wow...fire is a hot thing. that's correct, but the fire temperature required to make metal, (steel more specifically) molten is at least 3000 F. The fires in the building burned to about 1500 F...tipping towards 2000 F....
something OTHER than just "fire" achieved that 3000 F temp. And we have molten steel.
"i know you are an fool..." yes, in my own little world we use proper grammar.
Anyway...the buildings burned for an hour...you're telling me it only takes ONE hour of this "fire" to completely collapse two of the largest buildings in the USA?
Why did the south tower fall first when it was hit second?
Also, explosions were heard (and felt) in the basement areas....did a plane crash there too?
I agree Saddam was a killer and it's a good thing he is gone, my point is that war started from a lie by our government, I am not saying what you're doing is wrong, you're a brave man for being in the Army helping people out and fighting for you're country.
You don't believe anything else they say, why should you take the government's word for it that a man who killed 400,000 people with chemical weapons, and who had thousands of chemical warheads in his coutnry when we invaded had no WMD?
But he did have. And we saw them.
And that is not all, as you will learn.
Oh yes, Saddam was every bit the threat Colin Powell said he was - and as much as I support him, I don't agree with the President in caving to political pressure on it.
Actually, no atomic weapons or means of creating same were found in Iraq. Saddam was a liar, so ignore what he said. Focus on evidence. No evidence of atomic weapons before hand. No evidence found in the wake of the invasion. Saddam was no threat to us or our interests, and we were engaged in another war at the time. Still are. Stupid move on many levels. As well as dishonest.
AH Yeah that's not my point, my point is the hole in the pentagon was level with the ground, the engines on thoughts jets hang down over 5 feet from the underneath of the jet, therefore they MUST have been huge ruts from the engines on the front lawn, yet the lawn was perfect.
no he wasn't the greatest mass murderer. He did murder alot of people though (with the weapons WE gave him), but he was recruited and trained at the age of 19 by OUR CIA. I wish the CIA would stop setting up dictators and training Al Qaeda (which is arab for "the base").
yeah, before the US military got to Iraq, they had running water, electricity and 60% of females were in college. Look at the country now. The US military sure helped them.
that's not true...we sold him the mustard gas as well...and last time i checked...that's chemical.
i'm not communistic, and i think it's quite irresponsible of you to make a character judgement based on very little information. I would expect more from you, but i realize you're just a grunt. And i'm not naive.
And YES, i suggest that our government should STOP paying and creating assholes to gain world control. For god's sake...Al Queda was created by our government.
Take a good look at those jets the motors hand down ALLOT yet the hole is level with the ground, the video that was released shows an image of something hovering close to the ground. The hole is in deed almost at ground level yet no damage to the front lawn. What about the videos from the Shariton Hotel or the Citgo gas station across the street, the FBI was there in minutes to take them, why have they never been shown.
If I thought I could stop it I would have a shit load of 911 truth videos about the twin towers and the pentagon, however when you look at the videos in my channel you wont see any of these videos because I know there is nothing we can do about it. It's in Gods hands however that doesn't change the fact that a passenger jet did not fly into the pentagon or the fact that thermite was used to take the world trade towers down. Look at the hole in the pentagon,its almost level with the ground.
Put the videos up. I want to see them, and frankly doubt that what you claim is true.
Planes can fly into buildings at ground level.
Jet Fuel can burn hot enough to melt metal - easily - moreover, a few members being broken in a building so tall can cause catastrophic failure and collapse.
ht tp : // you tube . com / watch ?v = oM yrFY 45 NN8
Another good video from a fellow Christian. Take into consideration I am a Christian Jeff I am not agents you in any way I just want you to see the truth about 911. Take care and God Bless.
The truth is, God is on His throne and rules all things.
And all things work together for good to those that love God, to the called according to his purpose.
But if you think any of that makes our own government guilty of murdering its own citizens in the modern era - you have let your imagination and some silly theories run away with you.
"Do you suspect you will stop it?" No I don't think I could stop anything, these things are told about in the Bible and will come to pass so yeah I you're right there isn't shit I can do about it. That isn't going to stop me from learning about the evil that controls the world, that way I know were it's coming from and can possibly protect myself and my family better with that knowledge.
You think evil things about people you never met. Can yo not find anywhere in the Bible where that is sin? I certainly can.
These evil and acusing thoughts of yours, without names to name - secret organizations, etc- builds everything except hope, or chances for addressing the problems (part of the reason why secret organizations are so nefarious).
Just focus on the evil behaviors, and the one righteous standard - God's word.
Yes that's right Jeff the devil controls America, here is a video of President Bush admitting he's a skull and bones member, now take into consideration skull and bones is a Satanic cult. Bush is a FAKE Christian!
Ht tp :/ / w w w . yo u tube . c om/ watch ? v = nY -- 0 O MA q N q I
I totally agree with tedhuntington, steal frame buildings don't FREE FALL and that fire did not burn hot enough to melt the steal, then there is building 7 you would have to be a fool not to see it was not a collapse, and then there is Larry Silverstien that admitted he "HAD TO PULL IT". You can also see the demo squibs as the world trade towers are falling, this is not due to pressure!
You're a better architect than all the people who built the WTC, and investigated this thing. They are all in a giant conspiracy with Popular Mechanics, etc.
You just don't see how these things are put together, is all.
I've studied mechanical engineering, thermofluid dynamics, and physics.
You'll be surprised what counterintuitive things are possible when you add and multiply forces as happened on 9-11.
thanks for the comment, but there is no way fire or plane impact can melt steel, or else our BBQ grills and gas stoves would melt. What is McFly? Was that in a Michael J Fox movie?
wow...fire is a hot thing. that's correct, but the fire temperature required to make metal, (steel more specifically) molten is at least 3000 F. The fires in the building burned to about 1500 F...tipping towards 2000 F....
something OTHER than just "fire" achieved that 3000 F temp. And we have molten steel.
you still there, McFly?
avth76 4 years ago
Yeah, I think you don't understand much about fire, or buildings.
We have awesome weight, and pressure, and jet fuel on fire.
An M1 Tank engine idles with temps at about 1500F depending on where you measure.
I don't think you understand how many different types of metal there are, or what temperatures it all melts at.
I know you are an fool ref. how public servants - fire and military people work, or why they do, or what they do.
You're in your own little world.
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
"i know you are an fool..." yes, in my own little world we use proper grammar.
Anyway...the buildings burned for an hour...you're telling me it only takes ONE hour of this "fire" to completely collapse two of the largest buildings in the USA?
Why did the south tower fall first when it was hit second?
Also, explosions were heard (and felt) in the basement areas....did a plane crash there too?
avth76 3 years ago
Whatever grammar you couch it in, it is still stupidity. Some idiots have to get a PhD to become as stupid as they are.
The issue is collasping key points in the structure -- the weight does the rest.
Those buidings were never designed to withstand that level of intensity in fire anywhere high up.
You ever been within a mile of an explosion?
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
Damn typos sorry about that, you asked "Where is you evidence for thermite?" well here is my answer. --
W w . you tube . c o m / watch ? v =_ Pm 0s 8f h w wg
H t t p : / / p I rate new s . org / thermite -- thermate -- wtc -- steel 400 . jpg
motoruler 4 years ago
I agree Saddam was a killer and it's a good thing he is gone, my point is that war started from a lie by our government, I am not saying what you're doing is wrong, you're a brave man for being in the Army helping people out and fighting for you're country.
motoruler 4 years ago
The war did not start from any lie.
He had WMD,and we long ago proved it.
And I don't care what anybody may say for political gain on either side of the aisle.
My personal knowledge proves different.
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
actually, he didn't have any WMDs...and our own government admitted that already.
avth76 3 years ago
Ironic.
You don't believe anything else they say, why should you take the government's word for it that a man who killed 400,000 people with chemical weapons, and who had thousands of chemical warheads in his coutnry when we invaded had no WMD?
But he did have. And we saw them.
And that is not all, as you will learn.
Oh yes, Saddam was every bit the threat Colin Powell said he was - and as much as I support him, I don't agree with the President in caving to political pressure on it.
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
Actually, no atomic weapons or means of creating same were found in Iraq. Saddam was a liar, so ignore what he said. Focus on evidence. No evidence of atomic weapons before hand. No evidence found in the wake of the invasion. Saddam was no threat to us or our interests, and we were engaged in another war at the time. Still are. Stupid move on many levels. As well as dishonest.
zahir13 2 years ago
"Planes can fly into buildings at ground level."
AH Yeah that's not my point, my point is the hole in the pentagon was level with the ground, the engines on thoughts jets hang down over 5 feet from the underneath of the jet, therefore they MUST have been huge ruts from the engines on the front lawn, yet the lawn was perfect.
motoruler 4 years ago
Your deduction thin, and based on premises which are false.
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
What should we do NOW?
Was Saddam not the greatest mass murderer in the history of the Middle East?
Do we not have people in Iraq killing civilians - children?
Is not democracy worthy for Iraqis?
WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
no he wasn't the greatest mass murderer. He did murder alot of people though (with the weapons WE gave him), but he was recruited and trained at the age of 19 by OUR CIA. I wish the CIA would stop setting up dictators and training Al Qaeda (which is arab for "the base").
yeah, before the US military got to Iraq, they had running water, electricity and 60% of females were in college. Look at the country now. The US military sure helped them.
avth76 4 years ago
He was.
But we sold him <3% of the weapons he possessed, and none chemical.
I'd say he was a perfect guy to work for us, and I'd say he was probably very useful - What are you arguing?
Do you suggest that we should not pay anyone anywhere to do anything for us?
You are naive.
We trained and helped Mujahedeen fight godless imperialistic Communism. I'd do the same thing today.
You're as materialistic as a Communist, apparently, but unwilling to do what it takes for the material.
LTCJeffWhite 3 years ago
that's not true...we sold him the mustard gas as well...and last time i checked...that's chemical.
i'm not communistic, and i think it's quite irresponsible of you to make a character judgement based on very little information. I would expect more from you, but i realize you're just a grunt. And i'm not naive.
And YES, i suggest that our government should STOP paying and creating assholes to gain world control. For god's sake...Al Queda was created by our government.
avth76 3 years ago
"Hang" Sorry for the typos it's getting late. Take care and God Bless.
motoruler 4 years ago
Take a good look at those jets the motors hand down ALLOT yet the hole is level with the ground, the video that was released shows an image of something hovering close to the ground. The hole is in deed almost at ground level yet no damage to the front lawn. What about the videos from the Shariton Hotel or the Citgo gas station across the street, the FBI was there in minutes to take them, why have they never been shown.
motoruler 4 years ago
If I thought I could stop it I would have a shit load of 911 truth videos about the twin towers and the pentagon, however when you look at the videos in my channel you wont see any of these videos because I know there is nothing we can do about it. It's in Gods hands however that doesn't change the fact that a passenger jet did not fly into the pentagon or the fact that thermite was used to take the world trade towers down. Look at the hole in the pentagon,its almost level with the ground.
motoruler 4 years ago
Put the videos up. I want to see them, and frankly doubt that what you claim is true.
Planes can fly into buildings at ground level.
Jet Fuel can burn hot enough to melt metal - easily - moreover, a few members being broken in a building so tall can cause catastrophic failure and collapse.
Where is you evidence for thermite?
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
ht tp : // you tube . com / watch ?v = oM yrFY 45 NN8
Another good video from a fellow Christian. Take into consideration I am a Christian Jeff I am not agents you in any way I just want you to see the truth about 911. Take care and God Bless.
motoruler 4 years ago
The truth is, God is on His throne and rules all things.
And all things work together for good to those that love God, to the called according to his purpose.
But if you think any of that makes our own government guilty of murdering its own citizens in the modern era - you have let your imagination and some silly theories run away with you.
The end is near.
Do you suspect you will stop it?
Be born again and work for God.
You cannot do more.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
"Do you suspect you will stop it?" No I don't think I could stop anything, these things are told about in the Bible and will come to pass so yeah I you're right there isn't shit I can do about it. That isn't going to stop me from learning about the evil that controls the world, that way I know were it's coming from and can possibly protect myself and my family better with that knowledge.
motoruler 4 years ago
No evil controls the world.
Romans 8:28 ...we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Do you deny that Christ reigns from heaven?
I'll tell you where evil is coming from - from the sin of unbelief, disobedience, and rebellion - from you own wicked heart.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
You think evil things about people you never met. Can yo not find anywhere in the Bible where that is sin? I certainly can.
These evil and acusing thoughts of yours, without names to name - secret organizations, etc- builds everything except hope, or chances for addressing the problems (part of the reason why secret organizations are so nefarious).
Just focus on the evil behaviors, and the one righteous standard - God's word.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
ht tp : // video . google . com / videop lay ?doc i d=- 49 59 11 08 38 22 30 46 399
Please watch this Video Jeff it explains about the secret societies and Jesus prophecies (it is not a anti Christ Video it is for Jesus)
motoruler 4 years ago
Two hours and sixteen minutes?
You have to be kidding.
Of course there is a conspiracy driven by Satan - the Bible tells the story clearly enough (and in a lot more succinct manner).
And yes, Masonry is a temple and a religion.
And population control is from the Devil.
And abortion is from Satan.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
Yes that's right Jeff the devil controls America, here is a video of President Bush admitting he's a skull and bones member, now take into consideration skull and bones is a Satanic cult. Bush is a FAKE Christian!
Ht tp :/ / w w w . yo u tube . c om/ watch ? v = nY -- 0 O MA q N q I
motoruler 4 years ago
Skull and bones is a satanic cult?
So are the Hasty Pudding awards and the Masonic Lodge.
You think that is a big deal? Washington was in the Masonic Lodge.
Perhaps you preferred Bill Clinton and John Kerry and their Playboy and Communist Party memberships?
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
I totally agree with tedhuntington, steal frame buildings don't FREE FALL and that fire did not burn hot enough to melt the steal, then there is building 7 you would have to be a fool not to see it was not a collapse, and then there is Larry Silverstien that admitted he "HAD TO PULL IT". You can also see the demo squibs as the world trade towers are falling, this is not due to pressure!
motoruler 4 years ago
You're a better architect than all the people who built the WTC, and investigated this thing. They are all in a giant conspiracy with Popular Mechanics, etc.
You just don't see how these things are put together, is all.
I've studied mechanical engineering, thermofluid dynamics, and physics.
You'll be surprised what counterintuitive things are possible when you add and multiply forces as happened on 9-11.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
ht tp :// youtube . com /watch ?v= 8uNbKJ ofv3 c&mode = related & search = 9/11 %20 molten % 20 metal
motoruler 4 years ago
NO time for it, sorry.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
You ever see JP4 burn, or look at the inner workings of a jet engine?
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
thanks for the comment, but there is no way fire or plane impact can melt steel, or else our BBQ grills and gas stoves would melt. What is McFly? Was that in a Michael J Fox movie?
tedhuntington 4 years ago
Yeah - Fox.
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
Ted - where did you get your engineering degree?
LTCJeffWhite 4 years ago
Clarkson University.
tedhuntington 4 years ago