*YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, IDA, ISME, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Small Firms Association, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
NO vote = we are still in the EU, like we are now, and the EU must be more accountable to the people of Europe. It stops the runaway power of the EU parliament and its gravy train expenses.
YES vote = no way back, we can't undo mistakes made in the treaty or the EU, our say in EU is halved. Some countries say is doubled.
The mature thing is to stand up and tell EU to correct the problems, not to give in to the accusing tut-tutting of EU politicians trying to tell us we should be embarrassed.
i feel personally sick that its up to us irish to decide for europe! why does it have to be us! thats too much pressure! other countries teln us 2vote no to dictatorship and save them and others saying if we vote no to get out! 2 days til iv 2vote totally confused and not liking it one bit.
"In the guise of reform,this treaty will give significant new powers to the EU over almost all aspects of our lives,with a concomitant reduction in Ireland's voting strength and sovereign power .Most frightening of all however is the obscene militarisation of the EU" (Catheline Connolly).
" The Lisbon treaty will lead to a burocratic dictatorship" (Prof.Schachtschneider, Nurenberg University).
WAKE UP BRAVE IRISH !
YES to a democratic Europe,NO to the Lisbon treaty and "president" Blair !
NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
The EU is supposed to be a grouping of sovereign countries working together but the Lisbon treaty/constitution will change all that and turn the EU into a legal entity that is SUPERIOR in law to sovereign countries,laws and constitutions !
The EU didn't even have the decency to ask us if we wanted to become EU "citizens"...apart from the French,Dutch and brave Irish who ALL SAID NO !
The Swedish presidency is already working on an EU-wide ban on alchohol in shops !
The ECB didn't cause the recession, our own lack of forward planning and a dependence on the construction sector did.
If the IRISH central bank / financial regulator had actually regulated our OWN banks, then we could have avoided NAMA & a fair amount of this mess.
Ireland comprises 3% of the Eurozone economy, therefore, true, we will have a minimal say in Euro Interest rates; however, on the plus side, the Euro did not plumet when Ireland's economy crashed as the Irish punt would have.
« The EU is certainly playing, and will continue to play, a central role in shaping the new order that is gradually emerging..the EU is the natural starting point for any effort to improve global governance »
( José Barosso, President of the un-elected « commission ).
"The need to bolster Europe's military capabilities to match our aspirations is more urgent than ever"
The truth is that even now Robert Mugabe has a greater democratic legitimacy than the EU. Mugabe has been elected often in the past though now his mandate has run out - The EU Commission has NEVER been elected & the peoples of France, Holland & Ireland have VOTED NO to the new constitution/Lisbon Treaty threatening the snouts of the politicians and parasites with losing their troughs on the gravy train. The corrupt central State is determined, like Mugabe, to force new votes for personal gain!
I could'nt agree more Ollie. And for the added reason that we sold our fisheries down the swaney (forgive the pun) 120billion approx and recieved just 52billion in return.. The Euro note does'nt go far anyhow!!
I think that is the best thing that should be done,5 trillion euros of gas and oil would go a long way in Ireland,since we are just an Island.and we do not consume as much energy as other Countries,especially with the oil crisis around the corner.
My own feeling is that to the EU , Ireland is just a piggy bank , nobody knows how much minerals and fossil fuels are waiting to be exploited off our coasts ! will we see any of it ? I'd doubt it ! we should be like Norway , keep out of the EU keep our oil and gas , and become a very wealthy nation !
What oil??!?! Thats pure speculation and has nothing to do with the EU! Britain has oil and has benefitted from it! The reason multinationals have our gas is our own fault! We allowed them free exploration so that someone would explore! And so we could tax their profit! That was OUR fault... nothing to do with Shell or the EU!
Bill of fundamental rights - means that EU tells Ireland how many immigrants both legal & illegal Ireland must take in. That these people can be hired for a minimum wage which means Ireland must compete for these wages or lose their jobs.
Ireland do the Europeans a favor & vote No
"Not a superstate that is dilluting the national identity." - Barroso -President of the European Commission
out of all 450million europeans, only 4 million are getting to vote on this.
ireland is the only nation to vote, know why? cos other nations have been told its too complex a referendum to understand, so they dont trust their people!!
i'm not voting for two reasons, first off as a nation were very uninformed about this, and more importantly, i'll be falling around amsterdam, smoking and drinking my brains out on thursday morning.
I am voting no but not for any of the reasons coir go on about. they are actually doing a disservice to the no campaign with all their lies and loony claims. even the bishops seem to be critical of them.
The Lisbon Treaty has NOTHING to do with abortion: the catholic church have themselves declared this. FYI SIPTU, one of Ireland's largest unions are pro-Lisbon. They're just blackmailing the government with conditionality. Every single piece of positive legislation in Ireland about workers rights in the last forty years has come from the EU. Funny also, how every single government in Europe ratified it. Do you think they would give up their own power? Do you understand European politics at all?
You guys in ireland are FUCKED! All of Europe is the NEW SOVIET UNION! You people are so fucking screwed. And the funny thing is you dumb fucks won't believe this shit. hahahahahahahhahahaha. Enjoy your concentration camps and gulags and secret prisons. Oh yea and I am not on a high horse here in America because we are next on the list and everyone here is fucked too because they are all idiots. We are becoming nazi germany. Seriously. People here are fucking idiots.
this is scarier than hell...can't freaking believe this has happened...they didn't vote? byby democracy hello fascism..WHAT THE FUCK???the weather war is scaring the hell out of me too...did you hear about the chile volcano?
The Lisbon treaty is the worst monstrosity in the world to the European people. Its the old EU consititution which the French and the Dutch voted against two years ago, Its a scam set up by people such as Angela Merkel, Tony Blair (Who will become the new EU president - WANTED WAR CRIMINAL) and Bush. The people of Europe must say NO!
4th July 2008 - Have your say...!!
London, outside the House of Parliament, please show up!
Don't just say no, fire all the people that even brought up the suggestion of the corrupt EU, fire them and their families and their friends and their neighbors too.
People will eventually just stay where they are and do what they're told. Enlist, work, breed, pray, buy food, get drunk, pay taxes.
This empire has been running it's economic pyramid scheme for a couple thousand years. Why change now, let's all just go shop till we drop.
France and holland already told europe no,if we vote no europe will only go somewhere else to get the yes vote and they will call it democracy,,the treaty stinks...
que se foda o tratado de lisboa...
the new world order will fail..
humanity will win
pinadeiro 1 year ago
Wow. These Anti-EU, Hitler Loving Crackpots are a Joke. Go Europe! Peace from Holland.
EUROSUN1 2 years ago
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*NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
*YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, IDA, ISME, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Small Firms Association, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Who you going to trust?
urfadder 2 years ago
The only beneficiaries of anything in this Treaty will be the white collar crooks & the Golden circle that we have. Vote No
ANTONELIUSMCGREGOR 2 years ago
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NO vote = we are still in the EU, like we are now, and the EU must be more accountable to the people of Europe. It stops the runaway power of the EU parliament and its gravy train expenses.
YES vote = no way back, we can't undo mistakes made in the treaty or the EU, our say in EU is halved. Some countries say is doubled.
The mature thing is to stand up and tell EU to correct the problems, not to give in to the accusing tut-tutting of EU politicians trying to tell us we should be embarrassed.
EuropesHope 2 years ago
i feel personally sick that its up to us irish to decide for europe! why does it have to be us! thats too much pressure! other countries teln us 2vote no to dictatorship and save them and others saying if we vote no to get out! 2 days til iv 2vote totally confused and not liking it one bit.
minililee 2 years ago
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"In the guise of reform,this treaty will give significant new powers to the EU over almost all aspects of our lives,with a concomitant reduction in Ireland's voting strength and sovereign power .Most frightening of all however is the obscene militarisation of the EU" (Catheline Connolly).
" The Lisbon treaty will lead to a burocratic dictatorship" (Prof.Schachtschneider, Nurenberg University).
WAKE UP BRAVE IRISH !
YES to a democratic Europe,NO to the Lisbon treaty and "president" Blair !
Spenner56 2 years ago
NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Who you going to trust?
urfadder 2 years ago
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The EU is supposed to be a grouping of sovereign countries working together but the Lisbon treaty/constitution will change all that and turn the EU into a legal entity that is SUPERIOR in law to sovereign countries,laws and constitutions !
The EU didn't even have the decency to ask us if we wanted to become EU "citizens"...apart from the French,Dutch and brave Irish who ALL SAID NO !
The Swedish presidency is already working on an EU-wide ban on alchohol in shops !
No2Lisbon2 !
Spenner56 2 years ago
The ECB didn't cause the recession, our own lack of forward planning and a dependence on the construction sector did.
If the IRISH central bank / financial regulator had actually regulated our OWN banks, then we could have avoided NAMA & a fair amount of this mess.
Ireland comprises 3% of the Eurozone economy, therefore, true, we will have a minimal say in Euro Interest rates; however, on the plus side, the Euro did not plumet when Ireland's economy crashed as the Irish punt would have.
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
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« The EU is certainly playing, and will continue to play, a central role in shaping the new order that is gradually emerging..the EU is the natural starting point for any effort to improve global governance »
( José Barosso, President of the un-elected « commission ).
"The need to bolster Europe's military capabilities to match our aspirations is more urgent than ever"
(Javier Solana as European Defence Agency Chief).
WHAT "aspirations" ?
Google : European Gendarmerie Force,No2Lisbon2.
Spenner56 2 years ago
VOTE NO TO LISBON!!!!
griffin6290 2 years ago
The truth is that even now Robert Mugabe has a greater democratic legitimacy than the EU. Mugabe has been elected often in the past though now his mandate has run out - The EU Commission has NEVER been elected & the peoples of France, Holland & Ireland have VOTED NO to the new constitution/Lisbon Treaty threatening the snouts of the politicians and parasites with losing their troughs on the gravy train. The corrupt central State is determined, like Mugabe, to force new votes for personal gain!
Greg260146 3 years ago 4
I think ireland should leave the EU !!! and take the 5 trillion euros in natural gas and oil with us !!!!!!!
oliversinhell 3 years ago 3
I could'nt agree more Ollie. And for the added reason that we sold our fisheries down the swaney (forgive the pun) 120billion approx and recieved just 52billion in return.. The Euro note does'nt go far anyhow!!
kingofcelts 3 years ago
I think that is the best thing that should be done,5 trillion euros of gas and oil would go a long way in Ireland,since we are just an Island.and we do not consume as much energy as other Countries,especially with the oil crisis around the corner.
Elevationary 3 years ago
My own feeling is that to the EU , Ireland is just a piggy bank , nobody knows how much minerals and fossil fuels are waiting to be exploited off our coasts ! will we see any of it ? I'd doubt it ! we should be like Norway , keep out of the EU keep our oil and gas , and become a very wealthy nation !
oliversinhell 3 years ago
What oil??!?! Thats pure speculation and has nothing to do with the EU! Britain has oil and has benefitted from it! The reason multinationals have our gas is our own fault! We allowed them free exploration so that someone would explore! And so we could tax their profit! That was OUR fault... nothing to do with Shell or the EU!
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
i'll never understand why the irish
after finally chasing us brits out
then go and sign up to be part of another empire
except this one isnt killing us with tanks
its killing us with banks
y559djr 2 years ago
You conveniently forgot that our own banks almost brought us down, with the ECB we'd be Iceland!
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
Typo above: That should read "without the ECB".
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
Ya, because thats really working in Corrib isn't it
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
Hold on my friend Holland voted gainst Europe like France that should include your fellow countrymen and women,
donegal2 3 years ago
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IRELAND PEOPLE!
DON'T GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTIES!
VOTE NO -for your Beloved Children!
VOTE NO -for the sake of your Beautiful Country!
VOTE NO -for the sake of the Whole World!
VOTE NO -for Messing Up the Plans of the New World Order.
IRELAND!
JUNE 12TH!
VOTE NO!
CairoGang 3 years ago 2
If ireland votes no, than ireland should go.
EU membership is entirely optional. A country can leave the EU at any time. If some people hate the EU so much they should start a campaign to leave.
skatervie 3 years ago
How come the Netherlands didn't have to leave in 2005? The Dutch rejected the EU Constitution by a larger margin than the Irish rejected Lisbon.
The Irish don't hate the EU, they don't like the Lisbon treaty, they don't want to hand over more sovereignty to unelected eurocrats.
If the Irish chose to leave the EU it will be decided by referendum, but there is no desire to leave the EU at all.
jratt2 3 years ago
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IRELAND PEOPLE!
DON'T GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTIES!
VOTE NO -for your Beloved Children!
VOTE NO -for the sake of your Beautiful Country!
VOTE NO -for the sake of the Whole World!
VOTE NO -for Messing Up the Plans of the New World Order.
IRELAND!
JUNE 12TH!
VOTE NO!
CairoGang 3 years ago
EU membership is entirely optional. A country can leave the EU at any time. If some people hate the EU so much they should start a campaign to leave.
skatervie 3 years ago
theres many but money is to good :(.
FightingIrishdotcom 3 years ago
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Bill of fundamental rights - means that EU tells Ireland how many immigrants both legal & illegal Ireland must take in. That these people can be hired for a minimum wage which means Ireland must compete for these wages or lose their jobs.
Ireland do the Europeans a favor & vote No
"Not a superstate that is dilluting the national identity." - Barroso -President of the European Commission
hydra8888 3 years ago 2
If ireland votes no, than ireland must go
skatervie 3 years ago
away we go then
FightingIrishdotcom 3 years ago
out of all 450million europeans, only 4 million are getting to vote on this.
ireland is the only nation to vote, know why? cos other nations have been told its too complex a referendum to understand, so they dont trust their people!!
i'm not voting for two reasons, first off as a nation were very uninformed about this, and more importantly, i'll be falling around amsterdam, smoking and drinking my brains out on thursday morning.
jimmyevo 3 years ago
sorry mate i made a video for people that dont understand why :).
FightingIrishdotcom 3 years ago
I am voting no but not for any of the reasons coir go on about. they are actually doing a disservice to the no campaign with all their lies and loony claims. even the bishops seem to be critical of them.
pk81818181 3 years ago
Everything on Cóir's posters is a blatant lie or else has nothing to do with the Lisbon Treaty !
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
Take taxes for instance:
Taxes are not there solely for the upkeep of the highway's etc. Taxes exist also to take power away from the people.
Think about that. Why, for instance, do you pay taxes on an inheritance or when you buy a house?
Why is it that people that save up their income pay taxes over their savings but people that take loans can deduct their interest payments?
People with money have more freedom...
People with land have even more freedom...
People in debt are slaves...
Necarsus 3 years ago
Ireland, this is your chance to slow down fascism in Europe. Say NO! as the French and the Dutch have.
Let's turn this around so we can once again be free. No, you are not free. You are a slave.
Necarsus 3 years ago
So why are so many fascists telling us to vote no?
pk81818181 3 years ago
because of their romantic 19th century national feeling.
guerno1 3 years ago
The Lisbon Treaty has NOTHING to do with abortion: the catholic church have themselves declared this. FYI SIPTU, one of Ireland's largest unions are pro-Lisbon. They're just blackmailing the government with conditionality. Every single piece of positive legislation in Ireland about workers rights in the last forty years has come from the EU. Funny also, how every single government in Europe ratified it. Do you think they would give up their own power? Do you understand European politics at all?
Fishbulb 3 years ago
Finally, some truth on this comment page!
HowNowBrownCow27 2 years ago
all 40,000 taxi drivers vote no
supermc1916 3 years ago 3
if the Irish people Vote Yes 12 June for this Treaty their ASS's will be finished.DON"T DO IT IRELAND.
BigFatTonyCal 3 years ago
You guys in ireland are FUCKED! All of Europe is the NEW SOVIET UNION! You people are so fucking screwed. And the funny thing is you dumb fucks won't believe this shit. hahahahahahahhahahaha. Enjoy your concentration camps and gulags and secret prisons. Oh yea and I am not on a high horse here in America because we are next on the list and everyone here is fucked too because they are all idiots. We are becoming nazi germany. Seriously. People here are fucking idiots.
scientistwriter 3 years ago
this is scarier than hell...can't freaking believe this has happened...they didn't vote? byby democracy hello fascism..WHAT THE FUCK???the weather war is scaring the hell out of me too...did you hear about the chile volcano?
dellsprospects2 3 years ago
Just get ready for the world government and 80% population reduction plan.
scientistwriter 3 years ago
The Lisbon treaty is the worst monstrosity in the world to the European people. Its the old EU consititution which the French and the Dutch voted against two years ago, Its a scam set up by people such as Angela Merkel, Tony Blair (Who will become the new EU president - WANTED WAR CRIMINAL) and Bush. The people of Europe must say NO!
4th July 2008 - Have your say...!!
London, outside the House of Parliament, please show up!
/watch?v=3Lxcq8fGY9w
BreakingTheMatrix 3 years ago 2
Don't just say no, fire all the people that even brought up the suggestion of the corrupt EU, fire them and their families and their friends and their neighbors too.
People will eventually just stay where they are and do what they're told. Enlist, work, breed, pray, buy food, get drunk, pay taxes.
This empire has been running it's economic pyramid scheme for a couple thousand years. Why change now, let's all just go shop till we drop.
The Pope isn't the only one buggering the world.
Slavesrevolt 3 years ago 3
Think abortian,divorce,same sex marraige and PREEMPTIVE DISARMANENT ACTIONS are bad?
Then vote no or we will be forced to accept these things.
The church dont like it,the unions dont like it,france and holland didnt like it.
I would rather be poor and honest than rich and owned.
macker33 3 years ago 3
The thing is, eventually we'll be POOR and owned, so JUST SAY NO!!
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago 3
France and holland already told europe no,if we vote no europe will only go somewhere else to get the yes vote and they will call it democracy,,the treaty stinks...
macker33 3 years ago 3
But let's not make it easy to those buggers!! Feck the NWO!
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago 3
lol @ wacko jocko
colmmernagh 3 years ago