Interfacing with the Mentally ill - Police Training Video 01

[Kateaclysmic]

Narrator: "... a person who has attempted suicide should be held until medical help can be found. Belts, shoelaces or clothes he might use in a new attempt to kill himself, are, of course, removed..."

Police officer: "Want a cigarette?"

[reevedavey]

@nintendaholic and mom said,"he should have friends".newsflash.people usually have friends when they,re likeable and popular and have some degree of social skills.you gotcha self a loony toonz hunee chile so quichor griping ya hear?

[reevedavey]

@pyromaniak1 was psychotic....?

[reevedavey]

@B7ACNEONder listen whack job who let you near a computer anyway?lol

[reevedavey]

YOU,RIGHT PAUL THEY DO WANNA HURT YOU AND DEY GOT DA POLEES TA DO DIDN EY PAUL?NEXT TIME PAUL OBEY DEM VOICES....

[mnpd007]

I can assure you that in the real world he'd been perforated with lead the moment he lunged with that knife. In fact, he ran a real risk of getting capped the first time he refused to drop it. Mentally ill or not, no one... not even cops... are required to experiment with their own lives.

[human0un]

paul is going to get strapped to a bed spring with his arms restrained and heis going to get shocked until he is in a complete state of mental retardation

this is the cure for his behavoir..he is now docile..doesnt even blink

[socialambiguity]

"the public seldom appreciates"...so that's an example of "us vs. them" being imbedded early on...not a new thing.

[TheBlackrebels]

putting people in a mental hospitals/group homes is no better then what the nazis put the jews and other deemed inferior people in concentration camps

[klard]

This is very out of date and not very realistic in the modern police world. Police interact with much more violence now and usually handle people with a good beating or taser.

[Michaelbos]

This may be dated, but the foundation of it, still works.

[Harryreid51]

thanks for the video

[rosaryfilms]

@Harryreid51 - you are welcome!

[B7ACKNEONder]

As someone who suffers from mental illness, I can say, The most obvious symptom of being mentally ill, is the discrimination against people with mental illness.

[pyromaniaknl]

I was psychotic and i pretty much got out of it myself, they have the intention to stuff u full with medication. If u arrest mentally ill people its inportant that u give them calming medication ASAP. Psychotic people if they get in a stressfull situation they feel like a Jew in a concentration camp. What do people do when they think there getting send to a deathcamp? The one gets so scared and start screaming, the other fights back with all he's power.

[jeanmartinolich]

@medmatic While all that you say is true about the meds, this is NOT any violation of human rights. The police had to do something to protect the man & his mother. The worse thing is that he is betrayed once he gets to jail instead of to a hospital. If he gets to a hospital, that is where the human rights issue begins if forced meds are used. Methods of helping people heal w/out meds exists, but they take time & kind patient people like the policmen. It's all about Big Pharma now..., not people.

[jdrock0]

Simple solution give them a nice strong shot of thorazine. Within no time even the most violent febal minded idividual will be nothing more them a drolling zombie. Problem solved!

[Fil0girl]

man, if only cops were still this sympathetic to mental patients. I mean, today they just throw em in jail and forget about them. deinstitutionalization was poorly managed, IMO.

[nintendaholic]

lol, that kid riding a sawhorse!

[delpha3110]

yes slyvia had prir knwolegde of my kidnapping form farilop orad and is in contact with ameiricnas cia arent you buddietees whores ,right ,indian budides yes for the hindi red child wanst it .oh look werent you recnetly in a nut hosue for being a nut case my throats ratehr broken thats crimainl eevidence ,yer i go tha far to get the job done.she lieks to lay her elbow with her full wiegth on the throat adams apple,so it cracks ,mine cracked isnt it sylvia.sas uniforms werent they

[KabinPhever]

There is not that much patience on the whole force combined. And the guy trying to commit suicide...he's dead too. I once saw (7) seven cars of NOPD all with weapons drown and pointed at a woman with a 357 under her chin threatening suicide at a gas pump no less and the officers were yelling " Put down the gun or we will shoot". Which proves once again that there is nothing common about common sense.

[wauquelin]

At a fucken gas pump? You call that common sense? I guess she'd be taking some pigs out with her when the whole block blew up. Bullshit.

[KabinPhever]

Aw man! That is such a crock! Back to reality. The man with the knife is a dead man with or without the knife. It makes sense that the actors ARE the police because it's bias.

[enigmedic]

The actors in this video are New Orleans policemen and their families. "Paul" is Officer Paul Oestringer Jr., assigned to HOD, the House of Detention. "Lucy" is Elvina Oestringer, his wife. Their children are in the stairwell:

Paul Oestringer III- teen boy in striped shirt

Sylvia Oestringer Gaudet- teen girl standing in stairwell in white

Yvonne Oestringer Bosarge- infant in stairwell

The Sergeant in the video acting as the negotiator is Sgt. William Dudenheffer, Paul's NOPD partner.

[Latopla]

Right around 17:00...the cop is stroking his hair and patting him to calm him down...I'm pretty sure that such contact would never happen...or be considered inappropriate. Also...the way that when he resists walking forwards they reassure him and ask if he is all right to keep going...that doesn't happen at all. They just drag you and keep walking.

[logik316]

@Latopla

This video probably presents ideal scenarios that rarely happened for real. But in those days, a guy could give another guy a warm pat on the arm without being thought of as unprofessional, chummy (or gay). Nowadays, "officiousness" is the rule for police officers.

[ColonelFleet]

wow....you can't even have a smoke these days......

[ronaldreika]

momentary lapse of reason can b delt with a listening ear. drug or alcohol cases r much more complicated & can go either way as I found out. i don't regret at least trying to demonstrate some compassion towards an unstable person, it's probably what they never get.

kind words will strip the angry person of justification of acting out on their anger

[MrSpieldose]

They just shoot them up here when they can get away with it.

[updownjunkie]

Wow. They need to show this video to the police forces of today. Why do they seem more enlightened in the 60's. Weird.

[DavidRaymondAmos1]

interesting

[Demmwit]

I expected this one to be a lot more insensitive. That Sergeant is possibly the best cop ever in one of these films...

[oiyabastard]

haha ur weak u think yer core? pussy there are way more core than u look up lyrics to i killed mommy with my automatic  by dayglo abortions

[ColonelFleet]

sent to jail?............I was taken to an ER for a psych evaluation, and a 72 hour hold.......

[berner]

Form 1?

[ColonelFleet]

sorry, what do you mean?...."from 1"?.......

[berner]

Ah, sorry about that, thought you might be from Canada. In Canada when people enter into the hospital suffering from psychological problems, the doctor asses them and if he/she feels that the person is a danger to themselves or others, then the doctor puts them on what's known as a "Form 1", which is a legal peice of paperwork that says that for 72 hours, the patient is under the care of the hospital and cannot leave hospital property. It let's the doc figure out what they're gonna do with them.

[ColonelFleet]

ahh.....i see. raised in the USA......

[djokacak]

Yes, he was totally mental!

[kub73158]

Every person that has lived has had some degree of mental illness, except Jesus Christ.

[ReconB329]

No, I think you have it backwards....

In those days, there were no tasers, and less restrictions on use of force concerning law enforcement. Instead of getting tased, you got a big wooden baton across the face if you were non compliant.

I think todays society is a much gentler time. Remember, this is just a training video.

[medmatic]

"Booked for Safe Keeping"? "Prevetion Detention" is a violation of the geneva convention. Please go to Yahoo and type in "Horrible Truth About Psychiatric Drugs" to see a research paper exposing these drugs. Also so the search "Documented Proof Psychiatric Drugs Shorten Lifespan". Be sure to include the quotes. These drugs destroy fertility and libido and cause impotence and extream disphoria and obesity. The promote suicide and violence not prevent it.

[meddetect10]

You want to take one of these dudes home and take care of them yourself?

[jeanmartinolich]

@medmatic While all that you say is true about the meds, this is NOT any violation of human rights. The police had to do something to protect the man & his mother. The worse thing is that he is betrayed once he gets to jail instead of to a hospital. If he gets to a hospital, that is where the human rights issue begins if forced meds are used. Methods of helping people heal w/out meds exists, but they take time & kind patient people like the policmen. It's all about Big Pharma now..., not people.

[imnazhole]

Looking on line researching for an essay question in my police psychology course and thought i should check this out, and it is really good. Thanks for posting this.

[rosaryfilms]

imnazhole, you are welcome!

[dananjoeysmom]

I am a crisis intervention trainer, and served on a team as a mental health professional who would go out with deputies. This is great!! Anyway I could get a copy??? Thanks!

[rosaryfilms]

dananjoeysmom, I have sent you a private e-mail. Thanks!

[Polivegirl17]

Could you help me? When ever I get mad, i get really agressive and I hurt my family. I am in counciling and I would like some help from you if that is ok?.

[Polivegirl17]

I Have suicidal thoughts and I would like some advice on who could help me

[jamesarongray]

Tell your doctor ASAP! I have depression and i told my doctor, so don't worry about telling them... U may have to shop around for a good doctor though... it took me 3 doctors to fine the right one. Also tell someone close to you who isn't an idiot and will help and support u.

[TheSirCommunity]

Note how the police dont pull guns - oh good police times :D

[lysel3]

Note also, how the police are in shape? ... they ran up the flights of stairs --No elevator! ;) LOL

Also, no "SWAT" team ... they delay and take some time to come up with a plan; no quick fixes.

Also, the officers know the people by name, using a first name basis, to try to connect to the disturbed person.

In today's world, they shoot first, ask questions later -- or TASE the person till they die!

Oh to go back to a simpler, gentler time!

[Blarson11]

This looks like Dragnet the lost episodes.

[PostalPistolPortal]

In Bundaberg, Queensland, Australia, the police (and local government) DON'T deal with the mentally ill or criminally insane. A known abusive sociopath has bashed up a woman and stolen her child and the police haven't done anything for over six months except "investigate" all her endless fictions against everyone she knows of.

What the hell is wrong with this planet?

Seriously.

[Ken2234]

"handcuffs should be avoided" to bad its not like that these days. thats the first thing they pull out in these situations

[SnarkLicker]

Police are trained in how to treat a depressed person in such a way that will cause the depressed person to commit suicide the second he or she is out of police custody (isolation, verbal abuse, stress positioning). Criminals are treated better because they have rights. A mentally ill person who has committed no crime has no rights while in police custody.

[pathoplastic]

too true!

[rosaryfilms]

secretcheef, thank you!

[DemonosZXZ]

wow facism and misunderstanding keeps on rolling

[Easyaccount]

dude what are you talking about? This video was filmed during a time when homosexuality was still concidered an extreme mental illness. I'd say this was very progressive. + all the police officers were kind, helpful and generally at the very least acted understanding.

[EyeLikeChicken]

if you want to smoke in a jail now it'll cost you an arm and a leg

[deanage69]

LOL - 00:18 "...in the street, a white female is raving..."

Police probably get he same calls today, it just means something way different. LMAO.

[Joeyg143]

interesting how they didn't know what smoking did to you back then

[jebustheone]

Once upon a time you could buy cocaine in Harrods.

[ChoofMonster]

Psychiatric patients are (more often than not) heavy smokers and consumers of coffee. But a lit cigarette is an easy way to self-harm, especially so soon after a suicide attempt.

I believe our prisons in Australia are all smoke-free now, at least indoors - workplace safety laws trump the "right" to smoke.

[ChoofMonster]

These days, closed-circuit cameras monitor all prisoners, especially those at risk of self-harm.

With the recent methamphetamine 'epidemic', it is getting harder to determine if a patient is having a genuine psychiatric episode or is in a drug-induced psychosis. As the video points out, most patients are non-violent.

The "retarded" child would today be able to access many support services unavailable at the time.