SiiS6 - Singles Bracket: Judo (Sheik) vs. Logic (Olimar)

[zshizni]

Damn its messed up that he lost and sometimes I even hit the pause button accidentally when using the b button to the c stick.

[jfp521]

bs even if he hadnt paused logic was in ending animation forr the uair he was getting hit regaurdless

[jrogerboy27]

If they ever make another Brawl combo video...ADD THAT LAST KILL THAT JUDO MADE before the rematch

[KradenEPC]

Judo was one of my favorite players even before this happened, and even though it sucks that he lost, at least this set gave him some much-deserved publicity. People gotta know about this sick ass Sheik.

[4xzx4]

Lesson learned: do not EVER paus, regardless!! =/

[3daysgracefanatic]

judo deserved the win

[willowdalenativez287]

the brawl community is fucking retarded

all of you who say judo lost.. are retarded

logic was CLEARLY getting hit by that upsmash regardless of the pause.. you study this game yet you cant even make that simple conclusion?

for shame, he won fair and square.. hitlag anyone smh

[XLordSundayX]

@willowdalenativez287

Logic could've SDI'd into the Up Smash's weak hit, actually.

[jacoblong9]

Question: how did they change the backgrounds on the stages?

[SmogoTheDuck]

@jacoblong9 Texture hacks, you can easily find them on places like Brawl Vault, and how to put it on is shown on youtube.

[pappleparker]

15:53

[meldon100]

my friend code is 0132487291965. im free to battle today

[CSold2]

Really the situation is the same as if Lain pauses when he throws you into u-smash. Nobody would stand for someone doing this to Lain, although they would be correct.

The rematch is an entirely different match and I don't respect Logic saving face for doing that. He either won or he didn't. I would've preferred him to win or not from the decision. The TO had a lot of pressure on her to make a good choice, and she obv. wanted to give Judo the win. So Logic suggests a rematch to help himself out.

[Thndrst0rm]

@RayLedgend He could have whistled, but I can easily see he was doing an uair right before the usmash hits him

[1kyleisreal]

I don't get why they did another round. Logic did a Uair and was going to get hit by the Usmash regardless.....

[TeeKayDee]

there's an inevitable loss rule that overrides the pause rule though

[ScizorTheOverlord]

15:56 reminds me so much of Melee, im sorry =.

[Ryejew]

Rainbow Dash: Booo

[Anthon1996]

Friggin' disable the pausing in-game. It even says, "For tourneys".

[drew91x]

i dont blame judo or logic for what happened. Logic could of easily taken the set, but instead he proved he could win by letting him redo the match even though he never had to. Despite the rule set i think logic made a gentlemans choice. Although dont get me wrong i main sheik and hate olimar so i would love for judo to have won but it was just tough luck =(

[CrazYVolumE]

JUST PUT PAUSE OFF -.-

So many sets get lost because of it (e.g. vs IC while you're mashing...)

[elotenroses]

15:54

[KingBeef216]

Funk, you're an idiot for asking people to disregard the decency that Logic should have shown, despite what the ruleset was.

[MrKingFunk]

You are complete idiots from blaming it on Logic rather than blaming it on the ruleset.

[sasdsasdsasd]

Logic is a faggot.

[meandmybrother002]

wow if only judo hadn't paused, he would have moved on.

[AlphaZealot]

Just a note: the pause was unintentional. We thought otherwise at the time because...it was so perfect.

[VideoGameBootCamp]

@AlphaZealot ^

[OminousSlush]

"Judo doesn't have  anyone else to blame for that, but himself"

So much bull, the Unity ruleset and not having pause off is to blame.

[lbblur]

no respect for logic... none at all judo won fair and only pressed the start button

[TheWarriorofTwilight]

Fucking Logic -_-. I'm sure if he was in Judos position, he would've argued that he won. Good shit Judo, you're amazing.

[manofgames4555]

Every rule has an exception! In this case truthfully Logic would have lost. For it would have been more admirable than rematching to give the game to Judo. Yet, at the same time all is fair in using the rules. Sorry, Judo. Good games Logic and Judo however. I was impressed by the chain. lol I want to play Sheik now (almost). :)

[MrKingFunk]

Why are people hating on Logic?

It shouldn't EVER have been his decision to determine whether Judo lost or not. Today (the TO) should have given the match to Logic automatically instead of dumping all that load of responsibility on him. Very unprofessional.

And for your information, Logic traveled a long way for this tournament and he played for one purpose: to win. If you guys can't understand that you should just quit smash.

[HalfMoonBlade]

Lol Logic's a bitch. I sincerely hope he gets booed whenever he plays from now on. Supposedly one of the best Olimars, he got schooled by a mid tier, got past him on a mere technicality, and then proceeded to get handled by ANOTHER mid tier after pulling out a pocket MK in an attempt to beat her. This is supposed to be on of the best Olimars? I'd rather have dabuz/Rich Brown representing the character for the U.S, thanks.

[clowsui]

@VideoGameBootCamp put in the description at the very top that Judo didn't pause on purpose -__-

[DieEchse90]

Good Stuff... Judo shouldve won.

[knihThink]

woowwww logic is a bitch

it's not even like he SD'd or something, judo killed him, he beat him, it happened

he seriously took the win and went on to fight judo's opponent?

[SmasherDyclone]

@knihThink

He put his position on the line and rematched Judo. He didn't have to and could have just taken the win. Complete hype kill though. They should have disabled pausing in the first place and Judo would have won.

[BrandonC9392]

point is he paused.

[xephyr417]

Poor judo.

[LordoKarnage]

BOOOOO!!!!!

[SavedByGODsGrace777]

I bet Judo is used to pausing in friendly matches right Before an epic win so it was pretty much natural for him do something like that to show off his win. But the fault isn't Judo's. The pause should have been disabled before their matches even began in the settings.

Its strange that it wasn't disabled Especially During a Tournament...

[AirborneIsGolden]

@SavedByGODsGrace777 Lol, actually, I've never seen him pause in friendlies and I've played him more than anyone.

[SavedByGODsGrace777]

I bet Judo is used to pausing in friendly matches right Before an epic win so it was pretty much natural for him do something like that to show off his win. But the fault isn't Judo's. The pause should have been disabled before their matches even began in the settings.

Its strange that it wasn't disabled Especially During a Tournament...

[JETSnus]

"Combo"

[GodismyRock89]

Everyone should realize that it's the TO/Ruleset decision when it comes to something like this. You shouldn't ever put it or blame it on the player ever.

[joe031193]

i guess thats what u get for being cocky. =/

[technovik]

"WHO PAUSED!!?" ..haha this was so funny!! xD

stop hating on logic!

[Zachattax64]

Logic, your a giant ass. Take the loss :| you got out played by sheik. Deal with it

[CyanMan2010]

i saw it live! and it was soo amazing! so exciting! and suddenly PAUSE xDDD

real fun to watch!

AND STOP HATING ON LOGIC, you would have done the same!^^

[PrettyPieHead]

Omfg ... why ... I asked you WHY! Why did you start that new game!?!?! Firstly: If you DID see the replay first then you MUST have seen that he never would have survived, even with oerfect DI. I remember the stream, and I think it was logic who said he could whistle it, which is absolutely bullshit when you look at it now.

However, if it is a matter of principal (which it SHOULD be, or less you'd be stupid to rematch it) it's another cause. But STILL! Fair game would be last stock same % amount!

[gnahzdivad]

lol he probably paused just to rub it in Logic's face.

[SSBBSword]

@tripelon logic wins because judo paused at the end of game 3, so they redid the match 3 and logic wins..

[djmikeaaronr]

why the fuck would you press pause? dumb dumb dumb

[crazyxadamx]

I call shenanigans.

[jolteontrainer]

Logic is cock blocker of the year. >:[

[Zorchei]

Judo is by far the most amazing Brawl player. Fuck Logic for robbing him. You truly impressed us all, Judo.

[SyonRyoken]

@Zorchei At least Logic went for a redo. Granted he couldve really been a great man and just given it to Judo. However he gave Judo another chance. And there was nooo reason for him to press pause. Screw the TO for not dealing with this properly. But hey thats our URC members for yah.

[tripelon]

2-2 .........who won the match!!!!????

[Sloxify]

brawl sheik isn't terrible? think i might play this game every once in a while.

[drew91x]

<3 juddo

[ThaIrishMafia]

this was absolute bullshit

how you gonna say the kid didn't win LOL everyone saw judo win rofl

[rathyAro]

Judo you're amazing. You may have lost this one match, but what matters is you have the skill to destroy logic and plenty of other high level players. Sheik represent.

[JoylessAlbatross]

Saw only this part of the stream and everyone else in the room was laughing about how dumb this whole thing was. They talked about it for HOURS...

[pappleparker]

@SmasherExel I know that all to well but, good set though

[xXIsaakXx94]

16:00 - 16:05 da bess

[slimpyman]

brawl is a 18:12 complex game?!?! what lol

[Fearoth1]

This is retarded

[GURU3LIVE]

Wow no johns bro GG judo

[pappleparker]

OMFG I hate it when I do that sorry, im on my cell and somtimes comments post twice :/

[pappleparker]

You shouldnt be mad at Logic. he won, and it was by the rules he won and, dispite the crowd was against him, he managed to 2 stock that salt and after all, its all just for the love of Smash Bros.

[SmasherExcel]

@pappleparker He was too drained after game 3 to even care anymore. AJ has said time and time again that Sheik is really stressful for him mentally. He says that he gets worse as the bracket progresses. So to play that match-up again at that level killed it for him.

[Ganonballer]

That was st00pid. Good job Judo. Ya dun gud.

[RavagingTerror]

Everyone was so mad.

LMAO

[LordofWolves]

Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. He was dead, there was NO way he could have DI'd out of it. Suck it up, No Johns.

[Mattpwnslevel70s]

I couldn't watch after the third match. I know what happens. It's pretty sad. Judo deserved to win.

[Oriondaranger]

15:55 That is the coldest set up i have ever seen.

[RalphCecil]

Also in all honesty it was kind of for the best that things turned out the way they did, because it showed the URC the flaw in that rule, which they fixed rsther quickly.

Too bad it was at the cost of a hyped match for Judo though. T_T

[NonRandomUser]

I don't approve of this outcome.

[RalphCecil]

LOL Judo did not mean to pause. I was there it was just an accidental slip of a finger.

[Counteh]

Speaking as someone that has played Judo on this stage before, when sheik does her DACUS across the ice is possibly the scariest thing in brawl.

[Samfic]

Judo paused for stylin' points.

He may not have won the set, but he won all of our hearts.

[ItoxBlade]

There's no way he could DI or do SHIT at that point. Fucking retarded TO's

[TophDaGreat]

Why was pause not turned off beforehand?

[Jarlaxle1157]

i know this was lame and he should have won and etc. but...why would he pause?

[NathanEmanuelS]

@Jarlaxle1157 Crowd hype, obviously. He thought it didn't care if he paused because there was no way in hell Logic was surviving that, so he decided to do it for the hype.

Imo, Judo should have won either way. As long as the pause isn't interupting the game play, it shouldn't matter.

[djbrowny]

Lol. no common sense at all. the TO's are pathetic, grow a brain and a single moral fibre, nothing would have saved him without the pause. Good to see that Logic's name precedes him, bet your LIFE this bullsh!t would not have happened if it was vs some random local kid in the exact same situation.

For shame.

[GCLU]

@djbrowny

He paused himself, he admitted he paused for some reason. The ruleset says what it says. People win with MK on time (or they did before hurr) but people do not mind.

[GCLU]

And this is why pause is now turned off.

jUdo MAD?

[lChannighanl]

The pause would actually only give Logic more time to prepare for DI. He would've lost with or without pause.

[ChemaShima]

Judo won in my heart! Logic, you got styled on!

It was a nice match! Congratulations to both!

[Freshyy05]

could coney talk about himself anymore? Jesus

[KingBeef216]

@Freshyy05 That was AZ, dude. And it wasn't that bad, chill out.

[lChannighanl]

Sheik might as well be a girl, the VA for Sheik is a girl, so I mean...

[Roanoke884]

@lChannighanl half of the voice actors for guys in anime are girls. I guess we should consider them to be female also. :P

[SnMRudolph]

@lChannighanl lol shiek is a girl.

[TeshNeoteny]

hes looking needle dacus upsmash AAAAAAAAAAAAOWWWWWWW!!

[hinkage]

Awesome combo, too bad it was ruined

[MasterOfGalaxies77]

Something funny is that some of the time the commentators refer to Shiek as a she, and other times as a he.

[mjg7tlink]

LOL @ "REDO 18:43"

[FxckCensors]

>The most amazing Brawl ending to a set I've ever seen.

>Doesn't count

Somewhere in Japan Sakurai is laughing.

[AymanLT]

judo isnt using chain.

hes slapping logic in the face with his dick.

[mjg7tlink]

@AymanLT LOL

[ValxLar]

Logic you would redo it just cause you got styled on you were gonna lose anyways.

[AymanLT]

fuck logic

[BigD666]

Okay I rewatched that part 5 times. Logic was still in uair animation and was completely confirmed on the hit of usmash, so even with the pause he was going to get hit and die anyway.

Sucks that Judo paused though.

[sundowniseeu]

15:54

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[drybones54321]

Why is Sheik lower on the tier list than Peach?

[jebril]

@drybones54321 A Peach got second at this tourney, Sheik does alright against Oli but she does a lot worse against other characters. I agree that she's underrated though, but her killing power is garbage.

[drybones54321]

@jebril If you use Zelda with Sheik, his worst match ups become a little better because Zelda can KO 10 times better than Sheik can :) Both of them together should be at least next to sonic in my opinion.

[StarChildRoan]

inb4logichate

which i support

[kornssbm]

Judo still dumb for pausing.. lmao!

No, I'm not a fan of either players, just saying

[Roanoke884]

We will never forget. Judo was robbed.

[battlexon]

@Roanoke884 I'm pretty sure that I lost all respect for Logic after this...

[TWiNKatGC]

@battlexon Why? Judo put himself in that position. His options were to either lose by technicality, or gamble for a chance to win by playing a rematch. Thanks to Logic, Judo was given a second chance.

[battlexon]

@TWiNKatGC I just don't understand how anyone can accept a win when you know you lost...

[SyonRyoken]

@battlexon lol find something you really want and strive to be the best at and maybe itll register in you. Also Logic didnt accept a win; he couldve but he didnt. He did a redo when he easily couldve just ended it there. Just because Judo went all Chris Webber doesnt mean it should just be ignored. Rules are rules. You gotta enforce them some way or another. Again this is ultimately the TOs decision. So if you want to blame anyone, look at the TO not the players. They dont have the final say.

[battlexon]

@SyonRyoken Your assumption that I have nothing that I strive for is pretty shallow and uninformed...I understand what happened, I'm just saying that it seems like an empty win when you know you really lost. The TO's failed, the end.