@zacker95 i know, its really about reaction, more tough for me coz im only 13 but if it by chance hit my racket i could get it back, but mostly no. good for you tho, you must be good standard player ;)
@BigJohnny012 They're plenty fun to return, just don't get tired like the receiver in this video; he didn't even try to return it. He should give up college tennis with that attitude.
@FinalFan0 He didn't try? I do not know if you can tell or not, but that was a clear ace, even if he did try and it was Nadal. Wish i could get a serve like that, mine tops off at just a little over 100 (and that is if it is a flat serve).
This guy is like 750 in the world - I guess after he hit this serve he reckoned he had made it - put it up on you tube and retired to the college or country club. Zero win record playing since 11, 6'3' 160 ibs - to me a loser.
When a serve comes in that fast, I just guess which side and try to volley it back. How do those pros know where it is going? Seems like they get it right about 90% of the time.
@RK831 most pro's can tell where the ball is going by the location of the toss, and other cues that come before the ball is actually hit. any really good server can disguise thier toss, and have one uniform motion to hide their serve location.
@FrankShan777 A waste of energy in an endurance sport. He was standing on the far side. The serve had ridiculous placement. It wasn't even pure pace in the middle; it was on the line next to being a fault. 135 is fast even by pro standards. Also, the behind perspective of the camera makes it look like he has more time than real life.
@XizelSF Omg that is so scary to think about... Since we are looking from a fair amount of distance, the amount of time the guy had to return the serve is almost impossible. Khlan's serve already looks impossible through video, but imagine actually returning it.
Mac was just like a great MLB pitcher. It wasn't that the heat he brought was so big, it was his ability to move the ball around the box so well. The same is true of Fed. He is not usually brought up in great server conversations, but people who really know the game recognize how really effective his serve is for him. Mac also had the ad of being a lefty.
The top women player serves are in the 100-115 range (Serena, Venus, Stosur), about 10-15 mph slower than the average of male pros. I think most of the women on tour are hitting 90-100mph first serves. McEnroe hit his serves 100-110mph and was not a great server, but did alright in a few slams. I can't hit a 75mph serve so I am not talking from experience, just a tennis fan. I like seeing fast serves, but I also love seeing kick serves.
@rdberg1957 Mac not a great server? Mac was the ultimate serve and volleyer. Without a great serve, he wouldn't of been much of a volleyer. many of his volleys were set up by awesome placement of the serves.
Mac hit serves 100-110 on the old radar guns, guns that clocked serves considerably slower than the modern ones. Mac has hit serves in the mid 120's consistently as an old man on the senior circuit, with the same racquet and strings, due to the radar difference.
The guns were slow, hence Agassi getting beat by 110 serves from Ivan and Courier as aces, but then handling modern players serves that were 125-130 with ease. The guns took 10-15 off average, and were worse out wide
If u want measure the serve use fps method but takes time. Faster method, I use and is pretty accurate is the following. Example for this video: time(contact-bounce)=0.35secs (by stopwatch) distance=58.5fts (about), mile=0.000189fts, hour=3600secs avg speed=58.5*(0.000189*3600)/0.35=113.7mph method to calc really close to contact speed: speed=2*avg_speed/1.695 So, for this serve it calculates: speed=2*113.7/1.695=134.2mph!!!
@spanosa7 You're really going to have to be a little more thorough. How did you calculate the distance the ball traveled? Do you know the height of the server at that wingspan, including how far off the ground his feet are? How do you know *where* he made contact with the ball, and the ball's actual trajectory? These are all essential to figuring the right distance, which is fundamental in the basic speed = (distance / time) calculation. Also, you calculated the time with a *STOPWATCH?* cont..
@spanosa7 cont... At the very least you'll have to calculate the time by counting the number of frames and multiplying that by the camera's FPS. All these things WILL have an impact on your calculation so I'd say your result of 134 should really be taken with a grain of salt. It most likely isn't that fast. That said, it's still one hell of a serve and a great video anyway!
Hey dude the method I mentioned works pretty good considering that the initial serve speed is about 18% faster than the average serve speed you calculate via distance and time. This is accurate within 1-2 mph with the great donthireddy calculator.
Now, for this monster serve-ace:
A good approximation of the distance the ball travelled is about: 58.5 - 59 feet (what we see from the video pasuing it). The height of the contact point doesnt affect it that much, (cont)
if you read the information on the donthireddy site or do the the pythagorean theorem the horizontal distance we obtain is not altered by more than 0.5 foot. So the distnace is about right.
As far as it goes with time calculation, i actually did it fast with sidebar gadget stopwatch and got about 0.35sec average after many repeats lol. But I forgot that the sound is not the proper method because of the speed of sound that serve sounded "faster" than it was (because of the camera position)..
..So the speed i calculated based on the sound is a bit exaggerated! Recently I decided just for curiosity to download the video and calculate the frames exactly to get the actual time and speed of that monstrous serve. it is exactly 11 frames @ 29.97fps -> 0.37sec
@spanosa7 Thats much better! this serve looks a lot more like a 125-128mph serve than 135. Actually very few players can hit sliders like this at 135mph :)
sorry for the long reply dude :P... I had to explain to ximian that the actual time of the serve is 0.37secs and not 0.35. That change makes it "only" about 128mph :(
PS. ximian your serve is not 115mph it is closer to 120mph :P
That method (video analysis) is actually more accurate even than radar guns because of the angle and other factors causing them f.e. to read some wide serves a bit slower. Distance is quite easy to estimate fairly well in a serve like that. I can assure you the error from distance estimation does not account for more than 3mph.
So this serve is 128+-3mph. I think we should be very happy to be able to do that for free without a pro radar at all!
bradley klahn sucks, he'll get powned by NGUYEN HOANG THIEN, fucking idiot, think he plays for stanfiord so he can brag all he wants, when u think u are good there are all always others who are way better
@littletennisking really then? Bradley klahn is a "fucking idiot" who "thinks he plays for stanfiord". this statement comes from an obvious genius so everyone will definitely agree with your opinion because of your remarkable credibility
@yetwentyfive He didn't take a set of Qurrey :p The 1st set was 6-3 for Querrey and then at 1-0 the next set Klahn got hit in the balls and had to forfeit
I am 15, and at District there was a guy about 6 foot 5 (I am 5 foot 9) and had a MAJOR 1st serve, his second was only a hair slim slower. His coach said his first serve was clocked at 130-132 mph. I was having to stand about 3 feet behind the baseline to even have a chance of returning it.
Hes solid but tennis is more then a serve , what will he do facing a 135 mph serve going the other direction? But he has proved he has what it takes i'm a big fan of his hope he does well at the next level.
@deitonb1996 Yeah considering he won the NCAA's id say he is going in the right direction, maybe someday you can do the same if you stop dogging it in the 14's!
@TonLars Well at 14 I have the right to be dogging it in the 14's but one thing we have in common, I'm 14 , 6'2 , 155lbs and have already been clocked at 131 mph so sorry i hurt your feelings with my comment, btw what I have in common with Mr.Klan
@deitonb1996 dude, I was joking and saying youre a good player, lol. You didnt hurt my feelings. Youre 14 though so maybe youre just learning to read (another joke). Have you ever played Clayton? Last summer I was up a break in the 3rd against him but lost
D1 College players hit a shitload of 130+ bombs. The pros on the tour don't do that because they have higher serve percentages, and they worked on other things more. This video here proves that anyone that disagrees with me is a total dumbshit.
@ETDevin You dont need to tell me, I know and have played plenty of these level players, including this guy's teammate Alex Clayton. The point the poster made is that there arent "tons" of guys serving in the 130's, and most pros dont average nearly that, and he is correct.
wait..can i see the serve again
sukaschultz 2 weeks ago
nahh.. i can face that serve.. :)
zacker95 3 months ago
@zacker95 same, but at the same time it was down the line so you couldn't have faced that one :D
JARheadmix 3 months ago
@JARheadmix sometimes only.. but I still can face that
zacker95 2 months ago
@zacker95 i know, its really about reaction, more tough for me coz im only 13 but if it by chance hit my racket i could get it back, but mostly no. good for you tho, you must be good standard player ;)
JARheadmix 2 months ago
@JARheadmix not that kind of player.. plus I'm 16 only :D
zacker95 2 months ago
I love Bozoljac (The guy hitting the serve)
mistersexytime 3 months ago
weyy
laplouis 3 months ago
...that is not 135....its slower than my serves, but im not sure how fast i serve
khesim 4 months ago
@khesim let me answer that for you. you're serve is approximately >135mph
23NaLi 3 months ago
His slow motion is about as fast as mine...
ethongmurr 4 months ago 4
the guy responding is an idiot, i would have split stepped and move left when he was tossing the ball
Giannantonio83 5 months ago
hey can you guys check out my serve and give me any tips or advice?
bigtomfrost 5 months ago
This looks like no fun to return :/
BigJohnny012 5 months ago
@BigJohnny012 They're plenty fun to return, just don't get tired like the receiver in this video; he didn't even try to return it. He should give up college tennis with that attitude.
FinalFan0 4 months ago
@FinalFan0 He didn't try? I do not know if you can tell or not, but that was a clear ace, even if he did try and it was Nadal. Wish i could get a serve like that, mine tops off at just a little over 100 (and that is if it is a flat serve).
kelman221 4 months ago
@FinalFan0 his split step was late. still his fault. but it wasnt compltetly an effort problem.
xmmxsheba 4 months ago
That slow motion is faster than my serve
MrDootz1 5 months ago
that sounds like a cannon!
bigtomfrost 6 months ago
Yeeaaahhhh Bradley Klahn
Fyuesiy 6 months ago
Nice serve, i think mine are better though, checj it out!
IdrottsGurun1979 6 months ago
u need to stand on the baseline with ur camera if u want it look like I am seeing it in person. Otherwise it looks like it's a TV angle.
shawndw1000 6 months ago
This guy is like 750 in the world - I guess after he hit this serve he reckoned he had made it - put it up on you tube and retired to the college or country club. Zero win record playing since 11, 6'3' 160 ibs - to me a loser.
vohshkab 7 months ago
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vohshkab 7 months ago
gilles muller?
chamotreuli 7 months ago
When a serve comes in that fast, I just guess which side and try to volley it back. How do those pros know where it is going? Seems like they get it right about 90% of the time.
RK831 7 months ago
@RK831 most pro's can tell where the ball is going by the location of the toss, and other cues that come before the ball is actually hit. any really good server can disguise thier toss, and have one uniform motion to hide their serve location.
xmmxsheba 7 months ago
Who the fuck is going "weeeee" after the serve? Its not a fucking roller coaster ride bro!
enigma81581 7 months ago
This is not facing a tennis serve. The courts were designed for wooden bats
mccluskey 7 months ago
omg... I can't imagine facing roddick's 155 m/h serve... 20 m/h faster than this
futuramaishot 9 months ago
doesn't matter how fast he serves it, that kinda placement is gonna get you an ace everytime
noobray143 9 months ago 8
@noobray143 haha yeah I got an ace with screw-up serve were I hit the ball with the rim, i was playing a high school #2 singles.
squiddie96 1 week ago
my top serve is 92mph but im pretty sure i can do better :D
Pyroninja85 10 months ago
The receiver should have jumped for it. he was just standing there!!!!!!
FrankShan777 10 months ago
@FrankShan777 A waste of energy in an endurance sport. He was standing on the far side. The serve had ridiculous placement. It wasn't even pure pace in the middle; it was on the line next to being a fault. 135 is fast even by pro standards. Also, the behind perspective of the camera makes it look like he has more time than real life.
XizelSF 10 months ago
@XizelSF Omg that is so scary to think about... Since we are looking from a fair amount of distance, the amount of time the guy had to return the serve is almost impossible. Khlan's serve already looks impossible through video, but imagine actually returning it.
MrTennisMenace 9 months ago
that's barely 120, as spanosa shows.
cys12141 10 months ago
i don't mean to be a piss-ant...but that looks more like a 134
whatubeaccount1 10 months ago
@whatubeaccount1
yeah i agree. or at least 1/2 an mph less than 135.
fungamesss 9 months ago
That doesn't look 135mph at all. I saw him play at UCLA, he doesn't have a huge serve even for college. Not saying it sucks.
ChaunceyDos 11 months ago
Slow motion looks like the normal speed lol geezus
TitaniumProAce 1 year ago
Thanks for the video. People saying it was out either don't know the rules of tennis or have terrible eye sight (particularly under the slow motion).
u2546149 1 year ago
Mac was just like a great MLB pitcher. It wasn't that the heat he brought was so big, it was his ability to move the ball around the box so well. The same is true of Fed. He is not usually brought up in great server conversations, but people who really know the game recognize how really effective his serve is for him. Mac also had the ad of being a lefty.
pr10s 1 year ago
The top women player serves are in the 100-115 range (Serena, Venus, Stosur), about 10-15 mph slower than the average of male pros. I think most of the women on tour are hitting 90-100mph first serves. McEnroe hit his serves 100-110mph and was not a great server, but did alright in a few slams. I can't hit a 75mph serve so I am not talking from experience, just a tennis fan. I like seeing fast serves, but I also love seeing kick serves.
rdberg1957 1 year ago
@rdberg1957 Mac not a great server? Mac was the ultimate serve and volleyer. Without a great serve, he wouldn't of been much of a volleyer. many of his volleys were set up by awesome placement of the serves.
golfmaniac007 1 year ago
@rdberg1957
Mac hit serves 100-110 on the old radar guns, guns that clocked serves considerably slower than the modern ones. Mac has hit serves in the mid 120's consistently as an old man on the senior circuit, with the same racquet and strings, due to the radar difference.
The guns were slow, hence Agassi getting beat by 110 serves from Ivan and Courier as aces, but then handling modern players serves that were 125-130 with ease. The guns took 10-15 off average, and were worse out wide
SerUresto 11 months ago
OUT!!!!!! ............that was out
golfmaniac007 1 year ago
@golfmaniac007 Well in.
rounick 1 year ago
@golfmaniac007 lol no way that was on the inside of the line ,
KN10SKILLED 1 year ago
So stop many of you not saying that's not a 135mph serve. It obviously is exact that!
If you want check my crappy video with my calculated speeds from my profile. :P
spanosa7 1 year ago
spanosa7 1 year ago 47
@spanosa7 I hate you.
Edu2503 1 year ago
@Edu2503
L0L. So you did the above calculations and your serve measured quite below what you expected i guess? :P
spanosa7 1 year ago
@spanosa7 You're really going to have to be a little more thorough. How did you calculate the distance the ball traveled? Do you know the height of the server at that wingspan, including how far off the ground his feet are? How do you know *where* he made contact with the ball, and the ball's actual trajectory? These are all essential to figuring the right distance, which is fundamental in the basic speed = (distance / time) calculation. Also, you calculated the time with a *STOPWATCH?* cont..
ximian153 6 months ago
@spanosa7 cont... At the very least you'll have to calculate the time by counting the number of frames and multiplying that by the camera's FPS. All these things WILL have an impact on your calculation so I'd say your result of 134 should really be taken with a grain of salt. It most likely isn't that fast. That said, it's still one hell of a serve and a great video anyway!
ximian153 6 months ago
@ximian153
Hey dude the method I mentioned works pretty good considering that the initial serve speed is about 18% faster than the average serve speed you calculate via distance and time. This is accurate within 1-2 mph with the great donthireddy calculator.
Now, for this monster serve-ace:
A good approximation of the distance the ball travelled is about: 58.5 - 59 feet (what we see from the video pasuing it). The height of the contact point doesnt affect it that much, (cont)
spanosa7 6 months ago
if you read the information on the donthireddy site or do the the pythagorean theorem the horizontal distance we obtain is not altered by more than 0.5 foot. So the distnace is about right.
As far as it goes with time calculation, i actually did it fast with sidebar gadget stopwatch and got about 0.35sec average after many repeats lol. But I forgot that the sound is not the proper method because of the speed of sound that serve sounded "faster" than it was (because of the camera position)..
spanosa7 6 months ago
..So the speed i calculated based on the sound is a bit exaggerated! Recently I decided just for curiosity to download the video and calculate the frames exactly to get the actual time and speed of that monstrous serve. it is exactly 11 frames @ 29.97fps -> 0.37sec
(using 59 feet distance)
dorithey calc: 128.9mph
my method now: avg_speed * 1.18 = 59*(0.000189*3600)/0.37 * 1.18 = 128mph
PS: 58.5 just drops 1mph
So that's what this serve is finally 1-2 mph accuracy!!!
BTW, great serves!
spanosa7 6 months ago
@spanosa7 Thats much better! this serve looks a lot more like a 125-128mph serve than 135. Actually very few players can hit sliders like this at 135mph :)
VinsUplifting 1 month ago
@VinsUplifting
yes it actually was in the 128mph range. I was very enthusiast the first time i posted and didn't got the exact measurement for time. :P
spanosa7 1 month ago
@spanosa7 what the................
tennisproderek 6 months ago
@tennisproderek
sorry for the long reply dude :P... I had to explain to ximian that the actual time of the serve is 0.37secs and not 0.35. That change makes it "only" about 128mph :(
PS. ximian your serve is not 115mph it is closer to 120mph :P
spanosa7 6 months ago
@spanosa7 I done it the same way!
AkMachx 4 months ago
@AkMachx
;)
spanosa7 4 months ago
@spanosa7 holy shit :|
TheDrunkGuineaPig1 2 months ago
@spanosa7 ur too cool.
thevsters9 2 months ago
@thevsters9 @TheDrunkGuineaPig1
Thanks. i know it was kinda nerd way but i decided to post it because it may help many people who want to calculate their own serves... :D
spanosa7 2 months ago
@spanosa7 but you estimate when the ball and where the ball bounces ... not accurate
thegarbageman21 3 weeks ago
@thegarbageman21
That method (video analysis) is actually more accurate even than radar guns because of the angle and other factors causing them f.e. to read some wide serves a bit slower. Distance is quite easy to estimate fairly well in a serve like that. I can assure you the error from distance estimation does not account for more than 3mph.
So this serve is 128+-3mph. I think we should be very happy to be able to do that for free without a pro radar at all!
spanosa7 2 weeks ago
bradley klahn sucks, he'll get powned by NGUYEN HOANG THIEN, fucking idiot, think he plays for stanfiord so he can brag all he wants, when u think u are good there are all always others who are way better
littletennisking 1 year ago
@littletennisking really then? Bradley klahn is a "fucking idiot" who "thinks he plays for stanfiord". this statement comes from an obvious genius so everyone will definitely agree with your opinion because of your remarkable credibility
hoymanman 1 year ago
@littletennisking Dude...he played in the Us open and took a set off sam querrey <.<
yetwentyfive 1 year ago
@yetwentyfive He didn't take a set of Qurrey :p The 1st set was 6-3 for Querrey and then at 1-0 the next set Klahn got hit in the balls and had to forfeit
Moddick2 1 year ago
@Moddick2 he didn't retire. Sam won 6-3, 4-6, 7-5, 6-4.
hoymanman 1 year ago
@hoymanman Oh my bad. I saw a video that made it look like he retired.
Moddick2 1 year ago
@Moddick2 i forgive you
hoymanman 1 year ago
Yea, up the T serves are always highest, and 135 mph serve isn't that uncommon.
smithcm14 1 year ago
even slow motion looks fast. L0L
2good4utyra 1 year ago 25
@2good4utyra dude, most serves that people produce in my tennis and swim club look slower than the slow motion of this vid
natbrain 5 months ago
to anyone not believing it's 135.... try recording a high level college player, watch him live, and then watch him on camera.
liud128 1 year ago
That's not 130 I've hit with guy who can top 100 and I'm sure it's well over a buck but 130 no way. Anyway he would have won that point at 90.
KingCast65 1 year ago
135 mph? maybe kmh but never mph lol noob
warboss007 1 year ago
@warboss007 dude Bradley Khlan just faced Sam Querry first round in US OPEN
and Brad served like 120 average
MrTennisMenace 1 year ago
@warboss007 You're dumb
smithcm14 1 year ago
i doubt roddick is hitting a 135 on the ad side down the middle cos its got slice on it. like that one. but maybe i am wrong
welshman326 1 year ago
doesnt look like 135
tennisproderek 1 year ago
I think it is in 120 mph something. It is fast but not 135.
petunia0809 1 year ago
That doesn't look 135 to me.
ChaunceyDos 1 year ago
This serve wasn´t 135. Maybe 115-120.
tlonsinkie 1 year ago
I am 15, and at District there was a guy about 6 foot 5 (I am 5 foot 9) and had a MAJOR 1st serve, his second was only a hair slim slower. His coach said his first serve was clocked at 130-132 mph. I was having to stand about 3 feet behind the baseline to even have a chance of returning it.
MirrorMMO 1 year ago
@MirrorMMO 3 feet behind the baseline? when i'm returning serves like that i'm 10 feet behind the baseline
brado32003 1 year ago
@MirrorMMO 3 feet behind the baseline? when i'm returning serves like that i'm 10 feet behind the baseline
brado32003 1 year ago
Hes solid but tennis is more then a serve , what will he do facing a 135 mph serve going the other direction? But he has proved he has what it takes i'm a big fan of his hope he does well at the next level.
deitonb1996 1 year ago
@deitonb1996 Yeah considering he won the NCAA's id say he is going in the right direction, maybe someday you can do the same if you stop dogging it in the 14's!
TonLars 1 year ago
@TonLars Well at 14 I have the right to be dogging it in the 14's but one thing we have in common, I'm 14 , 6'2 , 155lbs and have already been clocked at 131 mph so sorry i hurt your feelings with my comment, btw what I have in common with Mr.Klan
deitonb1996 1 year ago
@deitonb1996 dude, I was joking and saying youre a good player, lol. You didnt hurt my feelings. Youre 14 though so maybe youre just learning to read (another joke). Have you ever played Clayton? Last summer I was up a break in the 3rd against him but lost
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paulkielsmithdotcom 1 year ago
@strahan918
Your information is a massive fail
liud128 1 year ago
@liud128 no, its not. He is correct that average speeds are around 100-120.
TonLars 1 year ago
@TonLars
D1 College players hit a shitload of 130+ bombs. The pros on the tour don't do that because they have higher serve percentages, and they worked on other things more. This video here proves that anyone that disagrees with me is a total dumbshit.
ETDevin 1 year ago
@ETDevin You dont need to tell me, I know and have played plenty of these level players, including this guy's teammate Alex Clayton. The point the poster made is that there arent "tons" of guys serving in the 130's, and most pros dont average nearly that, and he is correct.
TonLars 1 year ago
DAMNNNNN. i didn't know college players could serve that fast.
skate4life890 1 year ago
@skate4life890 You definitely haven't been watching college tennis then. There's tons of college players that can serve 130+ and even 140+
ETDevin 1 year ago
@ETDevin your an idiot....
BulldogTennis 1 year ago
@BulldogTennis
And your massively hackneyed, 0 creativity insult proves you yourself are not an idiot... how? And looking at your videos, your own serve sucks shit.
ETDevin 1 year ago
@ETDevin
i'm glad you comment on either my serve from 2-3 years ago, or the newer one, that is all 2nd serves....but congrats anyways.
BulldogTennis 1 year ago