Battlestar Galactica The Final Cylon Revealed

[lendial]

did his detector ever work?

[eswyatt]

The problem is, it was never established that the Baltar test was effective for the final five, who were of different origin. I'm assuming he didn't know and was just effing with her.

[zakfmt]

this is how i knew.

also, the scene in tigh me up tigh me down when they are having dinner with the adamas and roslin and someone says something about cylons. the whole room goes silent. then ellen says "boo," both ellen and saul burst out laughing. the rest of the room remains silent.

[TheoryInSplitting]

That scene, another where Virtual/Angel Six leans over Baltar while he talks to Saul and Ellen and Six says, "Watch this one." There was also another but I can't remember as of now.

[antred11]

@zakfmt God that scene was hilarious ... I was laughing my ass off. "tigh me up tigh me down" was probably the funniest episode of BSG.

[Ardenwolfe]

It just goes to show how good the writers on the show are.

Wolfe

[phoenix1421]

Except that Baltar's test wouldn't work on any of the 5 because they don't respond to radiation the way the other cylons do, which was the basis for the test. So in theory, her test would have actually read negative for being a cylon, but I might be wrong.

[wizjac95]

If you watched the mini seris it took up to 3 hours for cylons to respond to radiation and they got the guns and got straight out Leoben was in there for 24 hours

[TheoryInSplitting]

Wow . . . That had to have been the biggest hint. How could I have missed that? I did have an idea about Ellen being the fifth but I didn't think, then, that it would have played out well. But seeing that it did, it was kind of tragic and poetic in a sense.

[83yattic]

i thought RDM said that he already told the her (the actress) that she will be a cylon from the very beginning.

[swoganrich]

If ellen is the fifth cylon, it's lame. Why not have Mr. Data, Robbie the Robot or "Warning Warning" Robinsons robot show up instead. At least it would be funny.

[leisor]

would be a nice explanation if Moore didn't say in an interview that he only decided in the middle of the 3rd season that Ellen was the fifth.

[TrentSki80]

@leisor

It did feel like they threw that whole human cylon thing together last min, but it still worked out good if you ask me

[angie8721]

i don't remember who said it, but on one of these youtube boards i read a comment that said Ellen was the older version of the 6th...this would make sense I guess because Saul was attracted for some reason to 6 and now they're having a child together.

[jstark069]

I think everyone is a cylon, Starbuck did crash, but Ellen and the five figured out how to resurrect there is another kind of hub out there, probably on the real earth in the middleeast hence the whole "craddle of civilization" tag.

Oh, and why are so many people up in arms over Gaeta bein gay. Just use his name as the answer to a question. Example:

Hey, do you know the lieutenants sexual preference? Hoshii says, "Gay, Duh!!

[tanke77]

i completely agree

[tanke77]

WOW ALL OF YOU should watch the episode again and reaaaaaaly pay atention THEY ALL ARE CYLONS each and everyone in the fleet are cylons

[richiebabe24]

Would be kinda cool if they all were. Humans could have died out millenia ago and now its just a race of robots. The prophesies and the Cycle of Time could all then just be programming.

[SaganAppreciationSoc]

Interesting angle.

[doctorwhonico]

That would be a good climax!!

I have the same opinion. They probably forgot their own history...

[richiebabe24]

Should have left the last bit where he's spinning around in the chair like a nutcase.

So pissed that Ellen is the final Cylon - not a good choice.

[vicavox]

You must be one of the few that think that. Everyone else i've discussed it with has said it was a complete curve ball but that as these videos show the ground work has been laid, and because of her past relationship with Tigh it adds some spice to the occasion. There are few other people it could have been given Moore had made it clear the fifth wasn't in the "Last Supper" photo. You'll get over it richiebabe, and if you don't like it, you can stop watching.

[richiebabe24]

Wow, thanks for letting me voice my opinion in an open forum without making some pithy remark.

Yeah, a real curve ball. Just because something's a curve ball doesn't mean it's a good thing.

Oh and the 'ground work' is nothing more than coincidence. Moore has made no secret that he only plans the show one series at a time.

Maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves anyway. The whole thing could still be misdirection. If Ellen's the fifth, what does that make Starbuck?

[vicavox]

Boring character? I'm guessing you've all forgotten how she was trying to manipulate Tigh to take totalitarian control of the fleet back at the start of Series 2? But everyone's forgotten about that. Also these moments with Baltar come to roost. Moores only plans the show one series at a time, but he's left many moments like these throughout just in case he decides to go along that road. Plus Starbuck isn't a Cylon she's the "harbinger" her role could be even more innocently sinister.

[richiebabe24]

When in any of my previous comments did I describe Ellen as 'boring'? She's anything but. If you're going to put words in my mouth then you must consider your position too weak to stand up to scrutiny.

So Starbuck crashed on Earth and died, then came back from the dead - yeah, you're right, sounds nothing like a Cylon.

This is the first time BSG has really disappointed me. It would have been much better to have Karas father as the final Cylon and her as a hybrid a far better curve ball.

[vicavox]

May sound like a Cylon, but then we don't know for sure that the carcass was infact Starbuck's, we just know that the dog tag around the skeletons neck belonged to her. I've always maintained that there will be something relevant with the numbers i.e. 12 and 13, and with the 13th tribe being Cylons fits my theorum. If you don't like the twist then you're entitled to your own opinion, i'm just saying having Starbucks father as the 13th? That's descending too far into the realms of fanboydom...

[vicavox]

...it just wouldn't click...and would only subscribe to your belief that not every curve ball would be a success..I think having the final cylon be someone like that would have completely destroyed the shows integrity because Kara being a hybrid would destroy the continuity of Hera being the first of the "new race". Just let it play out there's more to come yet, so don't make your judgments on a minute revelation clip, see where they'll go first. Starbucks issue is yet to be resolved...patience.

[dsperlin]

What if all this time, she's been an apparition or an angel? If Ellen is the last cylon, then idk what the hell Kara is. Unless, maybe she's Ellen reincarnated.

[SaganAppreciationSoc]

If Starbuck's anot a toaster, how do you explain her finding her dead self on that planet- Earth?

Although the planet where she blew up with Apollo watching didn't look much like Earth.

And who rebuilt her white Viper? Who sent her back with no memory of the crash? Those angelic beings from the original 70's BSG?

Maybe everyone is the 5th Cylon.

[vicavox]

I can't explain anything after one episode, in which not only do we find out who the final cylon is, but also that the entire 13th tribe were Cylons as well. I need to see how things develop, as we all do. It's a possibility "everyone" is a fifth but I think that would be too much of a cop out, I think we've established there is a difference between Cylon and Human due to "Head Six's" prophecies about Hera and the start of the "new race". So as interesting a concept I think that won't...

[vicavox]

...happen as that WOULD be a cop out, even more so than some people feel about the revelation of Ellen as the fifth. There'll be something more in regards to Starbuck...I can't say what yet, but there is every chance that the body in the viper wasn't actually hers, however implausible that may sound. The phrase "Harbinger of death" as told by the Hybrid is important as it had Leoben running scared.

[zanetusken]

ya everyone is a cylon

[musicalglenn]

sagan..that's my theory....i reckon the ultimate season finale is all off the fleet/colonists turn out to be cylon...and perhaps even there never were humans but cylons dreaming of humans?