Sanda vs Muay Thai: Lin Jianshen vs Pajunsuk Part 1

[ILike2DrinkAlot]

LOL look at all these Chinese hating Muay Thai nuthuggers. I hate to break it to you but takedowns are very much part of a fight and has proven to be effective. It's not Sanda's fault that MT fighters have never trained to defend a takedown. Even if you allow the MT plum, a good Sanda fighter would simply scoop your leg from under you and slam you on your ass. You see this in modern day MMA, a fighter scoring takedowns usually wins.

[MechPhantom]

@ILike2DrinkAlot but in a real fight throws are never effective only drain ur stamina and makes an easy target to the person throwing. So yea in a real fight we know who will in MT vs sanda

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom you probably never been in a fight before. Falling to concrete hurts, getting tossed onto concrete hurts more. it's pretty lethal really. Judo guys will toss you on your head! : )

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai but some ppl i know ,ihve seen, the moment they drop on the floor, even on their head first they pop back up straight away while some stay down etc. Nothing is guaranteed man no doubt. All techniques does not necessarily work . Ihv seen tones of street fights from where im from and hell most kinda end up on the group. So yea i prefer elbows anyday , due to the fact that it requires less energy while still damaging the person at the same time. coz throws makes u gas out super fast

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom you keep saying using your elbows. ykno how hard it is to land an elbow. are you familiar with striking ranges. you want to throw an elbow... which requires you to get really close to the guy... which is what a guy that can throw you wants. i dont understand what your saying. your full of shit. you never fought before. you dont know what its like. you talk out of your ass "ive seen" stfu. IVE BEEN in..

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai and that will cause you your win , if not get the person killed. In addition to that , what if your oponent is a bigger much fatter guy than you? i bet the guy wouldnt be able to carry his whole mass and dump him to the ground rite? while an elbow would cut him open etc. So yea elbows anyday man, coz it works !peace

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom your so stupid "throws take alot of stamina" you play tooo much ufc bro. a properly executed hip throw, takes less energy to throw than a kick does. you don't know shit. so stfu. please use your elbows with out a plan to get to range where you can throw elbows. e.g. in the clinch (where people get thrown), or on the ground (after someone gets thrown). elbows this elbows that, group a pair and actually fight ya turd. I LOVE elbows and i know how un-viable of a strike it is sometimes.

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai and ur etarded :D thx for noticing that though , now we are even. Of course it takes alot of energy tard face, u need to fucking thake the asshole up and throw him down, man, try carrying a 200lbs weight 10 times non-stop and tell me thats doesnt use stamina. Damn ppl these days are soo stupid, let me guess ur american? no wonder. Look at those sanda techniques where u literally go to a double takedown and form there u ttake him up at your shoulders and throw him over. Theres 1 fight

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai in which is called " wei shoulei vs andy souwer" where the sanda guy (china) used up too much energy by keep throwing the other guy till he end up using too much energy which cost him the match, on the last part. I dont know bout you but i have to say judo uses techniques which like you said using the hip etc, but really sanda youll notice otherwise. Other than that what if your opponent wieghs 600lbs on the street and you only about 100lbs+" tell me how the hell are you gonna throw

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai in which is called " wei shoulei vs andy souwer" where the sanda guy (china) used up too much energy by keep throwing the other guy till he end up using too much energy which cost him the match, on the last part. I dont know bout you but i have to say judo uses techniques which like you said using the hip etc, but really sanda youll notice otherwise. Other than that what if your opponent wieghs 600lbs on the street and you only about 100lbs+" tell me how the hell are you gonna throw

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai that fat fuck in a REAL fight, i doubt you can why? coz judo, sanda etc fights in rules and under different weigh classes, so please do your self a favour and dont fucking reply back or i will fucking block ur stupid ass on youtube and i dont have to see you anymore. If you dont know anything pls dont try to pretend that you know, you know nothing about fighting. Come to asia and well show you fighting

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom LOL U MAD BRO?! HAHAHA YOUR SUCHA POSER ethug forreal play more ufc please.

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom everything you say, just points out to the fact that you've never been in a fight. I talk with experience. Bro, keep dreaming. One day youll actually grow the balls to fight. dont worry

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai keep dreaming that you speak from experience you sound like so guy that wanna fight but doenst have the chance too. see you man good luck thoguh, thx for the reply

[vincejai]

@MechPhantom oh wow, nice... manifesting my message to you. and trying to make it your own. I guess not only do you not know how to fight, but your uneducated also? Damn homie, hope everything works out for you. LOL numbnut.

[MechPhantom]

@vincejai shut up dont message me anymore man.

[MrPhon1984]

@ILike2DrinkAlot u ever see malaipet mauythai fighter elbow a guy who try to take him down and he got dq because it was illegal he elbow him on the back of the head if it was a street fight muaythai will do the ilegal and elbow u on your head and lets see what a sanda guy can do about it and muaythai have throws its just boring so they dont do it

[vincejai]

@ILike2DrinkAlot a properly executed clinch can work easily be transitioned into a sprawl, as well as provide a good base, which is the essense of good take-down defence. so i dont know about the whole scooping the leg thing. on another note.

Some of us come to watch fights, not people "scoring takedowns" to "usually win". Some of us watch because we respect men who are willing to fight. Not people just fighting to win.. ykno?

[PuertoRicanAsian]

Guys, the ref is Thai.

[elmaazaw]

@SinclairCeltics1990 san shou is superior to muay thai............

[MrPhon1984]

when the chinese got the thai in the clinch the chinese pathetic ref doesnt break it up and wait for the chinese to strike but when the thai reverse it and have the chinese in a clinch the ref break it up real fast the thais didnt even get a knee in

[MrMuaythai84]

2:45 stupid chink kept hiting pajunsuk after the ref said break. when pajunsuk hit back the chink got all mad and hit pajunsuk some more. no sportmanship

[nakmarcos]

Isso aí é Kung FU !!!! quando um chinês entra nun ringue e luta essa mistura de boxe, muay thai , wrestling etc ele está confirmando que o kung fu mesmo é uma coisa que não serve pra nada ! isso aí não é kung fu nem aqui nem em lugar nenhum !!! vamos copiar !!!!

[aa3gunner]

yeah the chinese are bias

[malaysiajohan]

Great fight.

Would like to see Pajunsuk vs Bao Li Gao or Liu Hai Long. It would be even greater

[DJFistOfCurry]

gosh, guys so much hate. Instead of arguing over which style is better or how the ref did this or that, why not appreciate both arts? I think the two are fricken awesome and the fighters are tough.

It doesn't matter what style you do, if it works for yah, its legit. There's no Ultimate Style or w/e, thats BS.

[Born2Fight4Life]

i do muay thai, fan of kyokushin but damn... sanda... i just fell in love with it

[maurellose]

the referee stop the fight when pajunsuk knee his opponent

[yimmiytube]

we don't stand like kungfu ,why ?? you know the answer but how to win against that......,lets put throwing in there for 1-2 points so no one could beat us ,unless we got knockout.we hate it when we hear that kongfu last only 12-20 seconds from discovery channel.

[yimmiytube]

Sanda is a wrestling,see the way they wear shorts,the way they greet,they try to confuse people by take advantages of the shorts over the long pants Karate,Kongfu fighting , this is a systematic effort by government [must have a lot of money] to put something Chinese in the real world fighting circuit. Actually it more suitable to be with Judo, wrestling that kind of grappling.

[Ultra1980]

Wrong. Sanda guys fought best Muaythai fighters in Bangkok many times, incl. for King's bday. The result is the same, unfortunately. If you r a Muaythai practitioner, you'll contribute to the arts by learning what's wrong and help to improve Muaythai. More useful than denying the defeats and citing rules etc as reasons for the defeat. As for the takedowns, if yo've been in a real fight, you'll appreciate that takedown does deserve big points. And the fight in video is held in Thailand not China.

[yimmiytube]

King's birthday,when was it,??? how come i missed it ???. take down by lifting or using hips are not allowed in modern days.sanda is a wrestling with some kicks and punch.

[shortyorty]

u talk too much

[Ultra1980]

then don't read it. wtf is your point, dude?

[AmAxORuLz]

well, last muay thai vs san shou fight i've wathed was obiously held in china... this one is obviously in thailand lol!

[AmAxORuLz]

you're talking about the site of the singapourean guy? damn this guy was famous, too bad his site is dead now...

[KungFuTeaLeaf]

Soyamon is funning cunt! Quoting Dim Mak was good one! lol. I know 185 year guy in china that can take down 100 guys just by using his chi gong - or sorry that was a film lol. BTW SANDA sux sht because of unsportsman like and bias arrogant atitude of the stupid mainlainders - make other chinese look bad!

[soyamon]

what da fuck do you know dumbshit... try googling dim mak and u'll see...fuking dumbass

[KungFuTeaLeaf]

soyamon - go FUCK YOURSELF hahahaha

Dumbass, pretty sure you getting ya DIM Mak bullsht mixed up with DIM SUM. You can get that at yum cha. hahaha...

LOL fcking funny stirring up dickheads like you...

[soyamon]

why bother idiot??? are you even 12 yet??? even a 12 years old sound more matured than you you stoopid imbecile...

[KungFuTeaLeaf]

cause i can lolololol

[soyamon]

mind over matter i meant to say.

[soyamon]

Guys, i'm neither Thai or Chinese by origin,pretty much a neutral, i think the Muay Thai is abit too much for these Chinese fighters, but put a Muay Thai(with no pads or even better no rules) against a Chinese Dim Mak master or a Okinawan Karate master, the Muay Thai will stand no chance.Brute force can not beat mind over master.

[Dynared]

Dim Mak isn't real.

[XcPromise]

Neone else notice how the chinese are the only fighters who keep calling breaks for being kicked in the nuts? Thai fighters just take it...watch the sakmongkol vs jongsanan fight...thai fighters just take them and they're unintential anyways...chinese bitch wayy too much.

[sanshousux]

These competitions would more fun to watch if they made it more fair by allow full muay thai fulbows with no pads .

[liverpoolfan4ever]

Great match. Pajunsuk's round house kick is really spectacular!! No doubt the thai is the better fighter, but Lin really put up a good fight in a hostile ground.

[TWFdreamer]

I'm Chinese, and I do agree there is some bias in this match, or any other match, where theres minority. But the Chinese guy doesn't know how to knee, and the Thai guy was kneeing him pretty bad. Shouldn't have broken it up though. Thai guy better fighter in this one.

[Mephariel]

Lin Jianshen is not inexperienced.

[clain1984]

Very nice fight~~!! :D

sm4llp3nis: the ref is a Thai !!! pls dont say something prejudicial.

Sanshou6812: Yea, Pajunsuks is a more experienced fighter than Lin, also he knows both SanShou Style and MuayThaim, and that's why Lin has no way to break his defence.

[shlongery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=vbiyEQw-mnc

I guess this is Lin Jianshen's previous match where he KO opponent by takedown.

[codypantry]

hahahaha "the thai guy's syle is sanda".. man its thai vs china.. think about it..

[Yuxian09]

I love Sanda and muay thai. One must be proficient in everything to be a complete fighter. I hope there will be more of these matches. I put these videos up because I love both and they are good matches for people to enjoy.

[cph4]

Pajunsuk's style is Sanda LOL Someone should tell him!

You're hilarious..

[Yuxian09]

Pajunsuk's style is muay thai. Muay Thai actually has throws but hip throws are illegal in muay thai now. Pajunsuk also has experience applying his muay thai thru competing in sanshou in the Asian Games.

[Sishen]

Never mind, I just noticed that there's a part 2.

[Sishen]

Who won?

[RbG999]

i just stopped muay thai and going to start sanda becuz muay thai doesnt have throws and takedowns -___-" and sanda does but now i see a thai fighter tat can do throws and takedowns -___-"