@kuztom65 If you want to use the logic of this mortal plane of existence, study creation and its intricacies. Do you know how complex the human eye is? To claim everything occurred by chance is an insult to the magnificence of God's creation.
@kuztom65 A man who is also God is the only way to pay the fine for everyone's sins. Man sinned, therefore it needed to be a man. However, the man also needed to be God since He is infinite in worth. Who can withstand the wrath of God and rise again? God Himself.
Yes, it may be a "logical fail" in your prideful, mortal-bound mind, but the spirituals work on a completely different set of rules, and God makes those rules. God can do anything, therefore He chose to live among us.
I downloaded all the podcasts of Paul Washers teaching onto my ipod and went on holiday. I spent two weeks on a cruise ship in the Med listening day and night (even falling asleep) to his teachings. It led me to pray earnestly to God, a re-evaluation of my life so far and to realise that God HAS given me a command to live by, to travel a road, to be His , now, at this time in my life....every other road leads to death, even if it seems right. Lord Jesus, please be the Lord of my life. Amen.
kjvonly01: He`s not trying to add works into the message. Good works,(Good fruit)comes from a good tree does it not? Our good fruit is the outcome of a (true) believer, it comes along with repentance and belief, you cannot separate it, it comes naturally in the believer through the power of the Holy Spirit. Paul is just stating a fact, ( NOT PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL.)Be careful how you judge brother...you know the scriptures for that I am sure. You need to read 1 JOHN, God bless.
1Cor 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14: If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15: If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
A party in this passage is saved; yet so as by fire.
Lots of people leave the church who will be saved for all eternity.
A(TRUE)follower of Christ cannot walk away from Christ once they know Him, Jesus finishes what He starts,PHILLIPIANS 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:KJV(work)refers to Gods activity in saving them.God brings salvation, He continues it...Someone might fall away for a short time but they always come back, that`s not what Paul is talking about, he means they leave for good and never come back...Peace
( The body of Christ is the Church )...in that case you are saying we can walk away from Christ once we receive the Holy Spirit? That`s impossible, and I can prove it, security of the believer. Paul is teaching TRUE biblical doctrine, something most Christians are not familliar with these days. What Paul is stating is that those who leave Christ never were Christians to begin with,( it`s biblical.)Look on my page,I have scripture references if you dont believe me. God bless.READ GALATIANS 2:21
Yes, I agree...our good deeds (apart)from God are as filthy rags, but when led by the Holy Spirit it is quite something entirely differnt. You see my brother, I never said good works in and of myself,( but in the Spirit of Christ Himself who lives in us.) Not I live, but Christ lives in me.
Anyone who can claim to paint an entire body of people as unsaved based on "leaving the Church" is a control freak, and adding works as a vindicating marker of salvation.
You took exception to my daring to address a broad brushed remark by Mr. Washer, eluding that anyone leaving the Church, (organization implied) was implied, not the Body of Christ as you elude, was EVER BORN AGAIN.
Mt:18:20: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
You wont be the first to have it our for Paul Washer, and you surely wont be the last. Believe what you will, but you have yet to still prove anything as far as false doctrines are concerned which is always the case with Paul Washer....Good luck wasting your time.I thought I could talk some sense into you but I can see your mind is made up. Take care...Best wishes..Peace.
Mr. Washer made NO MENTION of the Body of Christ when referring to "leaving the Church".
He DID NOT INTEND to qualify that remark as Soulrestorer is now trying to imply by pretending Mr. Washers address, was related to "THE BODY OF CHRIST", when he NEVER inferred to any such thing.
I would also add, that the Kingdom message that Mr. Washer refers to, is a Jewish message. (Mat 10:5-8)
Listen to the video, quote: " the reason why they are not staying is because they were never born again"
Lol, I am not pretending anything, I`m not here to play games with people. Let me tell you something, take a look at my page, it`s all Paul Washer...Whenever he talks about the Church,(HE MEANS THE BODY OF CHRIST!!!!)(HE`S NOT TALKING ABOUT A PRETTY LITTLE BUILDING WITH A CROSS ON TOP.)I have held all of Mr Washers teachings in light of scripture for over an entire year now, and he has done nothing but open my eyes and blessed me more in one year than any church has done in 20 years.Peace
Go back a LISTEN TI THE VIDEO. Mr. WASHER MAKES NO SUCH CLAIM. He is clearly speaking about people coming into the Church, and people LEAVING THE CHURCH. (Building)
Incidentally, there is no such thing, as someone entering the body of Christ, and then being removed from the Body of Christ.
The body is already seated in heavenly places in Christ from before the foundation of the world with every member predestined based on foreknowledge.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
True Born Again Christians can never lose their salvation. Paul Washer is a false teacher by saying that the blood of Jesus is not enough. We must show works. If that is the case, then why did Jesus die?
Showing works can be deceptive because Mormons, Catholics, etc also do works. Paul Washer would think they are saved?
Only God knows are heart. Paul is wrong by saying that we need to understand our salvation. Jesus never said that. We are to trust!!
So you watch Paul Washer once and come up with that ridiculous conclusion?
Paul Washer teaches that we are saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ, but that when one is saved, a process called "hagiasmos" or sancification begins.
True Christians are not legalistic like Mormons, Catholics, etc., but they have genuine love for God and His laws. The doctrine of assurance is all over the New Testament.
Read: 1 John 1:6; James 2:20; Matthew 7:16; 2 Corinthians 13:5; 2 Corinthians 5:17.
Salvation is a supernatural experience, and I can tell you firsthand that what I used to do, and the desires I once had are gone, and replaced with a love and fear for God and to do His will.
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
@kuztom65 forget hell, may you get doused in petrol and burnt NOW..you muthafucking COCKSUCKER NONCE CUNT!!
parkplace5577 1 year ago
@kuztom65 If you want to use the logic of this mortal plane of existence, study creation and its intricacies. Do you know how complex the human eye is? To claim everything occurred by chance is an insult to the magnificence of God's creation.
PropheticVindicator 1 year ago
@kuztom65 A man who is also God is the only way to pay the fine for everyone's sins. Man sinned, therefore it needed to be a man. However, the man also needed to be God since He is infinite in worth. Who can withstand the wrath of God and rise again? God Himself.
Yes, it may be a "logical fail" in your prideful, mortal-bound mind, but the spirituals work on a completely different set of rules, and God makes those rules. God can do anything, therefore He chose to live among us.
PropheticVindicator 1 year ago
I downloaded all the podcasts of Paul Washers teaching onto my ipod and went on holiday. I spent two weeks on a cruise ship in the Med listening day and night (even falling asleep) to his teachings. It led me to pray earnestly to God, a re-evaluation of my life so far and to realise that God HAS given me a command to live by, to travel a road, to be His , now, at this time in my life....every other road leads to death, even if it seems right. Lord Jesus, please be the Lord of my life. Amen.
BrotherOfTheSon 2 years ago 11
(¯`•.•´¯) (¯`•.•´¯)Stay strong, hold fast and
*`•.¸(¯`•.•´¯)¸.•´ keep looking up.
¤ º° ¤`•.¸.•´ ¤ º° ¤ •.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸¸.No Fear, No worries!
JESUS is LORD...Amen!
JesusRabbi 2 years ago 12
Romans 10:9-10, John 1:12 1John 5:12-13, rule.
Where was the blood, and the resurrection? Many will be saved yet so as by fire, ( 1Cor 3:15). This my friends, is a FALSE GOSPEL.
Repentance, in connection to the saving gospel, is in relation to belief. This guy is trying to add works into the message.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
Add 1Cor 1:17-19, and 1Cor 15:3-4. IS A MUST!!!!
kjvonly01 3 years ago
kjvonly01: He`s not trying to add works into the message. Good works,(Good fruit)comes from a good tree does it not? Our good fruit is the outcome of a (true) believer, it comes along with repentance and belief, you cannot separate it, it comes naturally in the believer through the power of the Holy Spirit. Paul is just stating a fact, ( NOT PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL.)Be careful how you judge brother...you know the scriptures for that I am sure. You need to read 1 JOHN, God bless.
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
1Cor 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14: If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15: If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
A party in this passage is saved; yet so as by fire.
Lots of people leave the church who will be saved for all eternity.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
A(TRUE)follower of Christ cannot walk away from Christ once they know Him, Jesus finishes what He starts,PHILLIPIANS 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:KJV(work)refers to Gods activity in saving them.God brings salvation, He continues it...Someone might fall away for a short time but they always come back, that`s not what Paul is talking about, he means they leave for good and never come back...Peace
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
This guy has NO PROBLEM JUDGING PEOPLE AS UNSAVED who leave the Church, I have NO PROBLEM CALLING THIS MAN A LIAR.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
( The body of Christ is the Church )...in that case you are saying we can walk away from Christ once we receive the Holy Spirit? That`s impossible, and I can prove it, security of the believer. Paul is teaching TRUE biblical doctrine, something most Christians are not familliar with these days. What Paul is stating is that those who leave Christ never were Christians to begin with,( it`s biblical.)Look on my page,I have scripture references if you dont believe me. God bless.READ GALATIANS 2:21
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
1Cor 3:13-15 already disproves your claim. Where 2 or 3 are gathered, there he is.
I would NEVER surround myself with a crowd that goes about establishing their OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS which amounts to FILTHY RAGS in the site of God.
Fruit bearing and Salvation are 2 separate issues. Salvation is free, and rewards will require works of faith.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
Yes, I agree...our good deeds (apart)from God are as filthy rags, but when led by the Holy Spirit it is quite something entirely differnt. You see my brother, I never said good works in and of myself,( but in the Spirit of Christ Himself who lives in us.) Not I live, but Christ lives in me.
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
Anyone who can claim to paint an entire body of people as unsaved based on "leaving the Church" is a control freak, and adding works as a vindicating marker of salvation.
You took exception to my daring to address a broad brushed remark by Mr. Washer, eluding that anyone leaving the Church, (organization implied) was implied, not the Body of Christ as you elude, was EVER BORN AGAIN.
Mt:18:20: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
You wont be the first to have it our for Paul Washer, and you surely wont be the last. Believe what you will, but you have yet to still prove anything as far as false doctrines are concerned which is always the case with Paul Washer....Good luck wasting your time.I thought I could talk some sense into you but I can see your mind is made up. Take care...Best wishes..Peace.
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
We recognize heretics who add works to the saving Gospel of Christ, and he's as phony as a three dollar bill, and so is anyone who defends him.
All you've done is defend a man WITH NO SCRIPTURE.
Rom:10:17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
I bless you and you insult me and my faith in Christ....That says it all for me. I have nothing else to say to you, I leave you in Gods hands.
Soulrestorer 3 years ago 3
You defend a man who paints ALL PEOPLE AS UNSAVED, (and never ever born again) who leave the Church (building), and then you expect my blessing?
That says it all to me.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
Mr. Washer made NO MENTION of the Body of Christ when referring to "leaving the Church".
He DID NOT INTEND to qualify that remark as Soulrestorer is now trying to imply by pretending Mr. Washers address, was related to "THE BODY OF CHRIST", when he NEVER inferred to any such thing.
I would also add, that the Kingdom message that Mr. Washer refers to, is a Jewish message. (Mat 10:5-8)
Listen to the video, quote: " the reason why they are not staying is because they were never born again"
kjvonly01 3 years ago
Lol, I am not pretending anything, I`m not here to play games with people. Let me tell you something, take a look at my page, it`s all Paul Washer...Whenever he talks about the Church,(HE MEANS THE BODY OF CHRIST!!!!)(HE`S NOT TALKING ABOUT A PRETTY LITTLE BUILDING WITH A CROSS ON TOP.)I have held all of Mr Washers teachings in light of scripture for over an entire year now, and he has done nothing but open my eyes and blessed me more in one year than any church has done in 20 years.Peace
Soulrestorer 3 years ago
Go back a LISTEN TI THE VIDEO. Mr. WASHER MAKES NO SUCH CLAIM. He is clearly speaking about people coming into the Church, and people LEAVING THE CHURCH. (Building)
Incidentally, there is no such thing, as someone entering the body of Christ, and then being removed from the Body of Christ.
The body is already seated in heavenly places in Christ from before the foundation of the world with every member predestined based on foreknowledge.
No scripture teaches any such doctrine.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
So there is NO DOCTRINE found in the Bible that suggests that a member who was in the Body of Christ, could either leave, or be removed.
If Paul Washer was talking about people leaving the "BODY OF CHRIST", there is NO BACK DOOR from that celestial Body.
And he would be wrong.
If Paul Washer was talking about people leaving the church building, there is A BACK DOOR but then 1Cor3:13-15, and Mat 18:20 refutes his claims.
And he would still be wrong.
kjvonly01 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
True Born Again Christians can never lose their salvation. Paul Washer is a false teacher by saying that the blood of Jesus is not enough. We must show works. If that is the case, then why did Jesus die?
Showing works can be deceptive because Mormons, Catholics, etc also do works. Paul Washer would think they are saved?
Only God knows are heart. Paul is wrong by saying that we need to understand our salvation. Jesus never said that. We are to trust!!
Christ be the glory!
twospot7777777 3 years ago
So you watch Paul Washer once and come up with that ridiculous conclusion?
Paul Washer teaches that we are saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ, but that when one is saved, a process called "hagiasmos" or sancification begins.
True Christians are not legalistic like Mormons, Catholics, etc., but they have genuine love for God and His laws. The doctrine of assurance is all over the New Testament.
Read: 1 John 1:6; James 2:20; Matthew 7:16; 2 Corinthians 13:5; 2 Corinthians 5:17.
JesusChristReigns777 2 years ago 12
Salvation is a supernatural experience, and I can tell you firsthand that what I used to do, and the desires I once had are gone, and replaced with a love and fear for God and to do His will.
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
JesusChristReigns777 2 years ago 13
...And he doesn't believe that you can lose your salvation either; just to clear that up. God bless.
JesusChristReigns777 2 years ago 14
Thank you so much for these videos! I am 100% in agreement AMEN!
hyubgaek 3 years ago