NFL Draft: Booms & Busts

[tthomaselli2]

2:11.; Couldn't have said it, better.

[tthomaselli2]

2:10.; Couldn't have said it, better.

[tthomaselli2]

"Throw the damn ball!".; Couldn't have said it, better.

[Whiteboye667]

good analysis how are brady quin jamarcuss russel working out?

[Nate2148]

THROW THE DAM BALL.!!!!!!!

[sportsguru98]

Leaf,Couch,Mirer, and Russell bust

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[89Ryanhoward]

I rather draft a defensive lineman than a offensive lineman because defense wins championships. and defensive lineman is more important than offensive

[dallascowboystar2012]

@89Ryanhoward tell a qb that lol

[aznlonelyheart]

@89Ryanhoward u dont give ur qb protection u cant score points, doesnt matter how great ur defense is if ur offense cant score, u need a great O-line to protect ur qb and allow u to get a good running game going and have time to pass, an avg defensive line can still get by if the opposing offense sucks, obviously both are important but one good DE can open it up for everyone else, u have even one bad offensive lineman and ur qb and rb is toast in the backfield

[89Ryanhoward]

what about reggie bush, is not really living up to his potential

[Dbn713]

@89Ryanhoward a punt return(s) in the 09 season helped a team win who eventually won a SB that same year

[dghansen85]

That preemptive caller? 100% right.

[kylepicha21]

JaMarcus Russel..... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[CinemaddictsUnanon]

Yep, JaMarcus Russel was a REAL boom

[Airman241]

can you believe there actually was a debate about who would be better Manning or Leaf in 1998 d raft some so called experts thought Leaf would be the better pro

[HubbDeezy]

Culpepper was the better overall quarterback, better arm, more accurate, and more mobile. But given health I would rather have McNabb on my team

[ZegetaX1]

How is Michael Westbrook (4th overall) a bigger bust than Ki-Jana Carter

[Amills11]

Phil Simms sounds like an arrogant ass in this. Basically all he says is taller QB's are the best. This mentality is what makes teams draft people like Jamarcus Russel. I guess its a good thing Drew Brees sucks. The "it" factor exists its the guy who will continue to work hard after he gets his pay day and will actually spend learning the playbook.

[TullahomaKing]

@Amills11 We learned that with Ryan Leaf

[packerfan748]

chris sims logic - tall players are good like jamarcus russel - fail!

[edvhou812]

Erwin's and Simms' faces just say, "Who the fuck is this kid? Isn't he suppose to be getting us coffee?"

[bpricematrix]

1999 was a QB bust year 

[CoolerKing37]

@bpricematrix Pretty much. McNabb was the only great QB to come out that year (and to a lesser extent Daunte Culpepper).

[HubbDeezy]

@CoolerKing37 Culpepper was the best QB behind Peyton in the early 2000's, if it weren't for his knee injury he woud have went on to have continued success. His peak years were far and away better than Donovan. Aaron Brooks had some decent years in NO with some shoddy teams as wel

[CoolerKing37]

@HubbDeezy Statistically, i suppose you could argue he's better.

[myfriendscool6793]

JaMarcus Russell & Brady Quinn = Bust

Darrelle Revis Calvin Johnson AP Joe Thomas = Super Star

[alexhp91]

@myfriendscool6793 is "AP" supposed to mean adrian peterson? I think you mean "AD"

[blaaket123]

@myfriendscool6793 Everyone knew Calvin Johnson was going to be a stud.

[alec147123]

no doubt about it Ryan Leaf is and will always be the biggest draft bust of all time

[markrabo]

@alec147123 Agreed! The Chargers had to trade a future #1 pick to get Leaf and he had a worse TD/INT ratio than Russell (also, that #1 pick turned out to be WR David Boston).

[RaNdY04gt]

@markrabo

yeah but leaf was not a drafted number 1.

[jlee3487]

how about them Saints Phil Simms?..you and your son suck, pussy..so obvious you bet/rooting for the colts..bitch

[califinn]

Hey Phil, HOPE DON'T WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.

[shortis1989]

phil must be watching this and say: how stupid was I? listen wht he says about russell

[JBMAC92082]

aint that guy in the middle victor from young and the restless??lol

[MrHrana1]

Jamarcus Russell will be added to the list of busts if he does not start producing soon.

[pootcacti05]

@MrHrana1 I think he has been added to that list a while back ago

[tallsmile28]

Jamarcus put himself behind the 8 ball by holding out his rookie year.

[packr72]

really phil, cause the mental part of the game is very important. jamarcus has a great arm but sucks,

[senjahcore]

@packr72 Jamarcus is a tough case: The Raiders suck b/c they have him. He sucks b/c he's on the Raiders. Bad player + Bad Team= TV blackouts.

I think he'll get better after he's cut, signs somewhere else and gets a second go-around. Happens fairly frequently w/ young QBs. But he is a true fatass sloth, I agree

[ohgrx]

How bout Ron Dayne drafted by the Giants out of Wisconsin. Heisman trophy winner, set Big 10 and NCAA rushing records. Got to the Giants and sat on the bench his entire career. I guess that is more of a team not wanting to invest the time in a player rather than the player not living up to expectations.

[steve10753]

The Giants didn't sit Ron Dayne, he did it to himself! Dayne was a big back, the type that should keep his feet moving and run up the middle, but everytime he got handed the ball he would stop his feet and dance around. He also struggled to keep his weight down, and often looked more like a fullback. Eventually Tiki won the starting job and Dayne was let go. Dayne never performed like a number one pick anywhere else, so it's not the Giants fault, it's Dayne's!

[senjahcore]

@ohgrx No, Dayne just sucked. No speed, no quickness. Just ran into the line and fell down on each play. I thought he was terrible in college, too, just too big to be tackled at that level. Just a trash RB in all aspects aside from size

[Ruderidge]

Leaf was bust because its like what they talked about on this video. A lot of money and trades went into getting Leaf and he gave them nothing in return but a career rating of 50... So basically large investment + loss in return = Bust

It would be like investing millions on a Presidental canidate and he doesn't make it to the primary.

[Volcomrider2207]

J. Russel is worser the Windows...

[TheSlothook]

Why is ryan leaf considered the worst bust? Is it just because peyton manning went first? I feel thats unfair.

[ddksiels]

no because od all of them he had the highest expetations

[TheSlothook]

I dont know if i buy that. Busts always get treated diff. Some busts like leaf and russell get torched by the media, but tim coach, kijana carter, courtney brown, david carr, and alex smith all escape the criticism. I think it has to do with circumstance more than just being a bust. Being a number 1 overall has a ton of expectations that come with it regardless of hype.

[nintendofan50]

lol Brady Quinn and Russel = Busts

[Ganstadog11]

Al Davis is the owner of the raiders

[TheCompulsionToKill]

honestly is russell really as bad as ppl say he is. i mean he wasnt really even hyped that much in college until end of his junior and senior year. if u watch him in college he also makes plenty of mental errors continuously which shoulda been a sign

[Y2JTO]

If they due something smart and hire a new president and fire Al Davis, but can't because he's the majority owner and the franchise can't get rid off him soon. If they don't get rid of him, the fans will ask for Davis's head on a stake. The Raiders have a passionate fanbase and I feel for them. Get rid of Al Davis and Cable and put in Shanahan as head coach and hire Bill Cowher as majority owner.

[Y2JTO]

Akili Smith should've gain more experience, if he stayed in college, maybe he could've been Pro Bowler, but he's too old to rewrite that mistake.

[PhillyChzStk2012]

why the fuck is that douchebag even putting McNabb in the same sentence as Tim Couch, Akili Smith and Cade McKnown?! Are you fuckin kidding me? "not as bad" wow fuck you analyst faggot

[broederkundoe]

Jamarcus russel is horrible and his window of opportunity is gone now. Doc G will take over as starter.

[Y2JTO]

He just needs to grow up and work on accuracy, and when does that, this guy will be very good.

[broederkundoe]

I hear you , but how much time will you give this guy to "grow up". He doesn't seem to be doing anything different from before. Are you gonna stick with this guy, hoping he will get better, while your organisation is falling apart. Or are you gonna give someone else a chance? I would opt for the latter.

[Y2JTO]

What are you talking about, the real problem is Al Davis. He's too senile and needs to stop taking bad prospects, JaMarcus was his first real good pick in a long time, but with no help, how can JaMarcus develop, plus their 2-14 season, the defense was 3rd, the offense was last. Randy Moss can also be blamed for not helping the team due to him not really trying at all in Oakland. The Vikes and Raiders both got royally screwed in that trade. The Raiders got a lazy player, and the Vikes busts.

[broederkundoe]

Sure there's some things that you cannot put on the player. In this case however, I've seen little , on or off the field that would make me think that he would perform well under better conditions. He isnt the 1st nor last QB that starts in an underperforming team. I'm not looking for him to carry the team, I'm looking for glimpses of hope...

[NAKEDNESSify]

phil have forgot about that awful seed you spit out ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh chris sims

[crookedlettaz11]

jamarcus still has time, he can rewrite his legacy still...but he's hideously overweight and he couldn't hit an office building if he was standing in the entrance

[xxJuBxx]

Joe Thomas safe pick and Jamarcus the risky pick.... who would've known that Joe Thomas wud be a top 3 o-lineman and Jamarcus would be the biggest a joke to date.

[Omnis2]

JaMarcus Russell... lol. Talk about a bust.

[WissMongler]

at least he wasnt as bad as LEAF lol

[Kev2thebev]

@Omnis2 ahah Tell Me Bout It!

[AtTheDriveBy]

@Omnis2 Ryan Leaf > Jamarcus Russell in terms of bigger bust

[soccerholden13]

@AtTheDriveBy while leaf may have been the worse player the fact that Russell was a #1 overall pick makes him the bigger bust IMO

[broseph138]

@Omnis2 purple drank!

[tthomaselli2]

@Omnis2

Ryan Leaf... 'The Biggest NFL Draft Bust Of All Time', supposedly.; This guy makes JaMarcus Russell look like Kyle Orton, or, Jay Cutler.

[linkinpark4ever0]

fuck i hate pat kirwan with a passion!!! hes suck a douche bag

[jelanimadman]

akili smith had a 9 on the wonderkic. the bengals are terrible at drafting.

[thizhypy3000]

Tim Couch and Ryan Leaf are the worst of all time LMFAO

[N3STS]

meh, Leaf is a real bust though. Couch just ended up in very horrible team to begin with, Leaf was in a reasonable team. Another big bust in my mind was David Carr. You could argue that the QB class of 2002 was a deja vu of the QB class of 1999.

[thizhypy3000]

we forgot Joey Harrington and Byron Leftwich lol

[N3STS]

at least Byron is a number is num. 1 in his team (jags). Joey is a lost hope. lol

[thizhypy3000]

byron hasnt been a Jag for 2 seasons now

he was a backup in ATL and now hes a back up in Tampa

[tweakrenegade]

harrington is not a bust... and leftswitch isnt either...

[imadesiboy1993]

some peole i have talken too said akili smith was someone lotta people liked

[Brookssee821]

Phil Simms seems very intelligent.

[popydude]

well he is a hof qb he knows his stuff

[Coganboy]

IMO

Quarterbacks, a lot of the time, don't get more talent behind them in later drafts. McNabb had a great defense and a good line. What did Couch have?

[ripperduck]

You know what's funny is we go on and on about QB's, primarily because they get the most press, we are told how important they are, and we are told 7/24/365. But no one here is jamming OL's, no one here has said so and so, outside of Mandrich, is a bust, and the only reason we jam on Mandrich was the press he got. Fans are a funny bunch. For the most part they don't know much about the sport, but think they do because they watch tv alot. But OL is where it all starts.

[2d40]

Listen up Viking fans @ 1:20. Already talking superbowl.

[CAMPkillYOURself7]

fucking cade macnown, damn everyone thought he was going to be so good. horrible, worst in bears history, one of the worst

[MrRoboto81]

The bears haven't had any luck at QB since nagurski

[hawtinandclarke]

and here's the other thing bout phil simms, the stats weren't there, but everyone says "oh he was a leader, and he had a quality" Maybe the nfl owners and GM's should'veturned their TV's off when ur name came up {hil u fuckin leach!!

[hawtinandclarke]

if phil simms didnt have the team he did, he would be just like his son, a very shit QB

[dawgfan3485]

yes he is, i was just trying to make a point.haha he was dominate at Florida, NFL, not so much.

[NastyKobra]

And Popeworshiper com'on man hes never lead the team to the playoff's

more than once are you kiddin me?

He was drafted in 2006, the Titans were 0-6 or or somthing and he took them to an 8-8 record [No playoff's that year] 2007 they went 10-6 lost to chargers in playoff's that year. This year Kerry Collins tok em to the playoff's with a 13-3

Vince only took em once dude.

[NastyKobra]

No people cant call Vince Young a draft bust but this year clearly showed he's not cut out to be a starting QB. I mean com'on He started off behind Kerry Collins then he got the Job, went 8-8 then got hurt then Kerry came along again then Vince was being a bitch and was running away

and then wanted to commit suicide haha hes not a starter he cant handle the presssure but he's not a bust he just needs better mentoring. To Bad McNair retired he could have tought Vince sooooooo much more.

[Zeropip]

WHAAAAT. Vince young wasn't being a bitch. he came back.

[Dud512]

I completeley agree

[Dud512]

Where is David Carr on this list?

[bschriner]

You gotta give Carr a break for being on an expansion team.

[Dud512]

I'm not giving him nothin because if thats the case, then why aint he on the sorry team...

[bschriner]

Notice the guys on this list are gone in a year or less and have a handful of starts. Carr started 75 games in 5 years and played well considering they had a terrible O-line, no running game and one decent WR who was a rookie his 3rd year. No QB would have made much of a difference there. They were an expansion team, which means their roster is all toss aways from other teams and rookies. You can't blame Carr for the failings of an expansion team if you know the game.

[Dud512]

they are all professionals so it don't matter

[3049190]

i agree u could put peyton mannoig there or tom brady and they would have goten crushed

[Sirscorps]

I thought Carr would've been great, maybe he's too nice, but it was probably the bad OL and lack of ground. Hopefully sitting behind Manning (baby) will help, and I hope he gets to start for a team.  I knew Reggie Bush was gonna be a bust. PAC 10 doesn't have great D. I'ts laughable that an undrafted RB shares the backfield w/him. Yet i've never heard him called a "bust", just a "disappointment." Bush isn't that good.

[vtecjoc123]

ok how is vince young a freakin bust r u retarted da titans didnt evean start 1 he was behind OVER RATED qb kerry collins vince young cud be good if titans give him a chance again

[Dud512]

he does not have the right character of a NFL QB........he is not even starting yet he is demanding a trade?

[dawgfan3485]

Agreed, and if he was good he would be starting over Collins. Young has had about the same career as Derrick Harvey has had. Who is that you ask? My point exactly.

[Dud512]

and another thig when he was drafted who was hyped as the better QB? Matt Leinart

[dawgfan3485]

Exactly

[tmcfootball96]

Defensive Lineman don't usually have a breakout season in their first season!!

For example, Texans DE Mario Williams had a only 4.5 sacks in his rookie, but the next 2 seasons he average 13 sacks!!

[dawgfan3485]

Your forgetting the fact that Williams also had a toe injury for almost 3/4 of the season. Your also not even seeing the point I was trying to prove here, That Young Isnt a good pro, thats all im trying to say. I used Harvey as a simple example. Would you rather me use ted Ginn jr.? lol

[thatguywiththecodes]

Well this was made in 2007 so they didn't see that coming did they?

[Speegs23]

Yep, I was at that draft and i must honestly admit I thought it was a bad pick, i thought Reggie Bush or Vince Young would be their guy, in retrospect Williams and jay Cutler would've been the two best picks, Houston got Williams. Cutler is more mature (despite his Broncos tantrum) than leinhart or Young.

[Dud512]

and where is david carr and joey harrington on this list

[absOFkryptonium]

one that i'd add to the list is Vince Young. i always thought of him as a product of his environment at Texas and he has fallen off after his one good rookie season in the pros. he isn't much of a pocket passer and hasn't really added on to it since. i guess we'll see once he comes back what he really has to offer.

[Dud512]

i completely agree...Vince Young SUCKS

[POPEWORSHIPER]

Vince Young SUCKS?

[Dud512]

yes........how can he be this good quarterback on the bench behind kerry collins?.....He wasn't even the best QB when he was in college

[POPEWORSHIPER]

I never said he was the best, but he HAS led the team to the playoffs more than once and the only thing keeping him from doing it again is his mental illness.

[Dud512]

and that is a huge thing

[POPEWORSHIPER]

It IS a huge thing, but it's NOT the same thing as the lack of talent that keeps every other college star from succeeding in the nfl...and becoming a "bust." Even if Vince Young never plays again, he has tasted more success in the nfl than MOST players do.

[Dud512]

you have a point but he was hyped as the QB better than Steve McNair for this franchise and so far it hasn't panned out

[josephNYY2]

Lets throw Jamarcus Russell and Matt Lienart in that list also!

[reile567]

add reggie bush to that list. The guy can't run between the tackles and a person drafted # 2 overall should be a feature back. Dont give me that excuse he is too little. warrick dunn is 5'8 183 and is over 10,000 yards rushing in his career. little darren sproles 5'6 185...run between tackle. There is no excuse reggie bush at 5'10 203.

[Frecko427]

bust yea i mean just before his injury he led the league in touchdowns and receptions till week 10 even though he only played 7 games

[ravenking48]

Don't forget Maurice Jones Drew, 5'6 225 can run between the tackles and run on sweeps. To many people judge talent based off of popularity without carefully examining their true playing ability. And your right Reggie Bush is a perfect example.

[ladygagaspenis]

@reile567 yeah imagine how good the saints would be if reggie bush turned out as good as everybody thought he would.

[ilikeike91]

well look at matt ryan

he started immediatly and they were expected to be one of the worst teams in the league yet they ended up at the top of the league

[waterboy51]

I don't consider Reggie Bush a bust because he has gotten better over the last few years. He'll never be the back of the decade like he was supposed to be, but he can be a solid punt returner in the near future.

[RevthePharaoh]

2me stafford is gonna be a bust so he is not worth my #1 first round pick

[toepedi]

Where's Chris Simms. His son is a bust!

[BigBlackzzx]

another ATL hater. damn shame

[mainza1992]

there's no way any one in there right mind should be comparing stats at the college level compared to the pro's

[masterfreestyler187]

matt ryan will be a bust next year

[blazinspeed95]

bullshit kid. look at that 11-5 record, second rookie qb to ever throw for over 3000 yards. the other was peyton manning. look how peyton turned out

[masterfreestyler187]

u'll see.

[waterboy51]

Matt Ryan's an awesome quarterback, but he'll have a tougher schedule next year and he lost his best Offensive Lineman due to retirement. I still think he'll do good, but not as good as this year.

GO FALCONS!

[blazinspeed95]

they draft has a lot of OL talent, and Free Agency still has some oldy but goodys out there (Orlando Pace)

Falcons all the way in a few years!

[waterboy51]

You have a good point, but I don't think the Falcons need an offensive lineman. They drafted one just last year (Sam Baker). I'm hoping they either pick up Jason Taylor or draft an outside linebacker/defensive end. But, like I said, you do have a point, Orlando Pace would look great in a Falcon uniform in his last few years.

[Jubel06]

I think he'll do better. He will win a ring if he keeps going at his rate. He gets a mulligan for that playoffs game vs the Cards. He was going up against a tenacious D and a veteran, HIGHLY underrated QB. If Atlanta continues to build around him, he will win the big one.

[HOOTIEandROCKY]

see my video TIM COUCH IS NOT A BUST post a comment

[streetLAkings]

i wonder how simms feels having a kid who should be on this list and give him a few years Jamarcus russel will be up there also they talk about peyton going out there and starting on a bad team manning is a hall of famer

[Sylenz404]

intangibles don't count? Matt Ryan? Tom Brady...Peyton Manning...riiiight

[MASSIVE100]

mcnabb is no bust

[jbtheleader]

he wasnt talking about donavan mcnabb.

[Goodykos]

I believe the reason why Phil Simms is not in the NFL Hall of Fame, is because of these top 10 reasons 10. He is stupid and tries to talk loud to cover it up. 9. He sucked. 8. Jeff Hostetler 7. His son sucks 6. He is too opinionated 5. He had beef with Lawrence Taylot 4. Crowned the Patriots as the Best Team ever, even though they lost the Super Bowl to an Underdog!! LOL Patriots Suck!! 3. He is an aweful announcer 2. He is a hater 1. He said he was going to Disney World and probably did not

[evan1170]

phil simms is a retard, people become busts because their great physical abilty overshadows their bad leadership, attidude, etc, but with only some exeptions. look at joe montana, tom brady, or even jerry rice. jerry rice had a 4.5 40 time, but on the field he was the fastest man.

[gamble777888]

Phill Simms makes a TERRIBLE point. How can you disregard intangibles when picking a QB? Ryan Leaf had ALL the physical tools to be one of the greatest QBs of all time but Payton Manning, the QB with the greater leadership qualities, turned into the star. Russel is another example of a QB with ALL the physical tools and yet looks like he is well on his way to being a bust. Instead Matt Ryan the QB that had the "it" quality but the questionable "tools" is lighting up the league in his first year

[dddevin69]

at 1st I didn't understand why all the hate for Phill Simms. after watching this...I understand. He is a moron if he thought Akili Smith was going to be good in the NFL. I remember that 99 NFL draft and I had Ricky Williams # 1 and Tim Couch as the # 1 qb, and Daunte Culpepper as the 2nd best qb. Now, obviously Mccabb has been the best of that class, but Akili Smith...that's bad. Akili didn't start long enough to warrant such a high pick.

[atron8486]

Chris Simms sucks too

[prodiptowahab]

lols my eagles got mcnabb instead of couch in the 99 draft. the browns had a choice between cullpepper, mcnabb and couch and they picked couch. wat douchbags

[flips220]

mcnabb isn't that great. couch probably could have had the same career mcnabb has had if he went to philly instead of cleveland. maybe. who knows. if mcnabb went to that shitty cleveland team instead, he wouldn't be around today either. couch just got fucked. haha.

[MicDizzle2]

Couch wasn't a bad QB,he just had an awfull expansion team around him.

[nmantor]

the texans dropping reggie bush, thats a move that got me out of my seat...

[Goodykos]

However, they got one of the greatest defensive linemen. Bush is a BUST!!

[nmantor]

damn -31 lol

[HavinSetzEllYuh]

how is bush a bust, he lead his team to the playoffs his rookie year, he had 9 touchdowns before he got hurt this year, he was on past for 16+ touchdowns this yearrr...Mario is great but Bush isnt a bust that was dumb, you probably jus dont like him thats why

[Goodykos]

Lets see, he is yet to live up to his great stature. He has not even broken 1,000 yards yet!! BUST!!!

[HavinSetzEllYuh]

ok he hasnt rushed 4 1,000 yds, what about his all purpose yards, what about his punt returns, how about all da catches he gets...he isnt da best running bak in da league but he is one of the best all purpose backs in da league hands down..

[ColoradoTypewriter]

You're an idiot, He didn't lead his team to the playoffs, Drew Brees did. Bush has averaged 3.7 YPC his career. He hasn't had more than 581 yards in his career. He's a bust.

[G4Spounge]

He didn't have more than 581 yards rushing in his career. In terms of total yardage he's had over a thousand a season. The main problem with Reggie is that he's soft. Every year he gets beat up and sent to the sidelines. Not a good thing for a running back.

[ColoradoTypewriter]

The main problem is that he cannot run between the tackles. Reggie will always be a solid back like Kevin Faulk of the Pats, most likely better, but he will never be a feature back.

[waterboy51]

To Colorado Typewriter: Give Reggie Bush some more time before you consider him a bust. Sure he'll never be the back people expected him to be, but he isn't an all-down back either. If he doesn't get hurt, I bet in the next few years he'll be a solid all-purpose back, and an average punt returner.

[MikeBannShow]

he is a bust did u see the numbers he put up at usc he was great now he hasn't even been close to those number in the nfl

[HavinSetzEllYuh]

ok jus cuz he didnt put up da numbers he had in college doesnt mean he is a bust..he lead his team in receptions 2 years in a row (not this year cuz he had that injury) he scored every single game this year before he got hurt, he returned 2 punts vs da vikings almost 3 before he tripped ova nothin..he is not a bust...

[CelebrityHotTub]

Best Players = Worst Teams. How hard to develop into that star when they're probably going to have poor coaching and teammates?

[blazinspeed95]

Yeah, way to much pressure on some of these players to come in and just completely turn it all around.

[RedRooster700]

Agreed.

That's why the shouldn't start immediatly. They should play backup for a year.

That's what i think they should do with Jamarcus Russell. Start Jeff Garcia and let him learn from a veteran.

[Console818]

this is russells third year tho. if hes not ready by now hell never be

[absOFkryptonium]

it's really only Russells second year though considering how long it took him to sign and he wasn't practicing during that period. and, like they said in the video, his team stinks. he has a tight end being his leading receiver and the only other possibly legit target is just a guy that can stretch the field in Higgins. i wouldn't label him as a bust yet.

[MusicCocktail]

Nice Discussion. Really worth watching it!!

lg Baris