@hawkermustang. Ok mr. common sense, I gave you a number of chances to explain yourself & you behave like a troll. We believe in democracy. You appear to be against it. You suck the king's c@ck.-fine. We don't.
I'm not keeping your comments on my page as they don't appear to be going anywhere. Terror is an emotion. There is no war, only Bush's military action on behalf of big business. It's all for money buddy. Progressives are the defenders of democracy. You are serving the wrong side. Bye.
Your education is not evident either, and your lack of common sense is glaring. This Klein dummy thinks Obama is not liberal enough? He was the most liberal senator. Does she want Hugo Chaves as president? His country is a wreck. Crises, crises, capitalism did not cause any crises, big government and liberal/socialist polices have caused the mess. A green new deal? This green crap is just a socialist scam. Check out climategate. Go live in Cuba, everyone is equally miserable there!
Social Democracy is the future. That is where this nation is going. Don't like it? Take your fat pasty christian racists to Texas... buy Baja from Mexico & start your own "top down" authoritarian nation. Be ruled. You conservatards love that stuff. Our nation is moving to Social Democracy. Get with it or get out. We the people don't want your ignorant servitude of Halliburton anymore.
Lmao... yes... but only if Obama has a secret time Machine. This was the Reagan/Gingrich fetish with unregulated Lessez Faire capitalism via lil ol Milton Friedman. Friedmanism failed. Now we 70% of the nation are putting you 14% in the time out chair. We'll get things working. You're welcome.
i really like this woman. she's saying stuff that some sections of the left have been saying for a while but she does make much sense. I have been an activist for years and it's good to see Americans taking up some issues. I don't think that Americans are dumb (i'm australian) I think that they, like most people in advanced capitalist countries, have been hoodwinked by their establishment into believing that they have no power. they do. we all do.
oh no problem and thankyou for posting the vid. I know i don't say what's popular, but I do say what is true. I was absolutely amazed in my travels to the US about 6 odd years ago at the level of media manipulation and some of the "kings of spin" . it's outrageous! No wonder why there's so much misinformation.
naomi youre a dumb bitch. there are 2 choices right now. support the one that makes more sense for the country and go from there. unless you plan on breaking out a rocket launcher and have a militia of revolutionaries ready to go, "radical change" is just a pipe dream. you need to take things step by step in this country, its all about comprimise. dont go insulting the one choice that could actually make a change in the right direction for this coutry.
And this is why I won't remove it, because I do understand the passion of thoughtful people. That's what makes America great. I'm just glad you weren't around in 1776 to tell our founders that "radical change is just a pipe dream". I for one and ready to get our nation out from under the corporate royalists.
noahnz would be right if corporations were still legally defined in the traditional way. noahnz needs to do some research on how a corporation is a LEGAL PERSON with rights that override our own. J. D. Rockefeller also removed key language that regulated them from harming the, people, the republic and it's constitution. Google Video "the corporation"
EasyEs: *"I am recent university graduate who is now working for an Oil Company I plan on becoming rich and in the process providing heat and energy to thousands along the way."* / Reagan's gift keeps on giving. The American who denies the evidence of our rapidly shrinking middle class and says "I've got mine - good luck getting yours... now buy heat and survival from as at prices inflated by speculators. Let them eat gas."
I am Canadian. I am sorry but manufacturing jobs are not an index of the middle class. What index are you using to measure the plight of the middle class in America? Income disparity with the the rich? Standard of living? I want everyone who puts in the effort to find success if they don't it is because government regulations and taxes hold back opportunity not some imaginary rich person lighting cigars with 100$ bills. If you want I can make you look stupid regarding your speculation comment
Only billionaires benefiting is a joke. What government programs have seen the huge growth of millionaires in the United States in the last few decades. People going from the middle class or poverty to wealth. Also the poor benefit as well, poor people in the USA live better than the middle class of many western nations. I am recent university graduate who is now working for an Oil Company I plan on becoming rich and in the process providing heat and energy to thousands along the way.
More of it from $98 checks than any candidate in recent history. So on the spectrum he is a much better choice than McCain is or even John Kerry was. No matter who becomes president, our activism makes or breaks this stranglehold on the constitution. If we don't fight for it, no president can save us. Obama can defeat McCain. No one else can. And when we get active in January... I know who I'd rather be pushing for peace & and the rule of our Constitution.
Ha you guys actually believe the shit you say. The globe isn't going to warm up uncontrollably and hard working smart people like me are always going to one step ahead of you socialist from wrenching power and wealth and ultimately self determination from the common man.
And EasyEs & his republiCONS offer "socialism" and "welfare" to big banks & loan companies with our tax dollars. I'd rather see my tax dollars keep my food, water & air clean and safe and not give welfare "Bailouts" to his heroes. Big business has become a Quasi-legal pack of Al Capones - and they use them to hide behind & keep EasyEs posting stuff like this by shouting "government is the problem" - Government's clearly a problem to Al Capone. Only billionaires benefit from Lessez Faire.
First of all your tax $ my ass 10% of the people pay 80% of the taxes a high percentage of this is small business taxes. What you don't understand is that what you consider gifts to corporations are actually just allowing them to keep more of what they gain from doing business with people. When they get bailed out they are in effect saving jobs of maybe thousands of people. But Companies get reckless when they know a bailout is coming and so do people getting mortgages they shouldn't have.
Oh the suffering of the children of slavery was horrifying. It was beyond anything we can imagine today. They still don't teach it accurately. The suffering of Chinese rail workers, the suffering of latin farm workers. Beyond anything a kid today can fathom. I won't argue any of that with you... I will say that NUMBERS was a part of it too. Fully a third of all people were starving and on "relief". That makes us "crazy out there".
Complete trash. Unregulated capitalism isn't an evil, manipulative system. It's one in which individuals have complete liberty to make their own economic decisions without government coercion. Economics is based on individual motivation no matter what way you look at it and a system that tries to deny this is doomed to fail. Case in point, the market crash she eludes to was caused, not by laissez-faire capitalism, but by government intervention.
Modern Super Corporations are not "individuals" if they were... I'd agree with you ... sort of. I'd be happy to join you in pushing for legislation removing their *personhood* - Corporations are akin to kingdoms. They are king george and east india co. And as a patriot my independence still stands. Naomi has nailed the problem.
"Super Corporations" are collections of individuals acting in a voluntary way. You nor I nor "the people" have any right to infringe upon that. They (should) have the right to charge whatever they wish for their products, pay whatever they wish to their employees and otherwise do anything at all they want without violating the rights of others or breaking any contracts. And no, they are not like kingdoms because kingdoms derive their power from weapons and force.
They don't need to BE a kingdom. They are embedded in a country that uses ITS weapons and force on their behalf. They are protected by the lives of the young people of this nation. they take all the profit personally and pass on the social costs to me and even you.
Now, you are completely right. These corporations are run by collections of single individuals. So we must ask instead, what is the philosophy that allows a person to praise God on Sunday but sell his children to the devil on Monday.
What indeed. Perhaps it is not a philosophy, but rather an ethos. A percentage of those who have succeeded in America believe that those who have not, or who are middle class, are not co-equal citizens. They literally believe that this nation is for "everyone...who matters" - Our founders were hostile to this ethos. We are too. I am calling for sweeping re-regulation of the Modern Corporation.
"They are embedded in a country that uses ITS weapons and force on their behalf." I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to. If you are referring to military intervention on behalf of these corporations, like the US did in Guatemala (in part) for the United Fruit Company, then I agree that such behavior is inexcusable. If you mean the government uses its force to prevent people from stealing from corporations, that is just.
Agreed. That was a disgusting case. Also, my views have changed somewhat since 11 months ago and I think that property "rights" over land are more complicated than I did previously.
That said, I think corporations are demonized too much and I still think Klein is an idiot (or at least dishonest).
Is she kidding? No one, especially the corporate media "EVER" coronated Hillary Clinton. They did everything they possibly could to make certain that she was not the nominee and the useless and spineless DNC changed the rules to make it a reality. Once again the Dems will throw what should have been and could have been, a shoe-in election. Obama will not win the election. What on earth does he stand for - its changes everyday.
You have a short memory. I remember hearing right after the 04 elections that her candidacy was "inevitable" by both FOX NOISE and Network News. She has it right, Obama was a surprise for them. But now Wall Street players are moving to get him "contained". The FISA vote maybe proof of that. We are fighting for a Green New Deal. Join us.
This dunce sounds like Jim Jones to me. Only liberals would drink that Kool aid.
hawkermustang 2 years ago
@hawkermustang. Ok mr. common sense, I gave you a number of chances to explain yourself & you behave like a troll. We believe in democracy. You appear to be against it. You suck the king's c@ck.-fine. We don't.
I'm not keeping your comments on my page as they don't appear to be going anywhere. Terror is an emotion. There is no war, only Bush's military action on behalf of big business. It's all for money buddy. Progressives are the defenders of democracy. You are serving the wrong side. Bye.
Corporations8MyBaby 2 years ago
Your education is not evident in your comment. And why are you afraid to define your terms?
Corporations8MyBaby 2 years ago
Your education is not evident either, and your lack of common sense is glaring. This Klein dummy thinks Obama is not liberal enough? He was the most liberal senator. Does she want Hugo Chaves as president? His country is a wreck. Crises, crises, capitalism did not cause any crises, big government and liberal/socialist polices have caused the mess. A green new deal? This green crap is just a socialist scam. Check out climategate. Go live in Cuba, everyone is equally miserable there!
hawkermustang 2 years ago
Social Democracy is the future. That is where this nation is going. Don't like it? Take your fat pasty christian racists to Texas... buy Baja from Mexico & start your own "top down" authoritarian nation. Be ruled. You conservatards love that stuff. Our nation is moving to Social Democracy. Get with it or get out. We the people don't want your ignorant servitude of Halliburton anymore.
Corporations8MyBaby 2 years ago
Obama lied and the economy died.
EugeneGratz 3 years ago
Lmao... yes... but only if Obama has a secret time Machine. This was the Reagan/Gingrich fetish with unregulated Lessez Faire capitalism via lil ol Milton Friedman. Friedmanism failed. Now we 70% of the nation are putting you 14% in the time out chair. We'll get things working. You're welcome.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
i really like this woman. she's saying stuff that some sections of the left have been saying for a while but she does make much sense. I have been an activist for years and it's good to see Americans taking up some issues. I don't think that Americans are dumb (i'm australian) I think that they, like most people in advanced capitalist countries, have been hoodwinked by their establishment into believing that they have no power. they do. we all do.
StrangeLittlePoet123 3 years ago
Very well said! Thank you for your viewing and your views!
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
oh no problem and thankyou for posting the vid. I know i don't say what's popular, but I do say what is true. I was absolutely amazed in my travels to the US about 6 odd years ago at the level of media manipulation and some of the "kings of spin" . it's outrageous! No wonder why there's so much misinformation.
simoj66 3 years ago
" Laissez - Faire " Doctrine and Wall Street
polyssouljaboy 3 years ago
Thank you.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
naomi youre a dumb bitch. there are 2 choices right now. support the one that makes more sense for the country and go from there. unless you plan on breaking out a rocket launcher and have a militia of revolutionaries ready to go, "radical change" is just a pipe dream. you need to take things step by step in this country, its all about comprimise. dont go insulting the one choice that could actually make a change in the right direction for this coutry.
hotapplepipe 3 years ago
i would like to add that i dont actually think naomi is a dumb bitch. that was a heated part of my comment i regret.
hotapplepipe 3 years ago
And this is why I won't remove it, because I do understand the passion of thoughtful people. That's what makes America great. I'm just glad you weren't around in 1776 to tell our founders that "radical change is just a pipe dream". I for one and ready to get our nation out from under the corporate royalists.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
i don't think that the financial crisis or the bailout will make a change in the right direction for anyone except the people that already benefit.
simoj66 3 years ago
You make an excellent observation.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Can you imagine just sitting for hours with a bottle of wine and discussing politics with Naomi.That would be satisfying.
preagnantflea 3 years ago
I respect Naomi Kleins ideals.......
Doomkiller5656 3 years ago
noahnz, Santa Claus is not real either.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
noahnz would be right if corporations were still legally defined in the traditional way. noahnz needs to do some research on how a corporation is a LEGAL PERSON with rights that override our own. J. D. Rockefeller also removed key language that regulated them from harming the, people, the republic and it's constitution. Google Video "the corporation"
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
YEAH! SPEAK THE TRUTH NAOMI!
TrentH190 3 years ago
EasyEs: *"I am recent university graduate who is now working for an Oil Company I plan on becoming rich and in the process providing heat and energy to thousands along the way."* / Reagan's gift keeps on giving. The American who denies the evidence of our rapidly shrinking middle class and says "I've got mine - good luck getting yours... now buy heat and survival from as at prices inflated by speculators. Let them eat gas."
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
I am Canadian. I am sorry but manufacturing jobs are not an index of the middle class. What index are you using to measure the plight of the middle class in America? Income disparity with the the rich? Standard of living? I want everyone who puts in the effort to find success if they don't it is because government regulations and taxes hold back opportunity not some imaginary rich person lighting cigars with 100$ bills. If you want I can make you look stupid regarding your speculation comment
EasyEs 3 years ago 2
Only billionaires benefiting is a joke. What government programs have seen the huge growth of millionaires in the United States in the last few decades. People going from the middle class or poverty to wealth. Also the poor benefit as well, poor people in the USA live better than the middle class of many western nations. I am recent university graduate who is now working for an Oil Company I plan on becoming rich and in the process providing heat and energy to thousands along the way.
EasyEs 3 years ago 2
Thanks for sharing this. I have heard Naomi Klein on Democracy Now! and she is very well-informed.
I agree that Obama has been "contained." Just look at his funding. Did he amass all that funding from a bunch of $20.00 checks?
NWKBricks1 3 years ago
More of it from $98 checks than any candidate in recent history. So on the spectrum he is a much better choice than McCain is or even John Kerry was. No matter who becomes president, our activism makes or breaks this stranglehold on the constitution. If we don't fight for it, no president can save us. Obama can defeat McCain. No one else can. And when we get active in January... I know who I'd rather be pushing for peace & and the rule of our Constitution.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Ha you guys actually believe the shit you say. The globe isn't going to warm up uncontrollably and hard working smart people like me are always going to one step ahead of you socialist from wrenching power and wealth and ultimately self determination from the common man.
EasyEs 3 years ago
And EasyEs & his republiCONS offer "socialism" and "welfare" to big banks & loan companies with our tax dollars. I'd rather see my tax dollars keep my food, water & air clean and safe and not give welfare "Bailouts" to his heroes. Big business has become a Quasi-legal pack of Al Capones - and they use them to hide behind & keep EasyEs posting stuff like this by shouting "government is the problem" - Government's clearly a problem to Al Capone. Only billionaires benefit from Lessez Faire.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
First of all your tax $ my ass 10% of the people pay 80% of the taxes a high percentage of this is small business taxes. What you don't understand is that what you consider gifts to corporations are actually just allowing them to keep more of what they gain from doing business with people. When they get bailed out they are in effect saving jobs of maybe thousands of people. But Companies get reckless when they know a bailout is coming and so do people getting mortgages they shouldn't have.
EasyEs 3 years ago 2
Corporations8mybaby
I was the voice that yelled out "Obama funds the war"
the Free Press are shameless Democratic apologists and should be ashamed of themselves.
I have a cable show "Lies and Omissions of Corporate Media" in Minneapolis..
This will appear on my next show.
MichaelCavlan 3 years ago 3
Excellent. Everyone should click on your name and check that out.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
NO the New Deal happened because White people were finally sufferring..and when they suffer,policies start to change...
evette808 3 years ago
Oh the suffering of the children of slavery was horrifying. It was beyond anything we can imagine today. They still don't teach it accurately. The suffering of Chinese rail workers, the suffering of latin farm workers. Beyond anything a kid today can fathom. I won't argue any of that with you... I will say that NUMBERS was a part of it too. Fully a third of all people were starving and on "relief". That makes us "crazy out there".
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Complete trash. Unregulated capitalism isn't an evil, manipulative system. It's one in which individuals have complete liberty to make their own economic decisions without government coercion. Economics is based on individual motivation no matter what way you look at it and a system that tries to deny this is doomed to fail. Case in point, the market crash she eludes to was caused, not by laissez-faire capitalism, but by government intervention.
noahnz 3 years ago
Modern Super Corporations are not "individuals" if they were... I'd agree with you ... sort of. I'd be happy to join you in pushing for legislation removing their *personhood* - Corporations are akin to kingdoms. They are king george and east india co. And as a patriot my independence still stands. Naomi has nailed the problem.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
"Super Corporations" are collections of individuals acting in a voluntary way. You nor I nor "the people" have any right to infringe upon that. They (should) have the right to charge whatever they wish for their products, pay whatever they wish to their employees and otherwise do anything at all they want without violating the rights of others or breaking any contracts. And no, they are not like kingdoms because kingdoms derive their power from weapons and force.
noahnz 3 years ago
They don't need to BE a kingdom. They are embedded in a country that uses ITS weapons and force on their behalf. They are protected by the lives of the young people of this nation. they take all the profit personally and pass on the social costs to me and even you.
Now, you are completely right. These corporations are run by collections of single individuals. So we must ask instead, what is the philosophy that allows a person to praise God on Sunday but sell his children to the devil on Monday.
bostsu2001 3 years ago
What indeed. Perhaps it is not a philosophy, but rather an ethos. A percentage of those who have succeeded in America believe that those who have not, or who are middle class, are not co-equal citizens. They literally believe that this nation is for "everyone...who matters" - Our founders were hostile to this ethos. We are too. I am calling for sweeping re-regulation of the Modern Corporation.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
"They are embedded in a country that uses ITS weapons and force on their behalf." I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to. If you are referring to military intervention on behalf of these corporations, like the US did in Guatemala (in part) for the United Fruit Company, then I agree that such behavior is inexcusable. If you mean the government uses its force to prevent people from stealing from corporations, that is just.
noahnz 2 years ago
The former. The United Fruit Co. example is perfect and rampant as evidenced by Ms. Klein's books.
Corporations8MyBaby 2 years ago
Agreed. That was a disgusting case. Also, my views have changed somewhat since 11 months ago and I think that property "rights" over land are more complicated than I did previously.
That said, I think corporations are demonized too much and I still think Klein is an idiot (or at least dishonest).
noahnz 2 years ago
so what motivated the government to intervene? it certainly wasn't the good of the people
simoj66 3 years ago 2
Naomi - isn't there something useful you could do with yourself in Canada? Just asking.
moolaroo 3 years ago
Is she kidding? No one, especially the corporate media "EVER" coronated Hillary Clinton. They did everything they possibly could to make certain that she was not the nominee and the useless and spineless DNC changed the rules to make it a reality. Once again the Dems will throw what should have been and could have been, a shoe-in election. Obama will not win the election. What on earth does he stand for - its changes everyday.
moolaroo 3 years ago
You have a short memory. I remember hearing right after the 04 elections that her candidacy was "inevitable" by both FOX NOISE and Network News. She has it right, Obama was a surprise for them. But now Wall Street players are moving to get him "contained". The FISA vote maybe proof of that. We are fighting for a Green New Deal. Join us.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Thanks so much for sharing this
pamlyn 3 years ago
You are so welcome. Check back for new additions regarding our grass roots uprising... and defending the new deal.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Dynamite speech. Irritating and idiotic text additions.
rabbitandcrow 3 years ago
Sorry they were not to your liking... my politics blog-friends and I do that... and enjoy them.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago