Only needed reason that Michael is the best ever: He was double (sometimes triple) teamed throughout his whole career in a more physical league, and still dominated. LeBron, Kobe, and D-Wade will never be able to do that.
This was the best Pistons team of all time in my opinion. They had two All-NBA Defense first-teamers, they won 31 of their final 37 regular season games and they swept a Lakers team that had not only defeated the Western Conference three straight years, but had also gone 11-0 through the first three rounds of the playoffs. Naturally, I don't think it would've happened if Scott and Magic had been healthy, but the Pistons would've still beaten them in 6. Just my opinion.
No matter how physical tough the game or how crappy his team is playing Jordan doesnt quit until the buzzer rings.. Kobe quits in many occasions #1 is when the other team gets physical with him he quits #2 if someone bumps him too hard he quits #3 if his getting not enough fouls called he quits #5 #6 #7 .. etc the dude is a quitter who happen to be able make a few shots when the conditions are juuusst riiiiiggghhhttt. please MJ is bar non The Greatest Player of All Time and the Most Exciting
@essycee04 Kobe quit when team get physical with ? He didn't quit with tough Celtic in 2010, He didnt quit against the Nuggets in 08, 09. He didn't quit with Houston in 09, He didn't quit with Portland, Spurs , Kings in 00-02. He didn't quit when his team rely on him to take the game winning shot time after time. How is Kobe a quitter ? Jordan is great but to say Kobe is a quitter is asinine
all i know is the pistons beating the bulls 3 years in a row had nothing to do with Jordan's play. I watched these games on TV back then and it was Pippen, Grant, Cartwright, Paxson all stinking it up back then. The Bulls finally beat the Pistons when those same players stepped up their games
To put this into perspective for all you ignorant LA/Kobe fans. This Bulls team was the only team in the playoffs to defeat the Pistons. The Pistons swept through every team in the East (cept the Bulls) then went on to sweep an UNDEFEATED Magic Lakers team in the finals. This is back when Pippen wasnt really good so MJ still had to carry this team by himself. See the difference between this... and Kobe getting his ass beat by the Phoenix Suns. This 1989 Pistons team is in the top 10 GTOAT
@willsmackyoudown Everything you said was on point except about the Lakers in the Finals. Byron Scott hurt his hamstring in practice even before game 1, and Magic pulled his own hamstring during game 2. So that sweep kinda comes with an asterisk:)
@ThaLinguist there is no damn asterisk you clown...if thats the case then the lakers get an asterisk for winning the 89' finals because isaiah got hurt and wasnt 100%....save your excuses.
@lakersownsuns Actually to be honest if ur talking fact wise Bill Russell is the best NBA player. Whos has more rings? 11>6 Evrybody always says what if he didnt retire or whatever but the truth is he did. There are really no ifs in basketball. MJ is definetlly what made the NBA but doesnt mean he is the best.
@tekknking bro compare the overall talent of the nbain bill russel's time to mihceals time, in micheals time teams were alot better so it was much harder to win in win micheals time than it was in biill's time.
Bill russel is the greatest champion no doubt not the greatest player. Russell played in an era of something like 6 teams in which the teams all stayed together and the competition was not as spread out. To do what jordan and the bulls did in the 90's is almost unreal to think of. With Caps and 24 teams with talent split everywhere and the caliber of players I am sure it doesnt take must for one to see how unreal and lets not mention the individual stats off the charts.
@tekknking Bill Russell is one of the greatest but he played with sam jones, tom heinson, bob cousy, john havlicek (the celtics all-time leading scorer, even more than larry bird), Don Nelson, K.C. Jones and more. His team was sooo superior to every one else. Jordan took one good player that became great and 10 other role players to 3 titles. After retiring he came back and to the same great player and added the ultimate role player in Rodman along side 9 different role players and won 3 more
Lets wade get those pussies calls he got against dallas against the bad boys. Wade would be out by game 2 if he tried that pussy shit back than. Jordans strength is really underrated. He can take a beating.
i'll say this for jordan he had real heart because we used to whoop on him every game. for several years he didn't care how hard it got he went hard every night against the pistons. jordan is the better player than kobe but i wonder how kobe would do if zones were still illegal
Kobe's ability against the zone isn't even an issue when comparing him to Jordan. Jordan won the championship every full season that he played after he won his first as a Bull. Kobe lost in the finals in 2003 after 3peating! And In 2004 Kobe's Lakers didn't make the playoffs. That was followed by back to back losses to the Suns in the first round. The Lakers franchise went on a 7 year hiatus from winning the finals while Kobe was in his prime at his peak.
Are you kidding me wade did not have the greatest nba finals ever. The dude scored most of his points from the free-throw line than on tough jumpers. Its like every time he went to the rim he got a foul call. Jordan averaged 42.0 ppg and 7.2 apg in the 1993 NBA Finals against the phoenix suns who were considered a better team then the bulls that year by some experts. And no I don't hate kobe I just think that Michael Jordan's accolades are just too good to ever be matched. 14 MVP's thats sick.
What pisses me off more than ever is the comparison of michael jordan to other players like Kobe and Lebron. Jordan is the greatest of all time last I checked Kobe's numbers are not even near jordan's. 5 MVP's 6 Finals MVP's, 3 All-Star MVP's 10 scoring titles, 6 NBA Championships. The Best Kobe can be is at least half as great as Jordan. So stop with the comparisions MJ is MJ and Kobe is Kobe end of story.
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the best kobe can be is at least half as great as jordan. U are a true kobe hater.
kobe plays with Lebron and Wade two players that have the ability to be the best of all time...sure hall of famers... wades finals performance was the greatest ever.. and lebron has a rare god given size, athleticism and ability that has never been seen before...kobe is already more than half as good as jordan..please
Jordan got buckets against real teams, without a lot of help, couldn't stop him. Kobe was slowed tremendously in last years finals vs. Celtics..Mike probably woulda gave them 35-40 plus per game..Mike at 29, W vs Blazers in the Finals, Kobe L vs Celts..come on...no comparison
Hey guys, notice how the Kobe homers don't try and make any of their innane comments regarding the defense being 'weaker and easier' back in the 80's, on videos like this.
When they see Jordan taking on this legendary defense and still compile 46 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assist, for a high field goal % and leading his team to victory, even THEY have to realize that Kobe would struggle to average over 20ppg against the Bad Boy Pistons during a playoff series.
geez... stop hating.... each generation if different... hard to compare.... appreciate each great team player and time period.... kobe ain't mike.... mike wasn't dr j..... there were games where jordan wasn't God and struggled ..... boston had a great defense this past yr- plain and simple... different times, different generations...
u r missing my point.... when jordan first came into the league, they compared him to Dr. J.... I have seen countless comparisons to the next Magic, the next Bird (except white american players are extinct now).... I love Jordan, just tired of hearing people compare generations.... 80's and mid 90's were the peak of the NBA- HS kids skipping college ruining the game.... moron.....
Hey, I can agree with you on that point, the 80's and 90's where the best decades in the NBA's history.
My problem is that too MANY people are just flat out DISCREDITING the achievements of the likes of Jordan, Magic and Bird, by saying that they played in a "weaker era" of NBA basketball, all so they can then propel today's current crop of "superstars" to a status ABOVE them.
Now there's comparing generations rationally, then there's just being flat out IGNORANT of history! Not you BTW.
The only reason you guys say it's difficult to compare Jordan's and Kobe's generation is because Jordan KILLS Kobe in EVERY SINGLE significant category and in achievements.
If Kobe is this supposed "equal" to Jordan, he should have at least gone down FIGHTING. Even in the three successive seasons of being put out by the Pistons, Jordan gave his ALL and produced his best basketball... NOT let his team get blown out by 39 points in Game 6!
I didn't know one man could carry a team on his back- Odom disappeard, Gasol was out of position, Bynum's interior defense gone...... no one is saying Kobe is equal to Jordan, so get off that has been's d*ck dude....
Everyone knows Jordan is the best ever, so let his nuts go dude.... enjoy the new generations and quit comparing Kobe and Jordan.... and the "Kobe hasn't won without Shaq" card is lame- Jordan never won without Pippen or Phil Jackson- hoops is a team game and no one man can win
Umm, I'd be enjoying today's generation MORE and appreciating what they have achieved if people would just let them build up their OWN legacy first, without trying to step on those of players who went before them and, in most cases, have produced on a more consistent and spectacular basis.
Also I KNOW basketball is a team sport... The thing is Jordan might not have won an NBA titles without Pippen, but the Bulls NEVER WON A TITLE WHEN MJ WAS AWAY.
Odom disappeared? So he didn't shot 8-11 from the field, grab 10 rebounds, dish 4 assists and block a shot during the crucial Game 4 loss, whilst Kobe went 6-19?
Game 7 of 1990 ECF vs Detroit, Pippen faked a Migrane headache and Chicago got blasted by 20..... yes Jordan went down swinging but every great player needs his cast to step up and help- Kobe's disappeard in game 6 vs Boston, so i don't see how "Kobe" let his team lose....
people forget how long it took Jordan to get past Boston and Detroit.. he wasn't just a champion overnite
That's the thing though... Jordan at LEAST did go down swinging and trying to LEAD his team.
What did Kobe do? 7-22, 22 points, ONE assist, one steal.
Not exactly inspirational when your team is up against it at the Garden.
Ok the other Lakers should have stepped up more in that game, but Kobe should ALSO have stepped up his game too! I think Kobe is a GREAT player, but too often he has let HIMSELF down by not putting in his best in the crunch moments in Finals.
At 2:08 that was a personal foul. In todays league it would be an automatic Flagrant 1 foul. This is the defense that I would like to see Kobe go up against. If I only hada time machine.
Jordan only weighs 11 pounds more than Kobe, so Kobe isn't too weak. However his stats would drop significantly if he played during the 80's. But you probably know that already.
I remember seeing this game on TV and going wild over that hanging shot with 53 ticks left (2:58 to 3:01) and of course the game winner.
Actually, with 9 seconds left, Pistons had the ball and were called for an offensive foul. Then the look on the Pistons coach Chuck Daly said it all: he slumped on his seat and buried his face in his hands.
He knew: with the Bulls inbounding the ball with 9 tics left, the Pistons were going to lose as Jordan was going to score. Another priceless moment.
The dreaded Jordan rules man. Damn Detroit was like fuck it. We can't stop u but were going to kill the hell out of u evertime u touch the ball MJ and eventually just wear u out. Can't blamee them it worked 4 staright years, wonder why the Cavaliers never use that stratregy.
did laimbeer ever do anything other than committing bad fouls and trying to kill other players? only if he paid a little attention to his game and performed for once
u guys should look up the video kobe bryant vs lebron james fight. this idiot went on their saying their both better then mj cuz when mike played there was no help defense. what a discrace.
His Airness proceeded to kick butt. It really is cool going back to the late 80's though and seeing how he had to fight and lose to some great teams back then before he could get his turn. Some very very great baskeball 1980-1998. Too bad I missed the first 12 years or so of it cuz I didn't care about bball then.
that was a football game...and black cat dominated. only j can fight that kind of war and make it look easy and loaded with style that cant be understood or duplicated.
Wow the physical nature of their defense is just shocking when you think about it. The fact that in today's game everyone on the Pistons would have fouled out by the third quarter is funny. Not to mention that Game winner was pretty remarkable. I think it's interesting that this game winner isn't shown as much as the other ones. Also check out 1:44. You can see hand checking at its best. It's just crazy how much it's changed. If someone defended a player today like that, they'd end up in a fight
These are the games that make MJ the greatest, and why it is impossible to ever compare Kobe or LeBron. Neither of those guys ever had to face such a furious game.
Everybody went nuts over LeBron's 40pt game against the Pistons last year. Watch this game, and then watch that one. No one touches LeBron, they don't double team him, and he barely has a shot contested. Not even close.
I don't know if it was meant to, but I like the sound effect between 3:26 and 3:30. It's like saying : "now, something unhuman is going to happen. It is science fiction. It's Michael Jordan's time !".
Now look at this hes going against top defenders like Dumars whom jordan said he was the best he had ever went against and hes just torching him. They are playing Physical and hes still taking it to the lane. Most players would crumble. Jordan just says F you.
Jordan and Kobe are great players. Jordan by far is the better player and Kobe has a chance to go down as a top 5 player from his own era. Jordan should be compared to Shaq and Duncan who are the only leaders with multi-championships. Read my channel description. I guarantee you that it teaches you more about the game and the history of MJ and the history of Kobe.
Hoops, MJ shot 16-26 in this game and also had 5 steals and only two turnovers. (source: Star Tribune and Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 28 May 1989)
He also kept Isiah to 5pts on 2 of 8 shooting and forced four turnovers. Really a legendary game.
Yeah, 5 points and like 7 assists. The commentators kept remarking what a great job Jordan did keeping Isiah out of the lane. 46/7/5/4/2 including the game-winner against two of the best defenders in the lague (Dumars/Rodman) and superb defense on one of the game's premier PG's. Amazing.
Well, no, the Bulls won the game if that's what you're talking about. In other games where Jordan tried to rely more on his teammates, they could not win.
hoops my friend what about his top rookie performance where he got 49 points, 15 rebs and 5 ast, in a win against the pistons? i'd love to see that one
I didn't keep track of that in this one either. I was trying to find it but couldn't. A lot of times, if there is 1 or 2 blocks I don't list it. I guess I'll put up the full stats from hereon.
Hoops, I was at my best friend from school's house. I saw some of the fourth and the shot. That's how I shot my layups (have cerebral palsy)I had to stop, jump and bank it. I went outside to his goal thinking, Mike hit my shot as GW!
p.s. you know this my favorite time- anymore from the playoff series soon?
the balls on this guy..5 guys in the paint waitin for u to come in so they can crush u, and michael would do it time and time again like he was alone in the court.
if lebron wants to be this genereations michael jordan he should start attacking the rim instead of settling for fade away jumpers vs guys who are 4 inches and 30 pounds lighter then him...jason kidd:P Greatest ever is a 4way tie for me. Bird-Magic-Jordan-Chamberlain... p.s. I'll quote charles barkley on this one: 'the only thing kobe and MJ have in commen is that they both black'
i like the toughness Michael Jordan displayed in this despite being the object of the so called "Jordan Rules" He never showed any sign of fatigue or fear. He relentless attacked the basket all the time. He is simply the best ever.
By Michael's first championship season in 1991 he scored 40 or more points against every team in the NBA. By 1993 he scored 50 points against every team in the eastern conference. Also they were dedicated to stopping MJ but they couldn't. Even the bad boy Detroit team tried to stop him but half the time they couldn't.
MJ is the best. He played against the toughest, strong people back then. Nba was more rough and violent less pussy fouls were called, nowadays you see kobe getting suspended..wtf is that, dumbass david stern hes getting soft. But even though the pistons won this, so what WHO WON 6! AFTERWARDS, JORDAN!! BABY WOO!
I would like to point out the toughness of MJ. He was hit, kicked, punched, slammed to the ground by the bad boy pistons but still played hard. He was a warrior. No matter how soar he was after one of these games, he challenged himself to be even greater the next game.
The best part about that winning shot was that before the play, Chuck Daly told the Pistons exactly what type of move and shot Jordan was going take, and they still couldn't stop him.
Thats the difference b/w some players and Jordan, some players would choke up against certain teams, Jordan would come at any team and "dare" them to stop him..He is and will be the greatest.Thats my story and Im sticking with it!
"That's my story and I'm sticking with (to?) it!" This is a reference to Steve Kerr's speech after his game winning shot in the 1997 finals. It was hilarious.
I remember that. Let me put that in context. They were back in Chicago after winning their 5th ring in front of the crowd celebrating and Steve made a little speech of his own. He was joking about having to bail Michael out since MJ had been asked to make the game winning shot 26 times and missed, so he (Kerr) asked Phil to be the one taking the last shot.
Of course this was nothin but a funny story Kerr came up with to entertain the fans. He finishes sayin "anyway that's my story and im sticking to it".
Kerr actually said something like that again after their 6th (and final) ring during their celebration. Kerr was telling a story on how in the 6th game against Utah when the Bulls were down 3 points with 30+ seconds left in the game (right before MJ scored a quick layup, stole the ball from Karl Malone and hit that famous game winner shot with 5.2 seconds left). Well during the timeout huddle Kerr asked Phil if he can take a quick 3 pointer to tie the game...
Kerr said, "Coach gave me this disgusted look and said, 'Steve lets face it...what happened last year was a fluke. Get the ball to Michael, and get the hell outta his way!' So I think I contributed this yr by giving the ball to Michael, then moving away from him for him to drive in.""
haha Steve Kerr is dumb. i know Jerry Krause feels real shitty now.
SPMJ, I agree that visually he looks a bit slow, but by his performance you'd never know it: 46 pts/7 reb/5 ast/4 stl/3 blk and a blanket job on Isiah, holding him to 7 points and 6 assists on like 2-10 shooting. Oh yeah, he also hit the game-winner over Rodman. =P
MJ was running on fumes in this game. Probably the slowest I've ever seen him move in a game pre 1st retirement. But he was so skilled and his will so strong....he simply refused to let the Bulls lose.
The level of the NBA players in this era and in the 90s is about 100 times better than it is today. It's amusing how quickly players get into fights these days just from pushes here and there. No player in the NBA today could've played against the Jordan Rules and managed to defeat it the year after. Tex Winter had once referred to it as "murder", since any drive down the lane may result in a career ending injury.
MJ was more precise and less hesitant against Detroit than against any other team. He absorbed the Jordan Rules as best he could and adapted. Most players would succumb due to deficiency of intellect or a lack of will. He remains the paragon of basketball.
You typically find "young" so called experts of the game (as hilarious as that sounds) who say dumb stuff like that. You can't compare ANYBODY to "THIS" Michael Jordan. You may be able to compare SOME of these players in the league now to the MJ of '96-'98 "after" time stole some his godly physical gifts..but to compare these clowns in the league today to this MJ...that's a joke & a bad one at that...
Not to mention the handcheck rules, the "Jordan" rules/Flangrant foul rules (LOL), the new made for shaq charging rules...and our pro dream team LOST in the olympics a few years back. If that doesnt tell u the quality of players we got..nothing will.
Only needed reason that Michael is the best ever: He was double (sometimes triple) teamed throughout his whole career in a more physical league, and still dominated. LeBron, Kobe, and D-Wade will never be able to do that.
llBlackSnowl 2 weeks ago
This was the best Pistons team of all time in my opinion. They had two All-NBA Defense first-teamers, they won 31 of their final 37 regular season games and they swept a Lakers team that had not only defeated the Western Conference three straight years, but had also gone 11-0 through the first three rounds of the playoffs. Naturally, I don't think it would've happened if Scott and Magic had been healthy, but the Pistons would've still beaten them in 6. Just my opinion.
smoothALOE 4 months ago
@smoothALOE I"m a laker fan to the core but ultimately, I agree with you...Detroit deserved the 1989 outright
scorpionJB 2 months ago
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ar316309 8 months ago 80
jordan is way better them kobe and lebrons together
wilzusuki 9 months ago 2
...the pistons were meant to be the bad boys and one of the greatest all time defensive teams...how could they let jordan score 46 on them...
dazz95273 1 year ago
@dazz95273 let? lol
evilemetblack 11 months ago
hes so great at competing against a better team thatswhy hes the greatest
some145 1 year ago 2
No matter how physical tough the game or how crappy his team is playing Jordan doesnt quit until the buzzer rings.. Kobe quits in many occasions #1 is when the other team gets physical with him he quits #2 if someone bumps him too hard he quits #3 if his getting not enough fouls called he quits #5 #6 #7 .. etc the dude is a quitter who happen to be able make a few shots when the conditions are juuusst riiiiiggghhhttt. please MJ is bar non The Greatest Player of All Time and the Most Exciting
essycee04 1 year ago 2
@essycee04 Kobe quit when team get physical with ? He didn't quit with tough Celtic in 2010, He didnt quit against the Nuggets in 08, 09. He didn't quit with Houston in 09, He didn't quit with Portland, Spurs , Kings in 00-02. He didn't quit when his team rely on him to take the game winning shot time after time. How is Kobe a quitter ? Jordan is great but to say Kobe is a quitter is asinine
Kenny1984 5 months ago
@Kenny1984 are you serious defenders nowadays can´t even breathe on these so called superstars of today , bad boys pistons would have made kobe cry
Daken3687 5 months ago
all i know is the pistons beating the bulls 3 years in a row had nothing to do with Jordan's play. I watched these games on TV back then and it was Pippen, Grant, Cartwright, Paxson all stinking it up back then. The Bulls finally beat the Pistons when those same players stepped up their games
siward 1 year ago
peep the fake/catch jordan does at 21-24 seconds disgusting,,
jaymurk 1 year ago
@jaymurk dats nasty
bulls007 9 months ago
To put this into perspective for all you ignorant LA/Kobe fans. This Bulls team was the only team in the playoffs to defeat the Pistons. The Pistons swept through every team in the East (cept the Bulls) then went on to sweep an UNDEFEATED Magic Lakers team in the finals. This is back when Pippen wasnt really good so MJ still had to carry this team by himself. See the difference between this... and Kobe getting his ass beat by the Phoenix Suns. This 1989 Pistons team is in the top 10 GTOAT
willsmackyoudown 1 year ago 3
@willsmackyoudown Everything you said was on point except about the Lakers in the Finals. Byron Scott hurt his hamstring in practice even before game 1, and Magic pulled his own hamstring during game 2. So that sweep kinda comes with an asterisk:)
ThaLinguist 1 year ago
@ThaLinguist there is no damn asterisk you clown...if thats the case then the lakers get an asterisk for winning the 89' finals because isaiah got hurt and wasnt 100%....save your excuses.
getyoasshome 7 months ago
man, watching this video has made me realze two things
1.Jordan, is still undisputibly the best player to ever exist
2. The NBA has been extremely pussified over the past years. look how physical this game is!
lakersownsuns 1 year ago 4
@lakersownsuns Actually to be honest if ur talking fact wise Bill Russell is the best NBA player. Whos has more rings? 11>6 Evrybody always says what if he didnt retire or whatever but the truth is he did. There are really no ifs in basketball. MJ is definetlly what made the NBA but doesnt mean he is the best.
tekknking 1 year ago
@tekknking bro compare the overall talent of the nbain bill russel's time to mihceals time, in micheals time teams were alot better so it was much harder to win in win micheals time than it was in biill's time.
lakersownsuns 1 year ago
Bill russel is the greatest champion no doubt not the greatest player. Russell played in an era of something like 6 teams in which the teams all stayed together and the competition was not as spread out. To do what jordan and the bulls did in the 90's is almost unreal to think of. With Caps and 24 teams with talent split everywhere and the caliber of players I am sure it doesnt take must for one to see how unreal and lets not mention the individual stats off the charts.
Bigturns33 1 year ago
@tekknking Bill Russell is one of the greatest but he played with sam jones, tom heinson, bob cousy, john havlicek (the celtics all-time leading scorer, even more than larry bird), Don Nelson, K.C. Jones and more. His team was sooo superior to every one else. Jordan took one good player that became great and 10 other role players to 3 titles. After retiring he came back and to the same great player and added the ultimate role player in Rodman along side 9 different role players and won 3 more
AwH22311 1 year ago
man fuck this game! i remember being in camp (89) in michigan & the fucking kids gave me hell cause i was from chi!
edupbeat 1 year ago
Jordan is so competitive. He plays like a man possessed.
CJThaSavage 2 years ago 3
can't fuck with him
thepotent8th 2 years ago 3
I couldn't even write what I wanted to originally write in the space of this video... but basically, this man is just a miracle. ...A master.
funcdoktor 2 years ago 5
Joe Looked scared to guard him. Probably because he knew that you couldnt breathe on him or thered be a foul.
jepic1015 2 years ago
holly crap winner shot was amazing
nachobcs 2 years ago
Lets wade get those pussies calls he got against dallas against the bad boys. Wade would be out by game 2 if he tried that pussy shit back than. Jordans strength is really underrated. He can take a beating.
chitownkidd33 2 years ago
i'll say this for jordan he had real heart because we used to whoop on him every game. for several years he didn't care how hard it got he went hard every night against the pistons. jordan is the better player than kobe but i wonder how kobe would do if zones were still illegal
ramzeze3 2 years ago 3
Kobe Wouldnt Make It
BlacktopsList 2 years ago 4
Kobe's ability against the zone isn't even an issue when comparing him to Jordan. Jordan won the championship every full season that he played after he won his first as a Bull. Kobe lost in the finals in 2003 after 3peating! And In 2004 Kobe's Lakers didn't make the playoffs. That was followed by back to back losses to the Suns in the first round. The Lakers franchise went on a 7 year hiatus from winning the finals while Kobe was in his prime at his peak.
Bevsaw52 2 years ago
@Bevsaw52 check your facts man lakers lost int the conference semis against the spurs in 2003 and lost in the finals in 2004 against the pistons
CashCollecta 1 year ago
Are you kidding me wade did not have the greatest nba finals ever. The dude scored most of his points from the free-throw line than on tough jumpers. Its like every time he went to the rim he got a foul call. Jordan averaged 42.0 ppg and 7.2 apg in the 1993 NBA Finals against the phoenix suns who were considered a better team then the bulls that year by some experts. And no I don't hate kobe I just think that Michael Jordan's accolades are just too good to ever be matched. 14 MVP's thats sick.
LeeDiddy990 2 years ago 2
14 mvp's are correct, but dont forget the one year, when he got
BOTH MVP AND DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
maquino220 2 years ago 3
put high quality
Soundtrack1000 2 years ago
2:57
Dkouts57 2 years ago
Do you know his shooting % in this game?
airjordan1585 2 years ago
Yeah it was awesome!!
dahoss65 2 years ago
LOL what was that from Laimbeer at 2:00
AppearingC3P0 2 years ago
What pisses me off more than ever is the comparison of michael jordan to other players like Kobe and Lebron. Jordan is the greatest of all time last I checked Kobe's numbers are not even near jordan's. 5 MVP's 6 Finals MVP's, 3 All-Star MVP's 10 scoring titles, 6 NBA Championships. The Best Kobe can be is at least half as great as Jordan. So stop with the comparisions MJ is MJ and Kobe is Kobe end of story.
LeeDiddy990 2 years ago 8
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the best kobe can be is at least half as great as jordan. U are a true kobe hater.
kobe plays with Lebron and Wade two players that have the ability to be the best of all time...sure hall of famers... wades finals performance was the greatest ever.. and lebron has a rare god given size, athleticism and ability that has never been seen before...kobe is already more than half as good as jordan..please
yungbary1on1 2 years ago
WADES FINALS WAS THE GREATEST EVER? AGAINST THE mAVS? HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHIGN FOR 3 YRS ONLY?
kOBE IS NOT HALF AS GOOD AT ANYTHIGN EXCEPT FOR LONG RANGE SHOOTING HE PASSES JORDAN.
aS FAR AS lEBRON AND wADE...MIKE PLAYED AT A TIME WITH MAGIC AND LARRY...BOTH GUYS THAT WOUDL PISS ON WADE AND LEBRON.
AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE TRY WATCHING BASKETBALL PRE 2003 AND YOU MIGHT LEARN.
Dkouts57 2 years ago
Lebron and wade "sure hall of famers"
Magic and larry were being debated as who is the bets basketball player ever.
lmao....you have been watchign basketball for 5 yrs it looks like and only remember jordan vs utah or seattle
Dkouts57 2 years ago
My favorite MJ memory...for the series lead against a superior team, everyone knew he was getting the ball, Rodman on him -- didn't matter :).
drwood04 2 years ago
VINTAGE!!
cucuyo16 3 years ago
Jordan got buckets against real teams, without a lot of help, couldn't stop him. Kobe was slowed tremendously in last years finals vs. Celtics..Mike probably woulda gave them 35-40 plus per game..Mike at 29, W vs Blazers in the Finals, Kobe L vs Celts..come on...no comparison
wpspencer22 3 years ago
jordan es el puto amo..n1
airsergy 3 years ago
Hey guys, notice how the Kobe homers don't try and make any of their innane comments regarding the defense being 'weaker and easier' back in the 80's, on videos like this.
When they see Jordan taking on this legendary defense and still compile 46 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assist, for a high field goal % and leading his team to victory, even THEY have to realize that Kobe would struggle to average over 20ppg against the Bad Boy Pistons during a playoff series.
ChaosCat79 3 years ago 2
dats right!
cucuyo16 3 years ago
geez... stop hating.... each generation if different... hard to compare.... appreciate each great team player and time period.... kobe ain't mike.... mike wasn't dr j..... there were games where jordan wasn't God and struggled ..... boston had a great defense this past yr- plain and simple... different times, different generations...
6ft2220beast 2 years ago
Yep Jordan wasn't Dr J... MJ won SIX NBA titles and Finals MVPs... Not even the great Julius Erving did that moron! :)
ChaosCat79 2 years ago
u r missing my point.... when jordan first came into the league, they compared him to Dr. J.... I have seen countless comparisons to the next Magic, the next Bird (except white american players are extinct now).... I love Jordan, just tired of hearing people compare generations.... 80's and mid 90's were the peak of the NBA- HS kids skipping college ruining the game.... moron.....
6ft2220beast 2 years ago
Hey, I can agree with you on that point, the 80's and 90's where the best decades in the NBA's history.
My problem is that too MANY people are just flat out DISCREDITING the achievements of the likes of Jordan, Magic and Bird, by saying that they played in a "weaker era" of NBA basketball, all so they can then propel today's current crop of "superstars" to a status ABOVE them.
Now there's comparing generations rationally, then there's just being flat out IGNORANT of history! Not you BTW.
ChaosCat79 2 years ago
The only reason you guys say it's difficult to compare Jordan's and Kobe's generation is because Jordan KILLS Kobe in EVERY SINGLE significant category and in achievements.
If Kobe is this supposed "equal" to Jordan, he should have at least gone down FIGHTING. Even in the three successive seasons of being put out by the Pistons, Jordan gave his ALL and produced his best basketball... NOT let his team get blown out by 39 points in Game 6!
ChaosCat79 2 years ago 2
I didn't know one man could carry a team on his back- Odom disappeard, Gasol was out of position, Bynum's interior defense gone...... no one is saying Kobe is equal to Jordan, so get off that has been's d*ck dude....
Everyone knows Jordan is the best ever, so let his nuts go dude.... enjoy the new generations and quit comparing Kobe and Jordan.... and the "Kobe hasn't won without Shaq" card is lame- Jordan never won without Pippen or Phil Jackson- hoops is a team game and no one man can win
6ft2220beast 2 years ago
Umm, I'd be enjoying today's generation MORE and appreciating what they have achieved if people would just let them build up their OWN legacy first, without trying to step on those of players who went before them and, in most cases, have produced on a more consistent and spectacular basis.
Also I KNOW basketball is a team sport... The thing is Jordan might not have won an NBA titles without Pippen, but the Bulls NEVER WON A TITLE WHEN MJ WAS AWAY.
ChaosCat79 2 years ago
Odom disappeared? So he didn't shot 8-11 from the field, grab 10 rebounds, dish 4 assists and block a shot during the crucial Game 4 loss, whilst Kobe went 6-19?
ChaosCat79 2 years ago
Game 7 of 1990 ECF vs Detroit, Pippen faked a Migrane headache and Chicago got blasted by 20..... yes Jordan went down swinging but every great player needs his cast to step up and help- Kobe's disappeard in game 6 vs Boston, so i don't see how "Kobe" let his team lose....
people forget how long it took Jordan to get past Boston and Detroit.. he wasn't just a champion overnite
6ft2220beast 2 years ago
That's the thing though... Jordan at LEAST did go down swinging and trying to LEAD his team.
What did Kobe do? 7-22, 22 points, ONE assist, one steal.
Not exactly inspirational when your team is up against it at the Garden.
Ok the other Lakers should have stepped up more in that game, but Kobe should ALSO have stepped up his game too! I think Kobe is a GREAT player, but too often he has let HIMSELF down by not putting in his best in the crunch moments in Finals.
ChaosCat79 2 years ago 3
i realllyy want to see kobe, jordan and lebron play together on the same team.
TheAssgas 3 years ago
Better watch them play AGAINST each other (with age adjustment) hoho
hblaw 3 years ago
Man i miss those days!!They balled back n da day!!!
ssgoku003 3 years ago
are u fu Cking kidding me! omg.
nicksthenext23 3 years ago
At 2:08 that was a personal foul. In todays league it would be an automatic Flagrant 1 foul. This is the defense that I would like to see Kobe go up against. If I only hada time machine.
moybutter 3 years ago
kobe is too weak to go against such defense.. without mentioning skills just his build alone.. mj is much stronger physically then kobe
rumrumtanneo 3 years ago
Jordan only weighs 11 pounds more than Kobe, so Kobe isn't too weak. However his stats would drop significantly if he played during the 80's. But you probably know that already.
dippitydoppitydoo 3 years ago
did u guys watch how difficult it was for him to get his shots off in this game...man...some of those shots i can only get em off in my dreams
jjutube07 3 years ago
I remember seeing this game on TV and going wild over that hanging shot with 53 ticks left (2:58 to 3:01) and of course the game winner.
Actually, with 9 seconds left, Pistons had the ball and were called for an offensive foul. Then the look on the Pistons coach Chuck Daly said it all: he slumped on his seat and buried his face in his hands.
He knew: with the Bulls inbounding the ball with 9 tics left, the Pistons were going to lose as Jordan was going to score. Another priceless moment.
Milordvega 3 years ago
The dreaded Jordan rules man. Damn Detroit was like fuck it. We can't stop u but were going to kill the hell out of u evertime u touch the ball MJ and eventually just wear u out. Can't blamee them it worked 4 staright years, wonder why the Cavaliers never use that stratregy.
araynova 3 years ago
Nobody's better than MJ! Kobe doesn't even come close!!
jasondh22 3 years ago 46
dats true
jmaal2345 3 years ago
@jasondh22 Kobe who?
airandy41 1 year ago
@jasondh22 Yet he's the closest thing we've seen to MJ
KB24isClutcherThanMJ 5 months ago
@jasondh22 5 rings is pretty close to 6 rings
Kenny1984 5 months ago
did laimbeer ever do anything other than committing bad fouls and trying to kill other players? only if he paid a little attention to his game and performed for once
aliasad07 3 years ago
Laimbeer was one of the better rebounders and was probably one of if not the best outside shooting center of his time.
jeditwinz 3 years ago
THE "GOAT"...END OF STORY.
chds222 3 years ago 5
u guys should look up the video kobe bryant vs lebron james fight. this idiot went on their saying their both better then mj cuz when mike played there was no help defense. what a discrace.
nuzzinaples 3 years ago
that idiot is the result of this generations marketing.
WushuDude13 3 years ago 2
外国也有短迷？？？
PAUL3199 3 years ago
that's way better than lebron because he actually made the shot and didn't miss a layup for the game. lebron will never be like jordan.
kb24lakersfan 3 years ago
1:57 gotta love that.. It seems to me like a double team off the ball, and a friendly one too lol
rrTale 3 years ago
They giving him karate kicks everytime he drives/shoots.
The last shot MJ took would have been a foul in today's 'game'.
at1212b 3 years ago
the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be!
muradredalert 3 years ago
1980-1998 i'm referring to NBA in general not Mike obviously
Fallschirmjager11 3 years ago
the Bulls still lost this series and the Pistons went on to win the championship. Jordan was mad after this series loss.
Fallschirmjager11 3 years ago
...and even angrier after the series next year. Guess what happened next.
mackcrusher 3 years ago
His Airness proceeded to kick butt. It really is cool going back to the late 80's though and seeing how he had to fight and lose to some great teams back then before he could get his turn. Some very very great baskeball 1980-1998. Too bad I missed the first 12 years or so of it cuz I didn't care about bball then.
Fallschirmjager11 3 years ago
lets not forget the zones they have these days. nothing is man to man anymore. the pussification of basketball.
Jonnyf5 3 years ago
Only MJ can score 46 points in a Conference Finals against the most-feared defensive-minded team ever assembled in the history of the game! MJ rules!
ddeennpp 3 years ago
that was a football game...and black cat dominated. only j can fight that kind of war and make it look easy and loaded with style that cant be understood or duplicated.
jjl51999 3 years ago
Wow the physical nature of their defense is just shocking when you think about it. The fact that in today's game everyone on the Pistons would have fouled out by the third quarter is funny. Not to mention that Game winner was pretty remarkable. I think it's interesting that this game winner isn't shown as much as the other ones. Also check out 1:44. You can see hand checking at its best. It's just crazy how much it's changed. If someone defended a player today like that, they'd end up in a fight
Amir883 3 years ago
nobody COULD touch leBron in that game if they wanted to,and he had 48 not 40.......
badmon1123 3 years ago
You're right, it would have been against the rules. I just said 40 becasue I couldn't remember the exact amount.
I can't think of a clearer example of how the game has changed. You can watch what the hand-checking rules have done.
TBlake34 3 years ago
These are the games that make MJ the greatest, and why it is impossible to ever compare Kobe or LeBron. Neither of those guys ever had to face such a furious game.
Everybody went nuts over LeBron's 40pt game against the Pistons last year. Watch this game, and then watch that one. No one touches LeBron, they don't double team him, and he barely has a shot contested. Not even close.
TBlake34 3 years ago
Greatest of all time.
Vitalfitness4u 3 years ago
The old Chicago Stadium was deafening
bwink23 4 years ago
even more deafening during hawks games
widwag 4 years ago
I like how he stays up in the air for about 3 seconds at 3:20. Uncanny
flandersfails 4 years ago
I don't know if it was meant to, but I like the sound effect between 3:26 and 3:30. It's like saying : "now, something unhuman is going to happen. It is science fiction. It's Michael Jordan's time !".
guigau28 4 years ago
I love how he spins in the air after receiving the pass at the :22 mark, he was so instinctive, always ahead of everyone and everything
nunadas 4 years ago
Now look at this hes going against top defenders like Dumars whom jordan said he was the best he had ever went against and hes just torching him. They are playing Physical and hes still taking it to the lane. Most players would crumble. Jordan just says F you.
Bigturns33 4 years ago
Agree big time.
vcatequista 4 years ago
Jordan and Kobe are great players. Jordan by far is the better player and Kobe has a chance to go down as a top 5 player from his own era. Jordan should be compared to Shaq and Duncan who are the only leaders with multi-championships. Read my channel description. I guarantee you that it teaches you more about the game and the history of MJ and the history of Kobe.
Lebronmvp07 4 years ago
No, absolutely NOBODY could be compared to MJ. Shaq and Duncan? LOL
flandersfails 4 years ago
hehe, bit hard to compare such completely different play styles also!
renuoz 2 years ago
MJ is the best of all time
dustin619 4 years ago
I hate the Detroit Pistons.
mnysvr 4 years ago
The greatest ever that's the need to be said
ninaboi5150 4 years ago
JORDAN 妳是神,永遠愛妳
chenyun01 4 years ago
Hoops, MJ shot 16-26 in this game and also had 5 steals and only two turnovers. (source: Star Tribune and Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 28 May 1989)
He also kept Isiah to 5pts on 2 of 8 shooting and forced four turnovers. Really a legendary game.
starks23 4 years ago
Yeah, 5 points and like 7 assists. The commentators kept remarking what a great job Jordan did keeping Isiah out of the lane. 46/7/5/4/2 including the game-winner against two of the best defenders in the lague (Dumars/Rodman) and superb defense on one of the game's premier PG's. Amazing.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
Well, no, the Bulls won the game if that's what you're talking about. In other games where Jordan tried to rely more on his teammates, they could not win.
sfhguibnbhq 4 years ago
bUT WHO WIN THE D WIN
nbamario 4 years ago
hoops my friend what about his top rookie performance where he got 49 points, 15 rebs and 5 ast, in a win against the pistons? i'd love to see that one
rrTale 4 years ago
Well I can say that I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
sfhguibnbhq 4 years ago
hey hoops, do you know how mj shot in this game?
sfhguibnbhq 4 years ago
I didn't keep track of that in this one either. I was trying to find it but couldn't. A lot of times, if there is 1 or 2 blocks I don't list it. I guess I'll put up the full stats from hereon.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Hoops, I was at my best friend from school's house. I saw some of the fourth and the shot. That's how I shot my layups (have cerebral palsy)I had to stop, jump and bank it. I went outside to his goal thinking, Mike hit my shot as GW!
p.s. you know this my favorite time- anymore from the playoff series soon?
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romans6thru8 4 years ago
Good video, utfanatic2000.
JJlaker2000 4 years ago
the balls on this guy..5 guys in the paint waitin for u to come in so they can crush u, and michael would do it time and time again like he was alone in the court.
rrTale 4 years ago
if lebron wants to be this genereations michael jordan he should start attacking the rim instead of settling for fade away jumpers vs guys who are 4 inches and 30 pounds lighter then him...jason kidd:P Greatest ever is a 4way tie for me. Bird-Magic-Jordan-Chamberlain... p.s. I'll quote charles barkley on this one: 'the only thing kobe and MJ have in commen is that they both black'
ab40 4 years ago
Everytime someone foolishly tries to argue that anyone other than MJ is/was the greatest ever, they should have to watch this game. Amazing.
TBlake34 4 years ago
Now that there was real basketball youngins! Rough, tough and Jordan LOL. I don't even like to watch it now.
Wardfolio 4 years ago
i like the toughness Michael Jordan displayed in this despite being the object of the so called "Jordan Rules" He never showed any sign of fatigue or fear. He relentless attacked the basket all the time. He is simply the best ever.
mjdbest 4 years ago
It's easy to score for Kobe because he is in the western conference. He still shoots for bad percentages and he picks on the same teams.
glawz 4 years ago
By Michael's first championship season in 1991 he scored 40 or more points against every team in the NBA. By 1993 he scored 50 points against every team in the eastern conference. Also they were dedicated to stopping MJ but they couldn't. Even the bad boy Detroit team tried to stop him but half the time they couldn't.
glawz 4 years ago
It's easier to score now too
glawz 4 years ago
MJ is the best. He played against the toughest, strong people back then. Nba was more rough and violent less pussy fouls were called, nowadays you see kobe getting suspended..wtf is that, dumbass david stern hes getting soft. But even though the pistons won this, so what WHO WON 6! AFTERWARDS, JORDAN!! BABY WOO!
therandom2006 4 years ago
People always like to post about how their teams won a game. Wow, why can't you just appreciate the greatest there ever will be?
sfhguibnbhq 4 years ago
just think about kobe's performance while facing the pistons in the 04finals,kobe has no right to be campared to mj.
perfectnick 4 years ago
Yeah well.. they got smoked in the rest of the games cept 1. Go Pistons!
OckJuHyun 5 years ago
man i just cant remember who won this serious. HAve fun with the washed up ben wallace didn't even make the allstar team
tufn 5 years ago
Pistons in six
jaboo82681 4 years ago
Jordan.. always too good.
Laimbeer should have been a janitor.. useless thick head.
nj23dublin 5 years ago
but i think wade copies mj unintentionally(unlike some people *coughKobe*cough ) cause he grew up watching him in his town,
usamaj 5 years ago
but kobe says his favorite player is Magic Johnson, cough, couugh...hehehe
colex91 5 years ago
I would like to point out the toughness of MJ. He was hit, kicked, punched, slammed to the ground by the bad boy pistons but still played hard. He was a warrior. No matter how soar he was after one of these games, he challenged himself to be even greater the next game.
D7B 5 years ago
And didn't complain or whine like a spoiled millionaire!
at1212b 3 years ago
kinda like the wade shot in dallas last year and once this year
usamaj 5 years ago
it's really cool seeing Dennis rodman on Jordan when they became teammates later on in their career.
hotjun 5 years ago
The best part about that winning shot was that before the play, Chuck Daly told the Pistons exactly what type of move and shot Jordan was going take, and they still couldn't stop him.
cooljjjj 5 years ago
these were classi moment, i dont think any star would have survive these bad boys.. AI probably the closest.. no one else .. MJ G.O.A.T
bigtwin31 5 years ago
Rick Mahorn rules
paowibird 5 years ago
Jordan is god
dtew23 5 years ago
Thats the difference b/w some players and Jordan, some players would choke up against certain teams, Jordan would come at any team and "dare" them to stop him..He is and will be the greatest.Thats my story and Im sticking with it!
bigdawg4ever 5 years ago
thats no story thats a fact
crayrayc 5 years ago
"That's my story and I'm sticking with (to?) it!" This is a reference to Steve Kerr's speech after his game winning shot in the 1997 finals. It was hilarious.
guigau28 4 years ago
I remember that. Let me put that in context. They were back in Chicago after winning their 5th ring in front of the crowd celebrating and Steve made a little speech of his own. He was joking about having to bail Michael out since MJ had been asked to make the game winning shot 26 times and missed, so he (Kerr) asked Phil to be the one taking the last shot.
rrTale 4 years ago
Of course this was nothin but a funny story Kerr came up with to entertain the fans. He finishes sayin "anyway that's my story and im sticking to it".
Those were great days.
rrTale 4 years ago
Kerr actually said something like that again after their 6th (and final) ring during their celebration. Kerr was telling a story on how in the 6th game against Utah when the Bulls were down 3 points with 30+ seconds left in the game (right before MJ scored a quick layup, stole the ball from Karl Malone and hit that famous game winner shot with 5.2 seconds left). Well during the timeout huddle Kerr asked Phil if he can take a quick 3 pointer to tie the game...
anointedvictor 3 years ago
Kerr said, "Coach gave me this disgusted look and said, 'Steve lets face it...what happened last year was a fluke. Get the ball to Michael, and get the hell outta his way!' So I think I contributed this yr by giving the ball to Michael, then moving away from him for him to drive in.""
haha Steve Kerr is dumb. i know Jerry Krause feels real shitty now.
anointedvictor 3 years ago
Steve Kerr is funny :P
renuoz 2 years ago
SPMJ, I agree that visually he looks a bit slow, but by his performance you'd never know it: 46 pts/7 reb/5 ast/4 stl/3 blk and a blanket job on Isiah, holding him to 7 points and 6 assists on like 2-10 shooting. Oh yeah, he also hit the game-winner over Rodman. =P
jordanlover23 5 years ago
MJ was running on fumes in this game. Probably the slowest I've ever seen him move in a game pre 1st retirement. But he was so skilled and his will so strong....he simply refused to let the Bulls lose.
SPMJ 5 years ago
The level of the NBA players in this era and in the 90s is about 100 times better than it is today. It's amusing how quickly players get into fights these days just from pushes here and there. No player in the NBA today could've played against the Jordan Rules and managed to defeat it the year after. Tex Winter had once referred to it as "murder", since any drive down the lane may result in a career ending injury.
Frank87 5 years ago
MJ was more precise and less hesitant against Detroit than against any other team. He absorbed the Jordan Rules as best he could and adapted. Most players would succumb due to deficiency of intellect or a lack of will. He remains the paragon of basketball.
chinngis83 5 years ago
when people say kobes better, go here http://www.23jordan.com/cgi-bin/forum/forum.pl?board=Jordan;action=display;num=1145917031
And put them to sleep. Copy it paste it use it. Let em know...
trancemynd 5 years ago
You typically find "young" so called experts of the game (as hilarious as that sounds) who say dumb stuff like that. You can't compare ANYBODY to "THIS" Michael Jordan. You may be able to compare SOME of these players in the league now to the MJ of '96-'98 "after" time stole some his godly physical gifts..but to compare these clowns in the league today to this MJ...that's a joke & a bad one at that...
blackadam06 5 years ago
Not to mention the handcheck rules, the "Jordan" rules/Flangrant foul rules (LOL), the new made for shaq charging rules...and our pro dream team LOST in the olympics a few years back. If that doesnt tell u the quality of players we got..nothing will.
trancemynd 5 years ago
You're right Trance....nuff said..
blackadam06 5 years ago
DIRTY!!...
whitehowling 5 years ago
You aren't psychic.
Jackpwnz 5 years ago
MJ would average 45ppg with the defensive rules the NBA has today, and just imagine how many times he would go to the free throw line!
lyricalsail 5 years ago
just compare kobe and jordan..... try to put kobe in michael's situation and see if his ass can still score
MrGentlehand 5 years ago
awesome
patentedtaha 5 years ago
Is it just me or does his game winning shot look very similiar to Wade's shot to tie regulation in game 5 of the finals?
notben1 5 years ago
if it wasn't fore Hoopsencyclopedia-i would have never been able to see these games and highlights-of michael jordan! thank you hoops'
jjl51999 5 years ago
Michael is god
tomernoy 5 years ago
No way Kobe could score over 30 against those Bad Boys.
redWinter 5 years ago
Kobe sucks
jplaya2023 5 years ago
Wow they really did play dirty back then.
BusBoyIsBack 5 years ago
CHOZEN!!!!!!
jordancollector23 5 years ago
the last shot has been long well know, but this is the first time I know which game it was. thanks for the effort.
WHAT A PLEASURE TO WATCH HIM PLAY!
mythia 5 years ago