Curious, do you sit in the front office? I know of a jet jockey who does get it to work but where I sit on the aft side, even by a window, I can't get any GPS lock. I heard the bad elf external GPS chip does wonders but no first hand experience myself
@vfrpad You look like a real ass posting your same false information over and over on various videos, not only from your primary account, but also from the @MrThecorrector1 account. We all know that you are trying your best to bash the iPad or anything other than you VFRpad just to help your own business. It's pretty lame...
Oh man! "The 3G model contains A-GPS to allow its position to be calculated with GPS or relative to nearby cellphone towers". GPS assist only works with 3G service, it helps 3G and WiFi locate you. Once again, 3G is prohibited in aircraft, and doesn't work above 800 AGL. Apple created their own type of GPS to through you off. Real GPS works by 3 satellites finding your location in relation to them. Sir, you don't know what you are talking about. I'm starting to feel sorry for you!
What part of I turn off 3G and wireless on the iPad do you not understand? I do not use GPS assist in my flights.
Oh and 3G works higher, up to 3000 on iPad and 5000 on iPhone in my neck of the woods but like you said, FCC doesn't approve.
FAA could care less as there is no FAR regulation that prohibits the use of a cell phone in flight. PIC makes determination of allowable electronic devices.
No Ipad was ever built with a built-in GPS, everybody knows that! To get GPS on an Ipad you have to get an external on, and the only ones that work on it are bluetooth. So just drop it, the Apple Ipad is not an aviation tool, nor even close to being a EFB.The reason I am commenting on your videos is, you are pushing the Ipad. It is just wrong! I like all your other videos, but the Ipad thing is just bad!
What part do you not understand that I am using the BUILT IN GPS chip on the iPad in my flights. No exrternal devices are being used or transmitting to my iPad.
And in order to get GPS on an Ipad, you have to connect a Bluetooth GPS to the Ipad. Against FAA regulations. You sir, are the one noone should fly with, plus you are committing FAA regulations violations, and posting it all over the world!!!!!
A. PIC determines what electronic device is allowed on part 91 flights. Don't believe me, look it up in FARS.
B. WRONG on your GPS theory as I am using the iPad built in GPS. Dont believe me, watch the videos I have uploaded MY VIDEOS show and prove I am operating within FAR regulations.
Again you are clearly showing your incompetence, almost too funny.
Ok, sense you wanted to go further. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit using the radio of wireless devices while in the air. The effect of using Bluetooth technology on an aircraft is unknown. Such use might affect aircraft instrumentation, communication, and performance, might disrupt the network, might otherwise be dangerous to the operation of the aircraft, and might be illegal.
I give-up, but we all heard it. Just another Ipad dealer trying to pawn something that doesn't work on us pilots.
I don't have a product, I am just a pilot dealing with the fact I paid $1100 dollars to try and make the Ipad work for me. It is junk, so I found another company that made a better product. Now I stand behind it, and now I want everyone to know, before it is to late! Don't bother responding, we got it! Junk!
Then how do you do this, magic? Then you are admitting the information is not real world, and present data? You downloaded some information in an update at home, then you are taking this old data and flying with it.
I REPEAT, Yes, I download CURRENT approach plates and IFR enroute (or VFR sectional) night before flight but I access them IN FLIGHT without 3G or wireless in the plane AND can track myself on the iPad in ForeFlight.
AGAIN, all on video in my channel if you don't believe me.
As I see it, your product does nothing more, in fact does less then what is available in ForeFlight since I assume you dont support IFR.
Ok, then I challenge anyone to go up in the air with an Ipad II, no internet, with no aftermarket supplies, and try and get information off ForeFlight? Post the video, under the name " Foreflight without internet". It won't happen because it says right on their website it needs internet, this guy does know 3-4G is cellular internet right!
Look at my videos for god sake. IT's ALREADY UP LIKE I SAID in my previous comment!!!! What part of this do you not understand?
I can access approach plates, all sectionals, AFD FROM THE AIRPLANE and track myself right on the sectionals or IFR enroute charts WITHOUT 3G or wireless. I can access my flight briefings and cached weather images.
I am purposely leaving these comments up because I HATE SPAMMERS and even worse SPAMMERS that post incorrect information.
ForeFlight is totally internet dependent, if you don't have internet, it doesn't work. How many pilots get internet above 800 AGL, none! So how does it help us pilots? At home on my couch with my WiFi, it works great for downloading free maps and plates that ForeFlight is charging me for.Everyone knows that all that information is free from the FAA right!
You DO NOT need internet access to use ForeFlight in the plane. I have plenty of videos to prove this on my channel from the comforts of 7000 feet and below
If you plan to SPAM other videos. at least post right information!!!!!!!!!
You don't need to try and make Ipad work as a flight tool. Ipad II costs $599 then you have to buy a external GPS, then all the many software, none of them do everything you need, so you are looking at over $1000! Then you will still not have everything you need. OR you can just buy an EFB, I have a VFRpad, it has everything built-in, no update costs. I paid $425!
Do your research before you continue to look like a spammer without a clue what they are talking about.
Let's just start in that no external GPS is needed and I talk first hand experience. Secondly, I get far more use out of the iPad use not only for aviation.
Thirdly I fly IFR, what good is your product for me on a IFR flight that Foreflght can't do.
I haven't even looked at your product since you spammed my videos. Are updated sectional free?
I'd also be interested on what your product would do that ForeFlight doesnt do on a VFR flight.
I bought the iPad without aviation considerations. 79 yearly fee sure more economical then what you provide. It would take 6 years worth of yearly renewals to exceed the cost ot what you spammed my videos with.
Thanks for the vid! Where are you based? I have found some great iPad mounts that will work in the cockpit if you want to share with your followers. How are you recording the audio in the cockpit of your videos?
I use a digital recorder outside the camera since my camera lacks an audio in. I have a video showing my audio and camera on my channel called video and audio setup. Since I can't post a link in comments I will PM you the direct link to the video
I have decided to hold out and buy the lightspeed zulus instead. I will wait for the next version of the ipad which apparently will come out next year.
Worse than a mirror LOL. You can't even see your own reflection.
Seriously though, under normal lighting in IMC or below an overcast, it will work great. Bright sun where you can't angle it in the shade on your lap, you are right, just not going to make the cut.
thanks for posting this. I've been debating my next device. I'm on blackberry now. iphone? droid? maybe an ipad? I'm at about 12 hours now and the instructor's starting to talk about the upcoming solo and then cross countries. I wonder if too much "tech" in the plane too early will mess me up. I know during initial training, they're not even letting us think about turning on the GPS. But I envision myself using as many gadgets as I can once I get PPL. :)
Please be sure your instructor shows you how to use that GPS. I got a lashing on my checkride for not knowing how to use that durn thing. My instructor (old school) got even a bigger lashing.
I'm like you, use every tool in your toolkit. Be rest assured your E6B will MOST LIKELY not be one of them once you enter the real world :-) Time to retire that puppy and get basic PPL training up to speed with today's technology.
What time? If you do pattern work I can come out and video you from the outside. No doubt you will be using 17 so I can camp out on the parking lot on the north end of the field. LOL.
Not sure how recent he showed you but there was an update on Tuesday that really ramped up the quality of the program since the making of this video. Enough so that I did the one year subscription :-)
Weather Gods behaving, I will run it through it's paces inflight on Sunday for a breakfast run to KMEI.
I've got a 3g model on order but don't plan on paying the monthly cell bill. I'll just use the integrated gps for additional situational awareness on the maps. Again, good video!
Unlike most cell phones, I **don't think** the Ipad has an integrated GPS chip. At least everything I am reading in Google search says this. GPS function is assisted by wireless and the 3G network (not sure about extended networks)
When I turned off wireless and 3G, the mapping only cached the immediate area where I am. It would not map a trip without internet access. May be a different function, dunno but doesn't behave like a normal handheld GPS. Food for thought anyway.
Ok, a little clarification as I did find out indeed the iPad has a GPS chip. Taken from gpsreview-net
"This means that the GPS chip gets “assistance” finding your location by first approximating your location based on nearby wifi signals as well as nearby cellular towers. Since it will typically be getting this assistance the GPS chip itself is of lower power than those found in a dedicated GPS device and thus isn’t quite as good at pulling in weaker GPS signals"
This does work at high atitiudes btw. Use it quite a bit at 35 to 38,000 feet
p1ayn 8 months ago
@p1ayn
Curious, do you sit in the front office? I know of a jet jockey who does get it to work but where I sit on the aft side, even by a window, I can't get any GPS lock. I heard the bad elf external GPS chip does wonders but no first hand experience myself
BeechSundowner 8 months ago
@vfrpad You look like a real ass posting your same false information over and over on various videos, not only from your primary account, but also from the @MrThecorrector1 account. We all know that you are trying your best to bash the iPad or anything other than you VFRpad just to help your own business. It's pretty lame...
kurtsnyder 10 months ago
I turned off 3G in flight? Now your trying to cover for yourself? This is sad!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
Wrong, videos I have uploaded shows 3G is turned off. Nothing to cover.
As I stated before, videos i uploaded show I am in full compliance with FARS AND FCC regulations.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
Oh man! "The 3G model contains A-GPS to allow its position to be calculated with GPS or relative to nearby cellphone towers". GPS assist only works with 3G service, it helps 3G and WiFi locate you. Once again, 3G is prohibited in aircraft, and doesn't work above 800 AGL. Apple created their own type of GPS to through you off. Real GPS works by 3 satellites finding your location in relation to them. Sir, you don't know what you are talking about. I'm starting to feel sorry for you!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
What part of I turn off 3G and wireless on the iPad do you not understand? I do not use GPS assist in my flights.
Oh and 3G works higher, up to 3000 on iPad and 5000 on iPhone in my neck of the woods but like you said, FCC doesn't approve.
FAA could care less as there is no FAR regulation that prohibits the use of a cell phone in flight. PIC makes determination of allowable electronic devices.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
No Ipad was ever built with a built-in GPS, everybody knows that! To get GPS on an Ipad you have to get an external on, and the only ones that work on it are bluetooth. So just drop it, the Apple Ipad is not an aviation tool, nor even close to being a EFB.The reason I am commenting on your videos is, you are pushing the Ipad. It is just wrong! I like all your other videos, but the Ipad thing is just bad!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
WRONG AGAIN.
iPad with 3G capability have an independent GPS chip. iPad with wifi only, you are correct, no GPS chip but I do have the 3G model.
Don't believe me, look it up on the Apple website.
I turn off wifi and wireless while in flight to ensure GPS stays locked on satellites without "assist"
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
@vfrpad
To clarify previous comment I turn off 3G and wireless in flight to ensure GPS stays locked on satellites.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
91 only references legal electronic devices, not transmitting devices (game boys, dvd players, cd players)! You are hopeless!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
What part do you not understand that I am using the BUILT IN GPS chip on the iPad in my flights. No exrternal devices are being used or transmitting to my iPad.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
And in order to get GPS on an Ipad, you have to connect a Bluetooth GPS to the Ipad. Against FAA regulations. You sir, are the one noone should fly with, plus you are committing FAA regulations violations, and posting it all over the world!!!!!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
WRONG.
A. PIC determines what electronic device is allowed on part 91 flights. Don't believe me, look it up in FARS.
B. WRONG on your GPS theory as I am using the iPad built in GPS. Dont believe me, watch the videos I have uploaded MY VIDEOS show and prove I am operating within FAR regulations.
Again you are clearly showing your incompetence, almost too funny.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
Ok, sense you wanted to go further. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit using the radio of wireless devices while in the air. The effect of using Bluetooth technology on an aircraft is unknown. Such use might affect aircraft instrumentation, communication, and performance, might disrupt the network, might otherwise be dangerous to the operation of the aircraft, and might be illegal.
vfrpad 11 months ago
I give-up, but we all heard it. Just another Ipad dealer trying to pawn something that doesn't work on us pilots.
I don't have a product, I am just a pilot dealing with the fact I paid $1100 dollars to try and make the Ipad work for me. It is junk, so I found another company that made a better product. Now I stand behind it, and now I want everyone to know, before it is to late! Don't bother responding, we got it! Junk!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
Yeah, for as much MISINFORMATION you are posting on comments you would be the last pilot I'd want to fly with.
If you paid $1100, you paid too much, that I can tell you (probably more misinformation, but doesn't matter to me)
My videos that already have been uploaded well before YOU SPAMMED my videos PROVE you WRONG.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago 3
Then how do you do this, magic? Then you are admitting the information is not real world, and present data? You downloaded some information in an update at home, then you are taking this old data and flying with it.
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
WRONG AGAIN
I fly with current charts.
I REPEAT, Yes, I download CURRENT approach plates and IFR enroute (or VFR sectional) night before flight but I access them IN FLIGHT without 3G or wireless in the plane AND can track myself on the iPad in ForeFlight.
AGAIN, all on video in my channel if you don't believe me.
As I see it, your product does nothing more, in fact does less then what is available in ForeFlight since I assume you dont support IFR.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
Ok, then I challenge anyone to go up in the air with an Ipad II, no internet, with no aftermarket supplies, and try and get information off ForeFlight? Post the video, under the name " Foreflight without internet". It won't happen because it says right on their website it needs internet, this guy does know 3-4G is cellular internet right!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
WRONG AGAIN!!!!
Look at my videos for god sake. IT's ALREADY UP LIKE I SAID in my previous comment!!!! What part of this do you not understand?
I can access approach plates, all sectionals, AFD FROM THE AIRPLANE and track myself right on the sectionals or IFR enroute charts WITHOUT 3G or wireless. I can access my flight briefings and cached weather images.
I am purposely leaving these comments up because I HATE SPAMMERS and even worse SPAMMERS that post incorrect information.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago 2
ForeFlight is totally internet dependent, if you don't have internet, it doesn't work. How many pilots get internet above 800 AGL, none! So how does it help us pilots? At home on my couch with my WiFi, it works great for downloading free maps and plates that ForeFlight is charging me for.Everyone knows that all that information is free from the FAA right!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
WRONG!!!!!!!!
You DO NOT need internet access to use ForeFlight in the plane. I have plenty of videos to prove this on my channel from the comforts of 7000 feet and below
If you plan to SPAM other videos. at least post right information!!!!!!!!!
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
You don't need to try and make Ipad work as a flight tool. Ipad II costs $599 then you have to buy a external GPS, then all the many software, none of them do everything you need, so you are looking at over $1000! Then you will still not have everything you need. OR you can just buy an EFB, I have a VFRpad, it has everything built-in, no update costs. I paid $425!
vfrpad 11 months ago
@vfrpad
Do your research before you continue to look like a spammer without a clue what they are talking about.
Let's just start in that no external GPS is needed and I talk first hand experience. Secondly, I get far more use out of the iPad use not only for aviation.
Thirdly I fly IFR, what good is your product for me on a IFR flight that Foreflght can't do.
I haven't even looked at your product since you spammed my videos. Are updated sectional free?
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
@vfrpad
I'd also be interested on what your product would do that ForeFlight doesnt do on a VFR flight.
I bought the iPad without aviation considerations. 79 yearly fee sure more economical then what you provide. It would take 6 years worth of yearly renewals to exceed the cost ot what you spammed my videos with.
BeechSundowner 11 months ago
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vfrpad 11 months ago
Thanks for the vid! Where are you based? I have found some great iPad mounts that will work in the cockpit if you want to share with your followers. How are you recording the audio in the cockpit of your videos?
142divot 1 year ago
I use a digital recorder outside the camera since my camera lacks an audio in. I have a video showing my audio and camera on my channel called video and audio setup. Since I can't post a link in comments I will PM you the direct link to the video
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
I have decided to hold out and buy the lightspeed zulus instead. I will wait for the next version of the ipad which apparently will come out next year.
marick626 1 year ago
Nice program. iPad however is totally useless in the cockpit without an antiglare film! And even then. It looks more like a mirror than an EFB.
Leleandfriends 1 year ago
Worse than a mirror LOL. You can't even see your own reflection.
Seriously though, under normal lighting in IMC or below an overcast, it will work great. Bright sun where you can't angle it in the shade on your lap, you are right, just not going to make the cut.
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
Hmmm, quite interesting indeed! I still use all the fancy stuff with my trusty E6B. ForeFlight...I'll check it out. ; )
VIR092 1 year ago
thanks for posting this. I've been debating my next device. I'm on blackberry now. iphone? droid? maybe an ipad? I'm at about 12 hours now and the instructor's starting to talk about the upcoming solo and then cross countries. I wonder if too much "tech" in the plane too early will mess me up. I know during initial training, they're not even letting us think about turning on the GPS. But I envision myself using as many gadgets as I can once I get PPL. :)
robertl30 1 year ago
Please be sure your instructor shows you how to use that GPS. I got a lashing on my checkride for not knowing how to use that durn thing. My instructor (old school) got even a bigger lashing.
I'm like you, use every tool in your toolkit. Be rest assured your E6B will MOST LIKELY not be one of them once you enter the real world :-) Time to retire that puppy and get basic PPL training up to speed with today's technology.
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
@robertl30
once you're done with your instructor, use autopilot and go crazy with the gadgets. Until then, concentrate on flying the plane.
Have fun!
jwboll 1 year ago
What time? If you do pattern work I can come out and video you from the outside. No doubt you will be using 17 so I can camp out on the parking lot on the north end of the field. LOL.
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
Yean, be nice to her!!!! Leave three tires, two wings, rudder, prop and good solid engine for me! When is your next lesson?
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
N5321A school plane. Been 8 years since I been PIC of a Cessna
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
Not sure how recent he showed you but there was an update on Tuesday that really ramped up the quality of the program since the making of this video. Enough so that I did the one year subscription :-)
Weather Gods behaving, I will run it through it's paces inflight on Sunday for a breakfast run to KMEI.
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
I've got a 3g model on order but don't plan on paying the monthly cell bill. I'll just use the integrated gps for additional situational awareness on the maps. Again, good video!
mynameiskevinenglish 1 year ago
Unlike most cell phones, I **don't think** the Ipad has an integrated GPS chip. At least everything I am reading in Google search says this. GPS function is assisted by wireless and the 3G network (not sure about extended networks)
When I turned off wireless and 3G, the mapping only cached the immediate area where I am. It would not map a trip without internet access. May be a different function, dunno but doesn't behave like a normal handheld GPS. Food for thought anyway.
BeechSundowner 1 year ago
Ok, a little clarification as I did find out indeed the iPad has a GPS chip. Taken from gpsreview-net
"This means that the GPS chip gets “assistance” finding your location by first approximating your location based on nearby wifi signals as well as nearby cellular towers. Since it will typically be getting this assistance the GPS chip itself is of lower power than those found in a dedicated GPS device and thus isn’t quite as good at pulling in weaker GPS signals"
BeechSundowner 1 year ago