what is interesting is that in berea, ohio, when you park on depot street you are literally 6 feet from the csx main line. those trains cruise past at like 45 or 50 mph
I guess all the train crews are nervous these days about sabotage. But doesn't it sound more logical that a rail fan should be enlisted to lookout for suspicious activity than to be the focus of an investigation into that. A terrorist who had planted an explosive under the track wouldn't be hanging around next to the tracks would they? They wouldn't be anywhere near there would they? How did they act in Iraq? Just seems like over reacting to me. Am I wrong?
i was told to move my truck once,i was told i had to be 7 ft away from a live line,this guy sounded like he was talking out his butt, he also needs to learn how to speak better english
i was told to move my truck once,i was told i had to be 7 ft away from a live line,this guy sounded like he was talking out his butt, he also needs to learn how to spreak better english
I walked into the local signal maintainers office for CSX outside Detroit to inform him on a broken rail joiner on the siding not 100' from the office. Lo and behold a Rail Cop was in the office with him. He wrote my name in his note pad and gave a verbal warning to me- hell of a thanks.
You DO NOT have to produce ID. You are only obligated to give your name. And that is to the real police, not these rental "couldn't pass the PD test" rental cops. What would they do, take you to railroad court?
In fact, I would have asked this guy for his green card on suspicion of trespassing in this country
@niselat Wrong. Railroad Police in almost all states have full Police Officer status. You most certainly have to produce ID when asked. Try playing that here in NY, and you WILL be sitting in a jail cell very quikly. All of the agencies, AMTRACK, MTA...etc have full powers of arrest, and go through the full municpal police traning council academy that all police go through. In addition, MTA Police also have jurisdiction on Connecticut. MTA Police is a result of merging all the RR Police
@devildoc225 you DO NOT have to produce ID when asked by any cop. only if they are detaining you. and no one cares about how they do things in NY. you get arrested for eating high fat food in that Nazi state
@niselat Again, you are wrong. Stop giving out false information, because somebody reading your BS will wind up getting collared for nonsense thanks to you.
@niselat Any sworn law enforcement officer has the legal authority, if they believe a crime has been, or is about to be committed, to demand ID. It's that simple. Cut the railfan nonsense, and stop talking about what you obviously know NOTHING about. And it has nothing to do with my state.
@devildoc225 nice googling.you just said the same thing i did. if you have not been involved in a crime the cops cannot detain you thus you do not have to produce ID
@niselat Railroad police are fully authorized officers in all U.S. jurisdictions. Like someone else said, they have full police powers on and off railroad property just like any other police officer. They are unique in this way - employed by private companies, but are police. Back in the '90s the History Channel did a whole series on American railroads and one of those episodes dealt with the background of railroad police and how this all came to be.
That must of been shot in Colton, CA. I have 5 buddies that work for the Railroad Police. BNSF has told me, 25 to 30 feet. UP, I don't what he was talking about
@yorktown1000 It is whatever the railroad owns. The railroad may own 100'....or 200'....or 50' of the center line. He is right. Crews do get nervous if you are close
Th railroads property measures 50ft out from the centerline between the gauge of the track. So anything within that area outside of grade crossings is considered railroad property. Although most of the time most crews dont care as long as your not stupid. As im sure the videographer experienced, not all run ins with the RRPD are totally negative.
Norfolk Southern really could care less, but alot of their engineers are personal friends with me which is a plus. An engineer actually argued with another crew about the fact that I was NOT a suspicous railfan. They argued about this over the radio. My friend, Roger had passed me just before the follwing train (Railfan Hater crew) had passed. The 2nd crew called DS, but was interupted by Roger telling them off. After a ID check, I was told I could stay and come as I please. Thanks, Roger.
cop didn't HAVE to give the man a warning, just explaining the concern would have been enough but he had to go one step further just to show HIS athourity , several of my friends are police officers and have often said a kind word can do just as much depending on the situation makes for better relations .
30 years working fo a rr ,this video is more then 50 % bull .a train man has far more to worry about then a rail fan.many many rr workers get hurt and killed by safety issues.
What is the difference between NS police (or CSX, UP, etc) and regular city cops? Are they just police who specifically patrol and work at train yards?
I know this officer, he is a real straight shooter. I also work as a guard for the trains and they move vary fast its easy to get too close, accidents can be real nasty.
NS doesn't care. As long as you're not on the tracks, they don't give a rip. CSX didn't appreciate us in their yard, but we told them there were no signs, so we didn't know.
@Weiberts Iv had only one NS train call the cops on me. i was able to drive away quick enough, but he was describing me and my father to a tee to the dispacther, we were close i guess, but he had to of been a good mile away, yard job...kinda a dick if you ask me.
@Weiberts true. I've been at a ns yard about 15 feet from the tracks while they were hooking up some hoppers. They looked at me and continued their business. It was a good show too, seeing the whole line jolt when the engine backs into it is awesome.
Holy S**t!! Do you have any idea HOW MANY TIMES this has happened to ME??? I didn't get them all on tape & wasn't always taken' pics. Sometimes just traveling w/my helmets!! Always have my GPS to prove my history, if needed, lol!! Vegas, that's your city, that's where you are?
@dieselducy i live in pennsylvania, my wife and i were railfanning in cresson pa, we were on NS property, i believe the NS officer was just doing his rounds, he pulled up beside my car, asked what we were doing, then advised me to find another spot to railfan, he actually talked to my wife and i for a bit then when he said it was time to go, we left
@joshdillon2003 I live In PA too, and I railfan by the Harrisburg line that runs from Harris-to Reading,pa and I've never had a problem/ encounter with NS Police. I usually sit by railroad crossings anyways and Wernersville, an Richland are great places to get close to the trains without any problem.
Well you said you were there taking pics so what i meant was if you were still talking to the officer you would of missed a perfectly good photo opertunity.
what is interesting is that in berea, ohio, when you park on depot street you are literally 6 feet from the csx main line. those trains cruise past at like 45 or 50 mph
clevelandtrainfan 1 month ago
I guess all the train crews are nervous these days about sabotage. But doesn't it sound more logical that a rail fan should be enlisted to lookout for suspicious activity than to be the focus of an investigation into that. A terrorist who had planted an explosive under the track wouldn't be hanging around next to the tracks would they? They wouldn't be anywhere near there would they? How did they act in Iraq? Just seems like over reacting to me. Am I wrong?
grayfox455 1 month ago
thats cool the cop was cool about the hole thing !
B83024 1 month ago
I was allowed right next to the NS mainline in my town a few months ago by two really nice employees. There was even a train slowly passing by. :)
Jamersonde 3 months ago
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i was told to move my truck once,i was told i had to be 7 ft away from a live line,this guy sounded like he was talking out his butt, he also needs to learn how to speak better english
ajkopy 3 months ago
i was told to move my truck once,i was told i had to be 7 ft away from a live line,this guy sounded like he was talking out his butt, he also needs to learn how to spreak better english
ajkopy 3 months ago
man im 13teen and ive had the NS police called on me 2 times for being to close.lol i stoped a train!!
NS2658 3 months ago
WOW. You found one of our cops. You found one quicker than i could when i found genuine tresspassers on the property.
tonyzwgames 3 months ago
I walked into the local signal maintainers office for CSX outside Detroit to inform him on a broken rail joiner on the siding not 100' from the office. Lo and behold a Rail Cop was in the office with him. He wrote my name in his note pad and gave a verbal warning to me- hell of a thanks.
addamochs 3 months ago
You DO NOT have to produce ID. You are only obligated to give your name. And that is to the real police, not these rental "couldn't pass the PD test" rental cops. What would they do, take you to railroad court?
In fact, I would have asked this guy for his green card on suspicion of trespassing in this country
niselat 3 months ago
@niselat Railroad cops are not really renta cops. Most of them have full arrest powers, in many states on and off railroad property.
steve001968 2 months ago
@niselat Wrong. Railroad Police in almost all states have full Police Officer status. You most certainly have to produce ID when asked. Try playing that here in NY, and you WILL be sitting in a jail cell very quikly. All of the agencies, AMTRACK, MTA...etc have full powers of arrest, and go through the full municpal police traning council academy that all police go through. In addition, MTA Police also have jurisdiction on Connecticut. MTA Police is a result of merging all the RR Police
devildoc225 1 month ago
@devildoc225 you DO NOT have to produce ID when asked by any cop. only if they are detaining you. and no one cares about how they do things in NY. you get arrested for eating high fat food in that Nazi state
niselat 1 month ago
@niselat Again, you are wrong. Stop giving out false information, because somebody reading your BS will wind up getting collared for nonsense thanks to you.
devildoc225 1 month ago
@devildoc225 no i am 100% correct. provide a cite that proves me wrong or stop misleading people just because you want to look cool on the internet
niselat 1 month ago
@niselat Any sworn law enforcement officer has the legal authority, if they believe a crime has been, or is about to be committed, to demand ID. It's that simple. Cut the railfan nonsense, and stop talking about what you obviously know NOTHING about. And it has nothing to do with my state.
devildoc225 1 month ago
@devildoc225 nice googling.you just said the same thing i did. if you have not been involved in a crime the cops cannot detain you thus you do not have to produce ID
niselat 1 month ago
@niselat Railroad police are fully authorized officers in all U.S. jurisdictions. Like someone else said, they have full police powers on and off railroad property just like any other police officer. They are unique in this way - employed by private companies, but are police. Back in the '90s the History Channel did a whole series on American railroads and one of those episodes dealt with the background of railroad police and how this all came to be.
newtoliver 1 month ago
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niselat 3 months ago
That must of been shot in Colton, CA. I have 5 buddies that work for the Railroad Police. BNSF has told me, 25 to 30 feet. UP, I don't what he was talking about
bigern32480 3 months ago
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bigern32480 3 months ago
yea here in the upstate of South Carolina. It is 100ft from the center of the closest track. But i never have any problems.
yorktown1000 4 months ago
@yorktown1000 It is whatever the railroad owns. The railroad may own 100'....or 200'....or 50' of the center line. He is right. Crews do get nervous if you are close
Boss302fan 4 months ago
Th railroads property measures 50ft out from the centerline between the gauge of the track. So anything within that area outside of grade crossings is considered railroad property. Although most of the time most crews dont care as long as your not stupid. As im sure the videographer experienced, not all run ins with the RRPD are totally negative.
SouthernEMDFan 4 months ago
Csx is 15ft
TSBy390 5 months ago
50 Feet? CP doesnt have problem if your 5 feet from a moving train!
gumball469 5 months ago
Norfolk Southern really could care less, but alot of their engineers are personal friends with me which is a plus. An engineer actually argued with another crew about the fact that I was NOT a suspicous railfan. They argued about this over the radio. My friend, Roger had passed me just before the follwing train (Railfan Hater crew) had passed. The 2nd crew called DS, but was interupted by Roger telling them off. After a ID check, I was told I could stay and come as I please. Thanks, Roger.
nsrailfann4life91 5 months ago
cop didn't HAVE to give the man a warning, just explaining the concern would have been enough but he had to go one step further just to show HIS athourity , several of my friends are police officers and have often said a kind word can do just as much depending on the situation makes for better relations .
john6218att 6 months ago
CSX in Mass awsome about letting and liking railfans. Just don't be in a position to get in the way at all and stay off of the tracks.
davarph 7 months ago
Please disregard last comment. I agree with john6218. But at least give the officer credit for doing his job.
Conrail2576 9 months ago
I agree with john6218. But at leadst
Conrail2576 9 months ago
30 years working fo a rr ,this video is more then 50 % bull .a train man has far more to worry about then a rail fan.many many rr workers get hurt and killed by safety issues.
stealthgerm 9 months ago
man with a badge got to throw his 2 cents worth in mind your own business leave harmless people alone
john6218att 10 months ago
@john6218att The dood is doing his job.
snifyoner 6 months ago
What is the difference between NS police (or CSX, UP, etc) and regular city cops? Are they just police who specifically patrol and work at train yards?
OsmosisDives 10 months ago
@OsmosisDives Yeah pretty much
grandtetons 10 months ago
This is why you wave at the trains!
metroliner89 11 months ago 2
hey that sucks KCS could careless if i could but i only 15' alway from the nears rail any way havent have the railroad call the cops on me at all.
guitar446 11 months ago
@guitar446 Dude, your comment made my brain hurt. How about a little punctuation and a spell checker! :)
But I think I know what you are saying. Thanks for the comment.
AllenRockwell 11 months ago
@AllenRockwell SSSorry, about that Im very tried. O your welcome.
guitar446 11 months ago
@AllenRockwell technically, i hear it is only 25 feet on either side of the rails. anything over 25 feet is not rr property unless posted
RailsandRoads 3 months ago
I know this officer, he is a real straight shooter. I also work as a guard for the trains and they move vary fast its easy to get too close, accidents can be real nasty.
markhammons 1 year ago
Man, he even gave you directions to another spot!!
Rtchugg 1 year ago
NS doesn't care. As long as you're not on the tracks, they don't give a rip. CSX didn't appreciate us in their yard, but we told them there were no signs, so we didn't know.
Weiberts 1 year ago
@Weiberts Iv had only one NS train call the cops on me. i was able to drive away quick enough, but he was describing me and my father to a tee to the dispacther, we were close i guess, but he had to of been a good mile away, yard job...kinda a dick if you ask me.
thaxremix 1 year ago
@Weiberts true. I've been at a ns yard about 15 feet from the tracks while they were hooking up some hoppers. They looked at me and continued their business. It was a good show too, seeing the whole line jolt when the engine backs into it is awesome.
OsmosisDives 10 months ago
in colorado its 8 feet
but i am allowed to tresspass on Union Pacific land
lbrendse 1 year ago
Holy S**t!! Do you have any idea HOW MANY TIMES this has happened to ME??? I didn't get them all on tape & wasn't always taken' pics. Sometimes just traveling w/my helmets!! Always have my GPS to prove my history, if needed, lol!! Vegas, that's your city, that's where you are?
HelmetReality 1 year ago
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HelmetReality 1 year ago
here its only 25 to 15 feet in mississippi here
guitar446 1 year ago
Good Job Seisel!!!
mikesheritage5 1 year ago
happened to me once, i put the officer on hold so i can catch it. it was a heritage unit so i had to get it lol
upac4400cw 1 year ago
Don't come to Vegas it's 100 feet up here!
newtonx4 1 year ago
@newtonx4
Hmm, I worked in Vegas for a year and never had a problem.
AllenRockwell 1 year ago
trouble causer!
rock1271 1 year ago
I had a similar situtation with the NS police. Have to say they were very nice and respectful as well.
joshdillon2003 1 year ago
@joshdillon2003 where did you deal with our police department? They are pretty nice for the most part.
dieselducy 1 year ago
@dieselducy i live in pennsylvania, my wife and i were railfanning in cresson pa, we were on NS property, i believe the NS officer was just doing his rounds, he pulled up beside my car, asked what we were doing, then advised me to find another spot to railfan, he actually talked to my wife and i for a bit then when he said it was time to go, we left
joshdillon2003 1 year ago
@joshdillon2003 I live In PA too, and I railfan by the Harrisburg line that runs from Harris-to Reading,pa and I've never had a problem/ encounter with NS Police. I usually sit by railroad crossings anyways and Wernersville, an Richland are great places to get close to the trains without any problem.
conrailbuff 1 year ago
at least a train didnt come past when he was talking to you. That would of sucked.
JakBal3112 1 year ago
Why is that?
AllenRockwell 1 year ago
Well you said you were there taking pics so what i meant was if you were still talking to the officer you would of missed a perfectly good photo opertunity.
JakBal3112 1 year ago
@AllenRockwell you wouldn't have been able to film the train.
juice12369 9 months ago