Why is it that the two top comments are so negative? I came here for theological discussions as I'm a Christian who is interested in studying pagan faiths. This is not the kind of attention you guys want.
I absolutely loved this video. It reminds me of when my great-great grandparents came to America from Finland, they planted a tree on their farm for each member of the family. The father's (my great-great grandfather) tree mysteriously fell over into the river on the day of his death, and so did the mother's (great-great grandmother). I can tell that they brought the idea of a sacred tree over with them from Finland, and I will be sure to pass it on myself when I have a family.
in estonia here are a lot of holy places what are still existed, i didnt know that in finland there are these trees too cause you take much earlier lutherian religion. anyway in mariland this region is still in honor. but in estonian we have a such a word like pagan. is this in english too?
@1NX9 thara believers are beliving to tharapita, the holy ancient estonian god. but the people who belive maausk -they belive that everywhere are spirits. they´re one with nature or do i have to say that they were, cause other nations destroyed this ancient estonian religion and pushed christianism to our greatgrandparents. you can visit the webpage like maavald.ee. there are talking about these things.
I am really looking for this stuff and any information you can get me would be highly appreciated, so if any one here is kind enough, I would be really grateful if you drop me a line!
I'm not sure what this is about, I'm not even a Christian but I do know if you actually read the bible in the book of John it says Jesus existed before the world was made, outside time and space, and that there is nothing that was made that Jesus didn't make. It says it plain as day in the first four sentences... watch out before you call someone an idiot when you make a completely incorrect assertion yourself.
in the first 4 sentences it says HE, not jesus, you fail, and since the bible says there are others sons of god, hmmm, which HE??? are you wanna of those flat earthers? or believe bats are birds, or four legged birds???, I stand by what I wrote, you fail
It says "The Word", not "HE", and the Word is identified as Jesus.
I never said that the Bible was true, just going by what it says: You can't discredit something based on what it didn't say because you misconstrue it.
BTW, when you resort to childish statements like "you fail" and attacking someone for things they didn't say any conversation is over and the person doing it "fails."
The Celtic Tree(Druid) calendar: it's a solar calendar, with thirteen months of 28 days apiece. There is an extra day (two days in leap years) at the end of the year. The months are named after trees:
though true in what you said there are many ways of understanding, poetry , or poesis as Graves stated is one way, Celts were very fond ot the word and play involved, LOL
there is histroy which can only speak to what is written, and the a kind of gnosis, and though I would say Graves jumped the shark couch and the fence, he did give some interesing insights, they may not be historical, the histirical natures still can be seen as serving a purpose, lol
Christians didn't steal anything, only English people call "hell" "Hell", which actually comes from the name of the dump in ancient Jerusalem that never stopped burning... Sheol. Neither did they steal "easter", again, only English people call it that, everyone else calls it "Pascha" or "Paska" and they were celebrating it before English people even knew how to write.
boy you are not doing well are you Hell i derived from the word hel,and other northern european sources, now you wanna talk about Gehenna the waiting place or Sheol the place of the dead, the burrowed place? hmm, your mythology is subpar and nonstandard,in the Judeo-Christian sense to translate the Greek word Gehenna — a term which originally referred to a valley outside Jerusalem used for burning refuse, but came to designate the place of punishment for sinners. so sad
Read a history book. Hel is the name of the Norse goddess of death and the Underworld. In order to convert more people, they just started calling Sheol Hell to make it sound more familiar. Most Christian holidays are stolen pagan rites. Christmas is basically the Saturnalia moved to the date when Sol Invictus was honored. You did get the part about Sheol being a dump right though.
I am a pagan and almost all of this "They stole it!" stuff is BS that will one day discredit paganism if we base our apologetics on it. Sol Invictus wasn't worshipped until the second century, well after Christianity is known to have developed and spread all the way from Britain to Ethiopia and India: Places also where they celebrate the birth of Christ in midwinter but never heard of Sol Invictus, Saturnalia or Yule, and were always outside the rule of Roman authorities or Roman Christians.
wrong about invictus being worshipped since 2nd cent, most scholars now believe sun worship has a basically unbroken line, again picking and choosing your ideas, hmm sounds more xian than pagan to me, whatever, in true spirit Have a Great Holiday, also you think only in small term there is evidence of syncreticism in many places,
You've got your facts wrong dude. Read any book on Roman religion, and it will tell you that Christmas is based on the festival of Sol Invictus. Not just the pagan books, but the scholarly ones too will tell you this. Christianity is basically a crazy mix of various mystery religions and the ravings of a Jewish criminal. By proving their holidays are stolen, we are disproving their religion, not ours. Besides, I'm into the Aztec.
This was a joy to watch. We had precicely the same tradisions here in Norway some few centuries ago, and indeed all of northern pagan Europe worshiped trees in the old days.
Glad you liked it. Yes, tree worship seems to have been a pretty much universal phenomenon. I just read a book about shamans among peoples in Russia and there were some pictures of sacrifical trees on shaman's drums.
The music is from an album called Wizard Women of the North. Actually, I believe this particular song is by a Norwegian artist :)
@Treewich Some of my neighbors put dead animals, mushrooms, plastic babies, carved faces (Egyptian, Sigil, pentacle, and other animal faces), and other random stuff.
They do this in a grove of trees, its fairly thick and full of bones. In the center of the grove is a circle with some sort of stone altar. I was just curious what type of people believe in this because they killed my cats, can you please help. They wear black robes, some have yellow on the inside, some are all black.
@Treewich Sorry I forgot to say that they put the "offerings" up high in trees, they have a tree with a "mummy" in it, it looks like a human wrapped up its creepy.
Excellent, indeed, thank you!
If you are Finn, you may like to know that I have on facebook a little photo album dedicated to Olavi Lanu’s Carelian birches.
And probably you would like the religious views I declare on the info page.
Greetings from Siena, Tuscany,
Marco Bucciarelli
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Why is it that the two top comments are so negative? I came here for theological discussions as I'm a Christian who is interested in studying pagan faiths. This is not the kind of attention you guys want.
piechildofyore 1 month ago
I come from far more south than Finland, although am a follower of Finnish Paganism, as weel as count Finland as my homeland.
Rocketpojet 3 months ago
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I absolutely loved this video. It reminds me of when my great-great grandparents came to America from Finland, they planted a tree on their farm for each member of the family. The father's (my great-great grandfather) tree mysteriously fell over into the river on the day of his death, and so did the mother's (great-great grandmother). I can tell that they brought the idea of a sacred tree over with them from Finland, and I will be sure to pass it on myself when I have a family.
WynterSong 5 months ago
time, holy time, is endless but is full of beginnings
maybealover 5 months ago
i hate christianity
killerkandi133 7 months ago in playlist Finnish Folklore
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Trees always humble me. Their wisdom, their power.
Samhainmisfit123 1 year ago
Join with "Suomen merkki - hiisi" (look: Facebook)
dharmakirjastus 1 year ago
very nice
Riscet4ever 1 year ago
Se on suuri tragedia kuinka paljon Suomen historiaa katosi uhrilehtojen ja muun vanhan kansan palvontapaikkojen mukana :(
Aivottaja 1 year ago
@Aivottaja
Uhrilehto? Sille on oma parempi sana olemassa - hiisi.
dharmakirjastus 1 year ago
@dharmakirjastus
Käsittääkseni hiisi voi tarkoittaa muutakin, joten katsoisin uhrilehdon soveliaammaksi.
Aivottaja 1 year ago
in estonia here are a lot of holy places what are still existed, i didnt know that in finland there are these trees too cause you take much earlier lutherian religion. anyway in mariland this region is still in honor. but in estonian we have a such a word like pagan. is this in english too?
eestimaalane 1 year ago
@eestimaalane
I'm curious what is Estonian paganism like? What do they beleive in?
1NX9 1 year ago
@1NX9 thara believers are beliving to tharapita, the holy ancient estonian god. but the people who belive maausk -they belive that everywhere are spirits. they´re one with nature or do i have to say that they were, cause other nations destroyed this ancient estonian religion and pushed christianism to our greatgrandparents. you can visit the webpage like maavald.ee. there are talking about these things.
eestimaalane 1 year ago
@eestimaalane
Thank you eestimaalane. Its appreciated. I will research more. Ancient Estonian religion is fascinating!
1NX9 1 year ago
Wanhat Jumalat kunniiaan! Alas jeesus ja kristilliset humanistit!
Subotaiable 1 year ago
I am really looking for this stuff and any information you can get me would be highly appreciated, so if any one here is kind enough, I would be really grateful if you drop me a line!
nodeterin 2 years ago
Wonderful video! Hail the Gods!
WyattKaldenberg 2 years ago
You have no idea how greatly I needed this information, Paljon Kiitoksia!
I might not worship trees, but they are sacred to me, their wisdom and their power to hold all life together is not to be underestimated.
nodeterin 2 years ago
you dont worship the creation you worship the creater Jesus
thecat11111 2 years ago
so if you believe it... that would be God the creator... not Jesus, the supposed son of God. I worship trees - they're real.
5ubv3rt3d 2 years ago 3
@thecat11111 um jEsus didnt create anything god did jesus is his sun, and per newton who is smarter than you will ever be, is not god
goldgrif 2 years ago
I'm not sure what this is about, I'm not even a Christian but I do know if you actually read the bible in the book of John it says Jesus existed before the world was made, outside time and space, and that there is nothing that was made that Jesus didn't make. It says it plain as day in the first four sentences... watch out before you call someone an idiot when you make a completely incorrect assertion yourself.
ambrosiustranquillus 2 years ago
in the first 4 sentences it says HE, not jesus, you fail, and since the bible says there are others sons of god, hmmm, which HE??? are you wanna of those flat earthers? or believe bats are birds, or four legged birds???, I stand by what I wrote, you fail
goldgrif 2 years ago
It says "The Word", not "HE", and the Word is identified as Jesus.
I never said that the Bible was true, just going by what it says: You can't discredit something based on what it didn't say because you misconstrue it.
BTW, when you resort to childish statements like "you fail" and attacking someone for things they didn't say any conversation is over and the person doing it "fails."
ambrosiustranquillus 2 years ago
but HE can be any of the Sons of God, again picking and choosingwhat to believe,
goldgrif 2 years ago
The Celtic Tree(Druid) calendar: it's a solar calendar, with thirteen months of 28 days apiece. There is an extra day (two days in leap years) at the end of the year. The months are named after trees:
MereRana 2 years ago
That's a mistake made by Robert Graves, who decided to ignore the experts he consulted, and who had told him the mistake he was making.
whateley23 2 years ago
though true in what you said there are many ways of understanding, poetry , or poesis as Graves stated is one way, Celts were very fond ot the word and play involved, LOL
there is histroy which can only speak to what is written, and the a kind of gnosis, and though I would say Graves jumped the shark couch and the fence, he did give some interesing insights, they may not be historical, the histirical natures still can be seen as serving a purpose, lol
goldgrif 2 years ago
OK, but the calendar is neither "Celtic" nor "Druid". It is Graves's own personal invention. Credit where it is due, not misapplied.
whateley23 2 years ago
oh, certainly I agree, lol
goldgrif 2 years ago
Beth (Birch), Luis (Rowan), Nuin (Ash), Fearn (Alder), Saille (Willow), Huath (Hawthorn), uir (Oak), Tinne (Holly), Coll (Hazel), Muin (Vine), Gort (Ivy), Ngetal (Reed), Ruis (Elder)
MereRana 2 years ago
Beith (Birch), Lus (Flame), Fern (Alder), Sail (Willow), Nin (Letters), H-Uath (Terror), Dair (Oak), Tinne (Ingot), Coll (Hazel), Ceirt (Rag), Muin (Love), Gort (Garden), Ngetal (Wound), Straif (Sulfur), Ruis (Redness), Ailm (Cry), Onn (Foundation), Ur (Soil), Edad (?), Idad (?). Not all of them are trees.
whateley23 2 years ago
Thank you. That was awesome.
autumnenergy 2 years ago
Damn Christians, I hope they all burn in the Hell they're so fond of preaching about, the name of which the STOLE from Norse religion.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago 6
Christians didn't steal anything, only English people call "hell" "Hell", which actually comes from the name of the dump in ancient Jerusalem that never stopped burning... Sheol. Neither did they steal "easter", again, only English people call it that, everyone else calls it "Pascha" or "Paska" and they were celebrating it before English people even knew how to write.
ambrosiustranquillus 2 years ago
boy you are not doing well are you Hell i derived from the word hel,and other northern european sources, now you wanna talk about Gehenna the waiting place or Sheol the place of the dead, the burrowed place? hmm, your mythology is subpar and nonstandard,in the Judeo-Christian sense to translate the Greek word Gehenna — a term which originally referred to a valley outside Jerusalem used for burning refuse, but came to designate the place of punishment for sinners. so sad
goldgrif 2 years ago
Read a history book. Hel is the name of the Norse goddess of death and the Underworld. In order to convert more people, they just started calling Sheol Hell to make it sound more familiar. Most Christian holidays are stolen pagan rites. Christmas is basically the Saturnalia moved to the date when Sol Invictus was honored. You did get the part about Sheol being a dump right though.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
I am a pagan and almost all of this "They stole it!" stuff is BS that will one day discredit paganism if we base our apologetics on it. Sol Invictus wasn't worshipped until the second century, well after Christianity is known to have developed and spread all the way from Britain to Ethiopia and India: Places also where they celebrate the birth of Christ in midwinter but never heard of Sol Invictus, Saturnalia or Yule, and were always outside the rule of Roman authorities or Roman Christians.
ambrosiustranquillus 2 years ago
wrong about invictus being worshipped since 2nd cent, most scholars now believe sun worship has a basically unbroken line, again picking and choosing your ideas, hmm sounds more xian than pagan to me, whatever, in true spirit Have a Great Holiday, also you think only in small term there is evidence of syncreticism in many places,
goldgrif 2 years ago
You've got your facts wrong dude. Read any book on Roman religion, and it will tell you that Christmas is based on the festival of Sol Invictus. Not just the pagan books, but the scholarly ones too will tell you this. Christianity is basically a crazy mix of various mystery religions and the ravings of a Jewish criminal. By proving their holidays are stolen, we are disproving their religion, not ours. Besides, I'm into the Aztec.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
Thank you very much for this video. It was beautiful. We in the States don't get much info about Finnish paganism.
PragmaticHeathen 2 years ago
This was a joy to watch. We had precicely the same tradisions here in Norway some few centuries ago, and indeed all of northern pagan Europe worshiped trees in the old days.
But the beautiful background music, who is it?
THordasson 2 years ago
Glad you liked it. Yes, tree worship seems to have been a pretty much universal phenomenon. I just read a book about shamans among peoples in Russia and there were some pictures of sacrifical trees on shaman's drums.
The music is from an album called Wizard Women of the North. Actually, I believe this particular song is by a Norwegian artist :)
Treewich 2 years ago
@Treewich Some of my neighbors put dead animals, mushrooms, plastic babies, carved faces (Egyptian, Sigil, pentacle, and other animal faces), and other random stuff.
They do this in a grove of trees, its fairly thick and full of bones. In the center of the grove is a circle with some sort of stone altar. I was just curious what type of people believe in this because they killed my cats, can you please help. They wear black robes, some have yellow on the inside, some are all black.
AmanitaPersicina 11 months ago
@Treewich Sorry I forgot to say that they put the "offerings" up high in trees, they have a tree with a "mummy" in it, it looks like a human wrapped up its creepy.
AmanitaPersicina 11 months ago
awesome
werewolfchewtoy 3 years ago
Interesting
beezerboy94 3 years ago
Kiitos hienosta videosta! Opinpa taas jotain uutta..:)
Inthannon 3 years ago
We have a lot of Fins in the extended family that would love this. Very nice. Thanks for posting!
mardukite 3 years ago