diesel engines operate on direct compression ignition. Air is compressed as the piston rises in the cylinder, gets very hot and when you spray in diesel it auto-ignites. Petrol(gas) engines work by sucking in petrol(gas) as the piston drops, then compressing it(but not very much) as the piston rises, and then setting off a spark to ignite the fuel/air mix. Very different methods that should not be mixed.
oh if only life was so simple.Fuel pump/injectors designed for nice thin runny fossil diesel + really thick cold veggie oil=pump failure.Add 3ml white spirit and wait a year and veggie oil will still be exactly same thickness(Any doubters try rheology viscosity test for yourself after a week, I have!!!).Fact: all diesels will run on 100% veggie oil(no thinners) but all will fail,some very quickly, and all catastrophically. Don't waste money and time on white spirits
@guineapiggyman I don't know where you shop but veggie oil in Asda is £1.05 and diesel at the pumps is £1.36. But collect used veggie oil from restaurants and most give it to you free!!!! Even if your gas is government subsidised, free used veggie is a winner. Besides, veggie oil is grown fresh each year so is sustainable, what happens when the middle east oil wells run dry? Wait for a few million years for the next batch????
@davemortensen well, im in the US, and gas is $4.89 a gallon. beg oil is $7 a gallon. btw, did you know that china and japan use 7 times the gas that the US and UK use combined? and the mid-east oil wells only hold 1/20 the worlds oil. most of the earths oil is in colorado and canada. (and you dont have to wait millions of years for more. you do realize that everyday new oil is created, just like it has been for years... naturally)
The pre-heaters you talk about are glow plugs. In the winter the engine is stone cold. Heat generated when air in the cylinder is compressed dissipates almost instantly, meaning difficult starting. Glow plugs provide a very hot tip, often 400c or above, to help the diesel ignite until the engine warms up. This is very different to a fuel pre-heater which heats veggie oil up, making it really runny(good for pump) and better able to vapourise(better combustion). Yes I know engines
What are you on about, pre heaters are only in use on a cold start, you'll notice the light goes out after a while and then you turn the key and it starts, fuel is not permanently pre heated in an hot air engine, and prey tell, what fictious damage will my hot air engine suffer, and only an idiot would run an engine without oil in it, it's bound to seize, not blow up !!!, combustion only takes place above the piston and lubricating oil as nothing to do with this engine space
when very clever highly paid motor design engineers make pumps, injectors, computers etc for diesel engines they assume you will actually use diesel.Veggie oil is NOT THE SAME as diesel.It is thick which strains pumps beyond what they were designed for and it does not vapourise when pumped through very fine injector nozzles perfected for nice runny fossil diesel.It sprays in fine blobs and does not burn completely in the fraction of a second before the exhaust valve opens.Maybe this is not good?
jeep cherokee has a fuel pre-heater which allows the use of veggie oil, most cars don't. I have two cherokees for this reason. All Diesels will run on veggie oil, but without pre-heaters it does a lot of damage which may not show up for hundreds or thousands of miles. For the doubters, try draining out your sump oil and driving. It will run .... for a while before blowing up. Just because it starts and drives does not mean all is well.
An Hot Air engine will burn any oil, the only thing to be wary of is the injector pump requires lube, don't run on 28seconds (Kerosine/Parrafin), to watery.
You can near fill up in winter and add a couple of gallon of 28 seconds to the tank to stop it waxing, which I believe is what they do to a tank of DERV in places like Canada
Hope you know that heating oil has the same chemical markers as they put in red diesel. Just because it isn't red doesn't mean it isn't there. Get caught with this in your tank and your going down and your cars for the crusher.
i run pure oil in the summer and a mix of diesel in the winter or cooler months,works fine for me for the last 6 years no mods to my diesel cherokee on a 98 plate.
@Watsupwiya yea but on a normal diesel car diesel and oil will mix in the tank and i think that this should not good or can i just put now oil in my fuel tank
Yes, just put clean veg oil in tank and go, I only said put some normal 35 seconds oil in, in winter, to stop it waxing, and, it's not a diesel car, it's an hot air engine car, and it will burn any oil you can squirt through it's injectors, watch the "Top Gear" link, volvo on veg oil
Well done.Mr Diesel inventor of the engine intended it to be run on peanut oil.
I got a d4d Toyota corolla,I'm to scared to try cooking oil. You can legally use 10000 liters without paying tax.Some today said that you can get oil for 14p a litre!!!
i trust experience because many manufacturer claims & reviewer claims turn out to be wrong or just skewed. and i didnt listen to that mechanic, though sadly my aunt did. actually, i myself took a look under the hood & found a cram full of stuff. the oil filter, which is supposed to be one of the easiest parts to replace, was buried under so much stuff. special tools for that are required, tools which very few can get other than mechanics.
here's a good way to clean up your body AND the planet: dont fry those fries, & don't go to McD's. instead, get a veggie oil car, & see if your local restaurant has used oil. that way, you can filter it, put it in your car, and pay little to nuthin to run it. if only i had the money to do it, gas prices here are $3.22 a gal. lets start using veggie oil & make the fat oil CEO's get up & get real jobs and actually work like the rest of us.
how many emissions does veggie oil create compared to diesel, & how do they compare in mileage? the things i think of when lookin @ an alternative car are how much maintenance they require compared to gas, what is the mileage, how many emissions they make, how easy is refining the fuel, & what pollution do make in their production. FYI electric cars & hybrids make MUCH MORE pollution than gas cars cuz so much fuel is burned mass shipping their complex parts (totally defeats the purpose).
@ClaraMassa1 actually, when it comes to using most of the fuel in the world we split that with india & china because were all big in land area. the uk doesnt use as much just because they're tiny.
@ClaraMassa1 well said. they get crap performance and crap milage. they have heavy cars with huge engines that offer very poor performance when compared to say a evo or any uk car
@ClaraMassa1 you're forgetting population density, areas like that are crammed full of people. especially india. and also ive seen uk traffic video, and ive seen MANY traffic jams, but thats probably because your ministry of transport or whatever it is cant figure out what its doing. you maybe use less fuel if you live within a few miles where you work, but thats not how it is for most people. by the way, many of those smaller cars can only be worked on by a specialist mechanic, which costs
@ClaraMassa1 wanna know something funny? my 92 V8 dakota has needed less maintenance than a 96 VW jetta & a 98 honda accord. wanna know how i know this? first-hand experience. my aunt owned the jetta & my sister owned the accord, & even though they took care of their cars they still went to the mechanic regularly. yet, my 18 year old pickup still has many of its stock parts from 92 and only needs its basic maintenance. i save money by not going to the repair shop as often.
@ClaraMassa1 the reason WHY small cars need special mechanic is because you cant just jack em up & replace whats broken; you gotta either put em on a lift or rip thru a bunch of parts just to get to whats broken. VW Golf.
@ClaraMassa1 not to mention, my pickup has never left me on the side of the road, unlike my aunt's jetta. the jetta=takes 10 minutes to start, my pickup=starts right up. fuel-efficiency isnt crap if you're going to the repair shop regularly. for what i dont save on gas, i save by not needing to buy new car parts. sure, id like to believe your cars are all-around better, by ill just go by the trustworthiness of first-hand experience.
@ClaraMassa1 i never said my dakota gets better mpgs, although it gets close (dakota=21, jetta=25, accord=26). im saying that my truck is more dependable those those two. not to mention its got almost 300K miles on it, and the other two only got 17K & 21K miles on em. i brought this up because you said "good efficient car", which means not only good mileage but DEPENDABILITY as well. savin mpgs doesnt mean much when you're car sucks too much to go anywhere
"sure, id like to believe your cars are all-around better, by ill just go by the trustworthiness of first-hand experience."
Well actually, British cars are shit. Almost as bad as American cars (except British cars are more efficient fuel wise-check the stats yourself) . You need to compare power/weight ratios to fuel consumption to discuss efficiency accuratly, but im sure you knew that already.
Simple fact is this. Japanese & German cars are best.
@ClaraMassa1 in an earlier comment, you showed how ignorant you were to why we drive pickups & SUVs (less than half of all cars on the road are either of the two). we have reasons for why we drive them you know. people who work for/own a utilities business, farmers, and people who are just always hauling stuff need pickups. parents who have to haul kids plus their stuff use SUVs. try stuffing 2 parents, 3 kids & all their stuff into a honda, it doesnt work well.
that's funny, because there are plenty of other people around the world who manage to get their familys into cars under with 2 litre engines.
why is america special? you dont need a V8 to carry a family, unless it's a particularly fat family. MPV's carry 8 people and run on 2 litre diesel engines.
by the way, the Honda Accord Station Wagon is more than capable of carrying even an averagly fat american child, including 2 siblings and his fat parents as well.
@ClaraMassa1 can you fit the whole family in when they've got gigantic backpacks full of books & 2 boys who have football gear? a honda accord cant carry that. maybe if you took out the spare tire & tire-changing kit, but then your screwed if you get a flat. not to mention an accord wouldnt cut it where i live. those things are gutless climbin the hill i drive up over everyday.
kinda funny that you call us all fat, yet if you came here you wouldnt see a single fat kid in my town. you=IGNORANCE
.@cripin2021 . And you still haven't told me which small car needs a specialist mechanic. Maybe you should deal with one issue at a time, because you're getting confused.
@ClaraMassa1 in case you havent paying attention to my comments, i already told you: VW golf. ever try changing the tranny on one? my buddy tried to, but found that they had it bolted in with a very rare star-headed bolt. Gee, i wonder why that is.....oh wait, i know, so people cant work on them themselves and gotta take em to a mechanic.
@ClaraMassa1 in case you didnt know, torx head sockets arent exactly stocked in every auto parts store here in the US. we use basic hex head sockets. very few online auto parts stores even carry em, unless of course you look up european ones & shipping's gonna cost your arm & your dick.
@ClaraMassa1 i dont speak like a mechanic, but that doesnt say shit about my knowledge of cars. very assumptive you are, but assumption leads to mistakes good sir. but then again, ignorant people tend to be very assumptive.
Which is that yanks drive big inefficient cars, and the rest of the world doesn't,because we can't afford the fuel,cos you fat Cunts need 4 litre v8s to haul your fat kids around, as you can't fit them into an accord station wagon.
@ClaraMassa1 this coming from the country that hasthe land rover & the Range Rover, a BIG HONKIN SUV with a giant V8? just face it tard, if anything youre just a scaled down more-ignorant version of US.
@ClaraMassa1 oh right, yeah what rovers that arent sold just get put in a giant field to sit & rot. thats right. however the same applies here, look around town here & most of what you'll see will be a ford coupe or an import here & there. those of us who do have the bigger vehicles have bigger reasons for using them. you missed my point dumbass. you have scaled down jags & nobles, we have scaled down mustangs & buicks. if you're the one representing the brits, i pity you all.
and you misunderstand me when i say SUVs and pickups. i meant ANY large engined car that isnt built for pure speed (and even american sports cars are inefficient).
fact is , americans drive big useless cars, because they CAN. while the rest of the world pays extra for YOUR usage. you moan about paying $3.50 a gallon or whatever. imagine paying $3.50 per litre, like the rest of the world, you wont be so fucking happy with your 15-20 MPG then.
@ClaraMassa1 when you think SUV or pickup, are you thinking of the gas-guzzlers from back in the early 90's? all the ones now are gutless gas-sippers, just like the euros sent over here. some of the old ones are still on the road, but because their design is long-lasting & easy to maintain. mine for example, the 318 V8 never dies. ive seen "fuel-efficient" jap toyota & nissan pickups, in the junkyard that is.
truth is, euro's such as yourself are as ignorant as can possibly be.
@cripin2021 .your love of american cars and your delusion that a v8 can be an efficient car, are all stemmed from the same bone-headed place: PATRIOTISM.
at least I can admit that the UK make shit cars. get your head out of your arse and experience what the rest of the world has to offer...
and tell me this: if yank cars are so efficient, how come you use most of the petrol in the world. you use more than China for fucks sake, why is that?
@ClaraMassa1 in case you're too retarded to pay attention, OVERALL efficiency doesnt just come from fuel-efficiency: it also comes from dependability & the need for less maintenance. the jap car takes the fuel-efficiency, however my truck takes the cake on dependability.
im not afraid to admit that our cars do have some problems (mustang), im pointing out that your cars arent a whole lot better because their problems are just the same, just in different places.
@ClaraMassa1 maybe its because they were only looking at gas-sipper engines? did you ever consider that?
nobody else in the world drives them? what the hell are you smoking? maybe if you plucky brits werent so ignorant you'd look up & see jeeps, chevys, & fords all around europe.
the difference between you & me is ive tried both american & import, and seeing both i prefer american. my scrapyard has toyotas & nissan pickups that couldnt keep up with my 318 dakota.
@cripin2021 By the way, you still haven't said which small car needs a special mechanic. Shame you can't name a single one, because it might just make you look less....ignorant.
@cripin2021 . The only fords in Britain are the focus and mondeo (made in Britain) and the only Chevrolet we see are the Chevrolet matiz, which as you know, is made in korea.
And basically nobody drives jeeps, cos they are inefficient, and we have land rovers. Maybe you should visit Britain, then you would be qualified to make such a comment.
@ClaraMassa1 maybe look OUTSIDE of britain, you'll see that there are plenty more of our cars idiot. you dont speak for the other nations on planet earth.
@cripin2021 .I have lived in 3 different countries, and visited a lot more than you, I can tell. American cars are number 1 in America only. Check the facts yourself.
But then in America, you need specialist mechanics and rare tools for small cars.
By the way,they use torx heads cos they're less prone to shear than basic Allen bolts. But I'm sure you knew that being the intelligent person that you are.
@ClaraMassa1 gramps was stationed in london in the 60s & 70s, and tells stories of ignorant brits. i didnt believe that was true until i got into a debate with an ingorant brit such as yourself. you guys may have dominated the world a couple hundred years ago, but thats all over now.
Again, your boneheaded patriotism is shining through. I don't care if you insult my countrymen. By the way, I thing you are confusing ignorance with arrogance. The English may be a cold, arrogant nation, but they can't be called ignorant. Funny how 1/3 of Americans can't read above 3rd grade level, and most of you don't own a passport. And most of you can't even point to Iraq on a map.
Hey, you seem like a smart person, I need some advice...one of my indicator relays are broken, and I need to remove the glove box to mend it, except it is fastened on with a SUPER RARE star headed bolt. I was wondering if you know of any specialist mechanics who could help?
Oh, my mistake, its just a torx bolt, I can buy the tool from halfords for about £5.
Google "torx bolt", and you will see how rare it isn't.
and the Honda B-16 engine is the only engine in the history of motoring to have had no product recalls or reported design flaws .
that is a FACT. so you can trust your "experience", but tell me one thing...did the same mechanic who "regularly maintained" your aunt's Jetta (which still takes 10 minutes to start) tell you that you need a "specialised mechanic" to repair small cars? cos to be honest, you sound a bit gullible.
@cripin2021 its a prosess that removes the glycerin from it, its simple to do with easy to get stuff (heet fuel treatment and drain unclogger) just look up the recipe!
@themadscientest and to think that we're still using gasoline when we could easily run it on this (heet &drain unclogger are 2 things i have in my house right now). if i could afford to get a new car i'd just get a diesel car or truck & run it on that.
@cripin2021 ok, look up the instructions take 5x the precautions and if you do it its at your own risk so you cant sue me if you go blind from methanol or get a lye burn (btw it has to be the dry unclogger not the liquid i use zep from homedepot the same place i get paint for my art)
@themadscientest trust me, im not one of those douchebags that sues. i believe in a little thing called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. i laugh at the people who sued mcdonalds for making them fat, & i tell them "you didn't have to eat the burger, you knew it was unhealthy".
I apologize for so many messages, but this information can be very important. Just plan wisely, find a restaurant and get some free oil, filter that stuff, and away you go! I have an 11 gallon tank for diesel, and an 11 gallon tank for the veggie oil in my trunk. Just an old plastic fuel tank with holes drilled in and hoses in them. That oil spills, so watch out! Seats absorb it easy, lol. Last thing: Oil will not rust. Veggie oil is just that: Oil. it lubricates. Happy Frying!
None of this will harm the engine. My car has 425,000 actual miles on the original engine and trans, and has spent most of those miles on veggie oil and biodiesel. Go green, right? LoL One nice thing on my pump, is I have a fuel mixture adjustment. I can regulate how much flows into the injectors, and the less goes in, the easier it is on the engine until the oil is warmed up. Before I shut off the car, I switch back to diesel to clear out the veggie oil for easier starting next time.
You can run engine oil, transmission fluid, veggie oil, biodiesel, any of these in a diesel, if it's filtered properly. I take my engine oil and trans fluid to a .5 micron filter to be safe. Word of caution: Newer diesels have an infrared sensor to detect what is going through. If it sees the wrong color or viscosity, you can burn up the pump, my cousin went through a couple. Mechanical pumps are fine. For the sulfur free diesel, careful - the sulfur lubricates the pump, you need that.
Oil is thick, so when cool does not flow well. Heat it up? EXCELLENT. Now, don't get me wrong, the setup does not have to be so elaborate. But this setup is useful for cooler weather, for you will have an amazingly hard time starting up the engine on cold veggie oil. Make sure it's water free, for water will get in and seize up your injector pump and clog your injectors (personal experience). An addition: The reason a diesel can run on oil is because it runs on compression.
What I have set up is an electric sylenoid to switch between fuel systems. One is the regular diesel, and the other is the vegetable oil. Both tanks have a return line, so I use a five port sylenoid from a mid-nineties ford. I have the veggie oil run through a heater block, which branches off of the heater core and uses the radiator fluid to heat the oil flowing through. I run the engine til it's warm and then switch over to vegetable oil so it enters the engine hot.
davemortensen, I compliment you! I run vegetable oil in a 1986 VW Golf with a 1.6L diesel. She has a mechanical, belt driven injection pump. I will make a couple suggestions, if you don't mind. Filter any used veggie oil before adding it to the tanks, and also have a filter right before the injection pump. I would not advise running the oil in your regular fuel tank.
I heard you have to add a bottle of white spirit for every 5 gallon of cooking oil so it thins it out slightly like diesel. I would love to try it on a old diesel first if i got me hands on one. Also i think the mix of white spirit stops it from freezeing
In Spain at the minute,at my local supermarket they have an offer of 59 cents per litre of cooking oil!!!!!!!!!!
On a buy two,get three offer.I bought 99 litres LOL!!!!
Also like to add that i have been running my diesels of cooking oil for over five years now and i change all of my filters each year as a matter of principle and have found no adverse effects at all.Just have to mix 50/50 during the winter or better yet 25 cooking oil/75 diesel.
It's true you can run a diesel engine on vegetable or any other type of household cooking oil but it's only economical if you can get used oil for free and refine it to remove all the impurities. New oil off the shelf at the supermarket is far more expensive to buy per litre/gallon than diesel at the filling station.
If you run out of fuel, just knock at the door of the closest house and ask for a liter of cooking oil.. :-) I'm running mine on the cheapest new cooking oil in the winter and it runs as if i was running it on normal diesel. I own a Lupo SDI 1999 very cheap to run already, now one more reason to keep it!
@Pyramidtank He is correct. Virgin cooking oil in the United States is FAR MORE EXPENSIVE than diesel fuel! Now, WVO, or waste vegetable is FREE from restaurants that will give it to you.
@chemo38 Ah, not exactly free, unless you talk someone into giving it to you for free. Many places that I have encountered get several hundred dollars every several months for their vegetable oil. But none the less I can get about 3000 gallons free annually and have more oil then I can burn.
I completely fucked with my CITROEN ZX 1.9 TD doing it!!! I would advise anyone tring this not to fill up the tank with straight WVO (waste vegetable oil) as it will make your pump to fail in less than 1000 miles, BOSH pumps are better than LUCAS and others but WVO is a bit too heavy to become gas in the injectors, however if you heat the oil at 80c you will get more MPG and won't cause any damage to your pump, the best way is to have 2 tanks and only use WVO when the oil and engine are HOT!!!
You're supposed to have a fully heated flowpath for the oil. The guy I saw with a veggie van had to start the car with diesel(biodiesel optional) and turn it off with diesel. The reason for this being is while the waste veg oil will run perfectly fine in the engine, it congeals when it cools. He would simply start up his van as normal, til the engine heated up, then he would flick a switch on his dashboard. I did not know it was that simple. It was shockingly simple. Why go the biodiesel route.
so all i need to convert my 7.3 turbo diesel is get a pump and thats it i got a tank in the bed theres nothing you have to do to the engine to get it to brun special glow plug or heater or anything
gee, never thought of that.But thinking about it now, maybe fuel pump makers designed fuel pumps extra strong to handle veggie oil just in case anybody did this, or maybe injector makers designed them to handle thick, sticky oil, rather than nice runny diesel.Then again maybe not.Maybe millions of pounds spent on making biodiesel is totally wasted and all you need do is pour veggie oil into your tank.I leave the choice to you.
although most diesel cars can run on veggie oil,preferably filtered and de-watered, they do not like it.If you pre-heat the oil, it gets really very runny and burns much better.We run numerous cars on veggie oil but always either with a fuel pre heater or using biodiesel which is veggie oil that has been chemically refined to make it like fossil diesel
I start the car and run it on diesel; when it is warmed up and I made a heat exchanger can running the engine coolant through it to heat the veg. oil. Car runs fine. You have to filter the oil and remove the junk in it. I made a centrifuge and it handles a gallon at a time.
@davemortensen You commented that diesel cars "do not like it" refering to vegetable oil. I've known lot's of diesel cars and trucks and none of them have ever told me they "do not like it." I wonder what Rudolf Diesel would say about vegetable oil, I wonder if he would say I "do not like it." I believe he would say, Petroleum, I "do not like petroleum."
@davemortensen what nonsense are you talking about warmer corn oil burns better. if it burns it burns. when it hits the engine bay it get warm. you do NOT need to mod. any car to run corn oil. all you have to watch out for is if the car has an O2 sensor. and you might have a couple cars that run on it, we own 3 diesel mercedes that run on it (unmodded) and have been for 5+ years. i have put ATF fluid, motor oil, corn oil, peanut oil and every other oil in my car. and she runs on it.
@Petchhyy I wouldn't...just put in-line filters on the fuel lines and a 9 volt electric pump to move the WVO to fuel injectors. Very easy and reliable!
@davemortensen that is how easy it is. people are wasting millions of dollars on biodiesel. look at my video's. my car has no mods whats so ever, and i have been running straight corn oil since i was 16. pour it in my tank, and drive. people over analize everything, and you know what you get? wasted 10 million dollars on an idea when your neighbor did it twice as fast and easy. (keep this in mind. theres always some 1 smarter then you.) once again, check out my video.
The problem with VO it can and does attack parts of the engine. EG certain fuel pumps for example and can result in a fuel sludge which will require a clean out if not change of fuel line line.
You're a dumb ass for not running the veg oil through a filter... good way to damage the injection pump.
and for the engine to consume less, it must be tuned for veg oil - you need larger injector nozzles, and adjust the engine timing. Electronic diesels will do this automatically though...
It looks like it was pre-filtered. Looked pretty clear even with the brown color. I dont think anyone would bitch about less fuel economy if their fuel was free.
Doesn't matter how you filter that stuff. You ALWAYS need a filter to make sure no dirt gets into the injection system. Not having a $5 filter could cause you over $1000 worth of work to an otherwise good running car. Is that the kind of risk you want to take? Maybe if the car was a beater, and you couldn't care less...
you know, car manufacturers fit a fuel filter just before the fuel pump just in case any muck gets into the fuel. If you put in unfiltered veggie oil, you will need to change that filter more often than if you put in filtered oil!!!! Either way, nothing much gets through the manufacturer's filter, that's what it's there for and that's what it does!!!
the OE filter is about 10-15 microns... a ton of crap will either get through or clog that filter.
i didn't get to fully examine the pipe routing, and don't really care but if you ran the veg through the OE filter then you're okay for the most part. there is only ONE fuel filter in a diesel. the rest are simply screens located in the injection pump, and the fuel tank. but thats just vw, others may vary.
I do not recommend using more diesel or bio fuel than that because it starts smoking at start up. I ran 70/30 gas/diesel in a lawnmower for a while to experiment, and it fouled the carburetor with wax from the diesel fuel that gelled in the bowl, and fouled a couple plugs. But it ran hard!
I have a fuel injected 99 Impala. All the gasoline here is 10-25% ethanol and a little water sometimes (lazy station owners). Since they added the ethanol in TX gas, my mileage dropped from 28 to 20-24. I have been adding 1 gallon of Diesel (which is probably 10-25% "bio products" like fat and corn oil) and it runs better and accelerates much harder, idles better. So far it has not plugged any filters or fouled plugs.
vegetable oil wont work on a gasoline engine?
sparklerbombg 2 weeks ago
diesel engines operate on direct compression ignition. Air is compressed as the piston rises in the cylinder, gets very hot and when you spray in diesel it auto-ignites. Petrol(gas) engines work by sucking in petrol(gas) as the piston drops, then compressing it(but not very much) as the piston rises, and then setting off a spark to ignite the fuel/air mix. Very different methods that should not be mixed.
davemortensen 2 weeks ago
reason is the oil was to thick, just ad 3ml of white spirit to every 750ml of raw vegatable oil, leave for a week, problem solved,
jouk45 1 month ago
oh if only life was so simple.Fuel pump/injectors designed for nice thin runny fossil diesel + really thick cold veggie oil=pump failure.Add 3ml white spirit and wait a year and veggie oil will still be exactly same thickness(Any doubters try rheology viscosity test for yourself after a week, I have!!!).Fact: all diesels will run on 100% veggie oil(no thinners) but all will fail,some very quickly, and all catastrophically. Don't waste money and time on white spirits
davemortensen 3 weeks ago
this is kinda retarded, considering veggie oil is WAY more per gallon than gas. how is this helping anytihing?
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
@guineapiggyman I don't know where you shop but veggie oil in Asda is £1.05 and diesel at the pumps is £1.36. But collect used veggie oil from restaurants and most give it to you free!!!! Even if your gas is government subsidised, free used veggie is a winner. Besides, veggie oil is grown fresh each year so is sustainable, what happens when the middle east oil wells run dry? Wait for a few million years for the next batch????
davemortensen 1 month ago
@davemortensen well, im in the US, and gas is $4.89 a gallon. beg oil is $7 a gallon. btw, did you know that china and japan use 7 times the gas that the US and UK use combined? and the mid-east oil wells only hold 1/20 the worlds oil. most of the earths oil is in colorado and canada. (and you dont have to wait millions of years for more. you do realize that everyday new oil is created, just like it has been for years... naturally)
guineapiggyman 1 month ago
Do you actually know anything about the hot air engine or any engine for that matter ?
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
The pre-heaters you talk about are glow plugs. In the winter the engine is stone cold. Heat generated when air in the cylinder is compressed dissipates almost instantly, meaning difficult starting. Glow plugs provide a very hot tip, often 400c or above, to help the diesel ignite until the engine warms up. This is very different to a fuel pre-heater which heats veggie oil up, making it really runny(good for pump) and better able to vapourise(better combustion). Yes I know engines
davemortensen 7 months ago
What are you on about, pre heaters are only in use on a cold start, you'll notice the light goes out after a while and then you turn the key and it starts, fuel is not permanently pre heated in an hot air engine, and prey tell, what fictious damage will my hot air engine suffer, and only an idiot would run an engine without oil in it, it's bound to seize, not blow up !!!, combustion only takes place above the piston and lubricating oil as nothing to do with this engine space
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
when very clever highly paid motor design engineers make pumps, injectors, computers etc for diesel engines they assume you will actually use diesel.Veggie oil is NOT THE SAME as diesel.It is thick which strains pumps beyond what they were designed for and it does not vapourise when pumped through very fine injector nozzles perfected for nice runny fossil diesel.It sprays in fine blobs and does not burn completely in the fraction of a second before the exhaust valve opens.Maybe this is not good?
davemortensen 7 months ago
jeep cherokee has a fuel pre-heater which allows the use of veggie oil, most cars don't. I have two cherokees for this reason. All Diesels will run on veggie oil, but without pre-heaters it does a lot of damage which may not show up for hundreds or thousands of miles. For the doubters, try draining out your sump oil and driving. It will run .... for a while before blowing up. Just because it starts and drives does not mean all is well.
davemortensen 7 months ago
An Hot Air engine will burn any oil, the only thing to be wary of is the injector pump requires lube, don't run on 28seconds (Kerosine/Parrafin), to watery.
You can near fill up in winter and add a couple of gallon of 28 seconds to the tank to stop it waxing, which I believe is what they do to a tank of DERV in places like Canada
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
Hope you know that heating oil has the same chemical markers as they put in red diesel. Just because it isn't red doesn't mean it isn't there. Get caught with this in your tank and your going down and your cars for the crusher.
davemortensen 7 months ago
Of courseyou can it's an "Hot Air" Engine, it'll burn any oil
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
i run pure oil in the summer and a mix of diesel in the winter or cooler months,works fine for me for the last 6 years no mods to my diesel cherokee on a 98 plate.
battlestarone 8 months ago 2
I just throw it in the fuel tank. Just have to make sure to get all the old bits of fried chips/chickec or whatever out of it :)
qwertyui90qwertyui90 8 months ago
@qwertyui90qwertyui90
Good Man ! Bang On !
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
love to know how you get on with fuel filters, which are between 5 and 10 microns, at which size particles are way, way below human vision.
davemortensen 7 months ago
@qwertyui90qwertyui90
YES ! for gods sake, how complicated don't you want it
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
can you just clean the fuel tank and put cooking oil? please i need the answer
akinorhan5 8 months ago
@akinorhan5
yes, don't wate time cleaning tank, fill up on oil and go !!
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
@Watsupwiya yea but on a normal diesel car diesel and oil will mix in the tank and i think that this should not good or can i just put now oil in my fuel tank
akinorhan5 7 months ago
@akinorhan5
Yes, just put clean veg oil in tank and go, I only said put some normal 35 seconds oil in, in winter, to stop it waxing, and, it's not a diesel car, it's an hot air engine car, and it will burn any oil you can squirt through it's injectors, watch the "Top Gear" link, volvo on veg oil
Watsupwiya 7 months ago
nice vid.. now visiting your site. I want my l200 to run on the stuff but everyone thinks i will screw up the engine..
europeandrifter 9 months ago
@europeandrifter Ask a mechanic to do it, they dont charge that much to do it.
unholynationmorons 9 months ago
@unholynationmorons to do what ?
europeandrifter 8 months ago
do you loose any hp? how many miles do you get with the veggie oil???
kmn5 10 months ago
bee running my jeep cherokee on this stuff for 6 years,but you may have to mix it with diesel in the winter,our car runs sweet as a nut.
battlestarone 10 months ago
@battlestarone you´ve really run it o vegie oil 6 years straight, no diesel what so ever (not including winter)????
axxelander 10 months ago
can vegtable oil be used for cars that are not diesel?
MsSMSgirl 10 months ago
@MsSMSgirl
nope.
wiigamer136 10 months ago
@wiigamer136 :( ahh. shucks i was so excited too! i drive a daewoo!
MsSMSgirl 10 months ago
@MsSMSgirl
ah, I run my old Mercedes diesel on Veg oil. The car costed me only $1500.
wiigamer136 10 months ago
@MsSMSgirl that would totally ruin the engine
rickysmyth 10 months ago
@rickysmyth no it wouldnt
joneschri 9 months ago
Well done.Mr Diesel inventor of the engine intended it to be run on peanut oil.
I got a d4d Toyota corolla,I'm to scared to try cooking oil. You can legally use 10000 liters without paying tax.Some today said that you can get oil for 14p a litre!!!
express375 11 months ago
And people who drive range rovers are as dumb as Americans anyway.
There is a perfect example of a inefficient, badly made car. Range rovers are shit.
And by the way, new range rovers use Ford engines. I don't drive a range rover, and I think they are shit. I'd rather have a Toyota.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
i trust experience because many manufacturer claims & reviewer claims turn out to be wrong or just skewed. and i didnt listen to that mechanic, though sadly my aunt did. actually, i myself took a look under the hood & found a cram full of stuff. the oil filter, which is supposed to be one of the easiest parts to replace, was buried under so much stuff. special tools for that are required, tools which very few can get other than mechanics.
cripin2021 11 months ago
i love the music.
it says "look at me and my wacky cheap fuel".
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
here's a good way to clean up your body AND the planet: dont fry those fries, & don't go to McD's. instead, get a veggie oil car, & see if your local restaurant has used oil. that way, you can filter it, put it in your car, and pay little to nuthin to run it. if only i had the money to do it, gas prices here are $3.22 a gal. lets start using veggie oil & make the fat oil CEO's get up & get real jobs and actually work like the rest of us.
cripin2021 1 year ago
how many emissions does veggie oil create compared to diesel, & how do they compare in mileage? the things i think of when lookin @ an alternative car are how much maintenance they require compared to gas, what is the mileage, how many emissions they make, how easy is refining the fuel, & what pollution do make in their production. FYI electric cars & hybrids make MUCH MORE pollution than gas cars cuz so much fuel is burned mass shipping their complex parts (totally defeats the purpose).
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 .
fuck emissions.
biodiesel is cheaper, end of story. in UK petrol is gonna increase to £1.70 per litre. diesel will too.
fucking yanks complain about paying 4 bucks a gallon. and they use most of the fuel in the world.
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
@ClaraMassa1 actually, when it comes to using most of the fuel in the world we split that with india & china because were all big in land area. the uk doesnt use as much just because they're tiny.
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 .
bullshit.
russia is larger than china and india combined and it doesnt use half the fuel that those 3 countries do.
also, uk uses less because we pay more than 80% tax on fuel.
we have learned to use it less. how many people drive 4 litre cars in UK?
not many.
most people drive less than a 2 litre car in uk. in america, most people drive MORE than a 2 litre.
drive smaller cars. drive better cars. american cars are shit in so many ways.
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
@ClaraMassa1 well said. they get crap performance and crap milage. they have heavy cars with huge engines that offer very poor performance when compared to say a evo or any uk car
modelearth 1 year ago
@ClaraMassa1 you're forgetting population density, areas like that are crammed full of people. especially india. and also ive seen uk traffic video, and ive seen MANY traffic jams, but thats probably because your ministry of transport or whatever it is cant figure out what its doing. you maybe use less fuel if you live within a few miles where you work, but thats not how it is for most people. by the way, many of those smaller cars can only be worked on by a specialist mechanic, which costs
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 . Are you completely stupid?
I haven't forgotten population density. As you say,more people in India, yet they still use less fuel than the usa.
And who told you that smaller cars need a specialist mechanic? That's just bullshit. Name 1 small car that needs a specialist mechanic.
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
@cripin2021
Hahahaha. Specialist mechanic.
You really dont know shit about cars do you? Stick to your cadillac or whatever you think is a good efficient car.
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
@ClaraMassa1 wanna know something funny? my 92 V8 dakota has needed less maintenance than a 96 VW jetta & a 98 honda accord. wanna know how i know this? first-hand experience. my aunt owned the jetta & my sister owned the accord, & even though they took care of their cars they still went to the mechanic regularly. yet, my 18 year old pickup still has many of its stock parts from 92 and only needs its basic maintenance. i save money by not going to the repair shop as often.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
and you still havent named me a small car that needs a specialist mechanic.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 the reason WHY small cars need special mechanic is because you cant just jack em up & replace whats broken; you gotta either put em on a lift or rip thru a bunch of parts just to get to whats broken. VW Golf.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 not to mention, my pickup has never left me on the side of the road, unlike my aunt's jetta. the jetta=takes 10 minutes to start, my pickup=starts right up. fuel-efficiency isnt crap if you're going to the repair shop regularly. for what i dont save on gas, i save by not needing to buy new car parts. sure, id like to believe your cars are all-around better, by ill just go by the trustworthiness of first-hand experience.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Jetta takes 10 minutes to start? i'd get a new mechanic. your old one sucks. if a car takjes 10 minutes to start, it's broken.
also you fail to mention the history of the accord, the jetta and your dakota (milage etc).
these ALL play factors in how well an old car will run.
but in any case, you have proved my point..
and you're talking shit about efficiency too, there is no way a V8 dakota is more efficient that an Accord (check the MPG stats yourself).
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 i never said my dakota gets better mpgs, although it gets close (dakota=21, jetta=25, accord=26). im saying that my truck is more dependable those those two. not to mention its got almost 300K miles on it, and the other two only got 17K & 21K miles on em. i brought this up because you said "good efficient car", which means not only good mileage but DEPENDABILITY as well. savin mpgs doesnt mean much when you're car sucks too much to go anywhere
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021
"sure, id like to believe your cars are all-around better, by ill just go by the trustworthiness of first-hand experience."
Well actually, British cars are shit. Almost as bad as American cars (except British cars are more efficient fuel wise-check the stats yourself) . You need to compare power/weight ratios to fuel consumption to discuss efficiency accuratly, but im sure you knew that already.
Simple fact is this. Japanese & German cars are best.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 in an earlier comment, you showed how ignorant you were to why we drive pickups & SUVs (less than half of all cars on the road are either of the two). we have reasons for why we drive them you know. people who work for/own a utilities business, farmers, and people who are just always hauling stuff need pickups. parents who have to haul kids plus their stuff use SUVs. try stuffing 2 parents, 3 kids & all their stuff into a honda, it doesnt work well.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
that's funny, because there are plenty of other people around the world who manage to get their familys into cars under with 2 litre engines.
why is america special? you dont need a V8 to carry a family, unless it's a particularly fat family. MPV's carry 8 people and run on 2 litre diesel engines.
by the way, the Honda Accord Station Wagon is more than capable of carrying even an averagly fat american child, including 2 siblings and his fat parents as well.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 can you fit the whole family in when they've got gigantic backpacks full of books & 2 boys who have football gear? a honda accord cant carry that. maybe if you took out the spare tire & tire-changing kit, but then your screwed if you get a flat. not to mention an accord wouldnt cut it where i live. those things are gutless climbin the hill i drive up over everyday.
kinda funny that you call us all fat, yet if you came here you wouldnt see a single fat kid in my town. you=IGNORANCE
cripin2021 11 months ago
.@cripin2021 . And you still haven't told me which small car needs a specialist mechanic. Maybe you should deal with one issue at a time, because you're getting confused.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 in case you havent paying attention to my comments, i already told you: VW golf. ever try changing the tranny on one? my buddy tried to, but found that they had it bolted in with a very rare star-headed bolt. Gee, i wonder why that is.....oh wait, i know, so people cant work on them themselves and gotta take em to a mechanic.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Lol, the "rare star headed bolt" is called a torx head, and can be found on most German cars (and on Seat cars, and Skoda).
Yes, I have changed a transmission on a golf. And an a3. Both the same transmission. It's not a specialist mechanic you need, just a competent one.
Hahahahahaha specialist. It's a torx key, you thick fuck.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 in case you didnt know, torx head sockets arent exactly stocked in every auto parts store here in the US. we use basic hex head sockets. very few online auto parts stores even carry em, unless of course you look up european ones & shipping's gonna cost your arm & your dick.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Is your buddy who tried to repair the gearbox on his golf the same guy who mended the jetta?
If so,it would explain why the jetta takes 10 minutes to start.
I can tell by your language that you're not a mechanic or engineer.
You should stick to consuming petrol, and just admit you don't know shit about cars (or specialist tools).
By the way, the stretch bolts in the golf cylinder head use the same RARE tool.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 i dont speak like a mechanic, but that doesnt say shit about my knowledge of cars. very assumptive you are, but assumption leads to mistakes good sir. but then again, ignorant people tend to be very assumptive.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
And you missed my point again,retard.
Which is that yanks drive big inefficient cars, and the rest of the world doesn't,because we can't afford the fuel,cos you fat Cunts need 4 litre v8s to haul your fat kids around, as you can't fit them into an accord station wagon.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 this coming from the country that hasthe land rover & the Range Rover, a BIG HONKIN SUV with a giant V8? just face it tard, if anything youre just a scaled down more-ignorant version of US.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Very few people drive range rovers, dummy.
That and the rover v8 are probably the only v8s we ever made.
so your point is invalid, and ignorant.
And how is a Jaguar v12 a scaled down American car? How is a Morgan, or a noble a scaled down yank car?
Get some culture. It's people like you who make all Americans look dumb.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 oh right, yeah what rovers that arent sold just get put in a giant field to sit & rot. thats right. however the same applies here, look around town here & most of what you'll see will be a ford coupe or an import here & there. those of us who do have the bigger vehicles have bigger reasons for using them. you missed my point dumbass. you have scaled down jags & nobles, we have scaled down mustangs & buicks. if you're the one representing the brits, i pity you all.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
You should stop talking about cars. You obviously dont know much.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
Lol, specialist tool. You mean torx key Hahahaha
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
By the way ,land rovers have been around since the start of world war 2.
Unlike America.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
and you misunderstand me when i say SUVs and pickups. i meant ANY large engined car that isnt built for pure speed (and even american sports cars are inefficient).
fact is , americans drive big useless cars, because they CAN. while the rest of the world pays extra for YOUR usage. you moan about paying $3.50 a gallon or whatever. imagine paying $3.50 per litre, like the rest of the world, you wont be so fucking happy with your 15-20 MPG then.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 when you think SUV or pickup, are you thinking of the gas-guzzlers from back in the early 90's? all the ones now are gutless gas-sippers, just like the euros sent over here. some of the old ones are still on the road, but because their design is long-lasting & easy to maintain. mine for example, the 318 V8 never dies. ive seen "fuel-efficient" jap toyota & nissan pickups, in the junkyard that is.
truth is, euro's such as yourself are as ignorant as can possibly be.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021
There is no way that a v8 is as efficient as a small jap car.
What planet are you on. Just look at the mpg stats, you thick cunt.
And don't tell me there aren't any fat kids in your town. If there are 2 things Americans are renowned for, it'd being fat and illiterate.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .your love of american cars and your delusion that a v8 can be an efficient car, are all stemmed from the same bone-headed place: PATRIOTISM.
at least I can admit that the UK make shit cars. get your head out of your arse and experience what the rest of the world has to offer...
and tell me this: if yank cars are so efficient, how come you use most of the petrol in the world. you use more than China for fucks sake, why is that?
it's not yr "gas-sipping" v8s that's for sure.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 in case you're too retarded to pay attention, OVERALL efficiency doesnt just come from fuel-efficiency: it also comes from dependability & the need for less maintenance. the jap car takes the fuel-efficiency, however my truck takes the cake on dependability.
im not afraid to admit that our cars do have some problems (mustang), im pointing out that your cars arent a whole lot better because their problems are just the same, just in different places.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021
" the 318 V8 never dies"
Yet the ONLY engine to NEVER have any product recalls or reported failures of the VTEC system is the HONDA B-series engine.
I wonder why the 318 V8 isn't listed in those statistics....?
Maybe becuase the phrase "never dies" is bullshit, when talking about american cars. Why do you think that nobody else in the world drives them LOL.
guess how many yank cars are in my scrapyard? ZERO. cos nobody buys them in the 1st place.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 maybe its because they were only looking at gas-sipper engines? did you ever consider that?
nobody else in the world drives them? what the hell are you smoking? maybe if you plucky brits werent so ignorant you'd look up & see jeeps, chevys, & fords all around europe.
the difference between you & me is ive tried both american & import, and seeing both i prefer american. my scrapyard has toyotas & nissan pickups that couldnt keep up with my 318 dakota.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 By the way, you still haven't said which small car needs a special mechanic. Shame you can't name a single one, because it might just make you look less....ignorant.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 . The only fords in Britain are the focus and mondeo (made in Britain) and the only Chevrolet we see are the Chevrolet matiz, which as you know, is made in korea.
And basically nobody drives jeeps, cos they are inefficient, and we have land rovers. Maybe you should visit Britain, then you would be qualified to make such a comment.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 maybe look OUTSIDE of britain, you'll see that there are plenty more of our cars idiot. you dont speak for the other nations on planet earth.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .I have lived in 3 different countries, and visited a lot more than you, I can tell. American cars are number 1 in America only. Check the facts yourself.
But then in America, you need specialist mechanics and rare tools for small cars.
By the way,they use torx heads cos they're less prone to shear than basic Allen bolts. But I'm sure you knew that being the intelligent person that you are.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 gramps was stationed in london in the 60s & 70s, and tells stories of ignorant brits. i didnt believe that was true until i got into a debate with an ingorant brit such as yourself. you guys may have dominated the world a couple hundred years ago, but thats all over now.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Again, your boneheaded patriotism is shining through. I don't care if you insult my countrymen. By the way, I thing you are confusing ignorance with arrogance. The English may be a cold, arrogant nation, but they can't be called ignorant. Funny how 1/3 of Americans can't read above 3rd grade level, and most of you don't own a passport. And most of you can't even point to Iraq on a map.
Yeah, we're the ignorant ones.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@ClaraMassa1 i admit i have met one or two brits that have a decent head, but so many of you ive met on here turn out to be just like yourself.
that whole rest of your comment, did you read that off the back of one of your teabag boxes? or is that where you get all of your facts?
cripin2021 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
Hey, you seem like a smart person, I need some advice...one of my indicator relays are broken, and I need to remove the glove box to mend it, except it is fastened on with a SUPER RARE star headed bolt. I was wondering if you know of any specialist mechanics who could help?
Oh, my mistake, its just a torx bolt, I can buy the tool from halfords for about £5.
Google "torx bolt", and you will see how rare it isn't.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 .
and the Honda B-16 engine is the only engine in the history of motoring to have had no product recalls or reported design flaws .
that is a FACT. so you can trust your "experience", but tell me one thing...did the same mechanic who "regularly maintained" your aunt's Jetta (which still takes 10 minutes to start) tell you that you need a "specialised mechanic" to repair small cars? cos to be honest, you sound a bit gullible.
ClaraMassa1 11 months ago
@cripin2021 . By the way, most people who drive further use diesel, in small (specialist) cars.
Hence, more efficient.
And there are plenty of people who commute, so you really have no idea of peoples average distances.
America uses more fuel, because they need 4 litre suvs to carry their fat greedy asses.
ClaraMassa1 1 year ago
what car is that??
seroboy007 1 year ago
I wonder if running the exhaust pipe through the middle of the WVO tank (sealed of course) would pre-heat it enough.
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16462217973 1 year ago
Fine, but what if temperature drop to -20C ?
Irek1970 1 year ago
@Irek1970 use 2 tanks. start car on biodiesel.after veggie oil is warm switch tank over to pure veggie oil.
rocknrolldaddio 1 year ago
funny thing is that the diesel engine was meant to run on vegitable oils
themadscientest 1 year ago
@themadscientest well i dont know about regular diesel, but biodiesel is basically just processed veggie oil.
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 its a prosess that removes the glycerin from it, its simple to do with easy to get stuff (heet fuel treatment and drain unclogger) just look up the recipe!
themadscientest 1 year ago
@themadscientest and to think that we're still using gasoline when we could easily run it on this (heet &drain unclogger are 2 things i have in my house right now). if i could afford to get a new car i'd just get a diesel car or truck & run it on that.
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 ok, look up the instructions take 5x the precautions and if you do it its at your own risk so you cant sue me if you go blind from methanol or get a lye burn (btw it has to be the dry unclogger not the liquid i use zep from homedepot the same place i get paint for my art)
themadscientest 1 year ago
@themadscientest sounds quite risky
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 really it isnt but take a bunch of precautions (face, eye, apron and dust mask) and its at your own risk so u cant sue me!
themadscientest 1 year ago
@themadscientest trust me, im not one of those douchebags that sues. i believe in a little thing called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. i laugh at the people who sued mcdonalds for making them fat, & i tell them "you didn't have to eat the burger, you knew it was unhealthy".
cripin2021 1 year ago
@cripin2021 good, because im broke and need the cash for spraypaint to do a legal mural.
themadscientest 1 year ago
@themadscientest lol
cripin2021 1 year ago
what if you mix filtered veggie oil with regular diesel in the normal tank?
ankurtolia12 1 year ago
@ankurtolia12 its fine
B13KYL 1 year ago
@ankurtolia12 thats even better.
europe0wnz 1 year ago
but is most expensive the bottle of V-oil
SpeedMetal4635 1 year ago
I apologize for so many messages, but this information can be very important. Just plan wisely, find a restaurant and get some free oil, filter that stuff, and away you go! I have an 11 gallon tank for diesel, and an 11 gallon tank for the veggie oil in my trunk. Just an old plastic fuel tank with holes drilled in and hoses in them. That oil spills, so watch out! Seats absorb it easy, lol. Last thing: Oil will not rust. Veggie oil is just that: Oil. it lubricates. Happy Frying!
bertharogan 1 year ago
None of this will harm the engine. My car has 425,000 actual miles on the original engine and trans, and has spent most of those miles on veggie oil and biodiesel. Go green, right? LoL One nice thing on my pump, is I have a fuel mixture adjustment. I can regulate how much flows into the injectors, and the less goes in, the easier it is on the engine until the oil is warmed up. Before I shut off the car, I switch back to diesel to clear out the veggie oil for easier starting next time.
bertharogan 1 year ago 2
You can run engine oil, transmission fluid, veggie oil, biodiesel, any of these in a diesel, if it's filtered properly. I take my engine oil and trans fluid to a .5 micron filter to be safe. Word of caution: Newer diesels have an infrared sensor to detect what is going through. If it sees the wrong color or viscosity, you can burn up the pump, my cousin went through a couple. Mechanical pumps are fine. For the sulfur free diesel, careful - the sulfur lubricates the pump, you need that.
bertharogan 1 year ago
Oil is thick, so when cool does not flow well. Heat it up? EXCELLENT. Now, don't get me wrong, the setup does not have to be so elaborate. But this setup is useful for cooler weather, for you will have an amazingly hard time starting up the engine on cold veggie oil. Make sure it's water free, for water will get in and seize up your injector pump and clog your injectors (personal experience). An addition: The reason a diesel can run on oil is because it runs on compression.
bertharogan 1 year ago
What I have set up is an electric sylenoid to switch between fuel systems. One is the regular diesel, and the other is the vegetable oil. Both tanks have a return line, so I use a five port sylenoid from a mid-nineties ford. I have the veggie oil run through a heater block, which branches off of the heater core and uses the radiator fluid to heat the oil flowing through. I run the engine til it's warm and then switch over to vegetable oil so it enters the engine hot.
bertharogan 1 year ago
davemortensen, I compliment you! I run vegetable oil in a 1986 VW Golf with a 1.6L diesel. She has a mechanical, belt driven injection pump. I will make a couple suggestions, if you don't mind. Filter any used veggie oil before adding it to the tanks, and also have a filter right before the injection pump. I would not advise running the oil in your regular fuel tank.
bertharogan 1 year ago
is this the same stuff as olive oil and sunflower oil? is there any difference? cheers :)
dasmonkeyman 1 year ago
I heard you have to add a bottle of white spirit for every 5 gallon of cooking oil so it thins it out slightly like diesel. I would love to try it on a old diesel first if i got me hands on one. Also i think the mix of white spirit stops it from freezeing
finno123456 1 year ago
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Lordjoda69 1 year ago
that was a little strange i though you had to filter the oil to use in diesel engine? but that was cool.
fridaynightovernight 1 year ago
In Spain at the minute,at my local supermarket they have an offer of 59 cents per litre of cooking oil!!!!!!!!!!
On a buy two,get three offer.I bought 99 litres LOL!!!!
Also like to add that i have been running my diesels of cooking oil for over five years now and i change all of my filters each year as a matter of principle and have found no adverse effects at all.Just have to mix 50/50 during the winter or better yet 25 cooking oil/75 diesel.
stuartsbushcraftblog 1 year ago
In Spain at the minute,at my local supermarket they have an offer of 59 cents per litre of cooking oil!!!!!!!!!!
On a buy two,get three offer.I bought 99 litres LOL!!!!
stuartsbushcraftblog 1 year ago
It's true you can run a diesel engine on vegetable or any other type of household cooking oil but it's only economical if you can get used oil for free and refine it to remove all the impurities. New oil off the shelf at the supermarket is far more expensive to buy per litre/gallon than diesel at the filling station.
Voxson1 1 year ago
Not around here.
in the Netherlands diesel costs over 1 euro per liter
sunflower cooking oil at the supermarket is around 80 cents.. cheaper if you shop around.
fragwits 1 year ago
If you run out of fuel, just knock at the door of the closest house and ask for a liter of cooking oil.. :-) I'm running mine on the cheapest new cooking oil in the winter and it runs as if i was running it on normal diesel. I own a Lupo SDI 1999 very cheap to run already, now one more reason to keep it!
SergioBlackDolphin 2 years ago
Busted? Given the limitied thermal effeciencies of these types of engines? What?
The man is crazy: how many full sized luxury cars get 33 mpg? Hello?
I have a VW 350,000 miles runs on straight veg since 290,000.
jackfortunato 2 years ago
No problem
nifur1 2 years ago
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why use a stupid veg oil while motor oil is more cheaper...
jhayem12 2 years ago
motor oil has finer carbon particles in it, contains heavy metals, stinks real bad, and is mildly carcinogenic.
jackfortunato 2 years ago 8
because oil is not renewable, thus it's not fun to use.
Mondafied 2 years ago
yea volvo xc 60 is completly running with no trouble
mnykruudbyrdvn 2 years ago
where did you hear that?
Pyramidtank 1 year ago
@Pyramidtank He is correct. Virgin cooking oil in the United States is FAR MORE EXPENSIVE than diesel fuel! Now, WVO, or waste vegetable is FREE from restaurants that will give it to you.
chemo38 1 year ago
@chemo38 Ah, not exactly free, unless you talk someone into giving it to you for free. Many places that I have encountered get several hundred dollars every several months for their vegetable oil. But none the less I can get about 3000 gallons free annually and have more oil then I can burn.
Delticola 1 year ago
Has anyone tried running their Volvo xc60 or xc90 on veg oil?
dickiedaycase 2 years ago
I run my Fiat Punto TD with oil by 2003, and with Waste veg oil from 2006.
Few modifications, 120'000km without any problem.
It starts and run only with veg-oil or mix of veg and other thngs in the tank.
In winter (I live in the Alps, so cold) it starts without problems with 18°C below zero.
In tank at that tme 95% rapeseed oil, 4.2% unleaded gasoline, 0.3% acetone and 0.5% of an additive made by Rothen for cold starts.
dadoVRC 2 years ago
waste vegetable oil is much cheaper than straight one but the waste one need to be filtered, it also can be used as engine oil as well
josephtan1818 2 years ago
How would oil rust an engine?
GMR06 2 years ago 4
I heard somewhere that it rusts the engine???
CptDieHard 2 years ago
I completely fucked with my CITROEN ZX 1.9 TD doing it!!! I would advise anyone tring this not to fill up the tank with straight WVO (waste vegetable oil) as it will make your pump to fail in less than 1000 miles, BOSH pumps are better than LUCAS and others but WVO is a bit too heavy to become gas in the injectors, however if you heat the oil at 80c you will get more MPG and won't cause any damage to your pump, the best way is to have 2 tanks and only use WVO when the oil and engine are HOT!!!
mitchellgonzalez 2 years ago
you filtered it and heated it right?
MockStoneLLC 2 years ago
did you do 100% vegetable oil
you r suppose to do like 50%diesel and 50% vegetable oil oil
Jorge50505 2 years ago
did you filter the oil cause its works in my mercedes 300d
yomasux 2 years ago
You're supposed to have a fully heated flowpath for the oil. The guy I saw with a veggie van had to start the car with diesel(biodiesel optional) and turn it off with diesel. The reason for this being is while the waste veg oil will run perfectly fine in the engine, it congeals when it cools. He would simply start up his van as normal, til the engine heated up, then he would flick a switch on his dashboard. I did not know it was that simple. It was shockingly simple. Why go the biodiesel route.
Bluefoxking 2 years ago
so all i need to convert my 7.3 turbo diesel is get a pump and thats it i got a tank in the bed theres nothing you have to do to the engine to get it to brun special glow plug or heater or anything
fordboy111591 2 years ago
why not just pour the oil into the tank?
COBmyband 2 years ago
gee, never thought of that.But thinking about it now, maybe fuel pump makers designed fuel pumps extra strong to handle veggie oil just in case anybody did this, or maybe injector makers designed them to handle thick, sticky oil, rather than nice runny diesel.Then again maybe not.Maybe millions of pounds spent on making biodiesel is totally wasted and all you need do is pour veggie oil into your tank.I leave the choice to you.
davemortensen 2 years ago 5
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COBmyband 2 years ago
Filtered Veggie oil though
COBmyband 2 years ago
although most diesel cars can run on veggie oil,preferably filtered and de-watered, they do not like it.If you pre-heat the oil, it gets really very runny and burns much better.We run numerous cars on veggie oil but always either with a fuel pre heater or using biodiesel which is veggie oil that has been chemically refined to make it like fossil diesel
davemortensen 2 years ago
I start the car and run it on diesel; when it is warmed up and I made a heat exchanger can running the engine coolant through it to heat the veg. oil. Car runs fine. You have to filter the oil and remove the junk in it. I made a centrifuge and it handles a gallon at a time.
menahunie007 2 years ago
@davemortensen You commented that diesel cars "do not like it" refering to vegetable oil. I've known lot's of diesel cars and trucks and none of them have ever told me they "do not like it." I wonder what Rudolf Diesel would say about vegetable oil, I wonder if he would say I "do not like it." I believe he would say, Petroleum, I "do not like petroleum."
Delticola 1 year ago
@Delticola You are right. Rudolf Diesel ran his engine on peanut oil!
chemo38 1 year ago
@chemo38 this is very true something that not many people know .... why?
BenBen808 1 year ago
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Lordjoda69 1 year ago
@davemortensen what nonsense are you talking about warmer corn oil burns better. if it burns it burns. when it hits the engine bay it get warm. you do NOT need to mod. any car to run corn oil. all you have to watch out for is if the car has an O2 sensor. and you might have a couple cars that run on it, we own 3 diesel mercedes that run on it (unmodded) and have been for 5+ years. i have put ATF fluid, motor oil, corn oil, peanut oil and every other oil in my car. and she runs on it.
europe0wnz 1 year ago
Is it possible to use a oil heater and filter the oil before you put it in the tank?
Petchhyy 2 years ago
@Petchhyy I wouldn't...just put in-line filters on the fuel lines and a 9 volt electric pump to move the WVO to fuel injectors. Very easy and reliable!
chemo38 1 year ago
umm i pour it straight into the tank of my Mercedes-Benz 300d and it works fine sooooooo yes biodiesel is kinda a wast of money
yomasux 2 years ago
@davemortensen Damn dude. You didn't have to be an asshole! xD The guy was just asking a question.
thatdude2212 1 year ago
@davemortensen that is how easy it is. people are wasting millions of dollars on biodiesel. look at my video's. my car has no mods whats so ever, and i have been running straight corn oil since i was 16. pour it in my tank, and drive. people over analize everything, and you know what you get? wasted 10 million dollars on an idea when your neighbor did it twice as fast and easy. (keep this in mind. theres always some 1 smarter then you.) once again, check out my video.
europe0wnz 1 year ago
bcuz he want to prove it fully
ZEDROGANA 2 years ago
The problem with VO it can and does attack parts of the engine. EG certain fuel pumps for example and can result in a fuel sludge which will require a clean out if not change of fuel line line.
blackadderthe4 2 years ago
Yeah SVO isn't good to run often, but is definetly a freakin' awesome way to take a road trip!
Ventonator 2 years ago
you know that you can just put the oil in your fuel tank?
orbah1 2 years ago
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Hrothulf19 2 years ago
yeah to jest prawda ;)
polecam ale jak olej drozszy od ropy puki co to hujowo ;)
ale super energia przyszłosci
adamm666 2 years ago
this was stolen from a black man in africa
vic7777777777 2 years ago
You're a dumb ass for not running the veg oil through a filter... good way to damage the injection pump.
and for the engine to consume less, it must be tuned for veg oil - you need larger injector nozzles, and adjust the engine timing. Electronic diesels will do this automatically though...
harryfodder 3 years ago
It looks like it was pre-filtered. Looked pretty clear even with the brown color. I dont think anyone would bitch about less fuel economy if their fuel was free.
akshona 2 years ago 2
Doesn't matter how you filter that stuff. You ALWAYS need a filter to make sure no dirt gets into the injection system. Not having a $5 filter could cause you over $1000 worth of work to an otherwise good running car. Is that the kind of risk you want to take? Maybe if the car was a beater, and you couldn't care less...
harryfodder 2 years ago
you know, car manufacturers fit a fuel filter just before the fuel pump just in case any muck gets into the fuel. If you put in unfiltered veggie oil, you will need to change that filter more often than if you put in filtered oil!!!! Either way, nothing much gets through the manufacturer's filter, that's what it's there for and that's what it does!!!
davemortensen 2 years ago
the OE filter is about 10-15 microns... a ton of crap will either get through or clog that filter.
i didn't get to fully examine the pipe routing, and don't really care but if you ran the veg through the OE filter then you're okay for the most part. there is only ONE fuel filter in a diesel. the rest are simply screens located in the injection pump, and the fuel tank. but thats just vw, others may vary.
harryfodder 2 years ago
I do not recommend using more diesel or bio fuel than that because it starts smoking at start up. I ran 70/30 gas/diesel in a lawnmower for a while to experiment, and it fouled the carburetor with wax from the diesel fuel that gelled in the bowl, and fouled a couple plugs. But it ran hard!
stopglobalswarming 3 years ago
I have a fuel injected 99 Impala. All the gasoline here is 10-25% ethanol and a little water sometimes (lazy station owners). Since they added the ethanol in TX gas, my mileage dropped from 28 to 20-24. I have been adding 1 gallon of Diesel (which is probably 10-25% "bio products" like fat and corn oil) and it runs better and accelerates much harder, idles better. So far it has not plugged any filters or fouled plugs.
stopglobalswarming 3 years ago