Review - The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles

[MultiWootwoot1]

Im gonna take your points and reverse them on you now.First its an add on not a remaster so voices wont change. the graphics were revolutionary for the time it was made.Second the madness armor is slightly better than daedric and just as hard to obtain because you need the matrix to make it and the weapons are leveled with your character. Another point i'm throwing out is skyrim is the easy one ask any elder scrolls player now that ive put holes in your review how you feel.

[4RealPlaying]

BTW: you should not realy make a review for something unless you want it. Because since you did this 100% for the viewers and you didn't want to play this you came into it with a negative thought. I bet this expansion would have gotten a much higher score from you if you bought this because you wanted to.

[DWTerminator]

To the contrary, I went into this hoping it'd remedy Oblivion's problems. It didn't, so I didn't enjoy it. When people request reviews it's often for games that I don't have or wouldn't normally get; doesn't mean I won't enjoy the game.

[4RealPlaying]

You know this is an expansion pack right?

An expansion pack does not change the grapics or sound quality (Excluding the voic-acting). An expansion pack espessially for an RPG is just a pack with new quests and items, the graphics are not improved until the next instalment in the series, this is a fact in ALL games.

[DWTerminator]

Yes, I know what an expansion pack is. I've been gaming for quite a long time now.

[xxxvulturexxx]

Once I went to Shivering Isles in this game I never wanted to go back to ciradel... seriously, just way better atmosphere.

[HaloZero147]

How are the characters generic?? you make a lot of statements in your reviews without backing them up with facts. For instance, you mention that the story is not well writen, yet do not explain why you fell that way.

[DWTerminator]

Explain to me at what point Shivering Isles' story engrosses and rewards the player for sticking to it instead of wandering around doing the side quests.

[nibelung34343]

skyrim,morrowind,daggerfall and oblivion for me

[143951]

oblivion is my favorite game of all time even above morrowind for several reasons. i was drawn into it right away

[PurpleHoneyBear]

I loved Morrowind, but I couldn't get into Oblivion. I tried many times, but I felt like the game was a chore to TRY to enjoy. And when that happens, you have to ask yourself, "why am I playing this?"

[DWTerminator]

That's pretty much exactly the problem I had with it.

[mainkilla]

@PurpleHoneyBear Felt that after getting my ass beat in OOO. There just wasn't enough quest content to level up to face the new difficulty the mod introduced so I gave up.

[GTXMAN]

The elder scrolls survives cuz of the mod community,thats about it.Take it away and there is nothing left (a console action "rpg").

[DWTerminator]

To be fair, Daggerfall is actually quite an excellent open-world RPG. 

[SubShadow123]

I like how when you gave it a 2/5 stars you played the music that plays when you die.

[DWTerminator]

Ironically that was completely coincidental.

[SubShadow123]

@DWTerminator XD Btw great review, i always felt that without some kind of mod installed, the game became very dull and boring even though it has a well built system that was designed to help it not be boring.

[mrteemumilto]

Bethesda should read this review. But I doubt they would care, because they have made a series of abysmal Star Trek games. I think they have no talen!

[DWTerminator]

They wouldn't care since Oblivion is still their highest-selling game ever, only to be unseated by Skyrim, I'm sure.

They had talent back in the 90's... but lost it all after Morrowind. I have no idea what happened to them.

[mrteemumilto]

@DWTerminator It's called the neoliberal economic reform that forced them to join the aggressive profits race along with EA and Activision ;)

[DWTerminator]

At least EA still releases some titles worth playing though. With Activision it's nothing but Call of Duty and Bethesda keeps releasing crapfest after crapfest. You want the ultimate in stupidity, though, go with Ubisoft.

[mrteemumilto]

This review is true. It is not good just because it is sold and promoted by a gaming company.

[Trusteft]

Finally another one who agrees with me, Oblivion=boredomfest.

Although the graphics is what annoy me even more with the game. Everything things fine up close, then from 6 meters and further away, it's VGA country.

Or all the humans looking alike and sound alike.

Or the auto leveling of the enemies.

etc

Shivering islands looks great for those who liked the base game. At least terrain design feels a bit better.

It makes me wonder if I should bother with V or not.

[DWTerminator]

From what I've seen of Skyrim, it's Oblivion only even more dumbed-down and even more of a hack n' slash. I'd say don't bother with it just yet.

[Trusteft]

@DWTerminator Yeah I am afraid of that. But I still have some hope.

I can't wait to finally finish King's Bounty (gets tedious later on) and start one proper rpg.

[DWTerminator]

I still need to get King's Bounty, actually. I'm sure with a game that long though it's bound to get tedious by the end.

[Trusteft]

@DWTerminator I am not sure I would recommend KB any more. There is not a very strong story, the battles are fun and wonderous the first 100 times but then they get very, "let's finish this".

My guess is I am about 3/4 of the game in and I have stopped having fun. I am 50-50 between uninstalling the game, or pushing myself to finish it.

It's not a matter of overpowering enemies (doesn't always happen). It's that, I can't take it any more. ok, I HAVE HAD IT! off with its head! ty DWTerminator.

[DWTerminator]

It's definitely not a game for all players, much like, say, Arx Fatalis or The Temple of Elemental Evil.

And you're welcome, I suppose.

[Trusteft]

@DWTerminator Have you played the IMO great Arcanum? It had many many battles. I never got bored with it or the battles. (I always choose turn based battles when a game lets me)/ And it's a game I have spend, many hours, many more hours than KB. Yet, I couldn't take it any more with KB. I uninstalled it.

I hope that I will like both Arx Fatalis and TOEE you mentioned because I recently bought them (GOG).

For now, NFS Carbon,then in a couple of days a new game with an RPG. :)

[DWTerminator]

Of course I've played Arcanum. It's still my favorite RPG of all time, and for good reason, as you probably know.

As for Arx and ToEE, prepare yourself for tons of frustration. Arx is unabashedly a modern hardcore dungeon crawler in the style of Ultima Underworld, while ToEE is simply one of the most difficult games I've ever played.

Also, bah, racing games. -_-

[Falagar517]

One question though. You mentioned near the end that with oblivion that the dungeons felt "generic" and cut and paste, but didn't you get that feeling in Daggerfall? Too me, they seemed more cut and paste in that game. As randomised as they were, they still looked and felt the same. They actually felt more like leveled mazes than dungeons too me. This is all in restrospect mind you, but even at the time, what dungeons looked like this?

[DWTerminator]

I cut Daggerfall some slack because of hardware limitations at the time. If they had tried to code in every dungeon as 100% unique, the game would've been FAR buggier as well as far larger in terms of space requirements.

[Falagar517]

@DWTerminator Point taken :D. Anyways, even though you didn't dig Oblivion as much, I still find your reviews (including Oblivions) quite compelling to watch LOL. Now that is a very good sign of an excellent reviewer if the person watching is still captivated by a negative review of a game. Love your design and you have an excellent voice. Maybe you should put out mini-LPs (LP's are Lets Play videos which basically show you playing the game like a movie. Check out Gixg17, he has great ones)

[DWTerminator]

I already do LP's in case you didn't notice (finished Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Chapter 1 of Castle of the Winds, and I'm working on Mass Effect right now). As for "mini-LP's" I dunno of any games I have that are short enough for that.

As for the reviews, glad you like them.

[grekor84]

@DWTerminator when i get out of the sewers it wont give me "the strange door" quest, but i have the dlc installed :(

[DWTerminator]

It doesn't give it to you right away. You'll need to wait until a day or two after you've left the sewers before it triggers.

[grekor84]

@DWTerminator ya i already new that part so i left the sewers waited 24 hours 2 times, but nothing :(. BUT when i used to own this game for the 360 it gave it to me right after the emporer was killed.

[DWTerminator]

That's kinda weird... Make sure you have it checked in the "Data Files" menu.

[grekor84]

@DWTerminator I do, nights of the nine and EVERY other available DLC currently for oblivion work but shivering isles wont appear, another funny thing is, besides knights of the nine (which u have to travel t ocomplete) every other dlc starts before im even out of the sewers.

[DWTerminator]

Ok that's just odd. Try uninstalling Shivering Isles, then reinstalling it. If that doesn't work, maybe there's a fix online or something.

[grekor84]

@DWTerminator How do i un then re install on pc? oh and once i uninstall shivering isles i need a site to re-download it.

[DWTerminator]

So, if I'm right in assuming here... you've pirated Shivering Isles? If so, that might be the reason it won't work (and why you'll have a hard time uninstalling it - just go in and find all the Shivering Isles files and delete them, if you can't find an uninstall function in the add/remove programs control panel thingamabob for Shivering Isles.).

[grekor84]

@DWTerminator pirate something as amazing as the shivering isles?!??!??!? i am ashamed in you! lol jk anways, no i just have the GOTY edition, it came with knights of the nine and isles, ..i did however pirate all the smaller dlc, BUT shivering isles wasnt working before then either.

[851852093114208513]

@DWTerminator I actually pirated the game AFTER having bought it. SecuROM friggin' hates my computer. It's like, "Oh, you have visited the friggin' Daemon Tools website, sorry, your legitimately bought copy of the game won't work."

[DWTerminator]

I'm honestly fine with people pirating a game if they've legally bought it as long as the reasons for which they're getting the pirate copy are legitimate (eg. the game doesn't work because of disc/DRM problems). If you're pirating it just for the sake of being a freeloader though than I frown upon that.

[Falagar517]

I guess I dug Oblivion a bit more that you LOL. I'd give it a 4.5 out of 5. If you found it too easy you could always bump the difficulty slider all the way to the right :P.  I know found Daggerfall the best in the series and I like it just as much as the next fan, but I guess now in retrospect I'd have to give it a 3.5 - 4 / 5. It seemed repetitious and world looked bland. I could walk the world for hours and days, but there's nothing to see. You're a great and professional reviewer though

[DWTerminator]

I put the difficulty all the way up in Oblivion and the game was STILL far too easy. When something is far too easy, it's far too boring. When it's far too boring, you have a massive problem.

It's not a good game by any means. The story's weak, the characters are bland, the setting is too generic for its own good, the gameplay is too dumbed-down and far too easy, its barely playable due to bugs, the quests are monotonous, and that all adds up to Oblivion being a piece of junk. -_-

[mainkilla]

@DWTerminator My thoughts, and they also used modified Morrowind buildings in the Shivering Isles environment.

[RiotNoobs]

Yeah I agree with most of the review, but I found the expansion pack + Oblivion itself a lot more fulfilling. The thing is, a whole lot of people loved Oblivion, and a lot of criticism comes from those who have played its predecessors. You should definitely take on a comparison of all 4 games of the series! Oh, and I can't wait for Skyrim.

[DWTerminator]

I may do a comparison, but I doubt it'd be any time soon. Still have to review the expansions for Morrowind anyway.

[DukeNukern]

nigga you must be trolling.

[DWTerminator]

Nope.

[VERONESEDAN]

man all you do is complain....no game is perfect... you should give up gaming

[DWTerminator]

Ye olde troll is obvious. -_-

[VERONESEDAN]

@DWTerminator

I bet you hated Demon souls as well....

[DWTerminator]

Haven't played it.

[VibratingChild]

@DWTerminator In a way I have to agree with Veronesedan on this. I have watched most of your reviews on the elder scrolls games and all you do is down them. If it wasn't your cup of tea at the beginning than drop the whole thing. Don't continue. And if you do continue don't post these pointless videos with your same review for a game in the same series as the rest of them. I am not trying to troll you. All I am doing is giving you a little help and criticism.

[DWTerminator]

I don't do nothing but "down them." Go watch my Morrowind review if you want proof of that. I just don't like Oblivion. Arena's extremely frustrating to get into, but once I got past that it's not too bad (though certainly not all that great). Keep in mind also that my review of Arena was one of my earliest. I still hadn't quite nailed my personal style yet.

And saying these videos are pointless just because they're of games in the same series is horribly ignorant. Makes you look like an idiot.

[VibratingChild]

@DWTerminator It's funny how you can call me an idiot after starting your reply with a double negative. I did watch your review on Morrowind, and all it is, is more of your it's ok in one aspect, although the rest is, and I quote,"Monotonous and altogether not all that fun." Tell me if that doesn't ring a bell. It is what you say about all of the elder scrolls games you have reviews about. That reminds me; you seem to praise Daggerfall so much, yet you still don't have a review for it.

[DWTerminator]

I didn't call you an idiot. I said it makes you *look* like an idiot.

I simply haven't gotten around to reviewing Daggerfall yet. It's not like I play it every waking minute or anything. As for praising it, yes, it's the best in the series. Doesn't make it "herp derp best RPG evar!" And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that all the TES games have similar problems.

I also seem to remember you saying "I am not trying to troll you." So if you aren't, then why *are* you trolling me anyway?

[VibratingChild]

@DWTerminator I am not trolling you. I am simply replying to your replies to me with criticism.

[DWTerminator]

I'm not getting the criticism feel from you. I'm getting the "I'm pissed off with you" vibe. -_-

[VibratingChild]

@DWTerminator Well if that is how you feel about it I can't change your opinionated judgement. Although I only offer simple criticism.

[DWTerminator]

Your simple criticism is that reviewing games in a series is pointless just because they tend to have the same problems. That's like saying "watching The Two Towers is pointless because it's the sequel to Fellowship of the Ring. They're the same movie." You know very well that's not the case. One reviews a game first as a separate entity, THEN as a sequel, after all.

At least you're not sitting there throwing curses at me like a child though, I applaud you for that.

[VibratingChild]

@DWTerminator I see what you mean by that. I could have worded it differently. I just wanted to state the case that most of the reviews for the games are similar. But I understand where I am wrong.

[DWTerminator]

Glad we have that settled then.

And yes, most reviews of games in a series are going to be similar. That's inevitable.

[VERONESEDAN]

man all you do is complain....no game is perfect...

[kris10ish]

i think nearly all your reviews u give gammes a shitty score whats the problem

[DWTerminator]

If you're counting 3/5 as a "shitty score," don't. That means "average." It's not great, but not bad either. I explained the scores on my channel anyway...

As for the majority of games I review not getting high scores... that's because they're not particularly great games. Not every game I play is fun. Some I have fun with but rate down because of playability or something particularly annoying. Maybe I should answer this in a Q&A video with some graphics to help explain it.

[kris10ish]

@DWTerminator oh ok

[mainkilla]

@kris10ish He gave the Witcher and Gothic a 4...

[Viper6351]

Would have done a more special review for my 200th but oh well!

[DWTerminator]

It's not my 200th review... Just my 200th video. I didn't notice that until afterward.

[MaMastoast]

I agree with this so much, oblivion and shivering isles were such disapointments... :/

[DWTerminator]

I don't mean that every dungeon looks the same. I mean that all the layouts pretty much are, so they all feel the same. It'd be good to have more variety, that's for sure.

Glad you like them.

[AshED65]

hey man what do you think of onlive

[DWTerminator]

Not sure. I need to look more into it. Might add this to my 1st Q&A video.

[DWTerminator]

Actually that title belongs to Daggerfall.

[masticina]

Once fallout 3 was on the PS3 I moved on. Really I am sorry to say but.. well yeah Oblivion just. It feels a bit odd.

[DWTerminator]

Fallout 3 suffers from a lot of the same problems Oblivion does. Combat works a bit better though.

[masticina]

@DWTerminator

Mmm in a way yes I guess at .least the post nuclear surroundings are a bit more interresting. And you have guns!

Though having played Fallout New Vegas I have to say one thing. I wish the guns in Fallout 3 we're more useful also outsight of VATS.

But yeah oblivion I tried to play the sneaky kind or the fire ball throwing kind. And almost always it end up in a simple reality that the easiest way to play is strength based. If you are a fighter you are going for it!

[DWTerminator]

The annoying thing about using guns in FO3 is the "zoom" function instead of ironsights. That's one thing that's always gotten on my nerves though (well... ever since Call of Duty) regardless of the game. I usually did just fine firing outside VATS. From what I've seen though, New Vegas's gunplay is a lot better.

Oblivion's one of those games where the semblance of being able to play the way you want is present, but the game always devolves into combat.

[masticina]

@DWTerminator

Yes the targeting under FO3 is not as good as F NV. Actually FNV with its true Iron sight yes still uses numbers to decide how much succes you have but at least it is usable now!

True that is the problem so I sneak into a place with marauders. Sneak Sneak Sneak Sneak! I listen in and get one of the marauders out of hearing range of the others. I get out my bow laced with poison..

And yet usually I still have to fight three or four marauders! By sword...

[DWTerminator]

Yep. I hate how no matter what you end up doing, you always have to fight your way out of everything. The whole point of having skills like speech is to get out of that sort of thing.

[masticina]

@DWTerminator

Yup

At least in New Vegas things are much better. I mean if a group hates your ass it is obvious why you shot all their friends! In oblivion though it is so basic.. "Oh I am group x so .. I dislike you"

[DWTerminator]

Yes, from what I've seen NV handles factions a lot better than TES4 and FO3 do, but it's still a fairly rudimentary system. They really should stop marketing FO3 and NV as RPG's and start saying they're FPS's though. That'd be much more appropriate.

[masticina]

@DWTerminator

Mmm you think a full blown Fallout RPG from the past could make it in these days?

[DWTerminator]

I'm sure it would, but it wouldn't have a huge number of sales.

[Karakta]

Ah well... *still waiting for a Daggerfall remake*... Oh God that would be orgasmic.

[DWTerminator]

If they remade Daggerfall, it'd probably be exactly like Oblivion.

The best we can hope for is for that 3D version (DaggerXL or whatever it is) to finish. That way Bethesda won't dumb the game down horrendously.

[Karakta]

@DWTerminator You're probably right. Higher resolution, dungeons you can actually get out from without using magic and perhaps more balance between might and magic (you really cannot play a 100% sorcrerer nor a 100% fighter and hope to complete the game...) would be really all I'd need to spend countless more hours into this masterpiece.

[DWTerminator]

Yes, the game's difficult, but it's not *that* difficult. I never need magic when I play Daggerfall (I play as a fighter all the time)... perhaps you're doing it wrong?

The balancing isn't as bad as you make it out to be. As for higher resolutions... eh, whatever floats your boat.

[Karakta]

@DWTerminator Daggerfall dungeons are notorious for being a pain in the neck if you don't use anchor/teleport. If you've found a way to deal with the dungeons without this spell then congrats but many other players were put off by that.

[DWTerminator]

Yes, they're labyrinthine, but that's something a lot of old RPG's have problems with, so it doesn't bother me much. Now don't get me wrong, I get lost quite often in Daggerfall's dungeons, but it's not as big a deal as you're making it.

[elobiretv]

oblivion was a bland generic landscape because that was what people wanted at the time, it made it more apealing to casual gamers who prefer a non complex environment.

[DWTerminator]

"Casual gamers" probably never played RPG's before Oblivion, so they wouldn't know what they wanted anyway. It just goes to show though how game developers are completely disregarding their fanbases and going for what they know will sell though.

I dunno 'bout you though, but I like having an interesting landscape. Gives me incentive to explore.

[BobbyRice2]

@DWTerminator

I much prefered Morrorwind, really really disliked Oblivion - for reasons you mentioned, I personally didn't feel like I wanted to explore. Though you may disagree, I still feel Morrowind was fantastically amazing game in the series, having played all of them!

[DWTerminator]

I much preferred Morrowind to Oblivion as well, though Daggerfall remains my favorite in the series.

[BobbyRice2]

@DWTerminator

Just occurred to me why I like your channel so much, and this is no way meant to insult.

It's really, quite like a bunch of nerds coming together and talking about games - rather than a reviewer going nuts, having hate in the comment & disrespect. Very rarely is hate spread on your page, as I say - nerds getting along! with all due respect! Keep it up, loving it.

[DWTerminator]

Ironic how my channel's got tons of conversation going on, but my forum's pretty much just an archive of sorts.

But anyway, glad you like it.

[BobbyRice2]

@DWTerminator

Never knew you had a Forum, so theres one potential posters reason, ha ha.

[DWTerminator]

Link's on my channel page and in every video description box...

[BobbyRice2]

@DWTerminator

Baah description boxxxxxxxxxx, nobody looks at theeeeeeem.

[DWTerminator]

Then you miss out on the links to the freeware games too.

[mainkilla]

@DWTerminator Morrowind first and Daggerfall second, due to Daggerfall's horrible automap and Morrowind's emphasis on exploration.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator oblivion was actually one of the first RPG games i have played. i liked the fact that we could relate to the game because it reminds us of a previous era of humanity.

i also found a great incentive to explore oblivion, i loved just finding caves and getting items that can only be found in them. granted that i loved exploring morrowind just as much due to its strange inviroment, but there was too little caves, just tombes.

[DWTerminator]

That's probably why you liked it... I've played many RPG's in my time, so an environment like Oblivion's is horribly generic and gives me little to no reason to explore it. I mean really, I can't count how many wolves, goblins, and bandits I've had my characters plow through or how many caves and tombs I've trudged through.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator they should have added more monsters into oblivion, i was also sick of fighting the same monsters. they also did need to keep weapons such as spears in the game, i cant imagine why they removed them.

i think its just due to the fact oblivion has a better fighting system is why i rather it more that morrowind. i also rather the voice acting,

[DWTerminator]

The combat system's certainly better than Morrowind's, but the problem is that it's a bit too dumbed-down. They probably didn't want to bother with special animations for crossbows, spears, etc., so they just removed them to make their jobs easier. Who knows for sure though? The voice acting's a bit weak as far as I'm concerned though, even compared to Morrowind.

Overall Oblivion's just a massive disappointment.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator having played oblivion first i cant really comment on morrowind.

what bethesda should do is make a game simular game like morrowind and add all the features they removed in oblivion.

i guess the only think we have to judge how good the new TES will be is the fallout series. it seems that bethesda is too focused on that at the moment, although if you look at it its basically what they would make the elder scrolls like.

[DWTerminator]

I certainly hope they don't make TES5 like FO3... It's worse than Oblivion in a lot of ways. Not to mention the fact that it completely betrays its source material...

What they need to do is take the Oblivion combat system, tweak it to require more finesse and have more emphasis on stats (since higher stats were practically useless in Oblivion), throw it in an interesting setting, write a good story (for once), make interesting characters and quests, and in general make the game more complex.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator i agree, making it like fallout would ruin the whole experiance. the new TES will most likely be set in skyrim, its the only place they have a decent storyline for at the moment. i wouldnt mind if it is, but it would be too much like oblivion with alot of it lore still in place.

[DWTerminator]

Bethesda has a habit of making references ingame to the area where the next TES game will be set. In Oblivion they reference the Sommerset Isles quite a bit, so that's probably where it'll be.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator i heared somewhere that they copyrighted the name skyrim, it would be the obvious use. there has also been rumors of it turning online because bethesda created a new online section in their company. i expect they will anounce it at E3 this year.

[DWTerminator]

Well of course they copyrighted Skyrim... it's part of their copyrighted setting of Tamriel. Just because something's copyrighted doesn't necessarily mean "that's gonna be it!"

I dunno. Even if they announced TES5 at E3 2011... I probably wouldn't care all that much anyway. They obviously care more about the "bottom-line" than actually making even a *good* game anymore.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator they actually only recently copyrighted skyrim. if they where to do it just because its in tamriel they would have done it ages ago.

they need to care just as much about how the game will sell because if only the old fans buy the game it wont be considered a success and bethesda wont make a profit. however they need to find a middle ground, they really should design a game around what the new fans (mostly fallout3 fans) want.

[DWTerminator]

Fans of Fallout 3 are enjoying a bland setting with a terrible sense of humor, a badly-written story and cast of characters, squandering of phenomenal actors, WAAAAAY too much combat, dungeons that are all the same, an unstable engine, generic quests, a weak companion system, and a game that's far too easy.

If they designed TES5 around all that... I wouldn't even bother. What they need is something complex, but accessible... which I doubt Bethesda could pull off anymore.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator

the main problem with fallout 3 was the weapons,after a while you couldnt find a new weapon. mele weapons where practically useless as well. i didnt find the voice acting too bad, although it wasnt excelent. but the main problem i had with it was that nearly all the actors where in oblivion.

i would still get it if its simular to fallout, but thats just because im a huge elder scrolls fan. what bethesda needs to do is take all the time they need when designing the new game.

[DWTerminator]

They took all the time they needed with Oblivion. Look how it ended up. -_-

Seriously, they need to actually learn from their mistakes, not repeat them. Fallout 3 is almost *nothing* like the original 2 Fallouts, which stand as two of the best RPG's of all time. And really, the Elder Scrolls series has gone downhill since Daggerfall. Morrowind wasn't as good and Oblivion was even worse. I have no hopes for TES5. Maybe that way it won't disappoint.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator i think your being too harsh on oblivion. yes it wasnt as good as it should have been, and the scenery was bland, but it was a decent game. i have played through it multiple times without getting bored.

i hope they do make the new one more like daggerfall.

[DWTerminator]

I played through it once and got massively bored in the middle of the playthrough. Tried different characters to see if it got better, and it didn't. So I went to mods, which made it at least decent.

I simply don't like Oblivion without mods. Even then, I don't like it too much. Therefore if TES5 is like Oblivion, I'll pass.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator i can see why you would think that. most of oblivion is simular, caves and dungeons are practically the same. i guess the only reason i rather oblivion is because its the first TES game i played, i just find that i know more about it than any other game.

i think im going to go play the rest of the games to see which i like more.

[DWTerminator]

Be warned: Daggerfall's a pain to get installed and running. Make sure to look up an install guide. Arena's much simpler. Actually my first TES was Morrowind, yet it's not my favorite in the series (Daggerfall is).

Also, "rather" is not a verb. Sorry, but that's just been bothering me. Can't help it. :S

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator i already have arena installed, but i barely played it. i cant figure out how to install daggerfall, il have another look once i completed arena.

sorry, its just the way i speak, it gets on my nerves as well sometimes.

[DWTerminator]

Speech can be annoying sometimes. Especially when we can't stop saying stuff like "y'know" or "like." -_-

Good idea though. Play through Arena, then see how much more they put into Daggerfall. It's really quite a jump.

[elobiretv]

@DWTerminator just tried arena out again and forgot how to attack. by the time i figured it out i died. its a really strange attack system.

glad they released the games as freeware, its better than trying to find them on ebay.

[DWTerminator]

Indeed. Arena's from the era where there was no such thing as a tutorial. You either read the manual or figured out how to play on your own. Once you get used to the combat mechanics it's actually not so bad though. Daggerfall uses a similar system, but it's slowed down.

And yes, it's nice to have them as freeware now. It'd be even nicer if they put the games on GoG so we could easily install and play them.

[ShapEile]

you should review fallout new Vegas because if you like fps games then you will like fallout new Vegas better than fallout 3

[DWTerminator]

Considering New Vegas plays so much like FO3 from what I've seen/heard/read, I'm definitely not getting it full-price. FO3 was nothing but a massive disappointment. It's one of those games that's gonna sit on my review request list for quite a while, since I've got many other games I'd rather get than it.

[menohaveaname]

You can make instant level up on PC if You change it in the .ini file.

[menohaveaname]

What type of games do You like? RPGs, FPS, etc.?

[DWTerminator]

Pretty much anything but racing and sports games.

[JackOFBlades111]

I, Disagree with this review.

[DWTerminator]

You're welcome to.