The Madness of Denethor The Witch King owns Gandalf

[cameronb5241]

"Do you not know death when you see it old man?" best line ever!

[1FeNnY1]

the lieutenant of minas morgul is so grim, got some dock off tumour...

[TheGreatTamara]

Give a man fire, and he will be warm for a while. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

[xSilverPhinxx]

I don't really like Denethor...

[xSilverPhinxx]

@xSilverPhinxx

I mean like...toughen up!

[MrImastinker]

Gandalf could've clinched it.

He's more than just a man staff casting spells. He's a freakin MAIAR!

[metabog]

Oh Walter, you're confused again, I'll help you get back to your lab.

[Pumpkin525]

2:52 - 2:58 casting some spell to shatter Gandalf's staff, am I right?

[2152nicole]

That guard in the room where faramir almost burned, he just let his spear be taken. not even try to get it back or stop gandalf.

[Danfitz2010]

@tlevids I agree completely. I understand when producers/directors have to cut long scenes due to time constraints and the fact that producers have money in stake in the film and essentially dumbing something like lotr down would get them a bigger audience other than us fantasy geeks but literally a few seconds extra footage would have explained his pessimistic/suicidal attitude so much more clearly.

[Rickbl1245]

0:01 turn your annotations on: lol

[resistancenews]

Why Gandalf looks older in this scene?

[ojima510]

is gandalf weak

or is the witch king powerful

or both???

and why the h*ck didn't the witchking kill gandalf and pippin? he went away because of some stupid cavalery???

[HopeUnquenchable]

@ojima510 The lord of the Nazgul is as powerful or more so than Gandalf the White, just as the Balrog was as powerful or more so than Gandalf the Grey - but he still managed to defeat the beast. In the book the Witch king doesn't actually manage to do him any harm, and you get the idea that Gandalf *could* have defeated him in desperate battle, because a) "No living man can defeat him," & Gandalf is a wizard, & b) when it comes to the showdown with Gandalf he flies off to pick on someone weaker

[gugvg]

"I release you from my service. go now and die in what way seems best to you" haha awesome line

[CSProductions31]

I like how it says madness, Because...Walter was mad. xD

[pete1210able]

Are the hobbits always barefooted ?

[HopeUnquenchable]

@pete1210able Yes.

[pete1210able]

Denethor is an idiot !

[Tlevids]

Also it's a bit silly that the witch king pwns Gandalf so easily, it should have been a more evenly matched fight.

[Tlevids]

It's a shame that in the film it is never revealed that Denethor owned a palantir. Denethor's palantir explains why he had such a pessimistic outlook on the war- Sauron was basically using it to destroy his spirit and morale. A few extra seconds of footage showing him grasping at the palantir while burning to death would have been sufficient.

[MeredithWaters]

@Tlevids The LOTR films do hint at Denethor's ownership of a palantir. That is what he means when he asks Gandalf, "Do you think the eyes of the White Tower are blind?" and tells of his knowledge of Aragorn. He knows because he saw it in the palantir.

[pete1210able]

Serves that asshole right.

[SuperWaveShredder]

First Orc: "Did you see that?"

Second Orc: "What?"

First Orc: "Oh, I just thought I saw a giant spark falling from the sky."

[jsteffey88]

You know looking at the scene where Denethor is burning and literally runs the top floor all the way to the end of the pitfall. That's a pretty long path for someone on fire to be running and falling to the death. It's like he's on fire and it's not enough to die because he has to jump.

[lalbenatan]

I wish Gandulf hadn't knock him into the fire with the horse!

[lalbenatan]

why the heck they were trying to burn the body inside the building? >.>

[dark7element]

"Go now, and die in what way seems best to you."

That line pretty much sums up Denethor's character and outlook on life. Such a tragic figure.

[BrentV13]

and so passes denethor son of ecthelion!

[LeoJMcP]

This is the most awesome and intense part of the whole book. I know changes have to be made for film adaptations, but why this scene!!!? And why so much!!??

[LeoJMcP]

In rode the Lord of the Nazgul. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgul, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.

All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the Earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dinen.

[MatuSSisko]

they should call sparta for help

[Lubotron]

1:56 Darth Maul???

[boilerup74]

@Lubotron lmao i thought the same thing

[salisburyschool]

lol ''for safe keeping mr frodo''

[salisburyschool]

denethor was a fool 

[04024jordon]

come on Denthor-STOP, DROP AND ROLL!!!

[lonestarduffer]

@Saberhagen19243 LOL !!! Dude, that is awesome... I seriously laughed out loud reading that.

[ZillaRocks]

Why the heck does his staff break? That didn't happen in the book. Gandalf had his sword out

[drthockey]

hahaha 3:33

[lavidaesrock]

it would be cool if peter should put the fight between gandalf and the wich king

[lohobbit97]

at 2:59 gandalf and pipin are made to the computer during the fall

[alahad]

@Saberhagen19243 I don't mean yours or your father's name are lame just that... theire modern so... no it doesn't fit

[alahad]

@Saberhagen19243 Kevin son of steven sounds kinda lame :(

[GaurdQueen]

poor Faramir, His daddy finally realizes "oh, I love you son." just in time to die.

[juresaiyan]

from 4:55 is, for me, the saddest part of lotr. far more than that stupid parting of frodo where everybody cries. sadness does not only lie in crying... The final understanding of Denetor, that his son was alive all the time, and he would have brought senseless ruin upon either of them is the utmost heartbreak of Denethor, and that why I like him. He probably the most human example in Lotr. The example of how weak can a man become, if being clouded by defeat.

[josepasillas530]

gandalf looks high

[mwtillotson]

The horse zoom is retarded.

[WulvPawz]

haha would there be orks down there who would have seen that?

they'd be like WTF we breached the city like 5 minutes ago and we're already throwing burning people of the cliffs

[NicholasGeschke]

The Gondorian soldiers fought bravely, but theirs wasn't a fight to win, it was one to delay the Orcs until the refugees could get to safety. Besides, how would you feel if you had savage monsters coming at you, biting and slashing like wild animals?

[NerdRoomProductions]

The amount of people who have gotten it wrong about Gandalf in this video astounds me.

Gandalf, was an Istari yes, which is a type of Maiar, Sauron is also a type of Maiar whom became more powerful due to his turn to Darkness.

Gandalf when he ascends to become Gandalf the white, becomes something more than a Maiar, Tolkien himself said that Gandalf was a 'Valar of sorts' Valar being more powerful than Maiar. He could easily defeat the WK, thats why this was left out the final film.

[edualym]

"You may triumph in the field of battle for a day... but agains the power that no rises in the East.... there is NO victory!"

WOW!

[sjbhatt120]

Rohan pwns Gondor any day!!

[MultiLOTRfan]

The funniest part was the beggining with the speech bubble!

[BlueMoonz55]

John noble i sexy as Denthor

=]

he looks all tall, strong and handsome

=P

[mustrapefoley]

Damn John noble is a good actor. He plays Walter Bishop in Fringe to perfection.

And yet i cannot imagine another denethor. Magic, simply magic.

[corriec18]

Gandalf's like "Don't touch my hobbit!"

[Empeinmortal]

poor Gandalf. He looks stressed at 5:32

[katiemckay]

I love that last bit, how is death is shown and then seems so insignificant compared to this huge battle.

[glambring0]

Gandalf is amongst the Maiar he would own the Witch King!

[SavageBezerkEclipse]

THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS ABOUT GANDALF!!! Gandalf is an Istari, a DEMI GOD, the Witch King is a Fucking MORTAL, A GHOST!! You Sir, Have given me Faith in this generationagain!!

[CaliHighinWhittier]

Sauron>Gandalf

Sauron gives strength to a mortal so...

Witch King>Gandalf

[SavageBezerkEclipse]

Sauron is Greater than Gandalf Yes, But The Witch King ISN'T, It went Sauron-Sarumon-Gandalf, Gandalf then was ressurected/brought Back so it was Sauron then Gandalf.

Witch King is a Mere Mortal, Gandalf is STRONGER than The Witch King, Gandalf has one of the Elvish Rings as well as his own powers, Gandalf is a DEMI GOD.

Witch King Would Put up a grand fight, but in the end LOSE, Gandalf isn't a Mortal so he would win. It would be a great fight though.

[EatMyPwn]

Actually, nope. Did you read the book?

In the book the Witch King doesn't break Gandalf's staff. That's because the books don't suck and use cheap tactics in order to "move" the viewer/reader. If it weren't for Ian Mckellen and the others' performances, this would have been a god awful series of adaptations.

Doesn't matter who Sauron gave power to. Gandalf is an Istari- he quite literally was a god or "angel". And no one has the authority to break his staff.

[Elemarth]

@CaliHighinWhittier WRONG. By that extremely flawed logic, every one of Sauron's magical minions would be more powerful than Gandalf. If so, he would have succeeded long ago.

In one-on-one combat, Sauron-without-the-ring would probably be about equal to Gandalf the White. But even if not, he doesn't have that kind of power to give away, even to the greatest of his minions.

[CaliHighinWhittier]

@Elemarth Your logic is undeniable! :p

[Elemarth]

@CaliHighinWhittier Furthermore, in the Fellowship of the Ring, Gandalf says something that implies that, mounted, Glorfindel and Aragorn could stand against nine Nazgul on horses. Nine. In my opinion, it's an exaggeration, but it can't be entirely misleading or Tolkien wouldn't have written it. Glorfindel is about as powerful as Gandalf the Grey. Gandalf now has more power. OK?

[yoeeb]

the gondorians fought so poorly, they should of done a phalanx type movement in the narrow streets, with archers behind

[CaliHighinWhittier]

mmm, too bad you werent there to lead them againnt those huge trolls :P

im guessing they were just tripping from fear and didnt think straight

[ShaunCarlin]

you could go to gamesworkshop and get an army of gondor and play the game

[WallaceProductions95]

There were over run x(. I wonder what the Ratio was..

[thegreatchimp]

Yes. You see in the book they were killing five orcs for every one of them that fell. For some irritating reason Peter Jackson made them appear like a bunch of incompetents and gave ALL the glory to the Rohirrim. He also made Denethor into a villan; he was a much better chap in the book. Don't ask me why he did these things, but it pissed me and a lot of other fans off.

Screen adaptions....

[worldemperor85]

Denethor was just a cynic and a victim of circumstance in the book. He didn't try to endanger his own people.

I always hated Denethor before I read the books. Now I just feel bad for him...

[so154jg]

TRUE, that is right

you can do that on the game tho lol

[AemiliaPaulla]

Shallow as it may sound, I never realized how handsome David Wenham was until I saw him about to be "burned alive"... !

[CaliHighinWhittier]

lol

[Jade20121912]

lol XD