Of all the vaccines on the schedule only 2.... for emphasis... ONLY 2.... have had any research on their relationship to autism.
1. MMR and the research is mixed, although the establishment claims that MMR has been exonerated. I don't believe it has.
2. Hepatitis B and only ONE study has been done. It found that the series of three vaccines, when started in the first month triple the autism rate in boys.
Not one other vaccine has been studied. Or the schedule as a whole.
What a joke that doctor is "we have to look at statistics, we have to look at studies" Well then where are the studies showing vaccines are safe and effective? Why are non-vaccinated kids so much healthier and don't have autism? She's referencing fraudulent "research" done by the very companies selling vaccines!! Talk about a conflict of interest. And this for the great good crap?? You're kidding me, disease rates had decreased over 95% by the time the vaccines were used.
@midtra52 "Well then where are the studies showing vaccines are safe and effective?" are you serious? go on pubmed for one, you can pull up tons. "disease rates had decreased over 95% by the time the vaccines were used" ah yeah, reguritate that propaganda.
@BillKiernan It's called statistics. The census and health departments have that all available. Just because you refuse to look at it doesn't mean it's "propaganda". If you refuse to accept that grass is green that doesn't mean me saying grass is green is propaganda. That's reality, it's what we live in. Pubmed by the way does not show a single long term placebo controlled study of a vaccine, there has never been one done along with any safety study on vaccines, show me if you find one.
@midtra52 "Pubmed by the way does not show a single long term placebo..." you have the audacity to say this after accusing me of not looking something up? to anyone reading this who doesn't get all their info spoon fed to them from natural news, infowars, or some anti-vac site: go to pubmed yourself and plug in search terms like "vaccine, efficacy, safety, randomized" etc. i addressed this to other people because if you haven't bothered to do so by now, you never will midtra52
@BillKiernan Funny I did just what you said ncbi . nl m.ni h.g ov / p ubm ed? ter m=v acc in e% 2 C%20effic a cy%2 C%2 0s a fety% 2C %2 0r and om ize d take out the spaces obviously. So... there you have it. Your search results on pubmed, and not a single long term placebo controlled study, and not a single safety study of vaccines. For a note here, you have to actually read the studies. A good number say "controlled or placebo" yet they label a concotion of poisons as the placeb
@midtra52 "and not a single long term placebo controlled study, and not a single safety study of vaccines." wow really? i must have been hallucinating then. let me take a wild guess here, you're also a creationist/intelligent design proponent who constantly repeats "there's not evidence for evolution" right?
@BillKiernan I've read many. That one is simple, it's like all the others. Read the methodology, see the fraud and point it out. All I'm saying is if you truly don't understand the study and why it's fraudulent then you should read it. Then you should learn what the scientific method is and how scientists actually carry it out to do legitimate research
In case you don't understand how a legitimate safety study works. The study is done long term, with a control group, separate from studies measuring effectiveness. Because studies measuring effectiveness are allowed to throw out any patient that does not finish the study due to death, injury, or illness. Therefore any study measuring effectiveness that claims to report safety numbers is manipulative and most likely downright fraudulent from the start.
@BillKiernan For instance, here is one of the studies in that pubmed search that has a full text available biom edcentr al. co m /1 4 7 1-233 4/1 0/2 97 Read the title and is says it's a controlled study. When you read the actual study however it was not controlled. They used a vaccine as the control rather than an actual placebo. When you're poisoning both groups of patients you have no control group to start with, this is the typical fraud used throughout the vaccine industry.
@clear yoga, actually I was referring to my son with autism and how there are many states that do not give parents the opportunity to use patients rights in account when it comes to vaccinations. Vaccines are not a one size fits all. Damages happen.
There is not one study that studies inflammation before and after each and every vaccine that is on the schedule** from birth. Inflammation is the first sign of an infection to see if vaccine should be rescheduled. There is also no testing for autoimmune disorders before vaccines are given to see if someone maybe at risk. How can someone know if they are allergic until they are given an injection? Blindly stick? Should a blood test be done before a vaccine is given? Vaccine injuries happen.
@mommalovesaj - Actually, it's the next version of the human brain evolving, and with any experimental new 'technology' there are going to be a lot of 'prototypes' that don't work as well as we would hope they to.
It's all too easy to focus on those that are the most 'disabled' by autism, but you are ignoring people like Temple Grandin, Einstein, Tesla, Newton etc..
Compare it with racing cars - the most advanced technology, lots of breakdowns, useless at shopping, but savant at going fast ;)
Hmmm, my child was in fact vaccinated as a fetus because I was vaccinated during pregnancy. My child has many problems today 6 yrs later, autism being one of them.
Proof that vaccines did not save us: genesgreenbook. com/content/proof-vaccines-didnt-save-us History shows us that vaccines did NOT eradicate the diseases that plagued humanity. That is a common misconception, in fact, it was better sanitation and hygiene in the cities that prevented the spread of diseases. These charts, from official sources, show us that vaccines were not responsible, and are not necessary, for eliminating infectious diseases, are not effective, and are dangerous.
@Isenidal LOL you should publish a paper if you know the cause of autism. You should also contact the press about all those families you worked with that have dead children.
With any other drug, if someone is shown to have adverse side-effects they pull the drug and make sure it's safe. But the procedure changes in this case. I am for vaccines, but perhaps we need to look at the way they're administered, the number of vaccines at one time, and yes an honest and objective look at vaccine safety!
Why would you still be pro-vaccine? At the least you'd think a person would be vaccine-agnostic after going through all this. All due to social pressure, I bet she isn't really pro-vaccine she just has to say she is. It's so evil how the system beats us down
Of all the vaccines on the schedule only 2.... for emphasis... ONLY 2.... have had any research on their relationship to autism.
1. MMR and the research is mixed, although the establishment claims that MMR has been exonerated. I don't believe it has.
2. Hepatitis B and only ONE study has been done. It found that the series of three vaccines, when started in the first month triple the autism rate in boys.
Not one other vaccine has been studied. Or the schedule as a whole.
morepuppies 4 months ago
What a joke that doctor is "we have to look at statistics, we have to look at studies" Well then where are the studies showing vaccines are safe and effective? Why are non-vaccinated kids so much healthier and don't have autism? She's referencing fraudulent "research" done by the very companies selling vaccines!! Talk about a conflict of interest. And this for the great good crap?? You're kidding me, disease rates had decreased over 95% by the time the vaccines were used.
midtra52 9 months ago
@midtra52 "Well then where are the studies showing vaccines are safe and effective?" are you serious? go on pubmed for one, you can pull up tons. "disease rates had decreased over 95% by the time the vaccines were used" ah yeah, reguritate that propaganda.
BillKiernan 5 months ago
@BillKiernan It's called statistics. The census and health departments have that all available. Just because you refuse to look at it doesn't mean it's "propaganda". If you refuse to accept that grass is green that doesn't mean me saying grass is green is propaganda. That's reality, it's what we live in. Pubmed by the way does not show a single long term placebo controlled study of a vaccine, there has never been one done along with any safety study on vaccines, show me if you find one.
midtra52 5 months ago
@midtra52 "Pubmed by the way does not show a single long term placebo..." you have the audacity to say this after accusing me of not looking something up? to anyone reading this who doesn't get all their info spoon fed to them from natural news, infowars, or some anti-vac site: go to pubmed yourself and plug in search terms like "vaccine, efficacy, safety, randomized" etc. i addressed this to other people because if you haven't bothered to do so by now, you never will midtra52
BillKiernan 5 months ago
@BillKiernan Funny I did just what you said ncbi . nl m.ni h.g ov / p ubm ed? ter m=v acc in e% 2 C%20effic a cy%2 C%2 0s a fety% 2C %2 0r and om ize d take out the spaces obviously. So... there you have it. Your search results on pubmed, and not a single long term placebo controlled study, and not a single safety study of vaccines. For a note here, you have to actually read the studies. A good number say "controlled or placebo" yet they label a concotion of poisons as the placeb
midtra52 5 months ago
@midtra52 "and not a single long term placebo controlled study, and not a single safety study of vaccines." wow really? i must have been hallucinating then. let me take a wild guess here, you're also a creationist/intelligent design proponent who constantly repeats "there's not evidence for evolution" right?
BillKiernan 5 months ago
@midtra52 "For a note here, you have to actually read the studies" you answered me in what, 5 minutes? yeah you read them.....
BillKiernan 5 months ago
@BillKiernan I've read many. That one is simple, it's like all the others. Read the methodology, see the fraud and point it out. All I'm saying is if you truly don't understand the study and why it's fraudulent then you should read it. Then you should learn what the scientific method is and how scientists actually carry it out to do legitimate research
midtra52 5 months ago
@midtra52 first the studies didn't exist, now they exist, but are "fraudulent."
BillKiernan 5 months ago
In case you don't understand how a legitimate safety study works. The study is done long term, with a control group, separate from studies measuring effectiveness. Because studies measuring effectiveness are allowed to throw out any patient that does not finish the study due to death, injury, or illness. Therefore any study measuring effectiveness that claims to report safety numbers is manipulative and most likely downright fraudulent from the start.
midtra52 5 months ago
@BillKiernan For instance, here is one of the studies in that pubmed search that has a full text available biom edcentr al. co m /1 4 7 1-233 4/1 0/2 97 Read the title and is says it's a controlled study. When you read the actual study however it was not controlled. They used a vaccine as the control rather than an actual placebo. When you're poisoning both groups of patients you have no control group to start with, this is the typical fraud used throughout the vaccine industry.
midtra52 5 months ago
@clear yoga, actually I was referring to my son with autism and how there are many states that do not give parents the opportunity to use patients rights in account when it comes to vaccinations. Vaccines are not a one size fits all. Damages happen.
mommalovesaj 9 months ago
Langsam kommt die Wahrheit raus... packt sie dort, wo es ihnen weh tut - nicht an den Eiern - am Konto... verdammte Pharmamafia...
GottTS 9 months ago
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priestmike 9 months ago
There is not one study that studies inflammation before and after each and every vaccine that is on the schedule** from birth. Inflammation is the first sign of an infection to see if vaccine should be rescheduled. There is also no testing for autoimmune disorders before vaccines are given to see if someone maybe at risk. How can someone know if they are allergic until they are given an injection? Blindly stick? Should a blood test be done before a vaccine is given? Vaccine injuries happen.
mommalovesaj 9 months ago
Ever stutter?
mommalovesaj 9 months ago
Autism is a brain malfunction.
mommalovesaj 9 months ago
@mommalovesaj - Actually, it's the next version of the human brain evolving, and with any experimental new 'technology' there are going to be a lot of 'prototypes' that don't work as well as we would hope they to.
It's all too easy to focus on those that are the most 'disabled' by autism, but you are ignoring people like Temple Grandin, Einstein, Tesla, Newton etc..
Compare it with racing cars - the most advanced technology, lots of breakdowns, useless at shopping, but savant at going fast ;)
ClearYoga 9 months ago
Hmmm, my child was in fact vaccinated as a fetus because I was vaccinated during pregnancy. My child has many problems today 6 yrs later, autism being one of them.
CJEB4 9 months ago
Proof that vaccines did not save us: genesgreenbook. com/content/proof-vaccines-didnt-save-us History shows us that vaccines did NOT eradicate the diseases that plagued humanity. That is a common misconception, in fact, it was better sanitation and hygiene in the cities that prevented the spread of diseases. These charts, from official sources, show us that vaccines were not responsible, and are not necessary, for eliminating infectious diseases, are not effective, and are dangerous.
gndrand 9 months ago
@Isenidal LOL you should publish a paper if you know the cause of autism. You should also contact the press about all those families you worked with that have dead children.
TheKanner11 9 months ago
With any other drug, if someone is shown to have adverse side-effects they pull the drug and make sure it's safe. But the procedure changes in this case. I am for vaccines, but perhaps we need to look at the way they're administered, the number of vaccines at one time, and yes an honest and objective look at vaccine safety!
DougMcDave 9 months ago
I'm pro science. Therefore I'm for good vaccines. Anti-federal government scare tactics is Faux News' stock in trade.
Corporations8MyBaby 9 months ago
Why would you still be pro-vaccine? At the least you'd think a person would be vaccine-agnostic after going through all this. All due to social pressure, I bet she isn't really pro-vaccine she just has to say she is. It's so evil how the system beats us down
dubified89 9 months ago