps on with hypocrisy like this.

[LCLREPORT]

Bubbaluvs, I hope my video was not bashing you guys, I tried very hard to say you did a good job and the right thing, frankly that guy was very intense and made me nervous and I was even armed. So I was glad you all handled it. The only issue I really have was why are they so worried about me filming? I really only have an issue with Steve and those other two bullies. I liked all the local Ga security volunteers, those guys were cool as hell! I just thought them touching my camera was wrong!

[bubbaluvs]

@LCLREPORT ..... I agree with you 100% about stopping you from filming as well as touching your camera. Perhaps your video will make them think about their actions so they don't become the tyrants we oppose.

[rdoogie]

I agree security was heavy-handed and C4L should have sensible "event rules".

BUT! ...

No one is a "tyrant" when it's private property. If I don't allow your guns in my house, It doesn't make me a "tyrant" or "anti-gun". When a theater says 'no food beyond this point", that is not tyranny. I'm exercising "property rights" which is incompatible with "tyranny"!

Liberty doesn't mean freedom to do whatever I want with someone else's property. If you want to oppose tyranny, learn what tyranny is.

[bedtime4bonzo]

@LCLREPORT - they have the authority to forcefully remove you from their private event. they asked you to stop and you ignored it. why are you surprised?

[TDawg2002]

No way it's ok to touch your camera. Then you have the right to push the guy's arm away and things start escalating. I draw the line at physical aggression which is what I consider undesired touching of another person or his property. The only rightful choice they had was to ask you to leave and treat you as the aggressor if you did not.

[grishnav]

As a supporter of the C4L, I find this highly disturbing. While it's certainly their right to control their events as they wish, it's deeply concerning when any political movement tries to reduce it's transparency, especially one that purports to fight for freedom. The C4L has enough clout with me that I will await their statement to make a decision, but another report like this and I will be withdrawing my support.

[adserignese]

You had to ask if you were wrong?

Guys like you will have the government registering video cameras.

In this revolution the camera is the weapon. And just like a gun the user needs to respect it.

Who's side are you on?

You were told respectfully. And you disrespected the people who were charges with security for the event.

They had the right (private property) to call police and have you arrested. But I bet you already considered that angle, so then you could get some real drama going.

[statesRcountries]

Think about your actions from the other side.

1. This was a private event.

2. So, unless you were invited to the event (to film anything you wanted), anything that happened at the event was private - and subject to the control of the organizers.

3. So, as they asked you (politely) to stop filming, you should have stopped filming (when security asked you the first time).

[theater1961]

When Alex Jones and and Hugo Chavez supporters infiltrating your cause, what do you expect????

[potentiallywasted]

Just remember that those guys were just security guards not full representatives of c4l.

[Michael7893]

Frankly the security should have been grateful for you filming this. It shows clearly they where attempting to be polite and professional. Could protect them from a lawsuit at the hands of the disrupter who could have claimed undo force was being used.

[UCDemo]

I think you are over reacting. You say yourself this is a private event, but you didn't respect that and even lied rather than assert yourself when first requested to stop recording. I see them as acting courteous towards you. They obviously were concerned about negative publicity related to this guy -you hear him at one point spouting "zionism", which I'm sure you recognize how opponents of RP and of the larger liberty movement like to use questionable "supporters" as a way to smear RP/C4L.

[Bodhizzle]

Lame.

[Thrice13]

The C4L is a joke.

[hpso12xu]

why?

[Thrice13]

Because the C4L hasn't done anything. The grass roots at Daily Paul and Ron Paul Forms are where you should go if you want to get anything accomplished.

[hpso12xu]

thank you!

[psychientology]

I am in the C4L movement. These people were wrong. If they work directly for the organizers then heads should roll. The one place in the world you should be free is an event about freedom. Those guys need their asses beat. Just my thoughts.

[Spideynw]

It is private property. However, it is also a public event, as such, I see no reason why they would not allow you to film.

[cyfer007]

You need to listen to what he says and the briefcase and shirt design is symbolism of the movie Falling Down

[LCLREPORT]

I tried to state in my report I said I have no issues with the C4L and other security guys, just that I felt kinda bullied by these guys, seriously why all the secrets? I thought they handled the crasher very well. Why on earth would they care about me.

I acknowledge it was private event, but the vendor area is a public area open to the public, anyone can come in, No expectation of privacy is expected in an area like that.

[foxespiritu]

@LCLREPORT

It actually seemed like more of a private and fancy place, in which case they most likely dont want you to film so they can preserve their image.

[gerrilea1]

@LCLREPORT That's exactly what I saw...and private security have no police powers to do anything more than call the POLICE..approaching you and ordering you to stop something...they can try...if you continue behavior they don't like...all they can do again is CALL THE POLICE...

I understand wanting to keep things peaceful, but hired goons are not POLICE..correction in some cases they may be "off duty police"...

[LCLREPORT]

What I am surprised out is nobody seems to care that they actually touched my camera. I am wondering who of you out there think that is ok?

[hpso12xu]

do you feel there was a malicious intent to destroy your property?

[kkassam]

@LCLREPORT.

I'm trying to understand the motivations of Steve and the security people here, and why they were so concerned about your filming.

Is it possible that they thought you were with the Jewish conspiracy nutter, and planning on using the footage in a manner that supported him?

[LCLREPORT]

They never told me, I still am not sure, except Steve said today he thought it would make C4L look racist.

[mengerfan]

That's like a 500 pound woman saying that her pants are what make her ass look fat.

[awakepatriot]

What is the issue? The filming ban or the physical contact and the rudeness? You have have to be clear on what you are asking as they are two separate issues that warrant completely different responses.

[thinkrevolution]

About the crazy guy... It was on private property and it's disrespectful to the vendors who probably had to pay money for tables to have this guy handing out stuff to everyone.

[thinkrevolution]

First let me say that I don't think you should have been prevented from filming..

But I don't think we should judge C4L or anyone else who was there by what these couple of men did. I personally know two of the guys that were talking to the man causing the problems.. They are great people who defend liberty, but they also knew what their job was for the event.

[LCLREPORT]

Sorry I tried to be very clear I did not have an issue with C4L or even the other security that was not involved, infact those guys are cool as hell. My issue is ONLY with Steve and the guys he sent over to me. I felt it was rude and bully behavior and very unacceptable to actually touch my camera. That's it.

[awakepatriot]

If this was wholly the issue, was how they "bullied" you and touched your camera, then the response is clear and easy. You left them no choice. They politely asked you to stop filming first, and you continued to do so. What option did they have after you failed to comply with the first request? Put yourself in their shoes and I think you would have done the same thing. I don't think their behavior was at all inappropriate give that you failed to comply with the polite request to stop filming.

[Meisterfluscher]

Of course they had a choice. When they ask him to stop filming and he refuses, they ask him, unequivocally, to leave the premises. They don't initiate physical contact, either with him or his camera. It's mind-blowing to me that you C4L types won't just acknowledge you screwed up and move on.

[awakepatriot]

Security personnel are required to make physical contact all the time. Image if bouncers at a bar had to ask nicely each time there was a problem in a bar. Or if mall security witnessed a burglary & could not apprehend the suspect. Maybe they should have asked him to leave the premises first, but I suspect he would not have complied with such a request, & thus physical contact was inevitable. I'm sure he would have preferred them touching his camera to them ejecting him from the event.

[MustyCashew]

A little off topic, but did that guy grab the security guard's junk at 3:58?

[kkassam]

No, he's just touching the top part of his briefcase. The security guy's pants and the case are both black, so it's a little hard to tell--but you can bet that any guy getting his junk unexpectedly grabbed would show some sort of reaction.

[faithhopelovep91]

PS this is Erin Morris from FB

[faithhopelovep91]

Tarrin, this doesn't sit right with me at all. Maybe it's a just a few security officers with a God-complex. Does C4L screen these people? Is this how they want them to behave? Isn't this type of thing what we're all fighting against? Reminds me of US military "securing" rather than feeding Haitians.

After the election, I stopped following C4L for the most part. I can't say it's for any particular reason. Perhaps they lost my attn staying too politically correct; not hitting hard enough.

[jeffmoppi]

That big guy in the yellow shirt looks like some sort of soldier.

[jaimekid]

I wonder what would have happened if a guy with a yarmulke walked by that guy?

[LCLREPORT]

I eventually did shut off the camera, because it was a private event, but I felt very bullied about it. I even told them don't you want this on film in case something bad happens to your security, and they said no. Even funnier the main guy Steve (he was snapping his fingers, waving me off and ordering security to stop me was the same guy who was praised as a hero for secretly taping the TSA giving him a hard time. Oh the irony is bitter!

[1983Bantam]

@LCLREPORT

That's not ironic. The TSA is a government agency with illegitimate power. However, he, as a security guy at a private event, had legitimate power. You simply didn't have a right to be filming there - sorry.

[MustyCashew]

@1983Bantam The point of it is that this was being filmed at a liberty event and the guy telling him not to film was praised as a "hero" for secret filming. This was done in the open and they didn't give a reason why. If they told Tarrin, "hey this is a private function promoting liberty and we don't want you to be free to film events about freedom." then so be it. The whole point of liberty is to be free so why would you sensor a video? Afraid something might get exposed that is not pro-liberty

[1983Bantam]

@MustyCashew

The whole point of liberty is to be free /on your own property/. You're not free do whatever the hell you want on/with other people's property.

[MustyCashew]

That's part of the problem. If you say, "I own my own home." Do you really? With all of the taxes we pay to this government that has become more and more socialistic, aren't you really just renting a piece of property to build a house that the government can come take if you don't pay your rent? The main point of liberty is to let you have your freedoms without goons forcing you to follow their orders. All I am saying is that in this particular public place there was a liberty function...

[1983Bantam]

"Do you really?"

Yeah, I do, and fuck anyone who disagrees. It's like saying, "Well someone just mugged you, so do you really own what you have?" The answer is still "Fuck yes" regardless. Maybe the mugger is in possession of it now, but I still fucking own it.

That said - this guy was a private event and didn't have the right to film anything. Period. It was the people who owned/rented the place that had the right to say what was or was not going to go on there.

[MustyCashew]

@1983Bantam Exactly. Not the hired goons who wanted to act tough at a LIBERTY movement where FREEDOM is wanted by everyone there. Scroll down and read the posts here who are members of the C4L. By the way....try moving back into "your" house if you don't pay your fees to the government who mugs you on a daily basis. You may think it is a duckbill platypus if you want, but it doesn't still make it so.

[1983Bantam]

"try moving back into "your" house if you don't pay your fees to the government who mugs you on a daily basis."

Look, idiot, I understand that the government is in possession. That doesn't mean they 'own' it. Ownership is a concept, not simply a physical state of being.

That said - the hired goons are representatives of the people who own that area and have every right to stop people filming.

[kjax76]

@1983Bantam And why would they not want people filming? And why not make that known to attendees from the get-go?

[1983Bantam]

Who knows? Why do some people prefer red over blue? It doesn't really matter, because you have no right to force your preferences upon the property and lives of others. As for no filming from the get-go: Things change on the fly. Shit was being stirred up and then the no-camera thing happened. That's the discretion of the land-owner.

[MustyCashew]

...being held where one SHOULD be allowed to be free. If they don't allow you, they are straying from the main objective of liberty-minded beings.

[Kitswain59]

The security company was probably hired. C4L wouldn't know their tactics, but should.

[GAPeachWoman]

Thanks for the video Tarrin. This was a private event of course like you stated. I know several of the security guards who volunteered for this event with the exception of those that came up to you. Personally, I think you are correct that they felt this guy was going to make a bigger show for any camera. He certainly was attempting to make a scene. He should have paid for a booth like everyone else if he had things to hand out. Maybe they already knew something about him that we did not.

[irvnz]

fear and force are often similar,

[silentthriller]

I don't know what to think of it. It seems like you should have been able to document anything there. You had already been filming there without any problems, so I don't know what changed.

[bronxer78]

Terrin, you are not over-reacting. You are completely correct that the goons (yes, if it quacks like a goon, and talks like a goon, then taxiderm it like a goon!) had no reason to stop you. If they were following their security protocols (that is, doing their job properly), then they should have no reason to disapprove of the footage. If anything, the footage would demonstrate that they were following orders, but no... they gooned out!

Will C4L become the new discriminatory gatekeeper? <:|

[Hillsjl51]

I really like what you do, but people espousing Zionism conspiracy nuttery does nothing for the legitimacy of the Liberty movement. The pejorative connotations of such crap are exactly with what Ron Paul is often attacked.

Perhaps the C4L people did over react. However, discretion is at the bedrock of practicable liberty. Liberty without discretion breeds anarchy, and the fear of anarchy is why people sacrifice their liberty in the first place. Not a criticism, just a suggestion.

[1983Bantam]

"The pejorative connotations of such crap are exactly with what Ron Paul is often attacked."

Exactly. Look at the youtube videos that show the nutcases at Sarah Palin's event that talk about how Obama is muslim and half-black. Those make her look really bad, and seeing an asshole like briefcase guy would do the same to Paul. I would have asked you to stop filming, too, as it was none of your business at a PRIVATE event.

[winslowwind]

I would like to have seen you interview the person who was being thrown out and then interview security. It is difficult to understand why they asked you to stop filming and who hired the security. We must be discerning and not react emotionally.

[shesapainter]

The campaign for money doesn't want to expose the truth

[hornshwangler]

You were right to film the event @ C4L and the 'security' should have backed off. Keep up the good work!

[gerrilea1]

Control, Control, Control...ugly stuff!

What are they afraid of? In a public venue, which it seems that it was, there is no expectation of privacy...

Touching you or your property is assault!

Private persons who touch my property would be held accountable!