I didn't think someone human could make a song of this enormous beauty... It is sad and happy at the smae time, human and more than human at the same time... It evokes emotions in me that haven't stired in a llong time. In one word: Amazing.
There just is something about this song that just resonates within me, I can't explain why. Not just the lyrics and the vocal elements, but the melody just carries me.
this is the kind of artist who makes music from her heart.she is music.
i'm a new fan of imogen heap and i listened to each and every single one of her songs.And every song of hers has successfully put me in another dimention where there's just me and my own deifniton of the world.she is music.
4:05 to the 4:40 is the best part of the song (although the whole song kicks ass). I like to think it is about being in love with someone who doesn't love you in return. We all know this pain too well.
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I love the mood of this song. It sounds like abandonment and freedom at the same time, and the conflict that a character would feel upon experiencing both. It sounds like hope in spite of desolation.
@AniRemi wow well said! i totally agree! :) i am doing a duet to this song and were doing a good vs evil type thing and i love the way you described the song!
Imogen Heap always finds a way to pull at my heart strings. She has such a gift with words, and there are always so much meaning behind her songs. She's brilliant.
I have an overactive imgaiantion, and I imagine an animation to most of my music. I always imagine a lot of nature, moutains, valleys, and rivers with this. It's always cool, and it rains. It's bizzarre. If I imagine a character, they travel. I love my Canvas imginationings. This music makes for great animation xD
@IAmWaverly Same here. My mind just takes me places, a lot like you described. Her songs inspire a lot of my art, I would love to animate something to one of her songs someday :]
This song's my new favorite of hers. It's so haunting and peaceful.
Earthware and cracks in the temperature refer to ceramics, not geology. Earthware is another name for ceramic goods, and often, if put in the kiln (furnace) poorly or not made well, the ceramic can crack or even break when being baked. They're basically both artistic metaphors. What they're about, though, is more difficult to say. The rest of the song doesn't seem to fit with global warming... anyway, her songs tend to be more personal than that, if that's anything to go by. Who knows but her?
SilverAlchemist: Your statement is very much explanatory, and, well, not wrong. However, if by the global warming, you meant someone else mentioned, I don't see much. I get she's talking about something she struggles to keep together, however, this can in fact interpret something referring to her personal life itself, maybe it's a romantic story, or suicide, depression, etc. Or, when referring to cracks, the withering of earth,when you want to think about Earth issues, I guess. Nice point though
Yes, by global warming, I was referring to something IAmWaverly said above. I don't think the song really has to do with that at all. I read somewhere that Imogen said most of her songs come from personal experience involving family, friends, or boyfriends. I'm pretty sure this one is similar. What the exact topic is, however, is much more of a mystery. Suicide and depression is an interesting correlation, though - I hadn't thought of that one.
no i was going ??? bcause someone said they said he got into this from drum n bass.... the high contrast remix, and yes :-) imogen heap put so much energy and emotion passion and everything into a single song and ussally based on a true story i love them :-)
she never stops surprising me... all of her songs are so original, so different, special, REAL... I've been listening to her for two years now and she's my angel of music. There's just no one like her! Imogen, you're my inspiration and roul model, you're music is my life<3
If I was to ever to take ectasy again think I would listen to this album all threw the roll. Such a amazing album it almost puts your mind in another world.
Love it! Love her! Tidal and FTH are my other 2 faves on this release, but all good. For those new to her (miniFriis et al.) check out Speak for Yourself as well- also a wonderful CD (her previous), as is her work with G.S. on Frou Frou (Details)- more most excellent work! You can find a lot of it here too, but great to have the CDs in the car stereo as well, and she greatly deserves our support in buying her work, IMHO. Thanks Immi!
it's not her in the video and even if she should have shown her face at the end, I don't think she would have had time to be part of the video in the artic cycle (or wherever this video has been shot). I guess it's a shame !
Is it just me or are all Imogen fans obsessed to the point of ridicule with her music. I don't think I've ever met someone who just kinda liked her...
this song at first I listened to it and I didn't like it but as I listened to it more and more I liked it I really didn't care for the video I maybe just don't understand it
it was the same with first train home I wasn't sure if I liked it or not but I love them =]
you can't just kinda like her it's not rihanna or lady gaga or whatever pop tart we can hear today she's pure genius and unique i agree with you we're all obsessed by her :D
only discovered (well , rediscovered) her a few weeks ago and already i've watched every single one of her video blogs and the only music i've listened to for weeks has been her and frou frou !!
Oh no... the release of first train home disabled me for long enough. Now along comes another song that I will have to listen to a couple hundred times.... I'm not going to get anything done for a week... oh well : )
Love the minimalist and eastern influences. Love the time signature and the vocals rhythm. The guitar is phenomanal and the piano cuts through like the ice in the video. Canvas, A-Ha and Bad Body Double are the 3 I was looking forward to just from the 12-second snippets and such, and I'm so happy Canvas worked out so well. The video is a masterpiece too. How amazing would this be to see on MTV and VH1 every day?
I love Imogen Heap with all of my heart. I've just listened to this song for the first time, and immediately made an account just to comment this song! The video for it is just amazing. Her, as well. I am a huge fan, and probably one of the bigger ones (:
glad you like it :) not being funny but... for those who haven't seen the video... this is kind of a spoiler image no?? what about a nice mystery one? :) x really really glad people are into this song. This is in my fave top 3 on the album xxx
I'd say, "Tidal" (would love to hear an acoustic version of that one!), "First Train Home" (because I experienced one of the best moments of my life with that song playing, and "Half Life", since I can really relate to it. My all-time favourite's still Headlock - love all the little beeps and bells and harpy things! And its lyrics are very profound. What are yours?
all i can say is, this is gorgeous. Its so strange to finally hear the full version of this and FTH after so long of only hearing little snippets and making my own version in my head. its so different from what i'd imagined, but so much more amazing.
this makes me think so much....the beginning is so beautiful. it's just pure art!
marly1996 1 month ago
nice song
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I <3 Stefan, he is a babe, I think about him to this song. It is as beautiful as he is.
1Pallendrome1 3 months ago
I <3 Stefan, hes is a babe, I think about him to this song. It is as beautiful as he is.
1Pallendrome1 3 months ago
I disliked this video. BwaHaHaHa!
calical22 7 months ago
@calical22 then why are you listening to it???
xoArianaGrandexo 5 months ago
7 people need love and are sound deaf..........
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jcfbell3001 9 months ago
I didn't think someone human could make a song of this enormous beauty... It is sad and happy at the smae time, human and more than human at the same time... It evokes emotions in me that haven't stired in a llong time. In one word: Amazing.
XD I got all poetic lol
Eternal715 10 months ago
7 people's souls dwell in the abyss...
mproebstle 10 months ago
Got into imogen this week. I really love the instrument work on her songs and her style is awesome!
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xzbzsdhfhnds 1 year ago
take how AMAZING this song is in your right mind then multiply it by 8732897390127902 and add four...
THAT is how amazing it is high.
vikkit13 1 year ago 4
This song surrounds me and ignites my soul.
NerdyGirl92 1 year ago
There just is something about this song that just resonates within me, I can't explain why. Not just the lyrics and the vocal elements, but the melody just carries me.
kuryamtl 1 year ago 2
sounds a lot like American's Beauty's main theme
pl600 1 year ago
this is the kind of artist who makes music from her heart.she is music.
i'm a new fan of imogen heap and i listened to each and every single one of her songs.And every song of hers has successfully put me in another dimention where there's just me and my own deifniton of the world.she is music.
marlinelolfans 1 year ago 10
4:05 to the 4:40 is the best part of the song (although the whole song kicks ass). I like to think it is about being in love with someone who doesn't love you in return. We all know this pain too well.
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ephedradiet 1 year ago
I love imogen heap´s music it makes me feel alive
giarbita 1 year ago 6
makes my vagina tingle
CRFxX 1 year ago
@CRFxX LULZ WUT?
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If I had a Vagina, it would totally tingling right now
Starboyed 1 year ago
This was the song that was in the Lovely Bones trailer right?
502455fan4Eva 1 year ago
No. That was 2-1.
COLDSAPPHIRE909909 1 year ago
@502455fan4Eva wrong
AwesomeJipness 1 year ago
What would I do without imogen heaps music? Probably die, so it's good I have it.
WRITEfluidity 1 year ago 5
Every time it snows, I have this song stuck in my head. It's wonderful!
Bakkazaru 2 years ago 7
I love the mood of this song. It sounds like abandonment and freedom at the same time, and the conflict that a character would feel upon experiencing both. It sounds like hope in spite of desolation.
*bricks self* Quit playing pyschologist.
AniRemi 2 years ago 59
amen.
exactly what I felt the first time I heard this.
missmcmahon 2 years ago
@AniRemi wow well said! i totally agree! :) i am doing a duet to this song and were doing a good vs evil type thing and i love the way you described the song!
poladotsa 1 year ago 3
@AniRemi what a great way to describe something! PHEW!
swept me off my feet!
BchangingN 1 year ago
this stuff is worth...it does give u a feel of winter
bleacHfreakAur 2 years ago 3
does it ever.
missmcmahon 2 years ago
this songs good. not her best song but good. i like imogen (u know wat i mean by like)
th3wat3rnat1on123 2 years ago
maybe they really meant "chills". don't correct people on your interpretation of a word.
bluelikejazz87 2 years ago 6
thanks! lol
blitzac2005 2 years ago
her music gives me chills. good stuff.
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you mean goose bumps... i think chills are a bad thing xD
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I love this song. :D
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Is it me or this songs savours strongly of Apple's iLife Garange Band? I have nothing against it, just a thought.
Yeaahright 2 years ago
Her music belongs in a film soundtrack, preferably moody experimental asian (Japanese or Korean) cinema.
Yeaahright 2 years ago
Luurverrllyy.
curlygoldilocks 2 years ago
Shivers smile shivers smile XD! I love this song
HaloChick3000 2 years ago
i heard this song for the first time yesterday and ive heard to about 100 times since then.... i cant stop listening!
30h3isawesome 2 years ago 3
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HaloChick3000 2 years ago 2
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gaetanproductions 2 years ago
Imogen Heap always finds a way to pull at my heart strings. She has such a gift with words, and there are always so much meaning behind her songs. She's brilliant.
CamieraRoad1 2 years ago 5
I lvoe this song, but I'm curious; is this about global warming?
Black canvas, revolove within, fragile earthware cracks in the tempurature.
Not the whole song, but these aprts seem to be. But that's probably just me.
IAmWaverly 2 years ago
Ohh, and also,,
I have an overactive imgaiantion, and I imagine an animation to most of my music. I always imagine a lot of nature, moutains, valleys, and rivers with this. It's always cool, and it rains. It's bizzarre. If I imagine a character, they travel. I love my Canvas imginationings. This music makes for great animation xD
IAmWaverly 2 years ago
@IAmWaverly Same here. My mind just takes me places, a lot like you described. Her songs inspire a lot of my art, I would love to animate something to one of her songs someday :]
This song's my new favorite of hers. It's so haunting and peaceful.
Saubey 2 years ago 3
Earthware and cracks in the temperature refer to ceramics, not geology. Earthware is another name for ceramic goods, and often, if put in the kiln (furnace) poorly or not made well, the ceramic can crack or even break when being baked. They're basically both artistic metaphors. What they're about, though, is more difficult to say. The rest of the song doesn't seem to fit with global warming... anyway, her songs tend to be more personal than that, if that's anything to go by. Who knows but her?
SilverAlchemist 2 years ago
SilverAlchemist: Your statement is very much explanatory, and, well, not wrong. However, if by the global warming, you meant someone else mentioned, I don't see much. I get she's talking about something she struggles to keep together, however, this can in fact interpret something referring to her personal life itself, maybe it's a romantic story, or suicide, depression, etc. Or, when referring to cracks, the withering of earth,when you want to think about Earth issues, I guess. Nice point though
HaloChick3000 2 years ago
Yes, by global warming, I was referring to something IAmWaverly said above. I don't think the song really has to do with that at all. I read somewhere that Imogen said most of her songs come from personal experience involving family, friends, or boyfriends. I'm pretty sure this one is similar. What the exact topic is, however, is much more of a mystery. Suicide and depression is an interesting correlation, though - I hadn't thought of that one.
SilverAlchemist 2 years ago
Georgous, georgous, georgous!!
Srahjayne 2 years ago 5
I love it
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oh, headlock is a great song. <3
amandarox697 2 years ago 5
such a beautiful song
exoticfreedom 2 years ago 2
such a unique voice! im a drum & bass lover myself.. but imogen keeps me intact with this sort of music
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kragle2008 2 years ago
the answer to your question is that this is pure beauty in form of music.
FantasyDessi 2 years ago 3
no i was going ??? bcause someone said they said he got into this from drum n bass.... the high contrast remix, and yes :-) imogen heap put so much energy and emotion passion and everything into a single song and ussally based on a true story i love them :-)
kragle2008 2 years ago
hahaha, oh sorry then ! and yeah I totaly agree... everything she does is unique <3
FantasyDessi 2 years ago
Yeh I listen to Heavy Metal mainly! But sometimes its nice just to calm your music down! : )
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CheyanneSky 2 years ago
I love to hear how Imogen Heap grows as an artist. Simply beautiful.
TheOakWizard 2 years ago 27
I could listen to this while driving in country road with trees and greenery while the suns is going down!! and the windows cracked
MeandMySockPuppet 2 years ago 7
she never stops surprising me... all of her songs are so original, so different, special, REAL... I've been listening to her for two years now and she's my angel of music. There's just no one like her! Imogen, you're my inspiration and roul model, you're music is my life<3
FantasyDessi 2 years ago 5
She never seems to stop impressing and giving a new feeling like you've just discovered her music again, I like that.
blinddoctorwho 2 years ago 3
If I was to ever to take ectasy again think I would listen to this album all threw the roll. Such a amazing album it almost puts your mind in another world.
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ohhhh wow another generation of stoner rock
antiedman 2 years ago
Stoner rock? How? This is alternative.
justicarphaeton 2 years ago 4
Been waiting so long for this to be out YAY!
ElliHasHorns 2 years ago
Love it! Love her! Tidal and FTH are my other 2 faves on this release, but all good. For those new to her (miniFriis et al.) check out Speak for Yourself as well- also a wonderful CD (her previous), as is her work with G.S. on Frou Frou (Details)- more most excellent work! You can find a lot of it here too, but great to have the CDs in the car stereo as well, and she greatly deserves our support in buying her work, IMHO. Thanks Immi!
jruona 2 years ago
Hauntingly beautiful. Check out the full video on her myspace page and the url on mikeklassen's more info and Subscribe box.
metaspherz 2 years ago 2
you cant hear the deep bass in the song until its blasting from your bedroom's speakers.
LIVE2LUV2LIVE 2 years ago
wow. why haven't i heard of imogen before now?!??!? she amazing !!!!!! o:
miniFriis 2 years ago 6
Check out Hide and Seek and Let Go, they're classics.
MoPictures 2 years ago 5
and THE WALK
MeandMySockPuppet 2 years ago 8
If I had to describe this song in one word it would be:
Yes
silentlysinking 2 years ago 3
Imogen Heap = Brilliance
treos85 2 years ago 4
it hasent even came out world-wide and its my fav song!
LIVE2LUV2LIVE 2 years ago 5
I love listening to songs like this while drawing a picture.
QueenOfClocks 2 years ago 3
me too the music inspires my drawing ^.^
thynameismrbob 2 years ago 5
sounds so beautiful, no words can match.
cherubnimster 2 years ago 3
no words can describe this song,im even crying right now!
zombieslayer411 2 years ago 2
Praise Imogen Heap,
her voice is so amazing,
& theres simply no other like her.
ErcaSaurfkinRawr 2 years ago 6
i know! she's a true talent
haisenpahalle 2 years ago 3
this song relaxes me...
bboard2012 2 years ago
beautiful. no other words... can't wait to buy the album. immi is a legend.
Cazzerpot 2 years ago 4
Judging by this track and the other clips..this well might be her very best...so beautiful!
PositiveLastAction 2 years ago
man, its been soo long since ive heard her voice in something new, i love it stilll.
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HyperCat15 2 years ago
ahhh this song is A-mazing! love the intro ... .so atmospheric... i didnt think she could beat her old tuff but damn! She has!
kingjules13th 2 years ago
this song sounds like it's leaning more towards 'cant take it in' , i love the feel to it :)
bebobaby1996 2 years ago
What a gorgeous song. Maaan, I love Immi.
thexfloatingxpork 2 years ago 4
Love it, really good
Joshlovett17 2 years ago
I really enjoy everything about this song. Extremely well composed and absolutely beautiful!
esbaritenor 2 years ago 5
i'm so excited for August 25th!
first day of high school +
Imogen Heap's new album, Ellipse(!!!!) +
Ingrid Michaelson's new album, Everybody
I'm definitely most excited for Ellipse, though. :D
HFLAbob 2 years ago 5
First day of college for me. :)
RoseMirror 2 years ago
God.. high school it could be best days of your life or waste days of your life.. for me it was like a sweet dream
paalamih 2 years ago 3
The song tis great, but i saw the video and i dont like it.
mariomb4 2 years ago 2
i agree, the video was a bit of a dissapiontment but the song makes up for it. its briliant!
kingjules13th 2 years ago 2
haha i just thought, it would be really great if at the very end, the artist turned around and went
"oh FUCK!! I forgot the paint!"
Heartless216 2 years ago 8
LOL.... I agree with the part that i wish they would have atleast showed Imogens face at the end, she's such ba lovely person ;)
YooToobgurl86 2 years ago
it's not her in the video and even if she should have shown her face at the end, I don't think she would have had time to be part of the video in the artic cycle (or wherever this video has been shot). I guess it's a shame !
madolian 2 years ago
im in looooooove... i knew she wouldnt disapoint with the new album ;)
YooToobgurl86 2 years ago 2
WOW simply amazing
Lionspride91 2 years ago
This is too good! So incredibly well arranged and beautiful
Hyeto 2 years ago 2
Love her voice, love her music. She is so great =)
eyeheartcookies 2 years ago
this is incredibly well-thought-out music.
man it's good!
accentricities 2 years ago
beautiful, haunting and worthy of the greats
mrsamwise 2 years ago
I have 3 albums from my favorite artists coming out soon that i can't wait for!
August 18th: Mute Math, Armistice
August 25th: Imogen Heap, Ellipse
October ?: Switchfoot, Hello Hurricane
I actually don't know which one im more excited about....
Heartless216 2 years ago
OMG im in the exact same boat as you!! same artists and everything, how strange.
afpickren 2 years ago
Not liking First Train Home so much but I'm loving this one! Can't wait for Wait It Out :D
freakyfro99 2 years ago
This song is beautiful. She never fails to amaze me with the music she makes. LOVE Imogen Heap!
PiercedxXxCrystal 2 years ago
love love this
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CarylCake 2 years ago
i don't quite get the clip but amazing song. a new classical edge to it
zingersh 2 years ago
Imogen has a divine voice, and her music is amazing, this song is specific is fantastic.
Can't wait for the new album! ;)
devilishpersian 2 years ago
addictive
citizenoftheplanet 2 years ago
it's a little slow but it's good
passkay 2 years ago
Oh God.. she's lovely.. Simply lovely.
magicalmobi 2 years ago
I can NOT stop listening to this song! And yes you are right...her fans can get a bit obsessive about her genius. We can't help it, she's amazing!
metvan 2 years ago
amazing song.
LCHime 2 years ago
Is it just me or are all Imogen fans obsessed to the point of ridicule with her music. I don't think I've ever met someone who just kinda liked her...
deadeaded 2 years ago 3
Sadly, you either love her or hate her... but I'm one of the ones who loooooveee her. (:
XshattereddreeamsX 2 years ago 2
this song at first I listened to it and I didn't like it but as I listened to it more and more I liked it I really didn't care for the video I maybe just don't understand it
it was the same with first train home I wasn't sure if I liked it or not but I love them =]
passkay 2 years ago
I don't think it's all that sad. I can't imagine being mildly interested in her music. She's a wonderful addiction. : )
deadeaded 2 years ago 2
you can't just kinda like her it's not rihanna or lady gaga or whatever pop tart we can hear today she's pure genius and unique i agree with you we're all obsessed by her :D
laneangeln08 2 years ago 7
afraid you're right !!! lol
only discovered (well , rediscovered) her a few weeks ago and already i've watched every single one of her video blogs and the only music i've listened to for weeks has been her and frou frou !!
xpinkdrummerx 2 years ago 3
i was like... OH MY GOSH!
allymcbealsfan 2 years ago
I love this song. I've been looking forward to it most out of all of the new album tracks!!!
And it totally exceeded my expectations. <3
Purdy123abc 2 years ago
very unique music...Undeniably Creative...
Gifted woman....Heap deserves a number 1 hit single and album! :D
can't wait for the rest of the magical "Ellipse"!
:)
Kaskade2009 2 years ago
Love it..
graypaint 2 years ago
Thanks for putting this up. I can't get the msn site to maintain streaming so I'm thrilled to get to hear the song here.
ashleycoop 2 years ago
Amazing song, can't wait for the album to come out!
I'm a big fan of Imogen's and really like her old stuff, but this new track is something else! :)
triprotic 2 years ago
This has become my favorite Imogen song the instant I heard it. Bumped up on my list. FANTASTIC! <3
Mackerachi 2 years ago
She ceases to amaze. She is the definition of GENIOUS! I love Imogen Heap. I love Canvas... I can't wait til August 25th. I'm so excited.
LeeFlowers92 2 years ago
Amazing song! Beautiful instrumentation and chilling vocals... Thanks Immi! Can't stop listening to it!
Pantilomion 2 years ago
Im new to Imogen, and this song just took my breath away.
shortpotato26 2 years ago
this is a very brilliant song. I wonder if Zoe Keating plays the instrumental...
pizzamiamia 2 years ago
it's not zoe keating, sadly. another wonderful cellist plays the instrumental, whose name, i believe, is ian burdge
redhandedbiscuittin 2 years ago 3
Oh no... the release of first train home disabled me for long enough. Now along comes another song that I will have to listen to a couple hundred times.... I'm not going to get anything done for a week... oh well : )
deadeaded 2 years ago
Love the minimalist and eastern influences. Love the time signature and the vocals rhythm. The guitar is phenomanal and the piano cuts through like the ice in the video. Canvas, A-Ha and Bad Body Double are the 3 I was looking forward to just from the 12-second snippets and such, and I'm so happy Canvas worked out so well. The video is a masterpiece too. How amazing would this be to see on MTV and VH1 every day?
aquaticstone 2 years ago
this. this right here is gold. and it makes me cry of the beautiful sound she makes with her fingertips against the piano keyes
Samuraii17 2 years ago
I love Imogen Heap with all of my heart. I've just listened to this song for the first time, and immediately made an account just to comment this song! The video for it is just amazing. Her, as well. I am a huge fan, and probably one of the bigger ones (:
SarahStitch 2 years ago
yes, she is an audio goddess.
archuletarox321 2 years ago
AH - Sorry I thought I was being mysterious!!!
mikeklassen 2 years ago
glad you like it :) not being funny but... for those who haven't seen the video... this is kind of a spoiler image no?? what about a nice mystery one? :) x really really glad people are into this song. This is in my fave top 3 on the album xxx
imogenheap 2 years ago 6
if i may ask ... what are your top favorite three on the album?
redhandedbiscuittin 2 years ago 2
Tidal, FTH, and The Fire for me! All brilliant though!
GeorgeBrooks09 2 years ago
I'd say, "Tidal" (would love to hear an acoustic version of that one!), "First Train Home" (because I experienced one of the best moments of my life with that song playing, and "Half Life", since I can really relate to it. My all-time favourite's still Headlock - love all the little beeps and bells and harpy things! And its lyrics are very profound. What are yours?
Sebazzell 2 years ago 2
Listen to it on a good pair of headphones - almost a totally new song.
mikeklassen 2 years ago
all i can say is, this is gorgeous. Its so strange to finally hear the full version of this and FTH after so long of only hearing little snippets and making my own version in my head. its so different from what i'd imagined, but so much more amazing.
OrangeHat101 2 years ago
OMG!!!!!!!!! im sooo exited! this is great- roll on august 24th
banfielfer 2 years ago
I hate to say that when I first heard it, I wasnt that excited, but GOD I cant stop listening to it now! Im in love!
lolheykevin 2 years ago
This song is too amazing. I can't wait for the rest of the album.
blahkyle 2 years ago