You know somebody is a liar when they constantly plop up their "links", and at the same time murder Lamas, then repeatedly associate dead ones with their name. HA! GOTCHA!
i heard that the young zong rinpoche is quite a debate master. He is currently leading prayers in gaden monastery as Lati RInpoche has gone into clear light. May Lati Rinpoche's incarnation swiftly return. Lati Rinpoche use his human body fully to benefit others...till such an old age. we have been very fortunate to have this bodhisattva in our midst...
from what i heard, Lati Rinpoche has gone into clear light and Zong Rinpoche is leading the prayers for him. May Lati Rinpoche's incarnation swiftly return.
NKT/WSS made a (shabby) cottage industry of "Dissing the Dalai for Dollars."
That's the NKT/WSS's entire persona, worldwide. It's in fact the only thing they're known for to the general public--because that's what they WANTED to be known for (minus of course the Dollars part).
We realize you receive a new directive to suddenly flood the internet with pro-Dalai wrapping, which underneath, still contains the same old hate.
DS is completely represented by WSS. No one talked about DS in the west until WSS did.
NKT is WSS, from conception through today.
This new attempt to portray NKT as suddenly Dalai Lama-friendly comes too late, unfortunately.
If NKT has had a change of policy and heart, it will have to spend as many years (or more) counteracting its original propaganda as it did generating it.
Guys you can see pictures of the illustrious Kyabje Zong Rinpoche with Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche and GKG at dorjeshugden (dot) com !!! Download, print and it's free thanks to the people who has created this sacred space!
There is also an interesting post and discussion of Zong Rinpoche on the forum
This is one of the most resourceful website for anything to do with Dorje Shugden!!!
H.H Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's incarnation is BACK!!! He is in Gaden now studying for his degree and is said to be an excellent debater just like in his previous life. Apparently when monks see this great master debater coming, they all flee! He is also known to be quite wrathful again like his previous.
H.H Zong Rinpoche is no doubt a high Lama and he practices Dorje Shugden very firmly. So then how come he is back if Dorje Shugden practices was demonic?
A true tantric master, one who conquered his mind in lifetime after lifetime of controlled rebirths. Zong Rinpoche's voice resonates through every atom of my body. I am so thankful and happy that the world had the chance to receive the blessings of such a holy being, who was a pure monk. According to posts on dorjeshugden{DOT}com, the current Zong Rinpoche is already showing similarities to his previous incarnation, including possessing an amazingly sharp intellect & being an incredible debater.
I find it so sad when I see how this cross-fertilisation of Eastern spiritual knowledge with our Western understanding of material matters, has produced this child of such promise, (the NKT),... only to see that child now grown into adulthood as a slick, slippery-tongued used car sales man whose golden dream is to have a chain of his used car lots in every major city of the world.
I come back here again and again just to hear this great master (see dorjeshugden (dot) com great masters section) performing ds prayers, he is totally mesmerizing.
Sorry - that msg was directed at pathseeker - i think i was so stunned that i forgot to follow protocol. pls do excuse me. Though of course, anyone is invited to reply. tx
I agree with nostra120. If you live in the Tibetan community, you will know that Tibetan high lamas are very good with spirit/supernatural beings and there's no way ALL OF TIBET'S TRADITION with so many great master cannot get rid or stop one evil spirit for the sake of Dalai Lama's long live & well being.
yup i got a lot of info from dorje shugden (dot) com. Did you know since the time of 5th Dalai Lama until now DS hasn't caused any trouble, shortened anyones life, and still comes to us through an oracle. Even high lamas cannot perform pujas to kill or bind him. Its not because the Lamas are not powerful enough its because DS doesn't have the karma for this result, and hence is not an evil spirit. Think about it carefully.
@nostra120 It's true nostra. How can an evil spirit shorten His Holiness the Dalai Lama's life? His Holiness is believed to be an emanation of Avalokiteshvara.
Even if he's not, he's a monk who holds his vows well, so well that people shed tears due as they felt his compassion in his presence. So he cannot be harm by spirit per se.
It should be made clear that Shugen worship itself violates religious freedom, because Shugden does not allow followers to practice other schools than the "pure Gelug school". Those who practice other schools "mix the pure doctrine" and will be killed for that "crime" by the deity Dorje Shugden, or they will at least be punished by a terrible sickness and finally die a horrible death.
You have a point...the previous Zong Rinpoche was such a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden, but his reincarnation is back and recognised by the Dalai Lama. If Dorje Shugden's practice was so bad, shortened people's lifespans, created a lot of bad karma for the practitioner, how on earth did Zong Rinpoche manage to come back and not be reborn in the hottest of hot hells?
1) either Zong Rinpoche is attained therefore the practice doesn't harm him (in that case, being attained, why would he practise spirit worship? Surely he would have the attainments/omniscience to know NOT to practise it) OR
2) Dorje Shugden's practice doesn't actually harm anyone, or send them to the three lower realms
I second you on this one mate. One day soon the ban will lift, or fade either way, DS practice will come out into mainstream acceptance. Just wait and see. I'm soo excited, the future looks blazing!
come on really how can the ban only start in this incarnation of HHDL, then what of the other incarnations before these ones who practiced DS and still they are not affected, still they are reincarnating. This so called evil spirit has only decided now to retaliate, I don't think so. Thats because DS is not an evil spirit.
I believe that high lamas like Zong Rinpoche (whose reincarnation is now back AGAIN) cannot be wrong.
Zong Rinpoche is the student of Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, the tutor of Dalai Lama.
Also, Zong Rinpoche is the teacher of Lama Yeshe (FPMT), and one of the teachers of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. We can see how FPMT & NKT grow in the world due to the great teachings that's logical and appeal to the modern and educated people.
At least the 5th Dalai Lama regretted his actions and built the first temple to Dorje Shugden, called Trode Kangsar and he even hand crafted a statue of Dorje Shugden which is still around today. Anyway you can read more at dorjeshugden . com.
During the 5th Dalai Lamas time I know that they tried to destroy Dorje Shugden by doing fire pujas and Hayagriva rituals but everything failed. In fact the next day, Dorje Shugden took trance and advised his practitioners never to criticize the Dalai Lama. Intriguing. If that is not an enlightened mind expressing compassion, I dont know what is.
@wisdombeing A Hayagriva puja group of Sera-Je monastery receives a special commission to perform 21 days of exorcism through the puja of Tamdim Yangsang against Dorje Shugden in 1996and yet up till today Shugden is still alive.
I don't think with such great lamas and a powerful deity like Hayagriva cannot destroy a mere "evil spirit". It doesn't make sense. Unless he's not a spirit, but an emanation that is in the form of a spirit.
is Dorje Shugden emanating in the form of a spirit? Pardon my ignorance - i didn't think he was a spirit. But you made me think - then what is he! and i went back to dorjeshugden . com website to try to find out but i just got that he is a 'terrifier' and he wears monks robes. Ummm ok, i'm stumped. Any info to share, anyone? tx
This video is so amazing. I have heard so much about this holy Lama and met people who had the good karma to meet his previous incarnation. Beautiful chanting. Definitely high lamas like HH Zong Rinpoche and HH Trijang Rinpoche and most recently, HH Gaden Trisur cannot be worshipping an evil spirit. If Dorje Shugden was an evil spirit, these High Masters would have bound him by oath like they did Pehar.
Thank you for putting up this beautiful video of the illustrious Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who is truly a living Buddha. Known to be an emanation of Heruka himself. If these highly attained Lamas practices Dorje Shugden then I'm sure Dorje Shugden is not an evil spirit. What evil spirit makes Dharma & monasteries grow? And why these great Lamas return back to teach if they practice something defiled/causes harm to ppl n Buddhism? Must think deeper and not mix it up with politics. dorjeshugden(DOT)com
Oh venerable Losang Dorjechang essence of all 3 lineages in one,
And all the other holy beings in the lineage is the father & sons,
Out of compassion please bless myself this place & all the offerings,
As well as all worlds & their beings as the play of your exalted wisdom.
This shows clearly that Geshe Kelsang is passing on the practices of lamas who existed before he was a born. Dulzin is KING of the Dharma..only a person who wants his throne dethrones
The time has come to judge the truth in accord with the law of causality! The time has come to clear the innocent of accusations! The time has come to protect the humble who are without a protector The time has come to nurture Dharma practitioners like your children!
How wonderful to see holy Zong Rinpoche chanting these Kangso prayers! May it be a cause for Dorje Shugden's practice to increase like a waxing moon for the benefit of all beings.
O mighty Gyalchen and your retinue, please perform the swift and incisive four actions to destroy all obstacles and gather good conditions for the growth of Je Tsongkhapa's doctrine.
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You know somebody is a liar when they constantly plop up their "links", and at the same time murder Lamas, then repeatedly associate dead ones with their name. HA! GOTCHA!
jbearden 1 month ago
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jbearden 1 month ago
Download the Trijang Bio - Illusory Play it is a really great read
get it from dorje shugden website, dorjeshugden (dot) com
elibuchen 1 year ago
Es realmente encantador escuchar su fuerte voz. Me emociona y me inspira. Muchas gracis por poner este video.
migatoyyo 1 year ago
i heard that the young zong rinpoche is quite a debate master. He is currently leading prayers in gaden monastery as Lati RInpoche has gone into clear light. May Lati Rinpoche's incarnation swiftly return. Lati Rinpoche use his human body fully to benefit others...till such an old age. we have been very fortunate to have this bodhisattva in our midst...
TheDharmaKnight 1 year ago
from what i heard, Lati Rinpoche has gone into clear light and Zong Rinpoche is leading the prayers for him. May Lati Rinpoche's incarnation swiftly return.
TheDharmaKnight 1 year ago
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DragonChunder,
Don't even try.
NKT/WSS made a (shabby) cottage industry of "Dissing the Dalai for Dollars."
That's the NKT/WSS's entire persona, worldwide. It's in fact the only thing they're known for to the general public--because that's what they WANTED to be known for (minus of course the Dollars part).
We realize you receive a new directive to suddenly flood the internet with pro-Dalai wrapping, which underneath, still contains the same old hate.
Again, don't try. Or try harder.
vinayahoIder 1 year ago
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DS is completely represented by WSS. No one talked about DS in the west until WSS did.
NKT is WSS, from conception through today.
This new attempt to portray NKT as suddenly Dalai Lama-friendly comes too late, unfortunately.
If NKT has had a change of policy and heart, it will have to spend as many years (or more) counteracting its original propaganda as it did generating it.
Ieedhi 2 years ago
Guys you can see pictures of the illustrious Kyabje Zong Rinpoche with Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche and GKG at dorjeshugden (dot) com !!! Download, print and it's free thanks to the people who has created this sacred space!
There is also an interesting post and discussion of Zong Rinpoche on the forum
This is one of the most resourceful website for anything to do with Dorje Shugden!!!
dragonthunder2010 2 years ago
H.H Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's incarnation is BACK!!! He is in Gaden now studying for his degree and is said to be an excellent debater just like in his previous life. Apparently when monks see this great master debater coming, they all flee! He is also known to be quite wrathful again like his previous.
H.H Zong Rinpoche is no doubt a high Lama and he practices Dorje Shugden very firmly. So then how come he is back if Dorje Shugden practices was demonic?
dragonthunder2010 2 years ago
A true tantric master, one who conquered his mind in lifetime after lifetime of controlled rebirths. Zong Rinpoche's voice resonates through every atom of my body. I am so thankful and happy that the world had the chance to receive the blessings of such a holy being, who was a pure monk. According to posts on dorjeshugden{DOT}com, the current Zong Rinpoche is already showing similarities to his previous incarnation, including possessing an amazingly sharp intellect & being an incredible debater.
DharmaDefender 2 years ago
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I find it so sad when I see how this cross-fertilisation of Eastern spiritual knowledge with our Western understanding of material matters, has produced this child of such promise, (the NKT),... only to see that child now grown into adulthood as a slick, slippery-tongued used car sales man whose golden dream is to have a chain of his used car lots in every major city of the world.
thepurpIeaster 2 years ago
I come back here again and again just to hear this great master (see dorjeshugden (dot) com great masters section) performing ds prayers, he is totally mesmerizing.
nostra120 2 years ago
I, however, am having a schizophrenic moment.
I can't remember whom i work for.
thepurpIeaster 2 years ago
Sorry - that msg was directed at pathseeker - i think i was so stunned that i forgot to follow protocol. pls do excuse me. Though of course, anyone is invited to reply. tx
wisdombeing 2 years ago
@wisdombeing
I agree with nostra120. If you live in the Tibetan community, you will know that Tibetan high lamas are very good with spirit/supernatural beings and there's no way ALL OF TIBET'S TRADITION with so many great master cannot get rid or stop one evil spirit for the sake of Dalai Lama's long live & well being.
pathseeker9 2 years ago
lmfao of course you agree with nostra, you are the same person.
thepurpIeaster 2 years ago
yup i got a lot of info from dorje shugden (dot) com. Did you know since the time of 5th Dalai Lama until now DS hasn't caused any trouble, shortened anyones life, and still comes to us through an oracle. Even high lamas cannot perform pujas to kill or bind him. Its not because the Lamas are not powerful enough its because DS doesn't have the karma for this result, and hence is not an evil spirit. Think about it carefully.
nostra120 2 years ago
@nostra120 It's true nostra. How can an evil spirit shorten His Holiness the Dalai Lama's life? His Holiness is believed to be an emanation of Avalokiteshvara.
Even if he's not, he's a monk who holds his vows well, so well that people shed tears due as they felt his compassion in his presence. So he cannot be harm by spirit per se.
pathseeker9 2 years ago
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It should be made clear that Shugen worship itself violates religious freedom, because Shugden does not allow followers to practice other schools than the "pure Gelug school". Those who practice other schools "mix the pure doctrine" and will be killed for that "crime" by the deity Dorje Shugden, or they will at least be punished by a terrible sickness and finally die a horrible death.
thepurpIeaster 2 years ago
strength in vows. vows can protect because of the object or the subject?
nostra120 2 years ago
I am 5mao.
thepurpIeaster 2 years ago
You have a point...the previous Zong Rinpoche was such a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden, but his reincarnation is back and recognised by the Dalai Lama. If Dorje Shugden's practice was so bad, shortened people's lifespans, created a lot of bad karma for the practitioner, how on earth did Zong Rinpoche manage to come back and not be reborn in the hottest of hot hells?
DharmaDefender 2 years ago
It's only one of two things:
1) either Zong Rinpoche is attained therefore the practice doesn't harm him (in that case, being attained, why would he practise spirit worship? Surely he would have the attainments/omniscience to know NOT to practise it) OR
2) Dorje Shugden's practice doesn't actually harm anyone, or send them to the three lower realms
DharmaDefender 2 years ago
I second you on this one mate. One day soon the ban will lift, or fade either way, DS practice will come out into mainstream acceptance. Just wait and see. I'm soo excited, the future looks blazing!
ImAnonoMouse 2 years ago
come on really how can the ban only start in this incarnation of HHDL, then what of the other incarnations before these ones who practiced DS and still they are not affected, still they are reincarnating. This so called evil spirit has only decided now to retaliate, I don't think so. Thats because DS is not an evil spirit.
nostra120 2 years ago
I believe that high lamas like Zong Rinpoche (whose reincarnation is now back AGAIN) cannot be wrong.
Zong Rinpoche is the student of Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, the tutor of Dalai Lama.
Also, Zong Rinpoche is the teacher of Lama Yeshe (FPMT), and one of the teachers of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. We can see how FPMT & NKT grow in the world due to the great teachings that's logical and appeal to the modern and educated people.
pathseeker9 2 years ago
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Beautiful. Read this moving account about HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche here tinyurl [.] com [/] yad99tz
vinayaholder 2 years ago
@vinayaholder Thank you for this link. I love reading about Zong Rinpoche, he;s such a great master.
pathseeker9 2 years ago
At least the 5th Dalai Lama regretted his actions and built the first temple to Dorje Shugden, called Trode Kangsar and he even hand crafted a statue of Dorje Shugden which is still around today. Anyway you can read more at dorjeshugden . com.
wisdombeing 2 years ago
During the 5th Dalai Lamas time I know that they tried to destroy Dorje Shugden by doing fire pujas and Hayagriva rituals but everything failed. In fact the next day, Dorje Shugden took trance and advised his practitioners never to criticize the Dalai Lama. Intriguing. If that is not an enlightened mind expressing compassion, I dont know what is.
wisdombeing 2 years ago
@wisdombeing A Hayagriva puja group of Sera-Je monastery receives a special commission to perform 21 days of exorcism through the puja of Tamdim Yangsang against Dorje Shugden in 1996and yet up till today Shugden is still alive.
I don't think with such great lamas and a powerful deity like Hayagriva cannot destroy a mere "evil spirit". It doesn't make sense. Unless he's not a spirit, but an emanation that is in the form of a spirit.
pathseeker9 2 years ago
is Dorje Shugden emanating in the form of a spirit? Pardon my ignorance - i didn't think he was a spirit. But you made me think - then what is he! and i went back to dorjeshugden . com website to try to find out but i just got that he is a 'terrifier' and he wears monks robes. Ummm ok, i'm stumped. Any info to share, anyone? tx
wisdombeing 2 years ago
This video is so amazing. I have heard so much about this holy Lama and met people who had the good karma to meet his previous incarnation. Beautiful chanting. Definitely high lamas like HH Zong Rinpoche and HH Trijang Rinpoche and most recently, HH Gaden Trisur cannot be worshipping an evil spirit. If Dorje Shugden was an evil spirit, these High Masters would have bound him by oath like they did Pehar.
wisdombeing 2 years ago
Thank you for putting up this beautiful video of the illustrious Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who is truly a living Buddha. Known to be an emanation of Heruka himself. If these highly attained Lamas practices Dorje Shugden then I'm sure Dorje Shugden is not an evil spirit. What evil spirit makes Dharma & monasteries grow? And why these great Lamas return back to teach if they practice something defiled/causes harm to ppl n Buddhism? Must think deeper and not mix it up with politics. dorjeshugden(DOT)com
thepurpleaster 2 years ago
Hi Very happy to see this.Thank you very much for the video
thup101 2 years ago
of course you sing the same prayers .. what did u expect ??
dulwadzinpa 2 years ago 2
we sing the same prayer in ENGLAND
Oh venerable Losang Dorjechang essence of all 3 lineages in one,
And all the other holy beings in the lineage is the father & sons,
Out of compassion please bless myself this place & all the offerings,
As well as all worlds & their beings as the play of your exalted wisdom.
This shows clearly that Geshe Kelsang is passing on the practices of lamas who existed before he was a born. Dulzin is KING of the Dharma..only a person who wants his throne dethrones
eternalricemuncher 2 years ago
The time has come to judge the truth in accord with the law of causality! The time has come to clear the innocent of accusations! The time has come to protect the humble who are without a protector The time has come to nurture Dharma practitioners like your children!
arishugdenpa 2 years ago
THANKS! italyciampatogme
italyciampatogme 2 years ago
How wonderful to see holy Zong Rinpoche chanting these Kangso prayers! May it be a cause for Dorje Shugden's practice to increase like a waxing moon for the benefit of all beings.
O mighty Gyalchen and your retinue, please perform the swift and incisive four actions to destroy all obstacles and gather good conditions for the growth of Je Tsongkhapa's doctrine.
Lineageholder 2 years ago 4
@Lineageholder May it be Dorje Shudgen this, may it be Dorje Shudgen that... here's the link 50 times.... hahaha... yeah, riiiiiight...
jbearden 1 month ago