How to play Shogi(将棋) -Lesson#5- Chinese characters on the pieces

[boswell255]

The kanji for pawn is easy to visualise as a guy strolling along. Just search google images for "haters gonna hate" ;)

[HoshinoYoz0ra]

If an anime could inspire me to play shougi it would be shion no ou

[Furral]

Wow, where did all these people come from, all of a sudden?

[Furral]

@Furral never mind... it's the new youtube layout, it's confusing me.

[zZCosmicEnergyZz]

Sweet lessons! Do you know where i can get a good quality shogi set?

[HIDETCHI]

@zZCosmicEnergyZz Go to shop.nekomado.com

[Danleyson1]

I wish that I enjoyed learning in school as much as I enjoy learning about this game.

[SoulSn1peProductions]

whose learning this game cause of naruto :) give thumbs up

[zhumanchuie]

where did you get the shogi pieces Hidetchi?

[spazitude80]

when you say this is cursive are you saying that it is Hirigana?

[ataunnasr]

You should totally teach us how to learn japanese!!

[leejh27]

I would like to get these pieces. How do I get them?

[kakaman05]

10:20 under the king does that mean penis ??

[Caroliano]

Even tought I can read most of the kanjis (when not cursive), this new set is indeed much better for youtube videos. Thank you very much for going out of your way to buy a new set of pieces.

心配してありがとうございます！ＨＩＤＥＣＨＩのいろいろなビデ­オはさいこうです！

[Dunpeal875]

Just perfect!

[ikeramuki]

高そうな盛上駒持ってますね。

[FFan1to12]

@HIDETCHI i have a quick question. you say chinese characters. but if its chinese on the stones why is it japanese chess?

[hirohiigo]

@FFan1to12 Kanji are Chinese characters used in Japanese.

[SondaroSasuke]

wow, I loved the meaning of 王 , a man between heaven and earth...

私は日本語の学生。　Could you please tell me the url of that webpage? It would be great for my class :D

[kevincobain2000]

lol "it looks like a letter to me of course"

[alirubit]

どこに一つ将棋を買えますか

ありがとうございます

[alirubit]

@HotSpot6 how are you gonna type the kanji on them? if you speak japanese and have a really good calligraphy they will end up looking great, let us know how it comes up

[Zendath666]

For a new player, would you recommend wooden or plastic pieces? Or rather, which ones do you prefer using?

[hirohiigo]

@Zendath666 It depends on what you want to use it for, and personal preference. My favorite set is plastic with a vinyl roll-up board that make it easy to carry around. Some of the cheapest sets are wood, such as the "Shogi in a Box" set from Japanese-Games-Shop (which is the one I started with).

[clearlypellucid]

Hidetchi, I have been trying to find a good place to buy a Shogi board and pieces in the United States, but cannot find single-character pieces. Do you know of any Japanese websites that sell pieces and will ship overseas? Where did you get the pieces you used in this video?

[Bubim1]

Is the size of the pieces important?

i want to make my own shogi game, and its easier to make

it, if any pieces have the same size.

[LordSatoh]

You could post the website you found about the origin of the characters! I really like this kind of study

[icannotfalter]

ok, um... at 10:30 ... is that what I think it is under the king? O.o

[HallowedError]

Thanks, HIDETCHI. I love learning new games, especially strategy games. I look forward to watching the rest of your lessons.

[Fafnerluver922]

I have a question, who gets first move when you start playing?.?

[tooktookguy]

Hidetchi, Im Thai and there is no shop that sells shogi so I have to either buy it from CHina or Japan or simply order it. Any suggestions?

[dandyroyal]

where did you get your new set and how much does it cost

[GoGeiGaGaGo]

This video isn't loading for me. All the other previous videos loaded but not this one? ;o

[gotohell66666]

@HotSpot6 lol me 2

[vishalb]

Can you tell me where you've bought those cheaper pieces? I can't seem to find a website which sells them :(

[InCharacter]

3:20 What exactly to you mean by cursives of silver? I see the first to pieces on the top share the same upside down V like part, but the secound two do not have these similarities.

[HIDETCHI]

I said cursives of "gold".

They are all cursive styles of the same kanji, "gold". They are only different in how much they are cursive.

[TheZumm17]

@HIDETCHI But I can't see the "to" in the "gold" character D=

[granjaguar48]

Hi, folks.

Hidetchi, your videos are just what i've been finding. Just awesome! Thank you very much.

By the way, what is the origin of the name Kei-Ma (Cassia Horse), is the Cassia to japanese culture that Laurel is for the greek-roman culture? is a simbol of honor and victory?

Saludos.

[HIDETCHI]

No, cassia means bark of cassia tree.

It was used for its incense.

[setiawandenis]

@HIDETCHI what's the url for that chinese character origin? looks interesting, thanks. :)

[kooliodragon]

@HIDETCHI Where do you get those shogi pieces from... please reply

in dire need of new pieces

[AncientChess]

@HIDETCHI I'm looking up Cassia on the internet and finding several species and uses. Some call it 'cinnamon', which is a very common spice in the Western world. Would 'cinnamon horse' be right? (I like the sound of it).

[BARONSCHWARZWALD]

where did you get your original set?

[KeithSloanM3VBN]

Please can you provide details of where the single character pieces can be bought. Also the international ones would be good too.

[FoodPunch]

Its a good thing Im bilingual and I understand Chinese and english :D So i have little trouble

[Reyrocksall]

"They're musch cheaper, and not well pollished." I guess that's a compliment :)

[wnsk]

Since you say these are Chinese characters, and I know Chinese, the character you translated as "jewel" actually means "jade" in Chinese. Of course, jade is a kind of jewel/gem. But maybe the "jade" meaning is absent in Japanese? In which case, it would mean that Chinese characters have a different meaning in, or to, Japanese.

[jspadegate]

玉（ぎょく）は日本でもヒスイを意味します。ただ、それを知って­いる人は今では少ないですが。

[joshua5576]

those new pieces have the kanji on my pieces

[akamarutv]

Thanks, great vid. I've studied japanese so I can read the kanji but I hope other people don't have trouble with it. It seems really hard to me if I didn't know japanese.

[jack02008]

cool

[senichikun]

The lance looks really close to the kanji for spring. But not quite P:

[sangotiger4321]

xD loved how you put it at 1:00 'they are much cheaper' Naruto rules! and I play chess but I'm not too good at it so for some reason I'm thinking maybe ill be better at this game.

[sniperdarkness]

sorry but if you're not good in chess, there's no way you can be better in shogi wich requires much more attention!

[HIDETCHI]

That's not always true.

I do pretty well on shogi, but I'm not good in chess.

For me, chess requires much more attention than shogi, cuz it has as many as 4 rooks and 4 bishops on the board! Moreover, the knights can leap over to 8 directions! It's extremely hard for shogi players to be careful about all the possible moves! Many unexpected piece maneuvers and pin/discovery tactics happen for me.

[sniperdarkness]

i see! you must be right ! i play chess very often so i kind of forgot how complicated it could be. thank you for the lessons! do you know a free shogi game software on pc? i'd be grateful if you help me find one, i really need to play this game!

[HIDETCHI]

You can see some free software in my later lesson. I think it was around lesson#25 or so.

[sniperdarkness]

arigato gozaimasu !

[joshua5576]

It was lesson#27

[ajith5171]

Good Job, Nice

[MapleLightz]

yea and that anime is naruto. lol and i was thinking that it would be funny to see Times New Roman or Gothic written on the bottom of a shogi piece!

[MapleLightz]

wow ur videos are great!! i heard aboutshogi when i was watching anime and it seemed intresting. i wanted to learn how to play but couldn't find out how until now!!

[JohnnySkillish]

I am an avid chess player and had heard about shogi and found your lesson series and have been watching. I just wanted to say that you are doing a great job HIDETCHI and thanks for even taking the time and your own money to help non-Japanese speaking individuals learn this great game easier. :)

[CappucinoJones00]

wow! this set is definitely easier for english speakers. thanks and thanks for your last few videos, they're grrrrrreat!

[pauekn]

I guess I should say that I wanted to learn Shogi because of Naruto aswell :-P

[garenka]

lol i wanted to learn shogi from naruto too :) glad to see there are others as well :D

[slaughtR21]

I am also watching these videoes because of naruto. (shikamaru rules).

and i would also like to thank HIDETCHI for making these videoes and helping me realize how awesome of a game shogi is. I am currently looking into buying a shogi board. so thanks a bunch.

[kiffe22]

naruto ftw :D

[davil3n]

WoW !!! Who knew Naruto would have such an impact on people learning a new game like Shogi. Watching both Asuma and Shikamaru play Shogi for seasons on Naruto and Naruto Shippuden encouraged me to learn as well.

[kstherkilsen80264]

I'm actually watching this because I saw it an Naruto. I love chess and a few of my friends do so I'm hoping they'll learn it with me.

[slayer9191]

That's so funny same here. Though I want to play because of the strategy involved.

[Kroshiroi]

i saw a set of shogi not using Kanji but got picture on it.

[HIDETCHI]

That's internationalized version of Shogi.

You can see it in video-ID: JAUf_zym1rs

But it's not popular at all. I've never played with it.

[Kroshiroi]

i an chinese so there is no problem for me to read the words.But can you introduce the symbol pieces?

[HIDETCHI]

What do you mean by 'symbol piece' ?

[joshua5576]

I think he means internationalized pieces

[DarkWinqs]

Ah I really like these videos, couse you can explain the whole game that everyone can understand it ;D You did a great job with this!!

And Lilydrop : I started couse of the same reason, watching Shikamaru playing Shogi in Naruto Shuppuuden ^.^

[noobsdumb]

who says cheap things are bad! :P

[Lilydrop]

Lol, I also started to watch these videos because of Shikamaru. :P Who knew Naruto could affect what you do in real life like this? xD I really want a shogi board and pieces, now. :)

HIDETCHI, your videos are awesome! I am learning so much from them! They are very well organized and easy to understand. :) Thank you for making them! I am currently at video 10 but I came back to Lesson 5 because I had not memorized completely the kanji on the pieces yet.

[raulcarcova]

whooo! Shikamaru is the best

[MSNcomMartiny2m]

a dragon is a snake with a crown eh

sounds like the corrupted monarchy

[2025AD]

I don't want to sound rude, but would have a suggestion.

How would it be to add in some way on the pieces the first Latin letter of their English name, as listed in the "Abbreviations" column of the shogi pieces table from Wikipedia?

[hokman1]

I like the old pieces, has 2 words more complete

[dragondevel5]

yeah, but the glare D:

[nigahigasgreatestfan]

i got interested in this game because shikamaru too, so thank him, gotta ask my parents to buy this for me

[Joshiraxd]

lmao! me too, hi-5!!  shikamaru is cool. where can we buy shogi from besides the internet?

[yue5000]

Same here lol

I'm actually getting ready to go on a hiatus from chess for a while to play it ^_^

[doomkaiser92]

shikimaru is awesome he's the reason i wanna play shogi but av been a chess player since before i saw naruto

[MXdetty]

interesting the meanin of the figures

[kevinw1612]

can you tell me i can buy shogi pieces and these in the video and the table cheap on not plz

[chessdawgz]

I think the original pieces looked nicer, but I see what you mean with the light reflecting it

[linfeixb27]

I come from China. Though I knew we share some characters in our languages, I didn't know they have the same meaning. Say can you understand a sentence like it? "你好，我来自中国，我喜欢将棋。"

[HIDETCHI]

Meaning of each character is 99% equal. However, the way we use them is sometimes different, and the meanings sometimes get different when they're combined. For example, "手紙" is toilet paper in China right? But it's "Letter" in Japanese. And, what else,,, "愛人" in Japanese means what you mean by "情人" in Chinese. It's interesting.

Yes, I understand. "Hello, I'm from China, I like shogi." We can guess by seeing the characters, and I can also understand simple Chinese sentences, too.

[Rekrad626]

hey i thought this was a japanese game

[HIDETCHI]

Of course it's a Japanese game.

It's just that we use Chinese characters in Japanese language, just as you use alphabets in many languages.

[Rekrad626]

oh ok thanx mate

[xDAZZE]

Japanese and Chinese share the same origins in languages.

[jjblades1010220]

Thanks Hidetchi. Your videos are very helpful

[oddeye889]

awesome!! I enjoy these videos a lot. The simple set of pieces you have are made by "Yamagami", is that correct? And who are the nicer ones made by?

[HIDETCHI]

Thanks.

You're right! They're Yamagami's pieces.

The nicer ones are made by "Etsuzan".

[oddeye889]

Great! I'm gonna try and find a set of his. :)

[hanzimaster]

hidetchi,

How do you make your own board and pieces?

THANX :)

[hugechicken]

Hi, you say this is a cheaper set but I think they are very nice, where did you buy it?

[HIDETCHI]

Oh, I bought it from a Japanese website... It's a shopping website of Japan Shogi Association.

[legalrule]

HIDETCHI,

Can you please give me the Japan Shogi Association website? I'd like to purchase a set, thank you.

[Dparrey]

Hmm you should be able to find a decent one on eBaY.

I got a fairly plain set with board + pieces for 30 dollars AUD (that includes postage)

[hugechicken]

Excellent tutorials, thanks a lot!

[mxx]

Thank you for a very useful shogi tutorial!

Could you please provide a link to the site where kanji origins are described?

[HIDETCHI]

Here is the link to the site I refered to.

w w w 5 b . b i g l o b e . n e . j p/~shu-sato/kanji/

Thanks.

[StrangerCoug]

Since the pieces that promote to gold generals have characters on the promoted side that are cursive variants of 金, I'm wondering if it's a coincidence that the character on the promoted side of the pawn looks like the first kana of the Japanese name for a promoted pawn.

[HIDETCHI]

The cursive letter on the promoted pawn looks so different from "金" that even Japanese people can't recognize. But it coincidentally looks very similar to a Hiragana "と" (To). (Hiragana is Japanese original phonogram.) That's why call it "と金" (To-Kin). And most Japanese people don't know that the letter on the promoted pawn is a cursive of "金". They think it's the Hiragana "と".

[FireElementNinja]

Thx for these tutorials you're really explicit; I first saw shogi in Naruto (anime) -I'm a really big fan. And now I want to learn it... I understand though that it is more complicated then western chess but I'm willing to learn it. By the way, thx for explaining the characters i'm trying to learn japanese too... at first it seemed pretty simple but on the way things got more complicated. :)) THX again !!!

[HIDETCHI]

Thanks for leaving a comment. I hope you enjoy my video lessons and learn well about Shogi.

[willimarconi]

I am in the same chase.... lol

but I'm also learning english and french.

I like nara shikamaru too,lol

[MOSTBOX]

I love games of strategy but i find american chess boring that and no one wants to play me because i get too serious so i was wondering if you could tell me where i can find shogi sets in chicago and or the suburbs

ps keep up the good work

[HIDETCHI]

Sorry for my late reply. Unfortunately, I live in Japan and have no idea where you can get Shogi sets in U.S. How about searching it on some online shopping website or something?

And, thank you very much for leaving a comment.