The Ummah (Jay Dee) - ATCQ - Weekendz (unreleased)

[veryfirstBiz]

i'm so happy that i bought this vinyl back then, wouldn't sell it for any price!

thx for uploading!

[pionyang]

Today is saturday and i'm hiiiighh

[Dvader723]

@ OperationDEE

By the way....... Great uploads.

[Dvader723]

@OperationDEE

Very interesting. If at all possable , cud u post that link of that qtip interview.

I would like to see that for myself. Also curious to know if it was before or after Dillas death ... Cus its not like Dilla is going to pop up from the grave and confront questionable claims

[Dvader723]

Truth is that J dilla did do 98% of the ummah joints..he said it himself in an interview. That why he was beefin with qtip for awhile and the ummah broke up.. Dilla left cus he wasnt gettin credit for hot joints like these. Even Consequens himself admitts it. Its a shame that cats dont kno bout all his productions that were stolen. Everyone shud jus shut the hell up and pay Ms. Yancey!!!!

[OperationDEE]

@Dvader723

Q-tip commented on the dilla interview, saying that all 3 of them all equally take credit for every song Ummah put out. But the credits could have been more specific.

Q-tip on keyboard, Jay on drums, Ali on Mix and Arrangment etc.

[zeusforlife2002]

@OperationDEE - never knew that.....Thats dope!!!!!!!

[Fugeosoul]

@ssaleem92 Hmm. Sorry, didn't mean to give anyone false credit. I just was under the impression Jay did this one, was wrong.

Shit happens.

[PTSO09]

So much controversy haha regardless this is a pretty cool track

[JauntyOne87]

@PTSO09 Hahaha, true true

[BoliviaMafia]

there not jy dees drums sounds more like Q-tips rythum

[HalSamuel]

I think Q-Tip produced this. I've got a feeling Dilla had nothing to do with it, even if it was released under the Ummah banner.

[satake24]

いいよいいよ〜

[ShiddyCrisp]

One method to create an explosion sound on snare can be made by a Reverb effect

[LocksmithMusic]

Q-Tip did the rest (with the exception of this song). I believe I posted "Armani Frames" on my blog (I Heart My Polo Lifestyle) so you could probably check it there. Enjoy!

[LordFerrand]

Stay blessed through this music keep doing what you do impacting souls. Dilla's impacted mine greatly. One love.

[ipopmyjunk]

Can you please tell me, as a producer, how did Jay Dee and Ali Shaheed get that "explosion" sound on their snares? Good example is "motivators" on beats rhymes album...Is that an 808 snare and/or rimshot in layered in there? PLEASE!! lol peace stay up

[Iansback]

By having excellent ears for samples or recording live instrumentation.

If you dig around on the internet you can find some dope ass snares.

[illest22]

@ipopmyjunk it aint shaheed its tip....ali didnt do the beats

[LocksmithMusic]

The late/great J. Dilla didn't produce this. Consequence produced it. Brought the sample to Ali Shaheed Muhammad & they hooked it up together. This is from Consequence's (would've been debut) album Hostile Takeover on Q-Tip & Ali's imprint on Elektra Records label: Museum Music. J-Dilla (then Jay Dee) produced 3 songs on there, Havoc did 1, I (88-Keys) produced 2 (one featuring Busta Rhymes called "Armani Frames" [mis-titled & mis-credited on the bootleg version as "Riot" prod. by Jay Dee)...

[shaungoals]

@LocksmithMusic thats pretty cool, thanks for the info 88.

[shaundilla08]

man where can i find this

[shaundilla08]

dope

[pops4u95]

Consequence spittin.

[dudethe2nd]

I'd love to know how they broke down this production stuff between the 3 of them...the beat def sounds like Tip and Shaheed and the sample and atmospheric strings on the chorus sounds like Dilla.

[superfatdoe]

snare like blaow

[69jamrock]

I love Consequence when he's rhyming Tribe style - not the biggest fan of his solo stuff but dig him on this, on Beats Rhymes & Life and on his Tribe remakes Buggin Out, Electric Relaxation etc. I've got this EP on wax!

[mcYunBaconBitz]

The Ummah consisted of Q-tip, Jay Dee, and Ali Shaheed Muhamma (not just Dilla) and produced most of ATCQ's tracks after their 4th album

[lachon91]

thanks for posting this iLL shit

[bigTforreal]

This definitely sound like a Q-tip TRACK!! The drums and bass line sounds like a classic Q-tip production

[iancurtis86]

True that. Drum line is Tip-styled.

The sample sounds very Dilla, though.

[jaymorand1]

@bigTforreal LMAO @ "sounds like a Q-Tip track". All Q-tip's production sounds like Jay Dee shit....be for real!!!! All that Ummah shit was Jay Dee.....the world needs to know it and Tip and Shah need to take their names off of those records and pay Mrs. Yancey some fuckin royalties! The sloppy drums, off-beat quantization, filtered baselines and thick keyboards chords them cats started experimenting with never existed in their music before Jay Dee came! They both are good in their own right,

[bigTforreal]

It's cool if it was Dilla that produced this...Jay DEE from the D is one of my most favorite producers of all time. However, I always thought that Q-tip did not get enough credit for his production skills..So let's not give Dilla all the credit..Tip was producing before Dilla was founded..no disrespect to Dilla..but Tip did do the first 3 tribes..a lot on Mobb Deep Infamous album, One Love with Nas, Crooklyn Dodgers, Craig Mack Get Down Remix..The World is yours Remx. Tip did a lot for the game

[beautifulopusoflove]

@jaymorand1 jay cites Q-tip as a major influence. you're like those dudes who think dilla did electronic relaxation. q-tip founded the style and dilla expanded on it. the ummah credit is another issue entirely.

[jaymorand1]

@beautifulopusoflove of course, Jay Dee would cite Q-tip as a major influence. Anyone making REAL hip hop in the early 90's would and SHOULD have. Hey, I'm from Detroit......i was listening to original Jay Dee/SV mixtapes from the Rhythm Kitchen back in '92. WAY b4 he started working with Quest! LOL so i'm not someone who thinks Dilla did Electric Relaxation, don't be ridiculous. Q-Tip never filtered his samples in the fashion he did b4 Jay Dee, nor did he chop his drums that way. Hand claps???

[illest22]

@jaymorand1 pete rock did relaxation.....a secret not told. and jay dee said he wanted to be pete rock.

[jaymorand1]

@illest22 i heard that from an anonymous source years ago, but didn't believe it lol. It's no secret that Jay Dee was influenced by Pete Rock, he was his idol........ there was always a question of who was the dopest producer in the game back in the 90s, Primo or PR? Jay Dee was moreso influenced by Pete, who was smoother and more melodic than Primo, who we know was choppier and more percussive. But thanx, that explains a little more about that track, but i definitely NEVER gave Jay Dee credit

[jaymorand1]

...i see 88 Keys offered a bit of info, too! see how the industry messes with people's royalties AND ur catalog? the fact that Jay Dee's name ends up on a track that 88 Keys did is a perfect example! All i'm sayin' is years later, there are a lotta tracks with Q-Tip's name on them that are being found to be done by other people. It happens............

[illest22]

@jaymorand1 pete actually flipped electric relaxation on arsenio hall show one night

[JauntyOne87]

@illest22 Sorry, just for clarity, it's well known now that Pete did "We Got The Jazz", you're saying he did electric relaxation too?!?! This information could turn my world upside down!!!!

[sweipea]

Old skool,luv the stylo!!!

[pjpj2008]

yes yes yaw'll!!

[spearmintt]

Them snares sound like mid 90's Q-Tip. Check Nas & Mobb Deep remixes by him for comparison. Truthfully though, their production sounded reeeeeal similar at the time. I think it's Tip though. Either way? This is tiiiiiiiight...

...and liveguy? That Riot joint (dope, dope stuff) with Quence and Busta was produced by 88 Keys.

[Markkos2008]

@spearmintt i agree with you , if people has any doubts check mobb deeps's ''temperatures rising remix, the same drums

[inclove1]

thanks...this quality sounds better than the other one i have....

[Hagenbroktellem]

Beyond fresh

[djt2012]

That's P. Diddy spittin'. He produced it too.

[Fugeosoul]

Consequence spittin'. Jay producin'.

[ssaleem92]

@Fugeosoul and Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad also producin'. Jay Dee didn't do EVERYTHING under The Ummah. Stop giving him false credit.

[howhigh20]

haha damn foo

[JayyDeeeee]

lol.

[718BKNYC]

ATCQ, in lane 1 of the hip hop race track.

[Fugeosoul]

I'm both an ATCQ head as a Dilla head, but I've never heard of this one. And by listening to the beat, and the fact that Quence is spittin' on this one, I'm guessing this was made in '96/'97?

Thanks for this, by the way :D

[pereira1000]

It sounds like Consequence.

[liveguy]

It's some Cons demo shit. His demo was beastly! Beats by Dilla!?!? WOW! Riot w/ Busta is my shit!

[LocksmithMusic]

"Riot" was actually titled "Armani Frames" & it was produced by me (88-Keys). Thanks for the props.

[liveguy]

I stand corrected. Dope music, regardless. Always been a fan of ur work, duke.

[LocksmithMusic]

Thanks homey. All good. Be sure to check me out on iTunes though. Got some stuff on there.

[liveguy]

Indeed. You need to bless the world with a beat tape from the 98-00 years, son! I'd buy ten of them shits! Hahaa. ALSO..please find a way to get Shawn J. Period back in the game! Thanks. LMAO!

[Drastoe88]

Who is that spittin..???

It doesn't sound like fife or q-tip..

Is it Ali Shahee Muhamed..??

[theglory88]

nice joint propz. tribe 4 life

[memoricalbanks]

that's consequence spittin' on this.