El fuerte is the most ridiculous character in SF, if u learn him well, its just fucking stupid the mix up and mindgames he can do. Fucking cheap ass character.
ive gone there b4. some pros are cool. but a majority seem to be elitist douches. they cut in front all day. its hilarious. if they lose, its like their mom just died sometimes.
Gooteck's boxer is rly good, but he clearly had limited knowledge of the boxer v fuerte matchup. Fuerte just kept messing up his back charge with all the splashes.
I agree Gootecks most likely is one of the best players for us west coasters but playing against a good fuerte especially Kai's is really fucking confusing
seriously...my friend mains elf, and all I hear during the match is "tortiiiilllllla"
especially if I try and slow the match down at all, and god forbid I have time to charge a move (as Rog), I literally have to go all normals or else fuerte is jumping at my face or sliding.
But he now fears my abel, I can roll right past all of his body slam setups and the rest of fuerte's garbage gameplay.
hahaha what a joke response. IF you want to do XBL battle, i'll use el fuerte and show you what a mix up mindfuck is. Just message me if you want my GT.
I found the good way to beat fuerte is full offense because fuerte relies on the character to block alot do to his pressure he put on you. Kinda like Akira and Goh from VF series
I need an arcade stick to improve my Fuerte. I did learn, though, that during the animation for his Ultra, if you hold down forward or back, you change how far he jumps.
same for all his moves. I love doing backdash , holding towards and doing the splash. dudes always think you're doing his backdash command throw thing and get hit with a crossup
Not necessarily, a big part of El Fuerte is that he's a mind game in himself and not many people are used to him and his style. Fuerte is very good now, but as the game progesses, we might see fuerte become a little less usable because people will become more accustomed to fuerte and how to counter him.
He is broken, and seriously not much fun to play with. Alot of people have already learned tactics to demolish him, because almost everyone played him in the beginning. So his tactics arent new or interesting and are sometimes quite predictable.
yeah his messiah kick the one where he flails about sideways in the air hits all mid to high till he lands. Then he can go mid with the backflip kick, sweep or overhead. If you dont see the backflip kick immediatly do a lvl 1 or 2 focus attack. the focus attack will catch the sweep or the overhead. and his dive kick is what they use to throw you off or build meter for ex spin or Messiah kick. Just study his lag and his openings, he has quite a few, hes not too hard to get around.
I've been doing "forward to down to back to up (facing any direction)+ p" since Champion Edition and it works 100% and a split second quicker than a full 360!!!! Works wonders standing, upon landing and as getting up.
Only when I have to do a spinning pile-driver super than I actually do a 360 + 270 but only on landing or as getting up.
Just doing a standing 360 will you jump, so I don't know how they manage to a standing 360+270 w/o jumping!
and how is that, he is designed after a Lucha Libre fighter who are all about high flying fancy moves... It fits the play style very well. And the whole cook thing, what wrong with that, he wheres a traditional kinda french style outfit as his alt costume.
El Fuerte is a pretty cool character, not sure what you hate about him. He shares a lot with Fay Long, there both kinda over the top caricatures of what there based on. Fuerte is also a Chef, so you get wacky Chef out fits, and is the reason one of his intros has him holding a pan.
His moves are all really over the top too, just like you would expect a Lucha Libra fighter to have. Hes also crazy fast.
that all depends on the character, and yes there is a counter, you just have to figure it out. Or you can jump up/back and Jab or Short depending on char. When i play EL i dont try to use it that much unless i try a cross up game, but most time i mix it up but just keep running back and forth. Keep them guessing, that is Fuerte's game
its the same mic we use every time (good quality). we just level it different every time cuz its dark and we dont remember what the last settings were.
guys need to make sure thats good or a little low. raising volume on the mic track is WAY WAY WAY better than clipping the mic input. low volume = better than high.
daaaamn. I'd say Gootecks should never have tried going into the air and instead answered Fuerte with some anti-air normals--but I'm assuming that's what he was trying to do when he was getting wrecked by all those body slams :P probably should've dashed back or focused instead
el fuerte kicks ass i love his super
kasumimoon1961 11 months ago
....damn gootecks
lilbig8543 1 year ago
check out the response for this vid
teamlegendatl 1 year ago
tostada press!
Vegeshu 1 year ago
Good Fuerte.
Sledge070685 1 year ago
the best characters and moves dont win the game. the best players do.
blueorange31 2 years ago
gootecks totally got mind fucked here
0xxgamefreakxx0 2 years ago
VIVA MEXICO!!!
rediance 2 years ago 7
Run! Run! Run!
IamTheMaximum 2 years ago
sometimes no commentators is the best commentator.
skiie 2 years ago 2
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fuerte is one of the most painfull oponents for balrog.
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darkhokage 2 years ago
other way around actually
Rob8036 2 years ago 4
What are you talking about? Balrog beats almost everything Fuerte has with low fierce and jump back fierce.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
No. No it's not.
SweepTheLegYo 2 years ago
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mtlaw007 2 years ago
damn, that fuerte is hella good. i'd hate to play against a fuerte like that online
jrombaoa 2 years ago
it looks like el fuerte is the new vega :) yeah, so what if vega's still there ;P
Versigo 2 years ago
My two favorite characters going at it...awesome!!! Dunno who to cheer for though.
kinglesterjrsquires 2 years ago
Haha they are also my 2 favorite characters. But Im more into Fuerte right now cause of his mobility.
ederondotcom 2 years ago
holy crap he is so fast his speed is imbalance lol now i see a new character to play, el fuerte looks fun to use
sniperclown 2 years ago
they need to stop hiring harvey mudd dropouts to do the commentary
angrykoopa 2 years ago
Gotta love Fuerte
ezjamin 2 years ago 4
VAOOWW EL FUERTE INCREDIBLE . :)
micirci 2 years ago
Why do people wait until 0 seconds to choose a character. Pisses me off lol Amazing Fuerte though! Viva El Fuerte!
Evidentz07 2 years ago 5
Fuerte=Beast
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El fuerte is the most ridiculous character in SF, if u learn him well, its just fucking stupid the mix up and mindgames he can do. Fucking cheap ass character.
Graftin2006 2 years ago
yun of sf4 :)
uniquewiz 2 years ago
nah thats more like rufus
SHADALOO3000 2 years ago
He makes me throw my controller :-(
Hurley1080 2 years ago
ive gone there b4. some pros are cool. but a majority seem to be elitist douches. they cut in front all day. its hilarious. if they lose, its like their mom just died sometimes.
blaqskillz 2 years ago 4
Gooteck's boxer is rly good, but he clearly had limited knowledge of the boxer v fuerte matchup. Fuerte just kept messing up his back charge with all the splashes.
datriadx18 2 years ago
I agree Gootecks most likely is one of the best players for us west coasters but playing against a good fuerte especially Kai's is really fucking confusing
DonolovesMileyandsk8 2 years ago
This announcer needs to shut up.
numnunums 2 years ago
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Agreed, never use this fucking idiot to do any commentary ever again. Holy shit.
d3f1anc3 2 years ago
lol yeahhh hes just talking and he sounds like a douche i swear he says everything twice
AbuzzCriminal 2 years ago
am trying with El Fuerte anybody who want battle me on ps3 add me my screen name is EVO-DRIFTER ( dont for get to capitiized)
bimbo831 2 years ago
ADD ME BigiD
t04n 2 years ago
wow i didnt know kai was a fuerte player
i only knew he was a chun li
very nice match
kapekode 2 years ago
I think he switched to Chun now.
kLB 2 years ago
i just find it funny that elf is designed to be played cheesey. if you dont spam those 3 moves over and over you dont have a shot with elf.
thejunkmanlives 2 years ago
seriously...my friend mains elf, and all I hear during the match is "tortiiiilllllla"
especially if I try and slow the match down at all, and god forbid I have time to charge a move (as Rog), I literally have to go all normals or else fuerte is jumping at my face or sliding.
But he now fears my abel, I can roll right past all of his body slam setups and the rest of fuerte's garbage gameplay.
xkingxgrimx 2 years ago
lol then you havent faced a good elf player
ottokbron 2 years ago 2
I agree, not only can Abel roll, but he can also use that anti-air throw of his (when timed right) before Elf does his press slam move.
ZeitgeistXII 2 years ago
yeah man, my pal pretty much stops jumping after I land two of those AA grabs in a round.
Feel's so good to grab a fuerte out of the air with abel after having like 0 options with balrog.
xkingxgrimx 2 years ago
hahaha what a joke response. IF you want to do XBL battle, i'll use el fuerte and show you what a mix up mindfuck is. Just message me if you want my GT.
Daerlansucks 2 years ago
top notch fuerte player, quality stuff
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trayviongu 2 years ago
I found the good way to beat fuerte is full offense because fuerte relies on the character to block alot do to his pressure he put on you. Kinda like Akira and Goh from VF series
StreetTrooper 2 years ago
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wow ur pro
IheartWelches 2 years ago
hes very good against charge characters. esp turdlers
capoa2 2 years ago
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"Ryan is lost right now"
lmao. I main as Blanka and I DESTROY El Fuerte. But I'm thinking of switching to Fuerte because I like fast and confusing characters
MIMIC8801 2 years ago
talk about confidence
Chaoskae 2 years ago
The commentators were right... gootecks didn't seem to have any kind of knowledge of this match-up at all.
datriadx18 2 years ago
EAT THAT TIERS!!!!
Pencilburner1 2 years ago
block up motha fucka!
mloclam7 2 years ago
that is one sick ass fuerte player
IVFADE2BLACKVI 2 years ago 2
Nah, gootecks showed no experience versus el fuerte in this fight, its all about dash and when to defend standing.
crapzors 2 years ago
gootecks was so lost during this match, but that doesn't change the fact that kai plays a monster fuerte
shiken 2 years ago
Yeah, a pro el fuerte player put some serious mind games in the match, charge characters always seems to get caught up on those :D
crapzors 2 years ago 2
I need an arcade stick to improve my Fuerte. I did learn, though, that during the animation for his Ultra, if you hold down forward or back, you change how far he jumps.
GoggleCandy 2 years ago
same for all his moves. I love doing backdash , holding towards and doing the splash. dudes always think you're doing his backdash command throw thing and get hit with a crossup
whitecollarhobo 2 years ago
Thanks for the tip. Didn't know it applied to all of his 'jumps'
GoggleCandy 2 years ago
Man, Kai is crazy fast. He punished most of Gootecks jumps ON REACTION with that anti-air leg lock thing.
Peetar 2 years ago
GUACAMOLE LEG THRO
GRRAB 2 years ago
;) ;) ;)
randomly run into one of your comments.
teenidol12 2 years ago
damn i was hopeing i would learn something off this match....typical fuerte but thats what u have to do when the oppenent doesnt know what to do ...
sil80drifts 2 years ago
Is the arcade still like that or they have all chars now?
knowskill5 2 years ago
The arcade will probably never have the home console characters, Capcom haven't really mentioned it I don't think.
howtoread 2 years ago
hilarious match
themanimal07 2 years ago
Fuerte's only game is crossups / mixups on wakeup. If you can survive that, you're in good shape to win.
jynxycats 2 years ago
El Fuerte is an awesome character
i use him in acade, in london UK!
RecklessProductions 2 years ago
I miss rockefeller's commentary... those thing were hilarious.
Konkaver 2 years ago
Terrible commentary.
psychicsandwich7 2 years ago
I honestly didn't think El Fuerte could be that broken :P haha. Very well played.
Mesmic 2 years ago
That was awesome. I cant wait until I have money to buy this. My arcade stick I got for christmas JUST for this game is collecting dust. :(
pvtjhon 2 years ago
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arcade inifinity is one of the most ghetto ass arcades in rowland.
danielyeh 2 years ago
Why is the announcer telling them how to play the match sometimes?
Sciutoman 2 years ago
Stream of consciousness.
ashjudd 2 years ago 2
very nice job.
Kenderwood 2 years ago
u jump towards the wall, then press the joystick towards opposite direction and immediately press medium punch. that makes splash
hp is the grab
mysticnamja 2 years ago
At 2:34 how do you do that grab off the wall?
Revakk 2 years ago
Fuerte scares the shit out of me because of stuff like this. if I saw someone doing this shit I would have completely no idea what to do.
well played, Kai.
transience242 2 years ago 11
El Fuerte: BODY SLAM ALL DAY BABY!!
HyperSonicXtreme 2 years ago
El Fuerte completely destroyed Balrog, who didnt know when to use his charge uppercut.
Stimchi 2 years ago 2
god fuerte. thes good w the air take down. and the fake out.
danieldinho101 2 years ago
Ho wow. this fuerte player is pretty damn good. I'm impressed how he kept on faking out the other guy to jump and then owned him with his air attack.
lalaborat 2 years ago
FUERTE
JazzSheep 2 years ago
Kai is a great Fuerte player, he's better sticking with him over Chun.
lordofultima 2 years ago
Not necessarily, a big part of El Fuerte is that he's a mind game in himself and not many people are used to him and his style. Fuerte is very good now, but as the game progesses, we might see fuerte become a little less usable because people will become more accustomed to fuerte and how to counter him.
DoubleBassAlejo 2 years ago 4
This may be true, but Kai also does a lot better as El Fuerte, so my statement is true as well, for now anyway.
lordofultima 2 years ago
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Frat boy homos!
TheFonz75 2 years ago
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Man El Fuerte is a Spammer.
No wonder most people hate him.
CrimsonMemberSora 2 years ago
this is my first time seeing el fuerte in action.. and HOLY CRAP. lol
KOkun 3 years ago
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Great picture quality...the best i've seen so far. BUT THAT FRAT BOY COMMENTARY IS FUCKING ANNOYING!
TheFonz75 3 years ago
get the fuck out of here with that shit, mute it then and turn on ur own music
ice0berg 2 years ago
u do realize there's a mute button?
its on the bottom right if u didn't know
cptBraver 2 years ago
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shut up faggot
morbentfel 2 years ago
crazy el fuerte wins :O
smiley917 3 years ago
First --> Its KAI that played EL
2nd --> El Fuerte actually its pretty good character.
ddust 3 years ago
y there r no ppl using rufus??? he's a guy with great potential.
hipopigtan 3 years ago
He is broken, and seriously not much fun to play with. Alot of people have already learned tactics to demolish him, because almost everyone played him in the beginning. So his tactics arent new or interesting and are sometimes quite predictable.
Biginitiald 3 years ago
oic...so u guys are already few steps ahead.
i not really into this game so perhaps rufus moves seem confusing and unpredictable 2 me...
hipopigtan 3 years ago
yeah his messiah kick the one where he flails about sideways in the air hits all mid to high till he lands. Then he can go mid with the backflip kick, sweep or overhead. If you dont see the backflip kick immediatly do a lvl 1 or 2 focus attack. the focus attack will catch the sweep or the overhead. and his dive kick is what they use to throw you off or build meter for ex spin or Messiah kick. Just study his lag and his openings, he has quite a few, hes not too hard to get around.
Biginitiald 3 years ago
hmmm.....
dodgers2213 3 years ago
good job kai, i like it
UltraDavid 3 years ago
loved this vid. hat fuerte was awesome. Ill still be watchin gootecks balrog though.
tmwx9 3 years ago
What is Fuerte's special (grab) move if I do 270 degree + p or k ? If he has such a move?
amazingdany 3 years ago
you mean 360?
and no he does not have a 360 move, just cause he is CQC and a wrestler does not mean he has that move. Most of his moves are QCF+p/k, QCB+p/k
Biginitiald 3 years ago
But you gotta admit that a spinning pile driver is much easier with a 270 + p than 360!!!!! Hu hu!
amazingdany 3 years ago
not really cause its easier to rotate from forward to forward than rotate from forward to down back
Biginitiald 3 years ago
I've been doing "forward to down to back to up (facing any direction)+ p" since Champion Edition and it works 100% and a split second quicker than a full 360!!!! Works wonders standing, upon landing and as getting up.
Only when I have to do a spinning pile-driver super than I actually do a 360 + 270 but only on landing or as getting up.
Just doing a standing 360 will you jump, so I don't know how they manage to a standing 360+270 w/o jumping!
amazingdany 3 years ago
the thing is that they Partition it
they throw out a light kick as they start the motion and then quick rotate the rest of the way during the animation of the light kick
if you are good/quick enough then you will "tick" them and end up grabbing them by the time you reach forward
no offense but the jumping tactic is kinda noobish. u canalso use the "Green Palm" to partition it
u use a move to put them n "Block Stun" to give you enough time to do the 360/720 motion+p but also keep u from jumping
Biginitiald 3 years ago
Ah soooooo...
amazingdany 3 years ago
That's buffering, not partitioning.
LynxWinters 3 years ago 2
oh yeah its Charge Partitioning and Buffering
I tend to get those mixed up sometimes
thanx
Biginitiald 3 years ago
To quote Justin Wong on Gootecks' podcast: "I think El Fuerte is top tier."
Peetar 3 years ago
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el fuerte lol, horrible character design.
MengoMango 3 years ago
and how is that, he is designed after a Lucha Libre fighter who are all about high flying fancy moves... It fits the play style very well. And the whole cook thing, what wrong with that, he wheres a traditional kinda french style outfit as his alt costume.
Biginitiald 3 years ago
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Probably means bad design as in the Lucha Libre fighter design is stupid.
RadicallyDreaming 3 years ago
El Fuerte is a pretty cool character, not sure what you hate about him. He shares a lot with Fay Long, there both kinda over the top caricatures of what there based on. Fuerte is also a Chef, so you get wacky Chef out fits, and is the reason one of his intros has him holding a pan.
His moves are all really over the top too, just like you would expect a Lucha Libra fighter to have. Hes also crazy fast.
ParadoxControl 3 years ago 15
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el fuerte is just a cheesy spam character. His moves are mad random so defending against him is like some fucked up guessing game.
When i see idiots just spam that stupid splash move I cringe, he makes honda look technical. Fuck him
hardgayramen4ever 3 years ago
LOL!
AliasFang 2 years ago
GOOD LORD IT LOOKS LIKE El players is gonna be spamming that splash
is there any counter to it?
like a ducking fierce?
SCCVIDEOEDITING 3 years ago
nope but he can block walking forward since its gonna cross u up.....
or u can focus attack dash cancel = Punish....
but its 50% chance El's Won't Use The Splash Grab or Splash.....
guess it right....??? lol
i Should know.....i Play El Fuerte
xD
cuba 3 years ago
that all depends on the character, and yes there is a counter, you just have to figure it out. Or you can jump up/back and Jab or Short depending on char. When i play EL i dont try to use it that much unless i try a cross up game, but most time i mix it up but just keep running back and forth. Keep them guessing, that is Fuerte's game
Biginitiald 3 years ago
balrog is the best!
ricefarmer 3 years ago
wow, fuerte looks fun as hell to play with. I can't wait til the 19th
bdhenderson 3 years ago 2
17th :)
Humbag 3 years ago
Get Sanchez back. This commentary is fucking awful.
These videos aren't nearly as fun to watch without commentators.
What happened anyways?
treebobbo 3 years ago
abysmal commentary.
monkie89 3 years ago
its the same mic we use every time (good quality). we just level it different every time cuz its dark and we dont remember what the last settings were.
ArcadeInfinity 3 years ago
guys need to make sure thats good or a little low. raising volume on the mic track is WAY WAY WAY better than clipping the mic input. low volume = better than high.
od3rus 3 years ago 2
side note, best video/gamesound quality ever! Good job guys
od3rus 3 years ago
haha kai was ex'ing it up. good shit. i saw this match at AI.
SF4socal 3 years ago
Bring back the old announcers!
Kai was a beast. Or it was just plain luck cause Gootecks had no idea what to do and just got mad a little too late.
BradRy2 3 years ago
THIS!!!
FFS that announcer was too random
EvilNando 3 years ago 2
Guys if your going to speak on the video speak about the match
KanameTousen 3 years ago 5
daaaamn. I'd say Gootecks should never have tried going into the air and instead answered Fuerte with some anti-air normals--but I'm assuming that's what he was trying to do when he was getting wrecked by all those body slams :P probably should've dashed back or focused instead
ZitzBracket 3 years ago
Did Kai actually drop Chun or has he just been practicing with Fuerte?
s0n1ch3r0 3 years ago
he's playing both now
Antzer12 3 years ago
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info!
s0n1ch3r0 3 years ago
A CLASSIC BATTLE OF SPEED VS POWER.
puertoriqueno361 3 years ago 3
so he dropped chun hm?
oOpancakes 3 years ago
DAMN GOOTECKS GOT WRECKED
sonicsnake9 3 years ago 2
Great stuff. Nice to see a Fuerte player every once and a while.
ocelot09 3 years ago