@wikieditspam Then he loses...horribly. I went up against a Tau army with my Death Guard army. In his shooting he killed all but one of my terminators. That one terminator made it into combat and killed 13 fire warriors before he finally died. By then the rest of my army closed in and it was a slaughterfest. Same thing with my Eldar when I played Tau. 3 banshees were all it took to murder his men. And that was BEFORE my Swooping Hawks returned from using Skyleap for the 2nd time that game.
@Arkaeya I think you might have made my night. I have a whole bunch of terminators that I got from space hulk, haven't gotten around to basing and painting (I'm on the wrong continent from them right now), but that reinforced my plan for them in my list.
two tau questions that i've been kinda confused on.
1) why is it better to take 2 suits instead of three in a unit?
2) not completely sure about this, but in a 1500 game, can you take 2 HQs? Ansd would it be better to take 2 HQ Suits with bodyguards and three units of suits as elites?
me i like tau on the dawn of wazr and thats all me if get a tau army i need to win it and yes i have have just like dawn of war like that army list the one thing wich color skeem do i do ?? and fore me in dawn of war the tau tanks go so slow why dont know addlest eldare get thare and jump over things not tau take thare own seet time this just ME
You can't wound allocate that way if the team leader is armed same or different from the other suit and you only have two you have to go one on each you don't get to dump insta kills on one model in a unit if there are enough to spread out. Now if you had 2 strength 8 and 2 str 4 then yes you could.
@babypooon wierd how a grot's BS is higher than a warboss aswell? and they have the worst guns in the entire game i think. ive played many games and managed to kill about 2 gaunts with 10. really i just use them to hold back the enemy and let the waaagh do its buisness
nice tactic, but isnt that pricy as hell? I mean, 2 hammerheads in 1500 pts. that is like at least 300 pts? and than the suit teams. 2 times (25+20+12+10) + 5 for the team leder. this comes to 139 * 3 . this is another 400 points or so. I think that if you use this against marines, you can use sniper teams too. they are ap3, long range and nice hitting with the markerlight. and cheaper.
@Javaka2 The problem is with sniper drones is they are far to static and they have little to no anti tank abilitys. The advantage with with the suits is if SM decide to take terminator you also have an answer for that. It's pricy to go this way, but these 5 units (suits and tanks) can easily earn their points back in smaller point games. Especially with both of them being able to hurt tanks and infintry depending on your need. That and being mobile is a huge advantage in 5th.
@Ichigo9913 3 broadsides take up too many points for lower points levels. Plus, when all of the enemy tanks are gone, broadsides value go way down. Point for point the Hammerhead is better because it can do everything the broadsides can plus be able to reposition if needed, provide moving cover and can only be harmed by high str. guns. Besides, with the str 7 missiles from the suits, you only need 2 railguns anyway.
@rustbucket34373 "overkill is underrated" is usually the way i'll play if the points are avalable, plus with tau its a bit better to have more long range units is it not? 3 twin linked strength 10 shots every turn wreaking havoc on characters every turn is quite useful, especially when combined with the hammerhead's shots. once the heavy units are gone you can just start picking off the more useful infantry and lower. just my own way of playing, but your advice is helpful. any tips 4 broadsides?
@Ichigo9913 Stick them in the back part of your deployment, make sure they have clear lanes to shoot and if worse comes to worse, charge anything that doesnt' have a power weaopn in the unit.
Thanks for the tips Josh, big fan of all your batreps and tactics. Just had a quick question, when you have the 2 xv8's behind the HH wouldn't they just get a cover save of 4+ or does the skimmer block LOS. Keep up the good work.
@Tauownz The HH will block LOS to the suits for almost everthing in front of it. Just make sure the suits are in single file behind the HH. It gets harder to pull off in bigger games with units of 3. Best way to perfect using this is just to set up a HH, put the suits behind and place infintry and tanks on the front side of the HH and see where the enemy units will start to see your suits. Remember to see a unit you have to see the torso, arms, head or legs. Bases and weapons don't count.
@TheBustinchops I think that that would only further distract them. More time on the forums = less time on other things. And can you name 1 thing that the BTP group do that you DON'T want them to do more of?
Tau is such a boring army to play as. Either you play a Gunline or Mech army and try to shoot all the 3+ armies until you get facerolled in close combat.
I agree on the 2 crysis he also forgot to mention they are much easier to hide behind stuff. Pushing your list to 2000 you definitly want those extra shots from the third crysis. Kootos on the great advice.
It's been a while but aren't the smart missiles on the Hammerhead s5? I thought if you did a submunition shot, you wouldn't be able to shoot anything else over s4 which made them irrelevant.
are vespids worth taking i have heard that they are bad because of the cost and the bs, but the bs can be fixed with marker lights so is this viable?
Knm8613 3 weeks ago
im looking at the stats for the plasma rifle it dosent say it negates cover saves where is that rule at ?
ironhidewulf 1 month ago
@ironhidewulf
No, its the missle pod that negates cover
pbdimitri 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the tips!
GrimSoul66 1 month ago
just fyi heat lance is str6 ap1 lance melta
but still a great tactic to think about
jmg101 3 months ago
So far, I haven't gone up against a legit Tau army.
wikieditspam 4 months ago
My tau tactics, Shoot 'em before they assault you.
Hound419 6 months ago
@Hound419 When they do hit you, what then?
wikieditspam 4 months ago
@wikieditspam Then he loses...horribly. I went up against a Tau army with my Death Guard army. In his shooting he killed all but one of my terminators. That one terminator made it into combat and killed 13 fire warriors before he finally died. By then the rest of my army closed in and it was a slaughterfest. Same thing with my Eldar when I played Tau. 3 banshees were all it took to murder his men. And that was BEFORE my Swooping Hawks returned from using Skyleap for the 2nd time that game.
Arkaeya 3 months ago
@Arkaeya I think you might have made my night. I have a whole bunch of terminators that I got from space hulk, haven't gotten around to basing and painting (I'm on the wrong continent from them right now), but that reinforced my plan for them in my list.
wikieditspam 3 months ago
two tau questions that i've been kinda confused on.
1) why is it better to take 2 suits instead of three in a unit?
2) not completely sure about this, but in a 1500 game, can you take 2 HQs? Ansd would it be better to take 2 HQ Suits with bodyguards and three units of suits as elites?
Xtreme10385 6 months ago
Rock on brother
chaserhemagi 6 months ago
Negates Feel no pain? don't know what codex your looking at Josh, but I'd prefer that one to my regular codex :p
Fusion blasters yes because there Str 8 vs the usual SM Toughness 4, Plasmas Str 6, it will do nothing against Feel no Pain.
Llevarion 7 months ago
@Llevarion AP 2 negates Feel no pain as well.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
@Llevarion hes right, ap2 means no fnp!
bu5jocky 6 months ago
great vid thanks Josh. Dunk
dunk1978banker 7 months ago
HOLY CRAP! Yore still around, haven't seen you around in a while...
Anonymarine 7 months ago
it looks as if he has lost a bit of weight, since last year.
IFeltLuckyfilms 7 months ago
me i like tau on the dawn of wazr and thats all me if get a tau army i need to win it and yes i have have just like dawn of war like that army list the one thing wich color skeem do i do ?? and fore me in dawn of war the tau tanks go so slow why dont know addlest eldare get thare and jump over things not tau take thare own seet time this just ME
redgreen09 7 months ago
all good advice but I prefer twinlinked suits
makooma 7 months ago
those are target locks, not multi trackers
BobThePokeMaster 7 months ago
A full sniper drone team also lay waist to space marines, unfortunately they're kinda costly (if I remember correctly) and they really can't move.
mshig11 7 months ago
a "space marine heavy environment"
can be used to accurately describe any 40k group in any area around the globe :)
Tartersauce101 7 months ago
Well if the team leader is the last one and has a bonding knife he can attempt to rally if he is the last of 3.
Da40kOrks 7 months ago
You can't wound allocate that way if the team leader is armed same or different from the other suit and you only have two you have to go one on each you don't get to dump insta kills on one model in a unit if there are enough to spread out. Now if you had 2 strength 8 and 2 str 4 then yes you could.
wakcedout 7 months ago
It doesn't appear as though you washed your hair this week.
Silverws69 7 months ago
can i just say Tau are meant to be good at shooting but they have the same BS as an Ork grot WTF GW
babypooon 7 months ago
@babypooon They are not meant to be good at shooting at all. They simply have good guns. In fact, their eyesight is worse than a human's.
LichLordKrull 7 months ago
@babypooon wierd how a grot's BS is higher than a warboss aswell? and they have the worst guns in the entire game i think. ive played many games and managed to kill about 2 gaunts with 10. really i just use them to hold back the enemy and let the waaagh do its buisness
MrKoiking1 7 months ago
@MrKoiking1 lol
babypooon 7 months ago
Do a imperial guard tactics for a 600pt game to 1000pt game ty
SpiderDroid2 7 months ago
nice tactic, but isnt that pricy as hell? I mean, 2 hammerheads in 1500 pts. that is like at least 300 pts? and than the suit teams. 2 times (25+20+12+10) + 5 for the team leder. this comes to 139 * 3 . this is another 400 points or so. I think that if you use this against marines, you can use sniper teams too. they are ap3, long range and nice hitting with the markerlight. and cheaper.
Javaka2 7 months ago
@Javaka2 The problem is with sniper drones is they are far to static and they have little to no anti tank abilitys. The advantage with with the suits is if SM decide to take terminator you also have an answer for that. It's pricy to go this way, but these 5 units (suits and tanks) can easily earn their points back in smaller point games. Especially with both of them being able to hurt tanks and infintry depending on your need. That and being mobile is a huge advantage in 5th.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
again...Yay for Josh!
Tboysupreme 7 months ago
what about a unit of 3 broadsides on the other side of the map providing accurate support for the infantry while taking up the last HS slot?
Ichigo9913 7 months ago
@Ichigo9913 3 broadsides take up too many points for lower points levels. Plus, when all of the enemy tanks are gone, broadsides value go way down. Point for point the Hammerhead is better because it can do everything the broadsides can plus be able to reposition if needed, provide moving cover and can only be harmed by high str. guns. Besides, with the str 7 missiles from the suits, you only need 2 railguns anyway.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
@rustbucket34373 "overkill is underrated" is usually the way i'll play if the points are avalable, plus with tau its a bit better to have more long range units is it not? 3 twin linked strength 10 shots every turn wreaking havoc on characters every turn is quite useful, especially when combined with the hammerhead's shots. once the heavy units are gone you can just start picking off the more useful infantry and lower. just my own way of playing, but your advice is helpful. any tips 4 broadsides?
Ichigo9913 7 months ago
@Ichigo9913 Stick them in the back part of your deployment, make sure they have clear lanes to shoot and if worse comes to worse, charge anything that doesnt' have a power weaopn in the unit.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
we need more of this guy !
mtimpy360 7 months ago
Thanks for the tips Josh, big fan of all your batreps and tactics. Just had a quick question, when you have the 2 xv8's behind the HH wouldn't they just get a cover save of 4+ or does the skimmer block LOS. Keep up the good work.
Tauownz 7 months ago
@Tauownz The HH will block LOS to the suits for almost everthing in front of it. Just make sure the suits are in single file behind the HH. It gets harder to pull off in bigger games with units of 3. Best way to perfect using this is just to set up a HH, put the suits behind and place infintry and tanks on the front side of the HH and see where the enemy units will start to see your suits. Remember to see a unit you have to see the torso, arms, head or legs. Bases and weapons don't count.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
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TheBustinchops 7 months ago
@TheBustinchops I think that that would only further distract them. More time on the forums = less time on other things. And can you name 1 thing that the BTP group do that you DON'T want them to do more of?
Emidretrauqe 7 months ago
Nice tips.
Arbie8327 7 months ago
Tau is such a boring army to play as. Either you play a Gunline or Mech army and try to shoot all the 3+ armies until you get facerolled in close combat.
KirKanos08 7 months ago
Josh knows his stuff! Great work!
09austin09 7 months ago
Hey well done, have you someone with tactics for Imperial Guard?
2561993M 7 months ago
this is to the person that dislikes every video BTP makes...your not funny, your not cool, your a moron and a loser...that is all.
sonhighguy 7 months ago 2
Thank you Josh very good
Spacesharks40k 7 months ago
I used to borrow my dad's Tau army once in awhile. 3 teams of 3 in 1,500 pt. games. Nasty list.
WolfMetal45 7 months ago
I agree on the 2 crysis he also forgot to mention they are much easier to hide behind stuff. Pushing your list to 2000 you definitly want those extra shots from the third crysis. Kootos on the great advice.
Malthus 7 months ago
lol sweating after moving 6 models
Potato69 7 months ago
@Potato69 lol, trolling an hour after the video is posted. New record for you I belive.
rustbucket34373 7 months ago
It's been a while but aren't the smart missiles on the Hammerhead s5? I thought if you did a submunition shot, you wouldn't be able to shoot anything else over s4 which made them irrelevant.
Gaunt75 7 months ago
There is that iconic smile again (0:10)
TrunkMonkey707 7 months ago
w00t josh do this more:)
TheWrakker 7 months ago
love it not many people do tau tactics thank you! and josh your awesome!
EraserRazor 7 months ago