I don't want a draft of any sort, but if there is one, why SHOULD it be male only? Some of the arguments here are sickening, as if people think their genitalia entitle them to be protected at the costs of less worthy male lives. Most military roles are non-combat, there's plenty else to do, so you can't even use physical differences as an excuse. Again though to make it clear, I'm against a draft of any sort, but also against the sense of entitlement here.
@JBlue761982 well, when you take a quick glance at it, I would say the same thing, but the truth is if we didn't get all the people to fight for our country from drafts, we would have alot less manpower, and probably lose more armed conflicts.
Most argue that women are in the military now, so...but there are other things and jobs at home that need to be done. Someone has to be at home, too. Just not an easy decision.
Selective service is state totaltarianism. I have no doubt woman "can perform" in combat but men or women who live in America should never have to put up with this.
Alot of people seem to be under the impression that people who are drafted are immediately thrown into a combat roll, that is simply not true. In fact, i think it was said that 95% of military work is NOT combat. So there is plenty else women could do in the army.
You can't cherry pick if you want to be considered equal.
Equality doesn't have to mean making women register for the Selective Service just like men. It can also mean ending the Selective Service for everybody.
There is no need for a military draft. There are enough citizens who want to help protect this country. There was no draft in the 1990s when the military was downsized.
An article from the New York Times in 1995 said, "President Clinton gave a grudging go-ahead today to closing or consolidating 105 military bases. The shutdowns, a consequence of the end of the cold war, are expected to save billions of Federal dollars but put tens of thousands of people out of work."
Hillary Clinton is the eldest of three and has two YOUNGER brothers. I think this is the reason why she is so powerful. We need more Hillarys and (Meryls, who is of the same birth order) don't you think? So if your first child happens to be a girl, and your second child a boy, then have a third child. Hopefully he is a boy.
Dodd is terrible at debating. He actually kind of answered the question and said things that could be used against him. He should have just bypassed the issue and talked about how he didn't support the draft.
I was replying to Bachelo2 in my last comment.. Isn't it illegal to threaten people over the internet? B2, please continue to take your medication. If you haven't been prescribed any, please seek psychiatric assistance soon.
I think if u want to be a pussy draft dodger or if you want to bitch if the draft is reinstated then you dont deserve your rights as an American. If you refuse to defend your country when you are asked to, then you dont deserve its freedoms. Im not in the military nor are any members of my family. Those who fought for our country in the past probably didnt want to go either but they went anyway and some died doing so. I would do the same to ensure this great country still stands for my children.
The fact that we are still talking this way- scares me. Think about this along racial lines, and you can see how humiliating it is that we are still debating whether or not women are capable of strength and courage and fortitude in the way that men are. This is fucking ridiculous, ..... Obama hits it.
i got another thing... you fags out there too need to be taught some national responsibility as well! the dems did the usual thing and insisted that your rights as a minority be decided by the majority and the nation spoke loud and clear.. no fag marriage!! but that doesn't mean you will be denied the great right and blessing of national service to this great country that doesn't really give a fuck about you!!
that's right being a chick is no excuse and the draft is coming! enjoy being universalized! yes we can yes we can yes we can!!! all americans 18-42 need to be forced to get off their lazy asses and do some hard work for nothing!! we need to beat some work into all these young punks today and espcially the women! let's not be sexist! they deserve to be beaten into shape as well!!
Its time to stick up for women and not allow ignorrant selfish politicians to feed us to the wolves we already are pushed aside...please stand up for us
I do not think that women should be required to sign up for the draft. For one, if everyone signs up for the draft, who's going to take care of your 3yr old son if mommy and daddy both die in a war? how devistating? The question is require not if women are able to serve of course they are but to Raise Children, More and More women are working full time now, and now they have to require to be in a draft? I think this country "requires" too much of women and not enough credit for what we do.
one thing, hillary is a piece of shit! she doesn't care about you! and how can all these morons up here say they are against the draft but say they think everyone needs to register for it???? yeah what kind of bullshit is that?? and dee if mommy and daddy die in war then the state will take good care of your child! that is what the dems want anyway!
it takes a village right?
and don't worry I'm not a republican either! I hate both parties and I can bash them both all day!
You don't even get it.. the thing here is equality. If men are required to sign up for it then WOMEN SHOULD TOO, since now we're all equal. Its completely unfair that women should get all the benefits of being a man but none of the downsides. blatant sexism
sciath what you don't get is that if or when obama gets elected you are going to be going away soon... into the military... and to me I don't think that is very fair because you don't look to me like you have what it takes to be fighting a war... but that is ok because you can just call it equality right?
they could always use you as a decoy! what double speak for these dems to say they are against the draft but oh yeah everyone should register for it! it's ok I used to be a dem too...
I never said I support a draft.. all Im saying is that if women are completely equal to men now its only fair they're required to sign up for the selective services as well.
sciath since you are not in support of the draft how about no one should have to register for it? instead of being so concerned for women's rights. how about being concerned for human rights. no register/no draft. good idea? don't you think? especially when there is a draft bill out there that rangel a democrat wants to push through and many democrats out there do support it and I don't trust that hillary and obama won't change their mind and support it down the road!
you see rangel wants to invade iran and north korea and other countries... he needs you and other americans to help out with that because he's certainly not going to do it himself!
you better give the idea of you being drafted a little more thought and start to really wonder if the democratic party is really any better than the republican? don't be so selfish there is more at stake than you marrying your boyfriend.
feminist? not me. if you want to label me something call my a constitutionalist.
most of the feminists and liberals want women to register for the draft. many of those butch girls out there could handle the military and they want all women to be all butch and lesbian because it suits them just fine.
Women should at least never be assigned to infantry roles. Artillery, tanks, but not frontline with rifles. It's a sad fact but simply aren't as strong as men, they won't be able to carry as ammo.
I also have some news for stupid anti-war liberal-democrats! and I'm against this war too! just not a liberal! if no one joined the military there wouldn't be a war! so when you are listening to your hillary and obama talk about wanting women to register for the draft and thinking oh how great they are... like the retard you may be... stop and think... wait... that only means more soldiers to fight wars with!! yep... that's right! thinking for yourself can be easy you know!
why don't the lying piece of shit democrats support real equal rights for women??? like allowing women to be rangers and hold any position in the military that a man can??
that I would support and I'm talking only about for women that volunteer to join!
I don't think any woman should be forced to join the military! yeah I know how sexist of me!!! really the dems just bullshit their flock away! and no I'm not a republican!!
I do see the evil in the dems though! I actually can think for myself
any women that found my post to be sexist or against equal rights should message me with what they think. I'd love to hear it.
I'm sure in dumbed down america there are some stupid women out there that think hey I want to be required to register for a draft so in the case of them bringing the draft back... I and all women will have to go to war without a choice duh!!! believe me I'd love to hear that if it's out there! oh and the democrats are lying they want to reinstate the draft! just wait!
Hey Y2YAY..I agree with you..I also think that women do a lot more than men now and here's just one other thing that we have to do and its BS! We dont get any recognition in this country at all we're only pushed away for the positive things like the "glass ceilling" but women want equal rights? Sign up for the draft...but you still wont get mens pay! Its unfair and im especially ashamed at hilliary for not sticking up for us!
a whole bunch of bullshit and it's sad that so many idiots eat it up! I don't think there should be a draft and I don't think women should be required to register for the draft or would be draft! any woman that takes offense to this and thinks that they are being cheated of any right here is a total moron! The only thing I would give to women is the individual right to join voluntarily and for them to hold any position they can prove themselves to hold! now that is what is best and fair to women
I heard some of these candidates say that they are against the draft, but that women should have to sign up for it. Are they serious? Hillary Clinton said that she doubts we would ever have to use the draft again. That is crazy. Our military is already stretched thin, but meanwhile, both major party presidential nominees have repeatedly called for new wars. Where are we going to get the troops for those wars at? I am against the draft, but the major party nominees are considering it.
I wonder if Barack Obama plans to go around to various colleges prior to the upcoming election expressing the thoughts that he expressed in this video.
"Everyone here is missing the big point. NO ONE should have to register for selective service! It is slavery, it is wrong, and it should be abolished. Period."
Yeah? By your logic, following traffic laws is "slavery" and "oppression". Like it or not, there's no where to go where everwy wittle thing is going to go the way your Anarchist beliefs would like to take you. Unless your Mussolini, Stalin, or Kim Jung, you can't just do whatever you want. Thats why, unlike animals, we have "society".
Everyone here is missing the big point. NO ONE should have to register for selective service! It is slavery, it is wrong, and it should be abolished. Period.
i dont care if women are in the military but they should be able to support our troops but NOT IN A COMBAT POSITION they dont have the same physical or emotional strenth not the be sexist but in lab test women are more emotional in war i want a bunch of tough dudes that wont drop down and cry when a mine or a bomb blows up its been provn that women cant deal with the horrors of war my friend who is now home almost died in iraq because the chick behind him started to cry wen sombody blew up
I know what you are talking about, but if men can whine about hot welding slag, what happens when they get shot, same thing, hot metal destroying flesh. Next point, what about gays in the military? Some gay men have feminine personalities and some are down right frail, yet they are fit for combat when a woman that goes through the same basic training isnt?
Senator Dodd he'd like "given the opportunity to serve their country in some way". That's a lie, what he wants is that they be force them to serve their government. It's not an opportunity if you're forced to take it.
insane democrats, women are not physically or emotionally the same as men! feminists need to stop lying to themselves. if girls want to volunteer let them, but to force them to register for the draft is simply ludicrous.
How much physical strength does it take to pull a trigger? If we are celebrate equality (not physical, not neurological, etc.... but political and civil equality) then we need to instate identical privileges as well as responsibility.
Grow up and look around in the real world. We aren't in the 1920's anymore, okay? Women are just as capable as men in ANYTHING they choose to do. Stop looking at gender and look at individual skills or assests.
The draft is not a choice for men.....women should be held to the same standards...across the board. In addition, men are just as capable as women at ANYTHING they choose to do. The only difference between men and women is the wo, right??
A woman can give birth, that requires tolerating intense pain, only a sexist bigot would insist women are not physically or emotionally capable of anything a man can do.
You simply do not comprehend ability until you see ten centimeters!
why are women not allowed in combat?? Ten centimeters?? which hurts more....giving birth or getting shot/limbs blown off, cut off. It should be manadtory for women to register for the draft and fight on the front lines...that's equality.
im not saying that women shouldnt vbe drafted they want to be treated egual they should be equal but i sure as shit dont want to serve with a bitch that will freeze up or puss out in combat you get killed by one i would prefer not to
Are women built as strong as men? The answer is no, it is not anatomically possible for a women to do 30 pull-ups 200 push-ups 200 sit-ups swim 1 mile and then run 1.5 miles. A standard requirement for the Navy SEALs. Thats not sexism, its fact. If there were women like that, the worlds strongest people wouldn't all be men.
Tell that to my little sister, she can do more than 50 pull ups, far more than 200 sit ups, cruches or whatever,she was a high school swim champion and runs 3-5 miles per day, oh, she is also a blackbelt in brazilian jiu jitsu and could probably kick your ass and she is 5ft 4" and 135 lbs. Also, go on to bodybuilding websites and although they arent as huge as some of the men, women can get diesel as hell, larger than most enlisted men. Dont tell me women cant get the job done.
im not talking about physicaly strong for everybody there are definatly some chicks that are stronger than men but the avarage marine male and female the male is stronger mentally than the female and i would rather have people who wont puss out, not saying that some guys can be bitches but i rather have men in the military than the women.
As a member of the armed service, I would say that your sister is an exception. Though I have never seen a man do 50 straight pullups. I would ask is she running at a 5 minute mile pace? With 80+ pounds on her back? Carry a 200+ lb shipmate whose wounded miles to safety? Thats what a SEAL must do. I have seen some extremely strong women where I am. They can be EOD, but rarely do they make it past the training. SEALs is a little harder than EOD.
Maybe my first comment was misread. They have to do all that in a time sequence. Each part is graded. Each event in it of itself is hard but nowhere near impossible. Size doesn't matter, most SEALs are 5'8" 175-185. They are lean, but pound for pound the strongest in the world. Diesel doesn't matter.
Serve the country building homes for the poor, Not killing people on their own land. I can see why its so easy to send our kids to their death, there not yours!!! FUCK YOU
1. 2 countries I know has a good woman as a president, it's a shame that one of them died- yes im talking about benazir bhutto(may she rest in peace)im not from her country but i agree that she's good,plus let's say you like obama (i like obama too ) without a woman obama won't be alive and you should gove women a chance to prove that they could rule a country too and i know that some people in this country (US)
ignorance from the word of god is not an excuse my dear, the message of the genesis already warned men not to trust the fate of the world to women, and women not to trust other women to.
equality is equality. If you want exceptions then that negates the fact of equality. We might as well have them stay at home, or give men the right to earn more money. Of course, no woman will every agree to this... well maybe they would agree if we gave them the choice to join the draft or do the dishes... who knows! but even giving them the option negates the fact of the equality they have strived to obtain.
If that's how ya wanna look at it, Clinton has been shootin at Obama just as much. By your logic, If that makes Obama horrible person, then that makes her a racist. If you've been following the election you'll see that Clinton instigated it.
Hillary has voted to pass some of the worst things the Bush administration has put out. The war included. If some of em passed, you wouldn't be cheering for her now.
The idea of a beautiful young woman being drafted against her will, and then having her body torn to shreds by bombs and bullets gives me an erection for some reason.
I think that it is truly brilliant that a mixed-raced, former Muslim man may soon be the next President of the second most important nation on the planet (after China, of course).
Hillary is the other obvious choice. She is in favour of helping immigrant communities and also black people and brown people a lot more than we currently do. That is the most important thing.
No.The practical matter is women have children and Someone needs to stay home at the homefront. If everyone is drafted, that means there is no choice. BTW only young men have to register for the draft. Should we draft grandpa or grandma too?
To imply that women have a civic duty to raise children is sexist, to imply that men should serve is sexist. If they need someone to stay at the home front they should let all the women who would be so dishonorable as to demand and enjoy the rights of this country without the responsibilities. The military doesn't want a draft anyway, draft soldiers perform horribly and are a hazard to the people around them.
Grandma and Grandpa aren't being drafted because they're old, and worthless. Young Women are just as strong as young men, women should be drafted to the war. There should be some compromise where either the father or the mother of the children stay home. Either should be welcome into any war.
Women are just as capable as men as militants, both physically and psychologically, so you're being misogynistic by even saying that. Why would you draft senior citizens? They're not able bodied or capable of fighting. Moron.
If a woman can run for an office that comes with the title of "Commander and chief" of the armed forces, then women can sure as hell be involved in the draft.
What happened to our "gut instinct" to protect them? Perhaps the same thing that happened to our "gut instinct" to knock them on the heads with clubs and drag them back to our caves. Sometimes "equity" is a scam. Wake up!
see above post by me, equality is equality. I have 5 sisters, and all of them would fight for their country and probably be more motivated than half the men I know in the armed forces, and no woman worth any value would have it any other way.
Hey buddy, this is 2008. Women have equal rights and benefits now. They are no longer the "protected sex", theyre EQUAL. Therefore they should pay the same costs men are required to in order to retain that status.
the thing you are not getting is that the dems want to bring back the draft and wage more wars and men and women will be forced to go! read rangels draft bill H.R. 393
just type that into google. men and women 18-42... that means you are going bye bye sciath... so enjoy being a democrat! obama has already threatened Iran and Pakistan! he is not change! he is a war monger like Bush! and if he gets in... he'll come out of the closet more on that you better believe it!
I really am very surprised that there are so many socialist. Hillary, well... shes an idiot, and the only way she will ever help anyone if she were to become president is to anyone on welfare. If you pay your taxes, by voting for her, your are screwing yourself.
the thing chris dodd said at the beginning was crazy. like people who create or work at jobs making products for americans don't serve their country. ouch. we dont want to be like sparta having everyone join the army at a certain age.
Well nobodies attacking you at the moment. Who do you think will? Mexico? Half their population is already inside why would they need to invade? Or is it those sneaky Canadians ("They look just like us!")? The fact is the US military could defend America with a small fraction of the troops they use to attack other countries. Hell make every male own an AK-47 or equivelent and you're uninvadable.
So you think it's OK to force people into work they don't like just so they can have a "shared experience"? Then why not force them into prostitution, since they haven't "shared" that "experience".
man, you dems are clueless;Hillary just proposed mandatory service
NOT just for military campaignes but for whatever the gov decides,I saw that movie "hitler youth corp" how bout the gov minds its own fking business.socialist pigs,all of them (fake coservatives included). Vote Ron Paul and get the gov out of your life.
I share your concern that a possibility exist of youth being manipulated by government like they are by church and deity. Hitler wanted the youth because of thier ease in following authority. It is however desireable to have playstation kids cleaning up the playground, mopping the toilets in public buildings, assisting the elderly, or anything else that addresses the selfish "Me" generation. Community service is now a required class credit in many highschools.
that's exactly the way hilter coverted the austrians to his cause,and to this day some of the youth consider him they're
"father" because of the conditioning.if are children don't know how to lend a helping hand becuase we failed as parents,why would the gov do any better?and if they did would'nt the child owe their alligance to the state not the family?
I listened close I did not hear that? I have several relatives that served in world war2 and the koren war. In there minds if we were honestly in danger everyone should serve.
"honestly in danger" gee,who decides that.hitler thought they were "honestly in danger by the Jewish kabal" i hear pundits say "people at home should sacrifice" that is such bs
if citizens were threatened with real danger they would shoot every m'fer that walked over the border.the reason ww2
is remembered so fondly is our citizen were helping their euro relatives italy,germans,brits escape tyranny.
Wow, I don't want to hear this bullshit politician game they're trying to play. When you check each candidate they all attempt to use emotional and social appeal to lure audiences toward them just like propaganda. All these candidates are here to steal votes, not win them. That is the difference between a great president, a good president, and a useless one. The last description will describe whoever wins the election from these candidates.
Hey, I served too, you betcha women can and should serve, I contributed just as much as my male counterparts! and it was the best time of my life...Go Navy!
Hillary will do just about anything to get votes. Did you notice how big her butt has gotten? She did this on purpose just to get the black vote away from Obama. (I like big butts and I cannot lie) lol
Although he does seem to get quite a bit excited, at least he stands up for what's right. Obama, Hilary, and Edwards aren't doing what's right for allowing gay marriage and single payer healthcare.
Yes he is old, but I wouldnt say crazy. More like candid and angry at the mess our country is. Id rather have that pissed off old man going to bat for me than any of those others tools.
If national service means that priviledged men and women need to teach in inner cities then sure..if it means we all need to go kill strangers for oil money then - HELL NO.
No, CityzenJane. It will STILL only be MEN that are REQUIRED to sacrifice life and limb. Women required to serve in combat? Don't make Kim Gandy laugh.
He was holding alot of documents that prosecuters of whitewater investigators wanted and then after months and alot missing, Hillary "FOUND" them in a closet in her personal living quarters!
So Hillary, when you come clean to all the American ppl WHO not what killed your errrr boyfriend, Vince Foster? Suicide my ASS! What was your personal sec. doing in his office stealing documents out before his body was found! See my channel, part 1 nad 2 about this mans death!
Why do I feel that Hillary is lying through her teeth when she says that she supports registering women?
TheLordmep 4 weeks ago
I don't want a draft of any sort, but if there is one, why SHOULD it be male only? Some of the arguments here are sickening, as if people think their genitalia entitle them to be protected at the costs of less worthy male lives. Most military roles are non-combat, there's plenty else to do, so you can't even use physical differences as an excuse. Again though to make it clear, I'm against a draft of any sort, but also against the sense of entitlement here.
tipoomaster 1 month ago
I think that neither men nor women should have to register....
JBlue761982 6 months ago
@JBlue761982 well, when you take a quick glance at it, I would say the same thing, but the truth is if we didn't get all the people to fight for our country from drafts, we would have alot less manpower, and probably lose more armed conflicts.
JBiswang 2 months ago
the draft is slavery. when the democraps trying and impose universal service is the day the uprising begins.
mizzoulibertarian 1 year ago
Most argue that women are in the military now, so...but there are other things and jobs at home that need to be done. Someone has to be at home, too. Just not an easy decision.
Leahcw 1 year ago
Could a Democrat please explain to this antiwar, libertarian, conservative how Gravel did not win? And don't you see through Edwards answer?
mizzoulibertarian 2 years ago
Selective service is state totaltarianism. I have no doubt woman "can perform" in combat but men or women who live in America should never have to put up with this.
mizzoulibertarian 2 years ago
Alot of people seem to be under the impression that people who are drafted are immediately thrown into a combat roll, that is simply not true. In fact, i think it was said that 95% of military work is NOT combat. So there is plenty else women could do in the army.
You can't cherry pick if you want to be considered equal.
tipoomaster 2 years ago
Equality doesn't have to mean making women register for the Selective Service just like men. It can also mean ending the Selective Service for everybody.
stan469 1 year ago 3
That would be the most ideal thing, of course. I meant that if it somehow became the only solution somehow.
tipoomaster 1 year ago
There is no need for a military draft. There are enough citizens who want to help protect this country. There was no draft in the 1990s when the military was downsized.
An article from the New York Times in 1995 said, "President Clinton gave a grudging go-ahead today to closing or consolidating 105 military bases. The shutdowns, a consequence of the end of the cold war, are expected to save billions of Federal dollars but put tens of thousands of people out of work."
stan469 1 year ago
Again, I'm merely speaking from the standpoint of if there was no other choice, from some crazy situation. I'm all for getting rid of it entirely.
tipoomaster 1 year ago
I see the point you are trying to make. I think I somewhat misunderstood where you were coming from, and I apologize for that.
stan469 1 year ago
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Hillary Clinton is the eldest of three and has two YOUNGER brothers. I think this is the reason why she is so powerful. We need more Hillarys and (Meryls, who is of the same birth order) don't you think? So if your first child happens to be a girl, and your second child a boy, then have a third child. Hopefully he is a boy.
DoWhaJo 2 years ago
Dodd is terrible at debating. He actually kind of answered the question and said things that could be used against him. He should have just bypassed the issue and talked about how he didn't support the draft.
mitchblatt1dot1com 2 years ago
No he should have answered honestly as he did. He is for reintroducing involuntary servitude which is unconstitutional.
mizzoulibertarian 2 years ago
Women shouldn't serve in the military at all.
CountArtha 2 years ago
Men and Women should be held to the same standards.
These candidates are right.
There have been women fighting in combat.
ehealthy222 2 years ago
I was replying to Bachelo2 in my last comment.. Isn't it illegal to threaten people over the internet? B2, please continue to take your medication. If you haven't been prescribed any, please seek psychiatric assistance soon.
myrna2381 2 years ago
no women should not. if i was drafted i would not want to be fighting along side a woman
vladradforpres5 2 years ago
I think if u want to be a pussy draft dodger or if you want to bitch if the draft is reinstated then you dont deserve your rights as an American. If you refuse to defend your country when you are asked to, then you dont deserve its freedoms. Im not in the military nor are any members of my family. Those who fought for our country in the past probably didnt want to go either but they went anyway and some died doing so. I would do the same to ensure this great country still stands for my children.
j0hnhaney 2 years ago
no, taking away people freedom to protect freedom will not work. we have second amendment so we don't have a need for a large army
tonylee1973 2 years ago
does it even matter about what gender is drafted? the awnser is NO!!! NOONE should be forced to go into war period
chicagorilla93 2 years ago
The draft is illegal and should stay illegal. Therefore, we shouldn't even have this issue. Nobody should be forced to fight in the military.
hogger129 2 years ago
The fact that we are still talking this way- scares me. Think about this along racial lines, and you can see how humiliating it is that we are still debating whether or not women are capable of strength and courage and fortitude in the way that men are. This is fucking ridiculous, ..... Obama hits it.
SarahLeeAnn 2 years ago
if you mother fuckers try to draft me it's not "them" I'm going to go to war with it's YOU I'm coming after and starting a war with.
FukinFructose 2 years ago
Ron Paul - 2012
Lingerfoot 3 years ago
i want this hillary back...
gohoya 3 years ago
i got another thing... you fags out there too need to be taught some national responsibility as well! the dems did the usual thing and insisted that your rights as a minority be decided by the majority and the nation spoke loud and clear.. no fag marriage!! but that doesn't mean you will be denied the great right and blessing of national service to this great country that doesn't really give a fuck about you!!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
One of the few good things about being a woman was that you did not have to fight the wars. Now they're taking that too.
myrna2381 3 years ago
that's right being a chick is no excuse and the draft is coming! enjoy being universalized! yes we can yes we can yes we can!!! all americans 18-42 need to be forced to get off their lazy asses and do some hard work for nothing!! we need to beat some work into all these young punks today and espcially the women! let's not be sexist! they deserve to be beaten into shape as well!!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
Die parasitic bitch! Your dirty little life is not special, and is not men duty to protect you.
Bachelo2 2 years ago
There is something seriously wrong with you, but the Father and Son will solve it in due time.
myrna2381 2 years ago
Its time to stick up for women and not allow ignorrant selfish politicians to feed us to the wolves we already are pushed aside...please stand up for us
Dee8108 3 years ago
I do not think that women should be required to sign up for the draft. For one, if everyone signs up for the draft, who's going to take care of your 3yr old son if mommy and daddy both die in a war? how devistating? The question is require not if women are able to serve of course they are but to Raise Children, More and More women are working full time now, and now they have to require to be in a draft? I think this country "requires" too much of women and not enough credit for what we do.
Dee8108 3 years ago
one thing, hillary is a piece of shit! she doesn't care about you! and how can all these morons up here say they are against the draft but say they think everyone needs to register for it???? yeah what kind of bullshit is that?? and dee if mommy and daddy die in war then the state will take good care of your child! that is what the dems want anyway!
it takes a village right?
and don't worry I'm not a republican either! I hate both parties and I can bash them both all day!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
You don't even get it.. the thing here is equality. If men are required to sign up for it then WOMEN SHOULD TOO, since now we're all equal. Its completely unfair that women should get all the benefits of being a man but none of the downsides. blatant sexism
sciath 3 years ago
sciath what you don't get is that if or when obama gets elected you are going to be going away soon... into the military... and to me I don't think that is very fair because you don't look to me like you have what it takes to be fighting a war... but that is ok because you can just call it equality right?
they could always use you as a decoy! what double speak for these dems to say they are against the draft but oh yeah everyone should register for it! it's ok I used to be a dem too...
Y2YAY 3 years ago
I never said I support a draft.. all Im saying is that if women are completely equal to men now its only fair they're required to sign up for the selective services as well.
sciath 3 years ago
sciath since you are not in support of the draft how about no one should have to register for it? instead of being so concerned for women's rights. how about being concerned for human rights. no register/no draft. good idea? don't you think? especially when there is a draft bill out there that rangel a democrat wants to push through and many democrats out there do support it and I don't trust that hillary and obama won't change their mind and support it down the road!
Y2YAY 3 years ago 2
I dont think Im gonna get drafted
sciath 3 years ago
of course you don't think you are going to get drafted... have you read rangel's draft bill?
also why would you be ok with registering for a draft if there will never be one?
what is the reason for it? have you ever stopped to give it any thought?
is it just some silly tradition? am I some idiot for bothering to even think about it?
do I have a lot of nerve to even question it?
Y2YAY 3 years ago
sciath you should watch this.
watch?v=7ooO4Eo8I2w
you see rangel wants to invade iran and north korea and other countries... he needs you and other americans to help out with that because he's certainly not going to do it himself!
you better give the idea of you being drafted a little more thought and start to really wonder if the democratic party is really any better than the republican? don't be so selfish there is more at stake than you marrying your boyfriend.
Y2YAY 3 years ago
Democrat or no you are a moron. You feminist piece of shit, if you care so much about women you deserve to die while shielding some random bitch.
Bachelo2 2 years ago
feminist? not me. if you want to label me something call my a constitutionalist.
most of the feminists and liberals want women to register for the draft. many of those butch girls out there could handle the military and they want all women to be all butch and lesbian because it suits them just fine.
Y2YAY 2 years ago
Women should at least never be assigned to infantry roles. Artillery, tanks, but not frontline with rifles. It's a sad fact but simply aren't as strong as men, they won't be able to carry as ammo.
regigiti 3 years ago
I also have some news for stupid anti-war liberal-democrats! and I'm against this war too! just not a liberal! if no one joined the military there wouldn't be a war! so when you are listening to your hillary and obama talk about wanting women to register for the draft and thinking oh how great they are... like the retard you may be... stop and think... wait... that only means more soldiers to fight wars with!! yep... that's right! thinking for yourself can be easy you know!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
why don't the lying piece of shit democrats support real equal rights for women??? like allowing women to be rangers and hold any position in the military that a man can??
that I would support and I'm talking only about for women that volunteer to join!
I don't think any woman should be forced to join the military! yeah I know how sexist of me!!! really the dems just bullshit their flock away! and no I'm not a republican!!
I do see the evil in the dems though! I actually can think for myself
Y2YAY 3 years ago
any women that found my post to be sexist or against equal rights should message me with what they think. I'd love to hear it.
I'm sure in dumbed down america there are some stupid women out there that think hey I want to be required to register for a draft so in the case of them bringing the draft back... I and all women will have to go to war without a choice duh!!! believe me I'd love to hear that if it's out there! oh and the democrats are lying they want to reinstate the draft! just wait!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
Hey Y2YAY..I agree with you..I also think that women do a lot more than men now and here's just one other thing that we have to do and its BS! We dont get any recognition in this country at all we're only pushed away for the positive things like the "glass ceilling" but women want equal rights? Sign up for the draft...but you still wont get mens pay! Its unfair and im especially ashamed at hilliary for not sticking up for us!
Dee8108 3 years ago
Women get paid the same as men in the military. Only private employer can adjust wages for seperate employees
regigiti 3 years ago
a whole bunch of bullshit and it's sad that so many idiots eat it up! I don't think there should be a draft and I don't think women should be required to register for the draft or would be draft! any woman that takes offense to this and thinks that they are being cheated of any right here is a total moron! The only thing I would give to women is the individual right to join voluntarily and for them to hold any position they can prove themselves to hold! now that is what is best and fair to women
Y2YAY 3 years ago
I heard some of these candidates say that they are against the draft, but that women should have to sign up for it. Are they serious? Hillary Clinton said that she doubts we would ever have to use the draft again. That is crazy. Our military is already stretched thin, but meanwhile, both major party presidential nominees have repeatedly called for new wars. Where are we going to get the troops for those wars at? I am against the draft, but the major party nominees are considering it.
stan469 3 years ago
I wonder if Barack Obama plans to go around to various colleges prior to the upcoming election expressing the thoughts that he expressed in this video.
stan469 3 years ago
I like that old guy with the glasses. He's had some pretty solid answers so far.
deoxyribonuclease 3 years ago
Should pregnant women be drafted?
PrinceBaldric 3 years ago
YES.
jrBunny1979 3 years ago
according to Sarah Palin, yes
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
I really doubt that would ever happen. What if they got captured? I can only imagine the horror.
tipoomaster 2 years ago
"Everyone here is missing the big point. NO ONE should have to register for selective service! It is slavery, it is wrong, and it should be abolished. Period."
Yeah? By your logic, following traffic laws is "slavery" and "oppression". Like it or not, there's no where to go where everwy wittle thing is going to go the way your Anarchist beliefs would like to take you. Unless your Mussolini, Stalin, or Kim Jung, you can't just do whatever you want. Thats why, unlike animals, we have "society".
Premier112 3 years ago
When the children of ALL congressmen serve, then my son will
Cerebus555 3 years ago 4
Everyone here is missing the big point. NO ONE should have to register for selective service! It is slavery, it is wrong, and it should be abolished. Period.
Marybobgen 3 years ago 3
some women wouldnt be bad people wouldnt have to go gay animore lol sent some strip clubs over lol
metalhead192 3 years ago
i dont care if women are in the military but they should be able to support our troops but NOT IN A COMBAT POSITION they dont have the same physical or emotional strenth not the be sexist but in lab test women are more emotional in war i want a bunch of tough dudes that wont drop down and cry when a mine or a bomb blows up its been provn that women cant deal with the horrors of war my friend who is now home almost died in iraq because the chick behind him started to cry wen sombody blew up
metalhead192 3 years ago
Ive seen big tough guys cry in welding classes from little slag burns, so tough isnt always a factor concerning sex.
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
im not talking about welding im talking about trained soldiers
metalhead192 3 years ago
I know what you are talking about, but if men can whine about hot welding slag, what happens when they get shot, same thing, hot metal destroying flesh. Next point, what about gays in the military? Some gay men have feminine personalities and some are down right frail, yet they are fit for combat when a woman that goes through the same basic training isnt?
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
yeaaaa bring more women into the army. they all turn into complete sluts once they join. straight up. ask any soldier. so bring it on!!!!!!!!
suicidalemming 3 years ago
Perhaps the real question here is,"Why not?"
Cerebus555 3 years ago
Senator Dodd he'd like "given the opportunity to serve their country in some way". That's a lie, what he wants is that they be force them to serve their government. It's not an opportunity if you're forced to take it.
newperve 3 years ago
I believe for equality reasons, yes, women should register for the draft. But, I also believe that there should be no draft!
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
insane democrats, women are not physically or emotionally the same as men! feminists need to stop lying to themselves. if girls want to volunteer let them, but to force them to register for the draft is simply ludicrous.
famousbill 4 years ago
How much physical strength does it take to pull a trigger? If we are celebrate equality (not physical, not neurological, etc.... but political and civil equality) then we need to instate identical privileges as well as responsibility.
bce5150 3 years ago 2
your missing the point, how much women do you know that will kill, I wouldnt kill but im sure your american retarded trash men would love to kill
theinfamous34 3 years ago
Grow up and look around in the real world. We aren't in the 1920's anymore, okay? Women are just as capable as men in ANYTHING they choose to do. Stop looking at gender and look at individual skills or assests.
sgandms 3 years ago 2
The draft is not a choice for men.....women should be held to the same standards...across the board. In addition, men are just as capable as women at ANYTHING they choose to do. The only difference between men and women is the wo, right??
maxxter07 3 years ago
A woman can give birth, that requires tolerating intense pain, only a sexist bigot would insist women are not physically or emotionally capable of anything a man can do.
You simply do not comprehend ability until you see ten centimeters!
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
why are women not allowed in combat?? Ten centimeters?? which hurts more....giving birth or getting shot/limbs blown off, cut off. It should be manadtory for women to register for the draft and fight on the front lines...that's equality.
maxxter07 3 years ago
I am agreeing with you! One must remember, the only one who doesnt believe in equality is John McCain!
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago
im not saying that women shouldnt vbe drafted they want to be treated egual they should be equal but i sure as shit dont want to serve with a bitch that will freeze up or puss out in combat you get killed by one i would prefer not to
metalhead192 3 years ago
Are women built as strong as men? The answer is no, it is not anatomically possible for a women to do 30 pull-ups 200 push-ups 200 sit-ups swim 1 mile and then run 1.5 miles. A standard requirement for the Navy SEALs. Thats not sexism, its fact. If there were women like that, the worlds strongest people wouldn't all be men.
civilwar64 3 years ago
Tell that to my little sister, she can do more than 50 pull ups, far more than 200 sit ups, cruches or whatever,she was a high school swim champion and runs 3-5 miles per day, oh, she is also a blackbelt in brazilian jiu jitsu and could probably kick your ass and she is 5ft 4" and 135 lbs. Also, go on to bodybuilding websites and although they arent as huge as some of the men, women can get diesel as hell, larger than most enlisted men. Dont tell me women cant get the job done.
lethalcobra2k3 3 years ago 2
im not talking about physicaly strong for everybody there are definatly some chicks that are stronger than men but the avarage marine male and female the male is stronger mentally than the female and i would rather have people who wont puss out, not saying that some guys can be bitches but i rather have men in the military than the women.
metalhead192 3 years ago
so what your saying is your lesbian sister can beat your ass good for you your a bitch compared to your sister
metalhead192 3 years ago
As a member of the armed service, I would say that your sister is an exception. Though I have never seen a man do 50 straight pullups. I would ask is she running at a 5 minute mile pace? With 80+ pounds on her back? Carry a 200+ lb shipmate whose wounded miles to safety? Thats what a SEAL must do. I have seen some extremely strong women where I am. They can be EOD, but rarely do they make it past the training. SEALs is a little harder than EOD.
civilwar64 3 years ago
Maybe my first comment was misread. They have to do all that in a time sequence. Each part is graded. Each event in it of itself is hard but nowhere near impossible. Size doesn't matter, most SEALs are 5'8" 175-185. They are lean, but pound for pound the strongest in the world. Diesel doesn't matter.
civilwar64 3 years ago
Serve the country building homes for the poor, Not killing people on their own land. I can see why its so easy to send our kids to their death, there not yours!!! FUCK YOU
LostFREEDOM 4 years ago 2
money. Pure and simple since the war who has benefited the most?
Exxon mobile just posted record profits
3star2nr 4 years ago 2
HILLARY CLINTON you and writers wga and i TOMORROW Yes we can change the world!
Will talk to you soon and thanks again...THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTER IN MY HOTMAIL...
escritoragaviota 4 years ago
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The fall of mankind was already caused by a woman(eve),
then the fall of america and the rest of the world is next!
wake up guys!
we cannot trust a woman anymore,
SHAME ON HILLARY!!
jeonnecastillo 4 years ago
for the spam comment, jeonnecastillo
1. 2 countries I know has a good woman as a president, it's a shame that one of them died- yes im talking about benazir bhutto(may she rest in peace)im not from her country but i agree that she's good,plus let's say you like obama (i like obama too ) without a woman obama won't be alive and you should gove women a chance to prove that they could rule a country too and i know that some people in this country (US)
woudn't vote for hillary because she a woman
blazing619 4 years ago
ignorance from the word of god is not an excuse my dear, the message of the genesis already warned men not to trust the fate of the world to women, and women not to trust other women to.
jeonnecastillo 4 years ago
equality is equality. If you want exceptions then that negates the fact of equality. We might as well have them stay at home, or give men the right to earn more money. Of course, no woman will every agree to this... well maybe they would agree if we gave them the choice to join the draft or do the dishes... who knows! but even giving them the option negates the fact of the equality they have strived to obtain.
tillo2008 4 years ago
If that's how ya wanna look at it, Clinton has been shootin at Obama just as much. By your logic, If that makes Obama horrible person, then that makes her a racist. If you've been following the election you'll see that Clinton instigated it.
Hillary has voted to pass some of the worst things the Bush administration has put out. The war included. If some of em passed, you wouldn't be cheering for her now.
Juggernath 4 years ago
The idea of a beautiful young woman being drafted against her will, and then having her body torn to shreds by bombs and bullets gives me an erection for some reason.
MarcusSaide 4 years ago
you're fucking sick!
Californiachik85 3 years ago
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I think that it is truly brilliant that a mixed-raced, former Muslim man may soon be the next President of the second most important nation on the planet (after China, of course).
Hillary is the other obvious choice. She is in favour of helping immigrant communities and also black people and brown people a lot more than we currently do. That is the most important thing.
Forget those Romney and Dr. Ron Paul.
bigscolari 4 years ago
Filibusters are pointless... congress runs in two sessions! So what if you filibustered? it doesn't do anything anymore.
Crewbot 4 years ago
I find it funny how all the draft supporters aren't even in the military and aren't planning to join, ahahahah.
I would never die for a bastard's want for oil in Iraq.
Bush is a mass murderer. WAKE UP
alfredgoovermon 4 years ago
we all live here and women use every freedom they every soldier has ever died for.
good answer obama
nagolbrown 4 years ago
No.The practical matter is women have children and Someone needs to stay home at the homefront. If everyone is drafted, that means there is no choice. BTW only young men have to register for the draft. Should we draft grandpa or grandma too?
dawnmytv 4 years ago
To imply that women have a civic duty to raise children is sexist, to imply that men should serve is sexist. If they need someone to stay at the home front they should let all the women who would be so dishonorable as to demand and enjoy the rights of this country without the responsibilities. The military doesn't want a draft anyway, draft soldiers perform horribly and are a hazard to the people around them.
Crewbot 4 years ago 3
Grandma and Grandpa aren't being drafted because they're old, and worthless. Young Women are just as strong as young men, women should be drafted to the war. There should be some compromise where either the father or the mother of the children stay home. Either should be welcome into any war.
kaitlynkehutch 4 years ago
Women are just as capable as men as militants, both physically and psychologically, so you're being misogynistic by even saying that. Why would you draft senior citizens? They're not able bodied or capable of fighting. Moron.
sauceyboy 4 years ago
Yeah, women should submit to selective service. A woman can stop a bullet as well as a man.
bearmare 4 years ago
hilary clinton was a full time stripper when she was 19-25 is this what u call experience
skateemerica1123 4 years ago
show me proof
plasticsauce13 4 years ago
no one is arguing that women are capable. we know that. the issue is if they should be forced to. i hate when people avoid the question.
lekozeeny 4 years ago
If a woman can run for an office that comes with the title of "Commander and chief" of the armed forces, then women can sure as hell be involved in the draft.
AgentJar 4 years ago 8
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ronaldhalabi7 4 years ago
What happened to our "gut instinct" to protect them? Perhaps the same thing that happened to our "gut instinct" to knock them on the heads with clubs and drag them back to our caves. Sometimes "equity" is a scam. Wake up!
Werebat 4 years ago
see above post by me, equality is equality. I have 5 sisters, and all of them would fight for their country and probably be more motivated than half the men I know in the armed forces, and no woman worth any value would have it any other way.
tillo2008 4 years ago 2
Hey buddy, this is 2008. Women have equal rights and benefits now. They are no longer the "protected sex", theyre EQUAL. Therefore they should pay the same costs men are required to in order to retain that status.
sciath 3 years ago 2
the thing you are not getting is that the dems want to bring back the draft and wage more wars and men and women will be forced to go! read rangels draft bill H.R. 393
just type that into google. men and women 18-42... that means you are going bye bye sciath... so enjoy being a democrat! obama has already threatened Iran and Pakistan! he is not change! he is a war monger like Bush! and if he gets in... he'll come out of the closet more on that you better believe it!
Y2YAY 3 years ago
her royal thighness
twoshotdqm 4 years ago 2
good question
vinababygirl 4 years ago
I really am very surprised that there are so many socialist. Hillary, well... shes an idiot, and the only way she will ever help anyone if she were to become president is to anyone on welfare. If you pay your taxes, by voting for her, your are screwing yourself.
krystabass 4 years ago 2
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Unless we want to start losing wars we probably should let then cuz women are pussies
thesnakedoctor8 4 years ago
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*shouldn't (we don't wanna lose)
thesnakedoctor8 4 years ago
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Not pussy enough to beat the fuck out of you.
jessicarabbit14 4 years ago
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HILLARY 4 president 2008!!
Christoffeltje 4 years ago
shes an idiot , why waste more money .she has no plan to get out of iraq and we wont leave with her
chrisramos 4 years ago 3
no thanks hitlery
protofear 4 years ago
The Democrats will Loooooosssssssseeeeeeeee
JoeTube27 4 years ago
the thing chris dodd said at the beginning was crazy. like people who create or work at jobs making products for americans don't serve their country. ouch. we dont want to be like sparta having everyone join the army at a certain age.
patriotactsucks 4 years ago
The question should be about ENDING registration for everyone!
StuartGalore 4 years ago 2
u r a retard lol
ZixacunX 4 years ago
My sentiments exactly!
6782485 4 years ago
That I am a retard?
StuartGalore 4 years ago
no!
You are not a retard.
Registration should be ended for everyone.
6782485 4 years ago
LOL, thought so!
StuartGalore 4 years ago
Why?
risler34 4 years ago
This is funny, Gravel just said that his vote against the draft is preventing our invasion of Iran. Well, what about preventing our defense?
Cerebus555 4 years ago
Well nobodies attacking you at the moment. Who do you think will? Mexico? Half their population is already inside why would they need to invade? Or is it those sneaky Canadians ("They look just like us!")? The fact is the US military could defend America with a small fraction of the troops they use to attack other countries. Hell make every male own an AK-47 or equivelent and you're uninvadable.
newperve 3 years ago
Dodd's answer was the best for me.
milanoflix 4 years ago
So you think it's OK to force people into work they don't like just so they can have a "shared experience"? Then why not force them into prostitution, since they haven't "shared" that "experience".
newperve 3 years ago
Ron Paul 2008!!!!
zholland5633 4 years ago
man, you dems are clueless;Hillary just proposed mandatory service
NOT just for military campaignes but for whatever the gov decides,I saw that movie "hitler youth corp" how bout the gov minds its own fking business.socialist pigs,all of them (fake coservatives included). Vote Ron Paul and get the gov out of your life.
crabtrap 4 years ago
I share your concern that a possibility exist of youth being manipulated by government like they are by church and deity. Hitler wanted the youth because of thier ease in following authority. It is however desireable to have playstation kids cleaning up the playground, mopping the toilets in public buildings, assisting the elderly, or anything else that addresses the selfish "Me" generation. Community service is now a required class credit in many highschools.
irreverentjim 4 years ago
that's exactly the way hilter coverted the austrians to his cause,and to this day some of the youth consider him they're
"father" because of the conditioning.if are children don't know how to lend a helping hand becuase we failed as parents,why would the gov do any better?and if they did would'nt the child owe their alligance to the state not the family?
crabtrap 4 years ago
I listened close I did not hear that? I have several relatives that served in world war2 and the koren war. In there minds if we were honestly in danger everyone should serve.
1coldfusion1 4 years ago
"honestly in danger" gee,who decides that.hitler thought they were "honestly in danger by the Jewish kabal" i hear pundits say "people at home should sacrifice" that is such bs
if citizens were threatened with real danger they would shoot every m'fer that walked over the border.the reason ww2
is remembered so fondly is our citizen were helping their euro relatives italy,germans,brits escape tyranny.
crabtrap 4 years ago
Gravel is like my hypothetical crotchety old uncle that I LOVE!
electrorocket 4 years ago
I'm all for a women president, but NOT Hillary!
I'm all for a black president, but NOT Barack!
I'm all for a white male president too, and it IS Ron Paul!
By the way, Kucinich's wife is HOT!
electrorocket 4 years ago 2
I don't support Clinton personally, I just want my bill (the one she mentioned) to get passed :-)
SeanFromIT 4 years ago
Wow, I don't want to hear this bullshit politician game they're trying to play. When you check each candidate they all attempt to use emotional and social appeal to lure audiences toward them just like propaganda. All these candidates are here to steal votes, not win them. That is the difference between a great president, a good president, and a useless one. The last description will describe whoever wins the election from these candidates.
TheChamp531 4 years ago
To learn more about Clinton's proposal and sign the petition for it go to uspublicserviceacademy [dot] org !
SeanFromIT 4 years ago
ok I am looking through the Wellston Forum and I am seeing a bunch people wondering if your form Wellston Ohio...or a plant..... But good question
stallout78 4 years ago
of course i'm from wellston ;-)
TonyFuller2 4 years ago
Hey, I served too, you betcha women can and should serve, I contributed just as much as my male counterparts! and it was the best time of my life...Go Navy!
BabsRocky 4 years ago
John Edwards, "Need to beat women like *Mumbled* Park." Secret abuse campaign!
humptiness 4 years ago
Hillary will do just about anything to get votes. Did you notice how big her butt has gotten? She did this on purpose just to get the black vote away from Obama. (I like big butts and I cannot lie) lol
nododon 4 years ago 2
Women in the military provide "comfort" for deployed soldiers. Just like when the Japaneses drafted their comfort women in WWII
abitar1 4 years ago
where can I watch the entire debate, please someone help me
Exanimate17 4 years ago
Mike G is really old and crazy!
Patjersey3000 4 years ago
Although he does seem to get quite a bit excited, at least he stands up for what's right. Obama, Hilary, and Edwards aren't doing what's right for allowing gay marriage and single payer healthcare.
burningice17 4 years ago
Yes he is old, but I wouldnt say crazy. More like candid and angry at the mess our country is. Id rather have that pissed off old man going to bat for me than any of those others tools.
elviselway 4 years ago
If national service means that priviledged men and women need to teach in inner cities then sure..if it means we all need to go kill strangers for oil money then - HELL NO.
CityzenJane 4 years ago
No, CityzenJane. It will STILL only be MEN that are REQUIRED to sacrifice life and limb. Women required to serve in combat? Don't make Kim Gandy laugh.
murtari 4 years ago
I don't think either should be killing for oil barrons...how about you? I think MEN should refuse to fight in this unjust war? How about you?
CityzenJane 4 years ago
He was holding alot of documents that prosecuters of whitewater investigators wanted and then after months and alot missing, Hillary "FOUND" them in a closet in her personal living quarters!
spookynshadow 4 years ago
oh please. get a life.
CityzenJane 4 years ago
So Hillary, when you come clean to all the American ppl WHO not what killed your errrr boyfriend, Vince Foster? Suicide my ASS! What was your personal sec. doing in his office stealing documents out before his body was found! See my channel, part 1 nad 2 about this mans death!
spookynshadow 4 years ago
Equal rights means equal responsibilities, which includes fighting in wars.
InMooseWeTrust 4 years ago
Thank you PoliticsTV for posting this debate, well at least most of it.
cbrock7 4 years ago