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  • I Really Like The Video From Your GOOD Transparency Electric Vehicles

  • Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing GOOD Transparency Electric Vehicles

  • Hydrogen powered ICE cars are better...

  • Odd responses for this video once again.

  • going from overpriced petrol to overpriced electricity, great choice!!! Let's do this!!!

  • @leyuzzzz wind and solar are free!

  • Attention: Watts are ALREADY a measure of energy (Joules) per time in seconds, Joules per second = Watts. It is a nonsensical math and physics mistake to say "Watts per hour". Watt-hours are Watts times hours, which is Joules per second times 3600 seconds, which gives total Joules of energy expended. A Joule is the energy required to increase the velocity a kilogram of mass

    by a meter per second every second through a distance of a

    meter.

  • Electric cars are only as good as the 20 year old battery tech that powers it. Lets face it batteries have been around for over 200 years pretty much unchanged, had tens and tens if billions of $ of research and still they are two expensive, take to long to charge and don't hold enough power.

    The only advance in electric cars is that they look like cars now but batteries have failed to advance since the expensive and fragile lithium ion 20 years ago.

  • @mrdojob Battery technology has nearly tripled the amount of

    energy per volume in the last 30 years, and more than halved

    the weight, and the cost has fallen similarly. Don't just say

    things off the top of your head.

  • @rstevewarmorycom Then why does the Nissan LEAF battery pack cost $18000 if the cost has gone down so much? Why does it only last for 5 to 7 years and only have a 70 mile range and still takes all day to charge without wrecking the batteries? Cars like that could and have have been made a decade or so ago but didn't kick off for a reason mainly cos they didn't work. Electric motors in cars are great but the batteries are still shit even with all this research.

  • @mrdojob The short answer is that the Nissan Leaf manufacturer

    is a battery company. They want to make as much money as possible

    from the well-to-do early adopters of the unit so they can afford to

    scale up for mass-production when joe blow is ready to buy one for

    half the cost or less. Remember plasma TV's? Why do batteries

    take all day to charge? What do you want, something like gasoline

    that you just POUR in? Gas has spoiled you for sensible physical

    processes, now you think you DESERVE that!

  • @rstevewarmorycom Why do batteries take all day to charge? Cos they do. Gas is also brilliant and is what people SHOULD expect. Do you green people really expect the modern world to buy a car that can't even get some people to work and back? The reason why electric cars aint kicked off is cos they don't work.

  • @mrdojob No, electric cars aren't popular yet because people

    can still afford gas. As gas becomes more costly, electric

    becomes the only way to go. The time is approaching when

    not only will you not be able to afford living far from your

    work, but it may actually become illegal! Being able to live far

    from work is a very short historical blip that won't happen again

    till we perfect mass extraction of solar/wind/tidal/geothermal

    energy. Right now we have a boon we don't yet deserve.

  • @rstevewarmorycom lol i would lovee to see the day when Mr average has to spend £50.000 on transport for 5 years because he owns an electric car. You got such stupid views on the future.

  • @mrdojob I can't help it if you don't like the truth, want to

    cruise the strip for fun, and drive a 4 ton car everywhere.

    If you're willing to settle for the do-able, then it won't cost

    anywhere near that much. You're a spoiled blind little

    petrol-brat. Your kind won't make it through the next decade

    without throwing a hissy about what you can't get and making

    a complete ass of yourself, while the rest of us are having

    a nice time adapting and enjoying seeing you choke on your

    stupidity.

  • @rstevewarmorycom how much have you spent on your electric car? What job do you have and exactly how much do you earn every year? Your the type of people we need to put effort into silencing the opinions of.

  • @mrdojob 1) Electric motorbike and bicycle. About $3.5K.

    2) Enough to get by, by no means a fortune. 3)So you want to

    silence people like me. What will you do when the truth

    catches up to you and people like me have not been able to

    warn you in advance so that you can prepare? You forget,

    I'm merely the bearer of bad news, it will all happen even

    without me anyway. To silence people like me is to blind

    yourself. If you can't tell yourself the truth, then who else

    can tell you?

  • @rstevewarmorycom We all know oil will run out soon I'm not stupid. Do you know why nobody really buys electric cars? Cos they don't work. I would love an electric car really but I know that the the batteries are far from up to the job and will remain like that for years to come. Biofuels are a better option cos engines have been advancing far faster than electric which advances at a painfully slow rate. The 100mpg car will prob come along in 10 years which is twice as good as in 2005.

  • @mrdojob The problem with biofuels: If you do the math, and

    many have, like Amory Lovins of the very well respected Rocky

    Mountain Institute, then you will know that photosynthesis is only

    about 0.5% efficient at converting sunlight to available energy.

    People would like to think Mother Nature sure must be better at

    these sorts of things than we are, but it's simply not so. Modern

    photovoltaics are now headed for 30+% efficiency, which

    means it takes 70 times less land for solar vs biofuels.

  • @rstevewarmorycom They have the ability to run all the taxi's in london just off the chip pan crap from fast food shops. They also made use of wood gas to power almost every single home on the country not long ago and it can also power cars. Pretty much anything that grows can be used in cars.

    I would also like you to look at one of the top comments about the tesla s and still say that electric cars are useful.

  • @mrdojob Hint: Compare taxi's to number of people needing rides.

    "They also made use of wood gas to power almost every single

    home on the country not long ago" - where the hell was this

    supposed to be? Sounds like you invented a statistic. If it's

    Britain that would be ridiculous, they have very few trees left

    on the whole island, cutting trees without govt permission is

    a crime! Listen: My math includes the best biofuel crops.

    This has been worked out by better heads than ours, YOU try it.

  • @mrdojob And remember to show your work! ;->

    

  • @mrdojob Add to that the mathematics of land vs food in a world

    just this week topping 7 Billion people, with only about 100 Million

    square miles of arable land on the planet, coming out to about 70

    people per 640 acres (1 sq mile), or 9 acres per person, and you

    CANNOT grow enough biofuel for even HALF of us to drive around

    like you wish to even if we DON'T EAT!

  • @mrdojob And that's true even IF we have NO rain forests or wild

    lands! it wouldn't work even if we tore up all the highways and planted

    biofuel crops on that land TOO! Solar and wind electricity gives us

    50 times as much for the available land area we can afford to

    devote to it and still have a planet we want to live on. Buddy, solar

    electric cars had BETTER work, or You're SCREWED!

  • @mrdojob In a world with mass extraction of renewable sources

    of energy, batteries can be swapped out by automated equipment

    in less time than it takes to fill your tank. Electric cars work fine,

    we just haven't done the work on our sources and that infrastructure

    so that we deserve them, and while morons like you jabber and

    whine and bargain with your fate, the gasoline is going away.

  • Good Start for the uneducated. One FLAW... You would be HARD PRESSED to pull 2500 watts out of your 120V outlet. Like IN the Cartoon. That would be just over 20 AMPS of current and the BREAKER would POP. You could easily do that or double out of the equivalent of an Electric Dryer outlet circuit however.

    SSL - Seattle EV Association

    the LARGEST EAA Chapter nation wide.

  • @stevenslough The Leaf has either 120VAC single phase

    or 240VAC twin phase charging inputs.

  • Is an electric car really green? What happens to these batteries when they can no longer be recharged? What kind of heavy metals are in those batteries? GOOD's YouTube channel also has a vid on coal. It says that coal produces 48% of our electricity. That means your electric car is really a coal-powered car. It also talks about the cost of a 100 mile trip - but what is the range of most electric cars? CAN they go 100 miles? 

  • @CornerTalker It's 48% coal power, and that's assuming you're in America. Other nations have very different energy mixes.

  • @MethanolCH3OH But it's far less carbon than by gasoline.

    In fact 5 TIMES less. Mass production of power is much more

    efficient than the internal combustion engine.Electric motors

    converting electricity into motion can have efficiencies as high

    as 90%. Why is this so? The auto engine is both poorly designed

    to be cheap and runs at a huge range of changing loads and rpm,

    whereas a diesel or natural gas power plant engine runs at constant

    optimal rpm and load.

  • @CornerTalker

    There are no "Heavy Metals" in the present generation of Lithium Batteries. Lithium is the 3rd lightest element on the periodic chart.

    Even "Coal Powered" EV's have advantages .

    Easier to scrub n clean the technology of a coal plant, than go round trying to tune up

    Fix Up a million aging Cars. ( which just get worse as they age...)

    8 or 10 years from now Batteries will be cheaper and even better. The Tired Lithium Batteries can be

    used in many OFF GRID Power Aps.

  • @toyotaprius79 the reason why the Tesla failed on Top Gear was because it was a badly made (read "American") car. It had nothing to do with the fact that the car was electric. Now stop criticising top gear and electric cars.

  • That was awesome...simple and to the point..tnx for great upload

  • electric cars are coming way too late. each tyre requires 6 gallons of oil to produce and the oil required for lithium extraction to make car batteries is a huge waste... let alone repairs and maintenance. stop dreaming people... we still need more alternatives, the electric car is still oil dependent.

  • 1:45 you forgot to mention the loss in efficiency getting the electricity to you house. 15% lost at typical nuclear power plant. 30% loss over power lines. 1% loss or more per hour the vehicle sits idle , and about half the efficiency powering the accessories in the car such as the AC and power steering with electricity vs mechanically.

  • @peptopro17 Now compare it fairly to petroleum drilling, gasoline

    refining and transport to your gas station. After that the gasoline

    conversion to motion is around 7%. Electricity is 3 to 4 times better,

    looked at fairly.

  • so like....when is this a GO? lol

  • Well at least you guys actually counted where the electricity comes from when figuring the emissions. However you don't consider the environmental impact of manufacturing the batteries. Nor do you figure the cost of replacing those batteries after a couple of years. Bad GOOD.

    I also doubt your 80% efficiency rating for the electric car. Those motors and batteries convert a LOT of energy to heat.

  • @frogsoda these batteries have a lifespan of about 7 years/100000 mi (160000 km) though 60% they can be recycled and they expect to achieve 90% recycling. still, I believe we can do better. Hovercrafts eliminate the need for tyres which would be another great thing. The heat you're talking about can also be put to use to re-charge the batteries with the insertion of peltiers.

  • @frogsoda You don't know, those questions are over used. A charged Leaf will result of 90grams of CO2 per km if only on coal. LITHIUM batteries are mainly recycled in production, now distilation plants beside seas and lagoons extract litium since they are 1% lithiun. (3% for lagoons). Replacing the batteries will come in the next 8-15 years, by then batteries will be really cheap and economical. Making and using electric motors are terribly efficient and the heat loss is used for heating, duhh.

  • @frogsoda Don't forget now, the production for petrol shouldn't be bothered to be compared to electric vehicles. Don't bother rantig if you don't know the TRUE story. Dirlling the oil, fighting wars for it, transporting it, taking the product (petrol) from the crude oil through fractioning which uses vasts amounts of electricity, pumping, storing, ect and transporting to the petrol station will result in <500g of CO2 per km. That's before you fill up!

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  • theres no eletric cars in brazil =(

  • Facts... Ma' Nigger...

  • your friend is totally gonna beat u up over $3 because u FULLY charged ur car at their house LOL no....

  • Who killed the electric car? ;;)

  • @0Blue0Sparkle Who had an original thought?

  • Gute erklärt :)

  • 6 people are Republicans

  • @Legboy1129 And dropping all the time.

  • cut the shit and lets go HYDROGEN!

  • @ad1785

    But how are you going to seperate the Hydrogen from other compounds (such as water and air)?

    You're going to use power, right?

    So, how are you going to make the power to seperate the Hydrogen from all the other compounds?

    Using fossil fuels?

  • @ad1785 Hydrogen is three times more wasteful as electric.

  • People need to embrace this new technology. Yeah, it's not the most 'convenient' now, because getting a car that runs on gas is cheaper, but at what point are we going to stop wasting our resources and being careless? Even if it's not 100% Environmentally friendly, it's a start, and that's what matters...

  • @aleopad2004 Its not even that they aren't convenient, they aren't capable of many things that i need a car to do. For example i have to drive to a city for school, its 3.5 hours away but there is no electric car capable of making that distance let alone getting back home. Since the infrastructure and geography doesn't allow for electric vehicles, they wond become popular until they are capable of making long distance trips (at least 4-500 km).

  • @jamesmcneil69 Battery swapping by automated equipment.

    Also, have you considered a bus/train/maglev? Vote for energy

    decency, vote mass transit.

  • Internal Combustion engines are auctually 40-50% efficient.

  • @CeaserNoah

    less than that: 15-30%

  • @CeaserNoah No. Try 7% or LESS! Usually a lot less.

  • Litium ion batteries are not recyclable at all, they get thrown into a landfill, and based on the fact that 90% of our electricity is non-renewable, you are putting just as much CO2 into the Atmosphere.

  • @CeaserNoah Nonsense, Li is sufficiently hard to find to

    justify reprocessing and it's not difficult either. And the rest

    of it is non-toxic.

  • @rstevewarmorycom It is much cheaper to produce another battery, the traditional method of recollection involves using a smelter to melt out the components. The problem is lithium doesn't react well to elements that it gets burned with. You would ruin any facility that you would try to collect it in, and to produce another system which would cost hundreds of millions to build and maintain requires more capital investment than just producing new units.

  • @CeaserNoah I've had a battery chemist explain how simple it is

    to recycle lithium. I was surprised.Those batteries are so simple

    and tolerant in their manufacture that they can be made by mere

    HOBBYISTS!

  • Yet again just more product infomercials... get it together GOOD

  • That sounds great, but what would be the the fail safe for issues such as the emitting a massive solar flare on earth? I think we should first target this as well as other pressing issues that could pretty much reverse life as we know it before converting our world into a energy driven landscape.

  • they should take an idea from bummper cars and electric trains, why not just lay a wire on the road and get power right from the road itself, it works for trains and slot cars?

  • @paisis123 Except the difference is you want to maneuver with a car, switch lanes and make turns at will rather than fallow a predetermined path. Besides that if one car breaks down you'd have huge traffic jams because the line is blocked.

  • LOL

    ITS STILL MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A CAR!

    incorporate the price of adding a new battery

    or hte initial price of the car

    ITS STILL MORE EXPENSIVE!

    I can get a car and pay 2-5k for it and still save more than an electric car

  • @finnsia Not for long...

  • There is no "Watts per hour"...

  • $10 to fill a car???

    And we're paying at least $50-60 Australian for a tank. Also the 30% reduction in emissions wouldn't justify the damage from manufacturing the batteries, and then again as they need to be replaced. However, cars like that new turbine-generator electric Jag concept car would be awesome. It's electric, and powerful, and uses very little fuel.

  • @Freshbott2 10 dollars we not to fill a car, but to replace about 100 miles. That is about 5 gallions, little less. We pay (cali) 3 dollars a gallion. So 10 bucks is about 3 gallions, at 30 mph that is about 90 miles on 10 bucks. We also run into problems that things like oil in the tires are still being used. Really, we need to figure out a mag rail system that works for everyone, or maybe a way to create hybrid mag rail / self powered. You hit the "free ways" of mag rails, then drive.

  • @Freshbott2 it's 10$ for 100 km of travel. for a full tank it's about 50-60 here (canada) too.

  • @jkjkjij22 Oh right haha.

  • I love how the animations explain the complexity that surrounds electric in an understandable way. Great job! Can't wait to drive such a cleaner, smooth and silent vehicle myself. Maybe an electric motorcycle first, they might be more affordable in the near future.

  • @heyyyynoowww Don't need huge heavy electric motorcycles.

    That's a paradigm that will shift now. A slightly more sturdy

    electric bicycle styled like a motorcycle that weighs about

    100 lbs, travels 55 mph and gets 100 miles per 4 hour charge

    would be sufficient, and that's do-able with the solar we have

    now quite cheaply, around $3K for solar panels and bike,

    mass manufactured.

  • Did not need the voice over

  • solar panels on roof of house = free recharges at home?

  • @K4osLegiNd YEAH!

    ALL YOU NEED IS SOLAR PANELS, WIND TURBINES (yes there are wind home wind turbines you can buy), GEOTHERMAL ENERGY (if you have it installed), THERE IS A LOT! AND THEN IT WILL BE FREE TO DRIVE YOUR CAR

  • @K4osLegiNd Yup

  • Do electric vehicles have the same effects just as street lights? for example create more light pollution?

  • @unituldacycle dude, no way did you ask that, seriously?

  • umm no its a car not a lamp...

  • Nice video!

  • Nobody wants to charge all day and night when they can spend 1 minute or less at a petrol bowser.

    Hydrogen is next, not full electric.

  • @JuggaloOzi

    Hydrogen is extremely explosive, it will never become mainstream because it's just not safe.

  • @RandomNameName ... isn't gasoline explosive? I'm not a chemical engineer but I'm sure they could dilute it to a point where it has the same potency.

    I kinda liked the algae bio fuel idea but its unfortunate that we're not seeing more of that.

  • @RandomNameName Hydrogen not safe? Really? How many hydrogen cars have exploded? Petrol is flammable and explosive too you know, never been a problem.

    That argument has no real basis in reality. Which oil company do you work for?

  • @JuggaloOzi Petrol is flammable and yes explosive in specific conditions. Hydrogen is very explosive, it is the main argument against hydrogen cars, if there was a crash then being in a hydrogen car is much less safe than being in a petrol one.

    Why do you think they stopped using hydrogen blimps? Its just too unsafe.

  • @JuggaloOzi it still takes a shit amount of energy to produce hydrogen for the car to use

    that energy can be created from coal or gas

    SO WHAT OIL COMPANY DO YOU WORK FOR?!

  • @RandomNameName Untrue, high powered rifle

    fired at gasoline canister, BOOOMB, at a hydrogen

    tank, slow invisible leak or a small tongue of nearly

    invisible flame. Hindenburg was a pyrotechnic due to

    its skin paint.

  • @JuggaloOzi That's only if you drain the battery completely. More than likely you'd only drive less than fifty miles a day, which would take maybe 30 minuets to an hour I'm guessing to recharge, maybe less.

  • Sorry guys, the comment about wind blowing more at night is just wrong!

    Also you lose potential input from solar.

  • Positive news! Yay!

  • What about batteries? Not a word about it?

  • @systemicknowledge

    lead and acid , Miam !

    and they only last 2-5years.

    changing them cost 2000$

    NICE !

  • @systemicknowledge I have an electric car...

    the batteries are fine... do you have any specific questions?

  • they forget to mention the efficiency loss in the charging of the batteries and the distribution of the electricity

  • wow. so much for "Transparency".

    1. making an electric car (or any new one) causes more damage to environment than me running my old petrol car for another 20 years. + all the acid from batteries that get in to the nature in case of a crash.

    2. electric cars DO NOT WORK in the real world. make a battery that holds for 700miles as some petrol cars do with 1 tank and still is able to do 150mph and mby then ill think of getting one.

    i won't buy a car that with recharging does 200miles in 4 days!

  • @rudolfskampe just think a bit about what you just said.

  • @rudolfskampe

    1. Blowing it out your ass with a total lack of evidence or math.

    2. You won't be able to afford that very shortly, THEN what will

    you do? Hmmm?

    3. Live closer to work - adapt or die!

  • That's bulshit. Fully electric cars are still out of the market. That's because electric cars are not efficient compared to the petrol ones. With a full tank of a petrol car you can run about 300-500 miles in average, with an electric one you can do 40-100 and then you have to charge for 8-12hours where as with a petrol one you can refil the tank in just a few minutes. If you where to use an electric car, you better have a few of them.

  • @ThePeoplesGuru not true, search tesla model s, saw one today.

  • @melrobRTF

    top gear tested the tesla s, they had two of them and they juiced them both in less then 30 minutes.

  • @ThePeoplesGuru well, what would you expect from topgear.

  • @ThePeoplesGuru I never saw the episode, do u have a link?

  • @ThePeoplesGuru

    Wrong, they got into trouble with misleading information with the Tesla Roadster (250+ mile range), not model S (300+ mile range). They never ran down the batteries, the BBC's excuse was they wanted to "simulate" what would happen if it ran out of power, which is idiotic because it's the same as when an ICE car rans out of fuel; It stops moving.

    If you would actually research properly you would know the information you gave is completely incorrect.

  • @ThePeoplesGuru Top Gear didn't do anything! They made the Tesla ROADSTER look like hopless crap by pushing it off the track and saying that it will charge in 16hrs even though in England it takes 8-10hrs. They never mentioned about the fast chargings, they never will. Still the fact of charging a Tesla in less than 30 minutes is here and practical.

  • This really made me want a EV

    Thanks GOOD :D

  • There is still a crucial mistake. Even if there is the technology that requires a creditcard to recharge, it will still go through the electricity of the house. Simply put, there's a system that recognizes which house and appartment uses how much power.

    Having creditcard system involved into the already existing system, it would only adept to a "cracked system" that shows minimal energy usage. (false numbers!) some time in the future. :P

  • just to make it cheaper...

  • @LyricsIn Easier said than done.

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