that dude in the suit in the first row back there, looks like he's thinking about his company's latest merger project or something. he seems completely impervious to the fact that there's a violinist performing unbelievable feats right in front of him.
Si, si, que muy bien, pero DEMASIADO RÁPIDO como para tocar pizzicatos que NO HACE y que están en la partitura. No me imagino a nadie cantándolo a esa velocidad por mucho que corra el caballo. En mi opinión, Hilary hace una versión que RESPETA absolutamente el sentido e intención de la obra.
Schubert ha escrito questa obra per la cantar y non...corrir;Non debe ser lento para nada ,ypero se debe guardar en mente que es escrito per un cantore en primer lugar...hilary Hann,si,respecta questo!!
To all those thinking he's playing it like it was a race or just to show off his skills, you should all be aware of just how difficult this piece is to play and should also understand what its about. Im sure you have heard it differently many times but appreciate his rendition of it. Its truly amazing.
Ein Reiter mit seinem Pferd auf Speed,....das ist kein Reiter auf Entzug, sonder sein Vater mit seinem Sterbenden Kind im Arm.....Hilary Hahn ´´erzählt´´ die Geschichte am besten und richtig...
I love his playing! his technical ability let people ignore the difficulty of the piece, and enjoy the original music of schubert, this most of the violinists can not do.
I like the speed. Take a look at the story behind the original lieder: it's an atmosphere of PANIC! You are riding on a horse, rushing forward, the child is SHRIEKING about getting attacked, the father goes FASTER, etc...
You need a sense of chaos and speed. And notice how he slows down A LOT at the end, to signify the death of the child. It's because he went so fast initially, that he could effectively make this contrast.
@likemyviolin You know this isn't even fast. Idk if you were responding to someone who said it was really fast, perhaps in comparison to Hilary Hahn's, but if you go listen to the Lieder by Schubert, some interpretations are indeed this fast. If you use Schubert's piece, the piece that this piece is based on, as a barometer, Hahn's rendition is much slower than Barati's interpretation is fast.
@fuo213 he does play the music. listen to it again and notice how his phrasing. the funniest part of your statement is that you are implying hahn has the ability to play music with feeling. she is probably one of the most robotic and performers you will come across.
i hate how he stumbles through this piece. no sense of timing at all. it definitely kills any piece of classical music. he can play it as fast as he wants for all i care, but he plays this like a student driver, well...drives. step on the gas, here comes a corner hard on the breaks, passed the corner floor it... a stop sign, step on the breaks. hilary takes it at a more modest tempo in order to get the timing and flow of this piece smooth instead of choppy. though this guy is also talented.
So like, I'm totally convinced that this piece is not actually possible for a human being to play, and that every person who has played this is actually a robot. DON'T TRY TO TELL ME OTHERWISE, MY LOGIC IS FLAWLESS.
After reading comments favoring Barati over Hahn, I went and watched the video of her performance... and I disagree. Sure, he plays faster and has a lot of energy, but his performance was not nearly as refined as Hahn's. There's a difference between playing with rubato and playing with an unidentifiable tempo. There's more musicianship in Hahn's playing, and this one strikes me as just being showy. And whether I can play this piece or not with their skill is irrelevant to my right of OPINION.
@mkurnat i don't know. this is an encore, it's not like it was rehearsed it for a different purpose. if i were giving an encore, i would want it to be showy but that's just me.
This is a story about a life-and-death moment for a child (who dies near the end), while the father rushes home FRANTICALLY on horseback. There is momentum, chaos, speed. It's not a pretty little bel canto opera moment. You need a bit of that "scratch," that TENSION.
You might think this is over-doing it, and that's fine, but you can't just dismiss this as unthoughtful, mindless "showing off" without acknowledging the background of Schubert's original lieder.
well the essence of this piece to achieve that polyphonic sound, since Ernst revolutionized polyphonic playing. So far I think he's got it. Stop arguing about it's too fast.
i've watched this video for now for a couple of years a few and i just only realized his left hand technique. i mean of course i know it has to be great, but his hand shape is so well thought out...and his russian bow hold...reminds me of oistrakh!
@likemyviolin such a great point. he's playing the MUSIC as it should be played. So often, with these transcriptions, the musicality is lost in the technicality, and it so happens, that in the lieder, it is intended to be hurried. Bravo to you.
This is absolutely a stunning performance. I had only heard a recording of Vadim Repin playing it, but had never seen a video performance. It is incredible to see the fingering. I highly recommend the Vadim Repin recording if you are looking for a good recording.
This is absolutely a stunning performance. I had only heard a recording of Vadim Repin playing it, but had never seen a video performance. It is incredible to see the fingering. I highly recommend the Vadim Repin recording if you are looking for a good recording.
What a mess! SLOW DOWN. All the pulse and rhythm is lost at this ridiculous speed...even more so because he cannot properly articulate the rhythm at this pace and musically it just messes up a fine piece.
I take my hat off for performing this in the public. This is a great version. I practise this piece also. I know how difficult it is and everybody who critises this version in any aspect should go ahead and try it him- or herself. To be able to play it at home is already difficult enough not to talk about performing in public. Heifetz used to say, that if you want to play something in public you have to master it 200% because 100% get lost in playing it for an audience.
To master aspecially this piece 200% needs a lots of hardest work.
The question of tempo or voices or any comparison to the original Lied by Schubert is nonsense anyway. Ernst's version is an etude for soloviolin which tries to extend the limits of this instrument to extreme.
Azt hiszem - I think - Kristóf soha nem hallotta Schubert dalát - Kristof have never heard the song of Schubert - különben nem akarná így játszani... - sorry, my English is run out...
This video looks SPED UP. His head movements are not natural. Looks like every 6th frame is taken out or something like that. Besides, his playing is a bit rough.
It's not the tempo difference that bothers me, because there are countless of players who can play a piece fast. (This young man could just as well have had indigestion that day.)
It's more that the collective momentum of the song is lost in blurry, scratchy hiccups, and to me, personally, it takes the emotion away and sounds like some student who just wants to go home and rush through, biting and scratching along the way. A synthesis of Hillary and Barati's interpretation would be interesting.
@Ricepatch1 : Spoken like one who's well below par in mental acumen. 愚か者 I trust you'll find it highly agreeable, to take your fallacious logic to the playground where it belongs if you have nothing neutral or constructive to add on the subject. Don't think most people here need a "Leave Britney alone!!" retort. Take mlcfik's example and try eloquence.
You sound like an educated idiot! What have you brought to the subject but criticism and condemnation? Like I said, lets hear you play it turbo! I bet your a hell of a lot better than this guy playing in front of a crowd that came to see him! Who the hell are you to say he is a bad violinist?
she might be "too sweet", but at least you can hear all her notes and levels of sound. In this recording, he plays too fast and all you can hear are blurred together notes. No melody, no pronunciation of notes. Listen to Hilary again.
@fashisti1 I think I've listened to Hilary's interpretation to make an unbiased conclusion but I liked hers because by slowing it down a bit she could focus on the differences in the voices, it's just my favorite version : \
@fashisti1 But at least we can agree the last two notes (double stops I guess you could call them) were absolutely amazing and personally it's my favorite way for someone to end a piece with a sad ending and story like this.
I'm not sure if it's the sound quality, but his tone is awful scratchy in places. I agree Hahn's interpretation is a bit slow, but it is MUCH easier to listen to.
Who cares. Want to listen to the original buy the schubert song cycles. This piece is written to impress. Nothing more really. Play it as fast as you can....! (As long as you play with accuracy) but it ain't beethoven concerto. It's a showpiece. Go for it! This is an amazing performance!
I wonder if YOU have ever heard the damn song. This is the exact tempo I choose when I'm singing the baritone version of this. The other versions are WAY too slow. Listen to a good voice version of the Erlkönig, like Fischer-Dieskau or Kipnis, and then compare the violin version by Hahn. You'll fall asleep.
I don't think one can extrapolate the Lieder version (accompanied either by orchestra or piano) to the solo violin. If it is played too fast, the various voices interspersed within the music cannot be effectively differentiated, and to be able to distinguish the voices is critical in Erlkonig - or it loses its drama which Goethe has masterfully crafted. In fact, it will lose the drama more readily than if the music is played a tad slower but with every part audible.
I agree, but I was responding to someone (I think he deleted his comment in the meantime) who said that this version was a lot faster than the original version for voice by Schubert. And that's simply not true.
Also, not only being able to distinguish the voices is critical, but also to maintain the energy and momentum displayed in this piece- like the underlying steps of the horse. And that's lost if you play it too slow, in my opinion.
@piasecznik Well, Imagine the pianist playing the accompaniment THIS fast...It's unrealistic it may take a lot of skill and practice to play it so fast, but at this speed, it is nearly impossible to assimilate every note he plays. This might be the speed Schubert intended, but not the speed Ernst intended. This is a violin piece. Every note is supposed to be cherished. That's why I prefer Hahn's interpretation. Just my opinion. Barati is an incredible violinist. I just didn't enjoy this too much
My one issue with this interpretation is that because of the speed, some of the chords end up sounding a bit too short, like he didn't give himself enough time to play them. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be played, but it just seems a bit too rushed for me.
Every interpretation is different. Barati plays it very fast and showy, Hilary Hahn plays it different, as does Julia Fischer and every other violinist who plays a piece. My comment is that if you don't like this interpretation, at least appreciate how difficult it is to play this piece, and at this speed, no less.
Maybe if people would count to ten (or 100;-)) before posting their comments there might be less strife in this world. One can always state things in less hurtful way, eg. "good technique but interpretation not to my taste", etc.
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Well, in my opinion he's just playing very fast, but it sounds horrible. I know it's hard to play like he does, but it doesn't sound harmonic. I hate it, sorry.
This is so fantastic. I can't believe that anybody would try to criticise it. I'm sure most people slating this performance couldn't do any where near let alone better.
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In my opinion, it seems as though he 's playing it looking at the music vertically. His playing is marvelous, though I don't think he takes into consideration the importance of the actual melody line that is hidden beneath the other voices. If he concerned himself less with playing each note of the chord forte and focusing more on the single note in the chord which -horizontally speaking- creates the melody line that should stand out, his performance might have been as good as Hahn's.
@flowerpowerloader man i don't think a horse could run so fast -.- it's just virtuosismo, anyone who knows the story can understand this.. i don't understand why hilary hahn and him play the last notes so forte and cold -.- mah
The soft notes near the end: "Son, wake up. Are you okay?" (my paraphrasing)
The loud, dramatic final notes: "Shit! Son is dead... *cue dramatic music* "
Not everything has to be a cute polished scratch-less sound. If you are depicting butterflies and birds on a picnic, then sure, but not in this scenario. That's why I like this interpretation. He goes beyond the technique to paint the story behind it.
@SkrPchr3 if a horse could run so fast probably it would have died in half an hour.. and what you are sayn' is not the truth ..In seinen Armen das Kind war tot..The child in his arms lies motionless, dead..The piece then ends with a dramatic cadence that in my opinion is sung too much forte by them .. .
"horse could run so fast probably it would have died in half an hour"
And how fast exactly is it running here?
It's not just the horse running, it's also the panic and chaos of the situation. I'm sure if the story is about Seabiscuit running free on a beautiful open plain, the music would be less intense no matter how fast the horse actually runs.
I like his much more than Hilary's, because there are so much more feelings in his interpreation and for me this peace is more musculin than feminin, so better played by men...
The one thin I don't like in his interpretation is the part from ca. 2:00 to 2:20
Nagyon jo . De meg kellene hallgatni a Hillary Hahnt......Lassaban jätsza sokkal...Vagyiis ez nem technikai darab..........hanem zenei............!!!!!!!!!!!Szerinteim is!De ettöl függetlenül nagy a technika....de ez zene....Gondolkodjunkkkkkkkkkkk...Vagy erezzünk ..!!!!!!!!!!!??????
I've noticed many people commenting on how it doesn't sound "nice". Do they even know what the music is about? Its' not a nice text!!! Its dark, desperate, the Erlkoenig was a hiddeous little character. Barati does superbly here. The music is not easy in the least bit. Its not even difficult. Along with other pieces by Ernst and Pagannini's music, these are some of the most challenging bits of violin repertoire! Before you knock it, see if you can get to that level of performance first.
you hear the "scratchy" sound because the mike is very close... but it IS needed if you want to fill a big hall...the scratches get eliminated with the distance...
nice meaning sounding pleasant in any respect, not sounding happy you retard. I'm not even a super trained ear that has spent his entire life listening and critiquing violin performances but I heard several bum notes in this performance. Hilary's version has a more singing melodic and is more artistic. He's just trying to go as fast as possible and it shows with the intonation and expression. He might be a good violin player but going 4363616 bpm doesn't mean you're a good artist.
I do like this version because fast = awesome. Still, I am in love with Hilary Hahn's version, it has honestly "gripped" me in a way that music never ever has before.
Well it's not the tempo, the tempo written in the score is 152, he's going a nice 168. (I'm thinking in terms of how Schubert wrote the piece, and knowing all those repeated notes are difficult at such a tempo.) While I prefer a slower performance, his is still really clean and all the voices are there. It still manages to have musical quality.
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He ruined the piece, I think he wants to show off. It like hearing many squeaking sounds. I like a slower version a more true to the original soprano and piano version.
actually there's an arrangement for orchestra and soprano, there's a video of Anne Sofie Von Otter and the chamber orchestra of europe doing it...it's actually quite nice. Though the "father's" lines aren't quite as literal, the child's crying is very effective in a soprano register. Also, the Erlkonig parts are done really well by von Otter. But I do love the song in it's original setting with baritone, I just really like that arrangement.
actually he does a great job of separating the voices at this extreme tempo. i think its completely in the character to play this piece very fast. Unlike the vocal version, there is no consistent singing line, because of the constant rhythms that need to be played, super difficult, barati does it perfectly.
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As a Schubert snob, I find the transcription of such a timeless song into a squawky, pointless, emotionless violin piece boardering on sacrilege. It is unquestionable that this violinist is of amazing caliber, but honestly... would Schubert approve of his song being bashed, chopped, and thrown about in some attempt to impress the audience? Schubert wrote music for its expression, this is just a bunch of frilly crap.
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to cellomeister... i almost agree, but i feel it's more this guy's interpretation and playing. try hilary hahn's recording on youtube. i find it to be much more singing and respectful to the original work.
At first i was unsure whether or not i liked him,
but listening to him play, i really enjoy it.
Hilary Hahn is another of my favorites, and neither of their interpretations are wrong, the way you place a piece is what makes you a musician. So they are different, that to me is the best.
Again, just think of the poem. I don't find a melody in the song that should be played nicely (except perhaps those ones when the Erlkönig calls the boy). All the themes Schubert gave to Goethe's characters, are full of desperation (boy), covered by imitated calmness (father) and of ironic kindness (Erlkönig).
I personally find Barati's interpretation very close to all these.
Hahn's version is perfect and nice, but -to me at least- a little too moderated.
And some listeners find Repin's version the best for Ernst/Erlkönig. As we know, Repin and Hahn are great talents, internationally more acclaimed and managed much better than Barati. Against these, after a detailed analysis of this piece, I find Barati's approach as the closest performance to the purpose of the authors.
(Ingolf Turban is the "2nd" in the queue, if I can indicate this way.)
When I think of the original song of Schubert and the poem of Goethe I immediately understand the reasons of this tempo and passion.
"Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?"
The poem and Schubert's song recall a very dramatic and tormented scene with a rushing horse as a basical movement whithin that (I mean as a base rhythm). One just cannot rush in a moderate way, neither can a horse...
Liszt -in his version- requires that in such a fast tempo, as well.
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It's almost like 2violinists playing at the same time!Amazing
kimhwaj 1 week ago
that dude in the suit in the first row back there, looks like he's thinking about his company's latest merger project or something. he seems completely impervious to the fact that there's a violinist performing unbelievable feats right in front of him.
cornel999 3 months ago
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Grancino1697 2 months ago
i'm surprised the camera could catch the movement of the violin bow!!
kanfyetka 3 months ago
legjobb eloadasmod!
SilwerHawk1 4 months ago
Si, si, que muy bien, pero DEMASIADO RÁPIDO como para tocar pizzicatos que NO HACE y que están en la partitura. No me imagino a nadie cantándolo a esa velocidad por mucho que corra el caballo. En mi opinión, Hilary hace una versión que RESPETA absolutamente el sentido e intención de la obra.
cesarvlupion 5 months ago
@cesarvlupion
Sono d'accurerda con ti;Es un tempo..Loco questo!
Schubert ha escrito questa obra per la cantar y non...corrir;Non debe ser lento para nada ,ypero se debe guardar en mente que es escrito per un cantore en primer lugar...hilary Hann,si,respecta questo!!
82224561 4 months ago
GENIAL!!!!!
KosteckiAdam 6 months ago
Respire o caro sr. velocidade. hehe
mateusbelloni 7 months ago
anyone who disliked this video obviously knows nothing about music or is just jealous
Tomasina1205 7 months ago 2
Great job! this song is super difficult! but it's hard for me to watch, b/c his bow is hardly ever straight. but he did a very well!
123violinfreakify 8 months ago
Fiendishly difficult piece. Wonderful performance.
xylonation 9 months ago
b r a v o .
keolide 9 months ago
Dailailama rammstein is the new version !!!
jenova288 9 months ago
To all those thinking he's playing it like it was a race or just to show off his skills, you should all be aware of just how difficult this piece is to play and should also understand what its about. Im sure you have heard it differently many times but appreciate his rendition of it. Its truly amazing.
deadsound1000 11 months ago 2
lol - it is funny when a group of violinists clap with bows in their hands! haha
Duncdagger 11 months ago
Ein Reiter mit seinem Pferd auf Speed,....das ist kein Reiter auf Entzug, sonder sein Vater mit seinem Sterbenden Kind im Arm.....Hilary Hahn ´´erzählt´´ die Geschichte am besten und richtig...
Nowak87MN 11 months ago
great violonist
PLundstrem 1 year ago
You are My Hero!!
DanDaviD7 1 year ago
He plays with closed eyes!!!!
AlexandreJdB 1 year ago
I love his playing! his technical ability let people ignore the difficulty of the piece, and enjoy the original music of schubert, this most of the violinists can not do.
sunyuloveu 1 year ago 2
I like the speed. Take a look at the story behind the original lieder: it's an atmosphere of PANIC! You are riding on a horse, rushing forward, the child is SHRIEKING about getting attacked, the father goes FASTER, etc...
You need a sense of chaos and speed. And notice how he slows down A LOT at the end, to signify the death of the child. It's because he went so fast initially, that he could effectively make this contrast.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
Amaizing
landolfiviolin1 1 year ago
Wow, I almost stopped breathing, to not to miss a nuance from the performance. Perfect violin, perfect hands, perfect performance!
GeorgeOfZala 1 year ago
Wow, ive never heard it this fast, yet clear. This may be a fair representation of how Ernst would've played it.
donesixfour 1 year ago
@likemyviolin You know this isn't even fast. Idk if you were responding to someone who said it was really fast, perhaps in comparison to Hilary Hahn's, but if you go listen to the Lieder by Schubert, some interpretations are indeed this fast. If you use Schubert's piece, the piece that this piece is based on, as a barometer, Hahn's rendition is much slower than Barati's interpretation is fast.
shake69585882 1 year ago
Gosh CLEAR HARMONICS and I know how hard that part is!!!! AND YET SO CLEAR & PURE HARMONICS O_O
DavidTorrez 1 year ago
My fingers hurt just thinking about me playing that on my violin. Ah. May. Zing.
MicrowavingBabiez 1 year ago
@fuo213 he does play the music. listen to it again and notice how his phrasing. the funniest part of your statement is that you are implying hahn has the ability to play music with feeling. she is probably one of the most robotic and performers you will come across.
Grothmanus 1 year ago 3
Nice performance... I wish I could play like that...
fmusikalia 1 year ago
i hate how he stumbles through this piece. no sense of timing at all. it definitely kills any piece of classical music. he can play it as fast as he wants for all i care, but he plays this like a student driver, well...drives. step on the gas, here comes a corner hard on the breaks, passed the corner floor it... a stop sign, step on the breaks. hilary takes it at a more modest tempo in order to get the timing and flow of this piece smooth instead of choppy. though this guy is also talented.
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AlexejRWAhlen 1 year ago
I like hilary hahns version. This one is way to fast and you don't feel the story behind it.
95thRiflesOCI 1 year ago
@95thRiflesOCI and ur mother is gay
Axolo1991 9 months ago
@Axolo1991 this seems to be anyhing you can submit...
of course, he plays excellent. but it's not my taste. now what? o.O
AmelieWuensche 7 months ago
@AmelieWuensche blubb
Axolo1991 7 months ago
He seems to have some intonation stuff here an there, but it's impressive nevertheless.
Milky111wtf 1 year ago
I love this performance! Brilliant and breathtaking!
I didn't like Hilary Hahn's interpretation but she is a fine violinist.
amadeuslover 1 year ago
So like, I'm totally convinced that this piece is not actually possible for a human being to play, and that every person who has played this is actually a robot. DON'T TRY TO TELL ME OTHERWISE, MY LOGIC IS FLAWLESS.
maiira 1 year ago
@maiira I thought that way to until the other when i listened to a friend of mine playing this really well
josesblima 1 year ago
we shouldn't forget, it's a ballade......... at 1:30 the dead sounds like mickey mouse...
AmelieWuensche 1 year ago
@AmelieWuensche play it and then talk about!
Axolo1991 9 months ago
After reading comments favoring Barati over Hahn, I went and watched the video of her performance... and I disagree. Sure, he plays faster and has a lot of energy, but his performance was not nearly as refined as Hahn's. There's a difference between playing with rubato and playing with an unidentifiable tempo. There's more musicianship in Hahn's playing, and this one strikes me as just being showy. And whether I can play this piece or not with their skill is irrelevant to my right of OPINION.
mkurnat 1 year ago
@mkurnat I couldn't agree more:)
HahnPotterishFowlnut 1 year ago
@mkurnat i don't know. this is an encore, it's not like it was rehearsed it for a different purpose. if i were giving an encore, i would want it to be showy but that's just me.
compwhiz540 1 year ago
@mkurnat
This is a story about a life-and-death moment for a child (who dies near the end), while the father rushes home FRANTICALLY on horseback. There is momentum, chaos, speed. It's not a pretty little bel canto opera moment. You need a bit of that "scratch," that TENSION.
You might think this is over-doing it, and that's fine, but you can't just dismiss this as unthoughtful, mindless "showing off" without acknowledging the background of Schubert's original lieder.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
perfect..this is Erlkönig...that's all! ;) :P :)
dagadtfoka 1 year ago
best interpretation ever! This is a REAALLLLLLLLYYYYY hard song...and this guy just dominates!!!
arizonalemon 1 year ago
awesome すげえ
szigeta 1 year ago
OMG BRAVO!!!!!!!!!
remedios89 1 year ago
amazing!!!! incredibile!!!!
KosteckiAdam 1 year ago
well the essence of this piece to achieve that polyphonic sound, since Ernst revolutionized polyphonic playing. So far I think he's got it. Stop arguing about it's too fast.
pspoverdrive 1 year ago
too fast...
Baytuch 1 year ago 3
he should stick to the rythym more but he emphasizes the important parts its good
mdenny19 1 year ago
i've watched this video for now for a couple of years a few and i just only realized his left hand technique. i mean of course i know it has to be great, but his hand shape is so well thought out...and his russian bow hold...reminds me of oistrakh!
vlnpiggy 1 year ago
3 voices... :O
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
@newFranzFerencLiszt *Four :P
dullbr 1 year ago
I would also be in hurry if my son would be between life and death.
likemyviolin 1 year ago 31
@likemyviolin such a great point. he's playing the MUSIC as it should be played. So often, with these transcriptions, the musicality is lost in the technicality, and it so happens, that in the lieder, it is intended to be hurried. Bravo to you.
TheDevilsTrill 1 year ago
This is absolutely a stunning performance. I had only heard a recording of Vadim Repin playing it, but had never seen a video performance. It is incredible to see the fingering. I highly recommend the Vadim Repin recording if you are looking for a good recording.
lexarsepa 1 year ago
This is absolutely a stunning performance. I had only heard a recording of Vadim Repin playing it, but had never seen a video performance. It is incredible to see the fingering. I highly recommend the Vadim Repin recording if you are looking for a good recording.
lexarsepa 1 year ago
amazing!!! Fantastic!!!
KosteckiAdam 1 year ago
What a mess! SLOW DOWN. All the pulse and rhythm is lost at this ridiculous speed...even more so because he cannot properly articulate the rhythm at this pace and musically it just messes up a fine piece.
fingerhorn4 1 year ago
This is so cool, the name say it all "great caprice" it has to be fast like this
manuelspcool 1 year ago
OMG tt fast? HOLY SHIT!
galexwong 1 year ago
Ez igen. ! Szerintem itt sokan alulmaradnának. (még a nevek közül is)
mayerlacika 1 year ago
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I take my hat off for performing this in the public. This is a great version. I practise this piece also. I know how difficult it is and everybody who critises this version in any aspect should go ahead and try it him- or herself. To be able to play it at home is already difficult enough not to talk about performing in public. Heifetz used to say, that if you want to play something in public you have to master it 200% because 100% get lost in playing it for an audience.
Woriviol 1 year ago
To master aspecially this piece 200% needs a lots of hardest work.
The question of tempo or voices or any comparison to the original Lied by Schubert is nonsense anyway. Ernst's version is an etude for soloviolin which tries to extend the limits of this instrument to extreme.
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Woriviol 1 year ago
Azt hiszem - I think - Kristóf soha nem hallotta Schubert dalát - Kristof have never heard the song of Schubert - különben nem akarná így játszani... - sorry, my English is run out...
V9o8x7 1 year ago
I've heard the song, maybe 2oo times :)
Mahgar 1 year ago
This video looks SPED UP. His head movements are not natural. Looks like every 6th frame is taken out or something like that. Besides, his playing is a bit rough.
hsujim 2 years ago
It's not the tempo difference that bothers me, because there are countless of players who can play a piece fast. (This young man could just as well have had indigestion that day.)
It's more that the collective momentum of the song is lost in blurry, scratchy hiccups, and to me, personally, it takes the emotion away and sounds like some student who just wants to go home and rush through, biting and scratching along the way. A synthesis of Hillary and Barati's interpretation would be interesting.
RaRaLandEQ 2 years ago
lets hear you play it! i bet you have crowds coming to hear you.....
Ricepatch1 1 year ago
@Ricepatch1 : Spoken like one who's well below par in mental acumen. 愚か者 I trust you'll find it highly agreeable, to take your fallacious logic to the playground where it belongs if you have nothing neutral or constructive to add on the subject. Don't think most people here need a "Leave Britney alone!!" retort. Take mlcfik's example and try eloquence.
RaRaLandEQ 1 year ago
You sound like an educated idiot! What have you brought to the subject but criticism and condemnation? Like I said, lets hear you play it turbo! I bet your a hell of a lot better than this guy playing in front of a crowd that came to see him! Who the hell are you to say he is a bad violinist?
Ricepatch1 1 year ago
shiiit
sangokou78 2 years ago
Great
domisoldo12 2 years ago
He is a great player, that is not out of the question, but the speed should be just a TAD slower.
Mecinimi 2 years ago
he is much better than hilary....more power.. of course little scratches are there ..but i like more his spirit and his heart!
hilary is too sweet----
fashisti1 2 years ago 12
she might be "too sweet", but at least you can hear all her notes and levels of sound. In this recording, he plays too fast and all you can hear are blurred together notes. No melody, no pronunciation of notes. Listen to Hilary again.
kittyluvr12 2 years ago
yeah
vanessapastor 1 year ago
@fashisti1 I think I've listened to Hilary's interpretation to make an unbiased conclusion but I liked hers because by slowing it down a bit she could focus on the differences in the voices, it's just my favorite version : \
Bshow1212 6 months ago
@fashisti1 But at least we can agree the last two notes (double stops I guess you could call them) were absolutely amazing and personally it's my favorite way for someone to end a piece with a sad ending and story like this.
Bshow1212 6 months ago
I'm not sure if it's the sound quality, but his tone is awful scratchy in places. I agree Hahn's interpretation is a bit slow, but it is MUCH easier to listen to.
SJB07 2 years ago
i agree with you
linalein248 2 years ago
I like the speed. I think, it fits the underlying poem. With the speed of Hilary Hahn's version, the words would be unnaturally slow.
googleusername 2 years ago 4
I think speedness makes this piece to loose its soul. See Hilary's.
alvarortola 2 years ago
I'm going to have to agree with you. It's so fast you hardly have time to pick up on the notes...T~T
gOtHiCxAnGeLxox 2 years ago
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complicatedt1 2 years ago
Who cares. Want to listen to the original buy the schubert song cycles. This piece is written to impress. Nothing more really. Play it as fast as you can....! (As long as you play with accuracy) but it ain't beethoven concerto. It's a showpiece. Go for it! This is an amazing performance!
Beeffyviolin 2 years ago 6
I wonder if YOU have ever heard the damn song. This is the exact tempo I choose when I'm singing the baritone version of this. The other versions are WAY too slow. Listen to a good voice version of the Erlkönig, like Fischer-Dieskau or Kipnis, and then compare the violin version by Hahn. You'll fall asleep.
piasecznik 2 years ago 6
I don't think one can extrapolate the Lieder version (accompanied either by orchestra or piano) to the solo violin. If it is played too fast, the various voices interspersed within the music cannot be effectively differentiated, and to be able to distinguish the voices is critical in Erlkonig - or it loses its drama which Goethe has masterfully crafted. In fact, it will lose the drama more readily than if the music is played a tad slower but with every part audible.
mlckfip 2 years ago
I agree, but I was responding to someone (I think he deleted his comment in the meantime) who said that this version was a lot faster than the original version for voice by Schubert. And that's simply not true.
Also, not only being able to distinguish the voices is critical, but also to maintain the energy and momentum displayed in this piece- like the underlying steps of the horse. And that's lost if you play it too slow, in my opinion.
piasecznik 2 years ago
@piasecznik Well, Imagine the pianist playing the accompaniment THIS fast...It's unrealistic it may take a lot of skill and practice to play it so fast, but at this speed, it is nearly impossible to assimilate every note he plays. This might be the speed Schubert intended, but not the speed Ernst intended. This is a violin piece. Every note is supposed to be cherished. That's why I prefer Hahn's interpretation. Just my opinion. Barati is an incredible violinist. I just didn't enjoy this too much
dullbr 1 year ago
I think both this version and one I watched with Ms. Hahn, are outstanding.
Tahaji 2 years ago
too fast!
nomoreorder 2 years ago
My one issue with this interpretation is that because of the speed, some of the chords end up sounding a bit too short, like he didn't give himself enough time to play them. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be played, but it just seems a bit too rushed for me.
Still damned impressive, though.
maiira 2 years ago
The horse is on speed...
Sorcerer2k 2 years ago
hilary hahn played it much better
ZuppiDaKidd 2 years ago
naw you may like her better but she cant touch him
nl25c 2 years ago
too fast
ZuppiDaKidd 2 years ago
Every interpretation is different. Barati plays it very fast and showy, Hilary Hahn plays it different, as does Julia Fischer and every other violinist who plays a piece. My comment is that if you don't like this interpretation, at least appreciate how difficult it is to play this piece, and at this speed, no less.
MusicLover2840 2 years ago 3
Amen!
Maybe if people would count to ten (or 100;-)) before posting their comments there might be less strife in this world. One can always state things in less hurtful way, eg. "good technique but interpretation not to my taste", etc.
madaboutvoice 2 years ago
good comment you have since
nl25c 2 years ago
You should comment on every virtuoso violinist YouTube video.
malaguena312 2 years ago
all of you people criticizing ought to go practice instead
capnpayne 2 years ago 51
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Well, in my opinion he's just playing very fast, but it sounds horrible. I know it's hard to play like he does, but it doesn't sound harmonic. I hate it, sorry.
DerCaptainIglo 2 years ago
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I hate it too...
stefool 2 years ago
can you elaborate on what you mean by 'it doesnt sound harmonic' ???
SawBoss1000 2 years ago
awsome
blazingviolin 2 years ago
Oh My God..so wonderful and amazing...doesnt his bow arm get tired???? such a virtuoso he is!!!!
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!
vlhere 2 years ago
This is so fantastic. I can't believe that anybody would try to criticise it. I'm sure most people slating this performance couldn't do any where near let alone better.
yarrtiscrapulence 2 years ago 3
so true
nl25c 2 years ago
AMAZING!!!!!!!
Obroten 2 years ago
I can't believe I just saw Barati playing this, live, just 10 hours ago..
AMAZING <3 <3 <3
corneliaomir 2 years ago
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In my opinion, it seems as though he 's playing it looking at the music vertically. His playing is marvelous, though I don't think he takes into consideration the importance of the actual melody line that is hidden beneath the other voices. If he concerned himself less with playing each note of the chord forte and focusing more on the single note in the chord which -horizontally speaking- creates the melody line that should stand out, his performance might have been as good as Hahn's.
Runescape28 2 years ago
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Runescape28 2 years ago
omigosh this is so insaneee :O
barati = gooooooood
purplekitteh 2 years ago 4
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I prefer Hahn's I feel like this piece is too rushed and you miss out
azuni262 2 years ago
nobody can perform erlkönig as kristof can. amazing! - and much more better than hanh's. it isn't a question.
flowerpowerloader 2 years ago 21
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Hahn for ever!!!!!
<3
joumps 2 years ago
spazz
yarrtiscrapulence 2 years ago
@flowerpowerloader man i don't think a horse could run so fast -.- it's just virtuosismo, anyone who knows the story can understand this.. i don't understand why hilary hahn and him play the last notes so forte and cold -.- mah
animeimport 1 year ago
@animeimport
The fast frantic parts: running home on horseback
The soft notes near the end: "Son, wake up. Are you okay?" (my paraphrasing)
The loud, dramatic final notes: "Shit! Son is dead... *cue dramatic music* "
Not everything has to be a cute polished scratch-less sound. If you are depicting butterflies and birds on a picnic, then sure, but not in this scenario. That's why I like this interpretation. He goes beyond the technique to paint the story behind it.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@SkrPchr3 if a horse could run so fast probably it would have died in half an hour.. and what you are sayn' is not the truth ..In seinen Armen das Kind war tot..The child in his arms lies motionless, dead..The piece then ends with a dramatic cadence that in my opinion is sung too much forte by them .. .
animeimport 11 months ago
@animeimport
"horse could run so fast probably it would have died in half an hour"
And how fast exactly is it running here?
It's not just the horse running, it's also the panic and chaos of the situation. I'm sure if the story is about Seabiscuit running free on a beautiful open plain, the music would be less intense no matter how fast the horse actually runs.
SkrPchr3 11 months ago
What a beautiful piece and beautiful performance !!
winfinity77 2 years ago 6
HOLY CRAP so fast yet emotional
slimbullet96 2 years ago 2
Uf, qué desafinado.
Sitioespacio 2 years ago
so great,bravo!
piggypeggy85 2 years ago
I haven´t ever heared better than this performence!!!!
BRAVO!!!!
arsenstepanyan 2 years ago 10
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hilary hahn
blumedersahara 2 years ago
She plays very slow if we compare with Baratti! My grandmother also can play in Hahn`s tempo!!!
arsenstepanyan 2 years ago 4
maybe your grand mother is Hahn... and you had not notice it.
orpa18 2 years ago 5
ouu yeah
azilor 2 years ago
I like his much more than Hilary's, because there are so much more feelings in his interpreation and for me this peace is more musculin than feminin, so better played by men...
The one thin I don't like in his interpretation is the part from ca. 2:00 to 2:20
wasdwasd1337 2 years ago 5
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too many interpetation mistakes! he should have listened the original.....this makes this work very boring to listen!! its
smashing notes
qawsedrf6 2 years ago
Barati = child dies at the end...
Hilary Huhn = child remains on stage, makes a bow and goes home
glvt 2 years ago 4
It was for soprano and piano, I've seen it here I like Hilary's version than this one.
rzantac 2 years ago
too fast..too hard...yes he's good...but i dont like it.
neomachina 3 years ago
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umcaca 3 years ago
I've noticed many people commenting on how it doesn't sound "nice". Do they even know what the music is about? Its' not a nice text!!! Its dark, desperate, the Erlkoenig was a hiddeous little character. Barati does superbly here. The music is not easy in the least bit. Its not even difficult. Along with other pieces by Ernst and Pagannini's music, these are some of the most challenging bits of violin repertoire! Before you knock it, see if you can get to that level of performance first.
yarrtiscrapulence 3 years ago 9
Yes mr.intelliget but when people mean,it doesn't sound nice they mean the SOUND-it is allways scraching
jasonform 2 years ago
you hear the "scratchy" sound because the mike is very close... but it IS needed if you want to fill a big hall...the scratches get eliminated with the distance...
cellotennis 2 years ago
nice meaning sounding pleasant in any respect, not sounding happy you retard. I'm not even a super trained ear that has spent his entire life listening and critiquing violin performances but I heard several bum notes in this performance. Hilary's version has a more singing melodic and is more artistic. He's just trying to go as fast as possible and it shows with the intonation and expression. He might be a good violin player but going 4363616 bpm doesn't mean you're a good artist.
raffadizzle 2 years ago
"difficult" doesn't even come close with this transcription... brilliant performance!
sean4730 3 years ago 2
SHIT.... AWESOME...
arteimagen1981 3 years ago
I do like this version because fast = awesome. Still, I am in love with Hilary Hahn's version, it has honestly "gripped" me in a way that music never ever has before.
mairsil 3 years ago
are those false harmonics??????? o.O
ciaconna93 3 years ago
Well it's not the tempo, the tempo written in the score is 152, he's going a nice 168. (I'm thinking in terms of how Schubert wrote the piece, and knowing all those repeated notes are difficult at such a tempo.) While I prefer a slower performance, his is still really clean and all the voices are there. It still manages to have musical quality.
I like Hilary Hahn's Version as well though.
Feignabsolution 3 years ago
those who say it's too fast, you're just jealous.
ndw444 3 years ago 4
thats my fav line on the ladies :D
patrikkorda 3 years ago 4
that makes no sense. fucking retard
raffadizzle 2 years ago 2
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He ruined the piece, I think he wants to show off. It like hearing many squeaking sounds. I like a slower version a more true to the original soprano and piano version.
rzantac 3 years ago
Um. You mean *baritone* and piano, right? I shudder to imagine a soprano singing this song.
whatsherface1015 3 years ago 5
actually there's an arrangement for orchestra and soprano, there's a video of Anne Sofie Von Otter and the chamber orchestra of europe doing it...it's actually quite nice. Though the "father's" lines aren't quite as literal, the child's crying is very effective in a soprano register. Also, the Erlkonig parts are done really well by von Otter. But I do love the song in it's original setting with baritone, I just really like that arrangement.
saxamaphoneguy1 2 years ago 3
omg...he ruined the piece!! wwaaaayy 2 fast and he missed the phrasing!!
bluematrix109 3 years ago
are you even a violinist? you sure dont sound like one
sourmaxxi 3 years ago
Doesn't matter, he's right.
spameister 3 years ago
exactly, it sounds like a machinegun - its way too fast
sukinishiroyo 3 years ago
i love machine guns
themontyshow 3 years ago 4
actually he does a great job of separating the voices at this extreme tempo. i think its completely in the character to play this piece very fast. Unlike the vocal version, there is no consistent singing line, because of the constant rhythms that need to be played, super difficult, barati does it perfectly.
dkurgano 3 years ago 3
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As a Schubert snob, I find the transcription of such a timeless song into a squawky, pointless, emotionless violin piece boardering on sacrilege. It is unquestionable that this violinist is of amazing caliber, but honestly... would Schubert approve of his song being bashed, chopped, and thrown about in some attempt to impress the audience? Schubert wrote music for its expression, this is just a bunch of frilly crap.
CelloMeister 3 years ago
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to cellomeister... i almost agree, but i feel it's more this guy's interpretation and playing. try hilary hahn's recording on youtube. i find it to be much more singing and respectful to the original work.
johntomfoolery 3 years ago
2001: A Space Odyssey was a terrible representative of the original book, but I don't see anyone calling it a piece of crap.
mbenoni7 3 years ago
Great musicianship, I really enjoyed your playng and... I want to study this, definitely!
robiolin 3 years ago 2
At first i was unsure whether or not i liked him,
but listening to him play, i really enjoy it.
Hilary Hahn is another of my favorites, and neither of their interpretations are wrong, the way you place a piece is what makes you a musician. So they are different, that to me is the best.
samiesunshine 3 years ago 5
Word. I don't know why some people are coming in here just to say, "Oh, Hilary Hahn's better."
In different ways, maybe, but that's what makes each of them unique.
Flailalix 3 years ago
Is this piece initially intended for an opera? To me, the notes sound like some lead is singing. It's intense!
animeaff 3 years ago 4
Your right. Originally, it was a piece written by Shubert for singer and piano i guess
trigger565 3 years ago 2
Perfect playing and understanding of the piece. Highest level. Great instrument.
skrzypek6 3 years ago
Particularly the studio version: watch?v=mJ-uADF0gOA
likemyviolin 3 years ago
.."he kills the melody" - you wrote.
Again, just think of the poem. I don't find a melody in the song that should be played nicely (except perhaps those ones when the Erlkönig calls the boy). All the themes Schubert gave to Goethe's characters, are full of desperation (boy), covered by imitated calmness (father) and of ironic kindness (Erlkönig).
I personally find Barati's interpretation very close to all these.
Hahn's version is perfect and nice, but -to me at least- a little too moderated.
mimimimimira 3 years ago 6
And some listeners find Repin's version the best for Ernst/Erlkönig. As we know, Repin and Hahn are great talents, internationally more acclaimed and managed much better than Barati. Against these, after a detailed analysis of this piece, I find Barati's approach as the closest performance to the purpose of the authors.
(Ingolf Turban is the "2nd" in the queue, if I can indicate this way.)
likemyviolin 3 years ago
When I think of the original song of Schubert and the poem of Goethe I immediately understand the reasons of this tempo and passion.
"Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?"
The poem and Schubert's song recall a very dramatic and tormented scene with a rushing horse as a basical movement whithin that (I mean as a base rhythm). One just cannot rush in a moderate way, neither can a horse...
Liszt -in his version- requires that in such a fast tempo, as well.
mimimimimira 3 years ago 4
i've always heard people play it this fast. vadim repin has a fantastic version.