the argument its so powerful i really think that way the life its this way im not a suicidal but im so tired of this too the life its cruel joke for that reason i do what i want in life but the( brotherhood) look me like i was an alien the dont realise that lifr its more about a job or money or go to the mall shit they make me sick the way i make they sick too so great movie frien you got a big A
I see this movie as Christianity Vs. Buddhism movie. Couldn't be more right to the point of what the Buddha taught. Life is meaningless, there's nothing to hold on to, people either ignorant or ignore the reality of life and instead choose the illusion to comfort themselves. Aging, illness and death are all we have I too pray for the "real death" one which I won't have to come back or endure eternity with people I met in life. Buddhism is about annihilation, it's not pessimism but beauty.
When the mind introduces time as thought into the equation of life versus death, it can only see what the mind can establish. The limitation of thought will create the image of an action that is within the boundaries of time. The unknown, the real, can only be perceived by a mind that is of the unknown. Creation then will come from within, and not from thought. The fullness of life is not destiny...it is life itself. The known will never perceive the unknown.
Your simply wrong, this is not a Christianity vs. Buddhism movie, the similarities to Buddhism are very superficial.
This movie isn't even really about Christianity, it is about nihilism and existentialism and the classic problem of how to answer the "problem of the absurd" with an anti-Nietzschean conclusion. Unhappy and without purpose, the professor seeks to commit suicide to release himself from pain and is confronted with the classical moral system of Christianity.
This is not how the movie ends. It ends with the Sun rising in the East. Hark! The Herald Angels sing, and keep your grade-school atheism and blasphemy in a Hello Kitty diary where it belongs
The Greeks never worshiped Zeus, they made supplications to him in exchange temporal victory or advantage. Greek religion was without any kind of meaningful eschatology. But again with the simpleton, atheist responses, wohooo!
Then why put in the "Hail Zeus" in your attempt at mockery? If you admit there is a categorical distinction between Attic religion and Christianity then there is nothing more to say. Btw the Gospels are not a fable, even if one doubts or denies the Truth yours is still an error of genre placement.
@powereddrive I pray for Zeus every day at 8:30 facing Athene, eating oatmeal. If you have a problem with my religious practices, keep it to yourself. I'm sure your Jesus won't give you your 30 virgins if you mock people on the internet.
Learn acceptance. Good day sir. May the storm be with you.
p.s.: People believing in a dude walking on water and making whiskey from water, so ignorant haha.
@powereddrive Though I know your religion and your priests have a thing for young little boys, maybe that encouraged your imagination through the internet. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not young nor gay.
I have no problem with you guys though, you can go ahead and continue fapping to the thought of me and 29 other guys if you like.
I don't have a priest dude, nor do I belong to a religion that has priests. We should talk more of what you "Know." But don't repress what you feel, this is a safe zone. ;)
@iMarklar I've made a similar Greek "mythology" joke a ton of times lol. Arguing god's existence or non-existence is futile. You're not going to get anything out of it, no matter how rationale you are. One thing religious people need to learn however is *tolerance* of atheism. The 11th commandment: Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion To Thyself.
@powereddrive The greatest arguments are often made in the form of jokes. If you paid close attention however, my tolerance statement is not made in a joking manner regardless.
@powereddrive Indeed, which is the same star that I was talking about. They were talking well into the night with day approaching. Nothing truly significant about it.
And that's the beauty of that scene. To you it's the poetic metaphor invoking god's light but for other people, who probably understand it's a metaphor for god, just see it for what it is: the sun and nothing more.
Nothing "truly" significant about it? Then why say there is anything significant about anything in the play? The director knew the connotations involved and that is why the play ends, not with a despairing Samuel L., but with the rising sun, the camera looking towards the EAST.
@powereddrive The sun is not what is important, as far as I'm concerned (hence why I don't find it it significant; this ties in with 'White's' nihilistic view on life), no matter how many times you want to keep hammering your point. All I'm saying is that to the one looking at something, it means different things. To you, it's something profound and meaningful. To me, it's just a sun rising yet again.
Excuse me, but I don't hold to the belief that all good people go to heaven and all bad go to hell, God's Word denounces Suicide , Because God, Jehovah , is God, not of the dead, but of the living, Also The professor is correct, though he probably doesn't know it, when you die, you die, As Ecclesiastes says in Chapter 9:5-6, 9 shows that the living are concience that they will die, But as for the dead, They're concience of nothing at all.... But there is more...
@HunterR909 Did you even watch the movie? I am 100% sure that you being a 'devout christian' are the same as a prison convert trying his hardest to make right with the world, not trying to convert everyone they see. The view of the professor and people like him where a life beyond death is not what they want... there is no changing that. They don't want your biblical fiction. They want pure fact, consistency, proof, absolutes. They want death to be death, meaning the end, not renewal
All of you are forgetting that this was a MOVIE, a piece of fiction, Samuel Jacksons Portrayal of a so-called " Devout " christian is flawed, First of all, any " True " Christian would have never even considered doing what his character did, If I, had just saved his life, I would ask why, and then after that speach that Tommy Lee at the end, I would ask.
" Why do you think that is, Professor, Why do you think man has that eventuality? ", and then I would show him Romans 5:12 Then ask if he->
I disagree with you for not including the last part of the play. Where Samuel L. Jackson's character bemoans the fact that he could not come up with the words to convince the Professor not to kill himself. It was a great and fitting ending to the play.
@MrCockmeatsandwich69 you are totally correct in declaring that i have no original thoughts in my head concerning this subject, but how could i if i am not the originator. i am the created and i worship the creator the Father through Jesus Christ.
"The shadow of the axe hangs over every joy, every road ends in death. Every friendship, every love. Torment, loss, betrayal, pain, suffering, age and dignity. Hideous lingering illness and all of it with a single conclusion. For you, everyone and everything you've ever chosen to care for" - White.
believe that if you want to but one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and when that day comes i guarente you that tommy lee jones or people like his character will be in that line
"Evolution cannot avoid bringing intelligent life ultimately to an awareness of one thing, and one thing above all else. And that one thing is futility."
That's powerful. This play is the fucking nihilistic manifesto. Bravo McCarthy, bravo.
Loosing fear of death is the most important thing a human can do. To accept the notion of suicide, possibly contemplate it seriously, but never do it. You take that feeling and you hold it close inside. Knowing that this world is yours and you can do whatever you please with it. Smirk in the face of the of the mindless self involved herd and walk the world untethered. You are your own God.
@xrockthe40ozx Yes. We always were our own god. I was never religious but when I was young I had an experience like how people often describe a de-conversion. I seriously considered whether there was any meaning to life for the first time. I must have deep down assumed that there was (or at least that we couldn't say that there wasn't) because when I concluded that there couldn't possibly be a meaning it blew my mind and I felt like I was finally awake and the world was mine.
@wokinstorm What dont you get? In the ending he is just saying that living is useless, and that we make up certain believes to keep ourself going. But if you are smart enough, and can see through all the bullshit and see life how it really is, you wouldnt want to be born again.. Everything will eventually die out, which means everything ends in a disappointment. And he craves for an ending of all the disappointments and false hope he experienced before..
@wokinstorm What dont you get? In the ending he is just saying that living is useless, and that we make up certain believes to keep ourself going. But if you are smart enough, and can see through all the bullshit and see life how it really is, you wouldnt want to be born again.. Everything will eventually die out, which means everything ends in a disappointment. And he craves for an ending of all the disappointments and false hope he experienced before..
should have kept the part where he says "and if that pain were collective instead of merely reiterative the sheer weight of it would drag the world from the walls of the universe and send it crashing and burning down through what ever night it might yet be capable of engendering until it was not even ash!"
there were a few parts that I wanted to keep... what I decided to post were actually the parts that I probably related with the most. Not that I'm implying that what I cut out wasn't relatable, but it didn't seem to have the impact, based on syntax, that I want this clip to portray.
I love this film, thankyou............ Goodbye :) (ps not a suicide) But seriously wow! What a great compilation of scenes from an amazing performance.......Bravo :)
The entire ending scene is close to 15 minutes... I shortened it to keep just the parts I really like... which also are, what I believe, are the stronger points.
If you decide to watch this clip 100 times, typing the lines out, then please send me a copy.
the argument its so powerful i really think that way the life its this way im not a suicidal but im so tired of this too the life its cruel joke for that reason i do what i want in life but the( brotherhood) look me like i was an alien the dont realise that lifr its more about a job or money or go to the mall shit they make me sick the way i make they sick too so great movie frien you got a big A
astarot665 3 weeks ago
@astarot665 SORRY FOR THE SPEALING IM FROM ANTOTHER COUNTRY
astarot665 3 weeks ago
I see this movie as Christianity Vs. Buddhism movie. Couldn't be more right to the point of what the Buddha taught. Life is meaningless, there's nothing to hold on to, people either ignorant or ignore the reality of life and instead choose the illusion to comfort themselves. Aging, illness and death are all we have I too pray for the "real death" one which I won't have to come back or endure eternity with people I met in life. Buddhism is about annihilation, it's not pessimism but beauty.
Arahansannihilation 1 month ago
@Arahansannihilation
When the mind introduces time as thought into the equation of life versus death, it can only see what the mind can establish. The limitation of thought will create the image of an action that is within the boundaries of time. The unknown, the real, can only be perceived by a mind that is of the unknown. Creation then will come from within, and not from thought. The fullness of life is not destiny...it is life itself. The known will never perceive the unknown.
sclogse1 3 weeks ago
@Arahansannihilation
Your simply wrong, this is not a Christianity vs. Buddhism movie, the similarities to Buddhism are very superficial.
This movie isn't even really about Christianity, it is about nihilism and existentialism and the classic problem of how to answer the "problem of the absurd" with an anti-Nietzschean conclusion. Unhappy and without purpose, the professor seeks to commit suicide to release himself from pain and is confronted with the classical moral system of Christianity.
derpaprikalyoner 1 week ago 2
This is not how the movie ends. It ends with the Sun rising in the East. Hark! The Herald Angels sing, and keep your grade-school atheism and blasphemy in a Hello Kitty diary where it belongs
powereddrive 2 months ago
@powereddrive Are you worshiping a thousand-something years old fable book too? Hail Zeus!
iMarklar 2 months ago
@iMarklar
The Greeks never worshiped Zeus, they made supplications to him in exchange temporal victory or advantage. Greek religion was without any kind of meaningful eschatology. But again with the simpleton, atheist responses, wohooo!
powereddrive 2 months ago
@powereddrive I'm sorry, where exactly did I say the Greeks worshiped Zeus? Could you point that out?
iMarklar 2 months ago
@iMarklar
Then why put in the "Hail Zeus" in your attempt at mockery? If you admit there is a categorical distinction between Attic religion and Christianity then there is nothing more to say. Btw the Gospels are not a fable, even if one doubts or denies the Truth yours is still an error of genre placement.
powereddrive 2 months ago
@powereddrive I pray for Zeus every day at 8:30 facing Athene, eating oatmeal. If you have a problem with my religious practices, keep it to yourself. I'm sure your Jesus won't give you your 30 virgins if you mock people on the internet.
Learn acceptance. Good day sir. May the storm be with you.
p.s.: People believing in a dude walking on water and making whiskey from water, so ignorant haha.
iMarklar 2 months ago
@iMarklar
30 virgins? First off, I am taken. Second, I doubt you have 29 friends.
powereddrive 2 months ago
@powereddrive Though I know your religion and your priests have a thing for young little boys, maybe that encouraged your imagination through the internet. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not young nor gay.
I have no problem with you guys though, you can go ahead and continue fapping to the thought of me and 29 other guys if you like.
iMarklar 2 months ago
@iMarklar
I don't have a priest dude, nor do I belong to a religion that has priests. We should talk more of what you "Know." But don't repress what you feel, this is a safe zone. ;)
powereddrive 2 months ago
@powereddrive I just feel sorry for your illusions.
Oh wait, no, I don't.
iMarklar 1 month ago
@iMarklar
You don't?! I am beside myself with grief
powereddrive 1 month ago
@iMarklar I've made a similar Greek "mythology" joke a ton of times lol. Arguing god's existence or non-existence is futile. You're not going to get anything out of it, no matter how rationale you are. One thing religious people need to learn however is *tolerance* of atheism. The 11th commandment: Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion To Thyself.
Xizor8213 3 weeks ago
@Xizor8213
At least you admit you are making a joke not an argument.
powereddrive 1 week ago
@powereddrive The greatest arguments are often made in the form of jokes. If you paid close attention however, my tolerance statement is not made in a joking manner regardless.
Xizor8213 6 days ago
@powereddrive All I see is a regular, not particularly extraordinary but rather important star in the end. :|
BeingBadAtMaths 1 week ago
@BeingBadAtMaths
Fact: The movie ends with the rising sun
powereddrive 1 week ago
@powereddrive Indeed, which is the same star that I was talking about. They were talking well into the night with day approaching. Nothing truly significant about it.
And that's the beauty of that scene. To you it's the poetic metaphor invoking god's light but for other people, who probably understand it's a metaphor for god, just see it for what it is: the sun and nothing more.
BeingBadAtMaths 1 week ago
@BeingBadAtMaths
Nothing "truly" significant about it? Then why say there is anything significant about anything in the play? The director knew the connotations involved and that is why the play ends, not with a despairing Samuel L., but with the rising sun, the camera looking towards the EAST.
powereddrive 1 week ago
@powereddrive The sun is not what is important, as far as I'm concerned (hence why I don't find it it significant; this ties in with 'White's' nihilistic view on life), no matter how many times you want to keep hammering your point. All I'm saying is that to the one looking at something, it means different things. To you, it's something profound and meaningful. To me, it's just a sun rising yet again.
BeingBadAtMaths 1 week ago
Excuse me, but I don't hold to the belief that all good people go to heaven and all bad go to hell, God's Word denounces Suicide , Because God, Jehovah , is God, not of the dead, but of the living, Also The professor is correct, though he probably doesn't know it, when you die, you die, As Ecclesiastes says in Chapter 9:5-6, 9 shows that the living are concience that they will die, But as for the dead, They're concience of nothing at all.... But there is more...
HunterR909 2 months ago
..Ask, Would you like to know more? "
HunterR909 2 months ago
@HunterR909 Did you even watch the movie? I am 100% sure that you being a 'devout christian' are the same as a prison convert trying his hardest to make right with the world, not trying to convert everyone they see. The view of the professor and people like him where a life beyond death is not what they want... there is no changing that. They don't want your biblical fiction. They want pure fact, consistency, proof, absolutes. They want death to be death, meaning the end, not renewal
Puzzlesocks 2 months ago
All of you are forgetting that this was a MOVIE, a piece of fiction, Samuel Jacksons Portrayal of a so-called " Devout " christian is flawed, First of all, any " True " Christian would have never even considered doing what his character did, If I, had just saved his life, I would ask why, and then after that speach that Tommy Lee at the end, I would ask.
" Why do you think that is, Professor, Why do you think man has that eventuality? ", and then I would show him Romans 5:12 Then ask if he->
HunterR909 2 months ago
I disagree with you for not including the last part of the play. Where Samuel L. Jackson's character bemoans the fact that he could not come up with the words to convince the Professor not to kill himself. It was a great and fitting ending to the play.
loveblonde83 3 months ago
@MrCockmeatsandwich69 you are totally correct in declaring that i have no original thoughts in my head concerning this subject, but how could i if i am not the originator. i am the created and i worship the creator the Father through Jesus Christ.
MrHoneybrown1 4 months ago
"The shadow of the axe hangs over every joy, every road ends in death. Every friendship, every love. Torment, loss, betrayal, pain, suffering, age and dignity. Hideous lingering illness and all of it with a single conclusion. For you, everyone and everything you've ever chosen to care for" - White.
Nomis2779 5 months ago
@MrCockmeatsandwich69 ...said the idiot agenda troll call cockmeatsandwich. Give me a break.
SmokiSounds 5 months ago
* You Tell Me That I Want God's Love Well I Don't I Want Forgiveness But Theres No One Ask It Of *
IAmAlbertWesker747 5 months ago
believe that if you want to but one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and when that day comes i guarente you that tommy lee jones or people like his character will be in that line
MrHoneybrown1 5 months ago
@MrHoneybrown1 oh just shut up! it's your sick imagination is what's wrong with this world!
Webzlinger 5 months ago
"Evolution cannot avoid bringing intelligent life ultimately to an awareness of one thing, and one thing above all else. And that one thing is futility."
That's powerful. This play is the fucking nihilistic manifesto. Bravo McCarthy, bravo.
ousooners5193 5 months ago
Brilliance.
AdamskaHaven 6 months ago
Loosing fear of death is the most important thing a human can do. To accept the notion of suicide, possibly contemplate it seriously, but never do it. You take that feeling and you hold it close inside. Knowing that this world is yours and you can do whatever you please with it. Smirk in the face of the of the mindless self involved herd and walk the world untethered. You are your own God.
xrockthe40ozx 6 months ago
@xrockthe40ozx Yes. We always were our own god. I was never religious but when I was young I had an experience like how people often describe a de-conversion. I seriously considered whether there was any meaning to life for the first time. I must have deep down assumed that there was (or at least that we couldn't say that there wasn't) because when I concluded that there couldn't possibly be a meaning it blew my mind and I felt like I was finally awake and the world was mine.
kevinscales 6 months ago
Great acting from both gentlemen, and I feel so sorry for Samuel Jackson's character. I'm sure he wished he hadn't saved Tommy Lee Jaones !
FractalBolt 7 months ago
what the professor says is all right:S
kolhanzel10 7 months ago
i dont get it,i love the movie but just dont get the end
wokinstorm 8 months ago
@wokinstorm What dont you get? In the ending he is just saying that living is useless, and that we make up certain believes to keep ourself going. But if you are smart enough, and can see through all the bullshit and see life how it really is, you wouldnt want to be born again.. Everything will eventually die out, which means everything ends in a disappointment. And he craves for an ending of all the disappointments and false hope he experienced before..
Ericwvm 5 months ago
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@wokinstorm What dont you get? In the ending he is just saying that living is useless, and that we make up certain believes to keep ourself going. But if you are smart enough, and can see through all the bullshit and see life how it really is, you wouldnt want to be born again.. Everything will eventually die out, which means everything ends in a disappointment. And he craves for an ending of all the disappointments and false hope he experienced before..
Ericwvm 5 months ago
should have kept the part where he says "and if that pain were collective instead of merely reiterative the sheer weight of it would drag the world from the walls of the universe and send it crashing and burning down through what ever night it might yet be capable of engendering until it was not even ash!"
INTERPOLFAN17 8 months ago
@INTERPOLFAN17
there were a few parts that I wanted to keep... what I decided to post were actually the parts that I probably related with the most. Not that I'm implying that what I cut out wasn't relatable, but it didn't seem to have the impact, based on syntax, that I want this clip to portray.
mb7hl 8 months ago
@skinhdgunner1
Its a movie... no clue why it never was released in theaters.
mb7hl 10 months ago
i just watched the trailer for The Human Centipede...and at this moment this is exactly how i feel lol
thewhiteafrican 10 months ago
@ rlf807 This film is an adaption of the play by Cormac Mcarthy. Find a copy of the play, it's pretty much verbatim. Also, quote of the week:
"A thing; dangling in senseless articulation in the howling void; no meaning to its life, its words"
IDGAFcoolface 10 months ago
absolutly stunnig
wonderful job bro :DDDDDDDDDDDD
alcoholicmr 10 months ago
@alcoholicmr
thanks
mb7hl 10 months ago
I love this film, thankyou............ Goodbye :) (ps not a suicide) But seriously wow! What a great compilation of scenes from an amazing performance.......Bravo :)
daehllaw 11 months ago
@daehllaw
Thanks for enjoying this!
mb7hl 11 months ago
I whould be very grateful if you'd send me, or post the script for this scene, very grateful! =D
rolf807 11 months ago
@rolf807
Script? There isn't a script for just this video.
The entire ending scene is close to 15 minutes... I shortened it to keep just the parts I really like... which also are, what I believe, are the stronger points.
If you decide to watch this clip 100 times, typing the lines out, then please send me a copy.
mb7hl 11 months ago