This should be called adoption lies. I am an adoptive Mom and have open adoptions with our birthfamilies. Yes, we talk on the phone. Yes, we send pictures. Yes, they come over and have come over whenever they want. We were invited into the delivery room with our second daughter. It was a beautiful experience and we all cried. Our daughters' birthmothers lovingly placed them in our arms and we will make sure our girls are aware of that.
@slinkycrane Adoption TRUTH is exactly what it should be called. Why do so many adopters have the nerve and feel the need toy denounce what natural mothers say when they speak their truths. Does the truth ruffle your adopter feathers? Too damn bad...
@salmonmcmannis Haha .. Some women are out ( and men) should NOT be allowed to have children .. DO i really need to rhyme off reasons for you .....Pick up a local news paper sometime.
@MrsLeanneElliott and so many people have have no business adopting. Do I really need to rhyme off reasons for you? Talk to the millions of adoptees and natural mothers who lost out on each other needlessly. Get over yourself, please.
@MrsLeanneElliott and just because someone thinks they are owed some other woman's infant, does not mean they should get that infant. What's wrong, you can't produce a child of your own? No one's problem.
@salmonmcmannis This must not be the same as in the UK . Not sure where your from . But most adoptions are due to a break down with the birth parents. Some children are abused and neglected , I feel all should be done to keep a child with the birth parents but sometimes its not what`s best for the child . ( most cases) Leaving a child to be neglected and abused is NOT good for anyone and adoption into a safer family is best for the child.
I love this. Family preservation is more important than family separation. So sad that children are given up for adoption, which is most often a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I was only given up because my dad was pressured; if he had been shown other options, he might have kept me. I know it was the hardest thing he ever did.
You know most of this shit is not true! I am adopted and don't remember my parents ever having to go through any of this shit! Who the hell are you? Do you even know anything about this subject!?!?!? Learn the whole truth not this shit!
Thank you so much for this video. See my story on fb....Volunteers-of-America-Black-Market-Babies created to expose the TRUTH about the coercion in adoption.
Adoptions should happen once a woman has already given birth, arrangements shouldn't be made during her pregnancy. Once the baby has been given up to a agency those are the babies that need to be offerd and not just have agencies point adopters to pregnant teens.
@NotUrPuppet08 : Not every child who is placed for adoption is damaged for life-what an ignorant thought. Not every birth mother regrets placing their child for adoption. Sometimes adoptions end up with happy endings. Sometimes families that chose not to place their child for adoption have sad endings. Seen the new lately???
@krissykirchmann well yeah thats why I'm pro choice but personally I would hate my parents for giving me up for adoption no matter what their reason is. I know a few people that have been adopted or in foster homes and not all of them are happy about it. Some people are scarf for life and werent being treated good at all with their new families. I'm just saying
Oh and my comment is not including all mums and dads whos child is put up for adoption there are millions of reasons. I am also not saying adoption is always right but 9 out of 10 it is whats best for the child.
I have one reason why there is absolutely no reason for anyone to be put up for adoption unless the authorities phisically come and take the child away, because it hurts the adopted child like hell, they won't even be able to hear your name or stand the thought of you without feeling resentment, anger, fear or guilt. If there is a choice, don't adopt, it hurts everyone involved...
@2012Steelerfan I wasn't talking about when there is no parents there or when the parent is deemed unfit to be a parent, I am talking about the adoptees whose parents had a choice but chose to adopt them or if people are unsure of whether they should give there child away for adoption.
@AMMF93 And what if that child is being abused or beaten not being fed or cared for in any way what if the mothers only love is her drug addiction and the dad is no where to be seen or he beats her in front of the child or maybe beats the child too what about sexual abuse ????????? am pretty sure adoption into a good happy and safe home is better!
I am so shocked by some comments on here about adoptive parents being the bad guys! , Sometimes ( most of the time) the birth parents are the reason the child is up for adoption in the first place, Some adoptions do go wrong it happens but most of the time the child is loved and cared for and hopefully grows up to be able to understand the reasons for their adoption and are able to look for their birth parents if they want to. Not all adopts are bad some people should NOT be allowed to have kids
@MrsLeanneElliott and you are just the person who should dictate who should and should not have kids, right? Some people should NOT be allowed to adopt someone else's either...!
@MrsLeanneElliott "Sometimes (most of the time) the birth parents are the reason the child is up for adoption..."
Tell this corrupt government that the millions it spends on false adoption propaganda and "specialists" who con pregnant teens into surrendering their babies, and millions more in federal subsidies to states that separate children from their natural families have little to do with children being "freed" for adoption.
How do you know most adoptees are loved? Their mothers don't!
@MrsLeanneElliott I never said that adoption was a bad thing merely stated the fact that it hurts the adoptee in ways that they don't understand. Of course the parent who abuses their child should probably be locked up.
@AMMF93 I have to totally disagree with you. There are MANY good reasons why children are placed for adoption. My father was adopted and he is now 70 years old. He is the happiest, most gratful person that I know. He has NEVER used his adoption as an excuse to be a miserable person. Life is short. Be happy and don't blame the past for the present or the future.
@raffynjenny: "love one another and also adopt the mother". Just so you know, I don't want to adopt my child's birthmother-that doesn't make me a bad person. It is not my responsibility to save the world, I just wanted to be the mom of a child that really needed one. You claim to be so religous, but you are VERY judgemental. Quit shaming me already. Good night
@krissykirchmann Of course you don't want to adopt the natural mother. You want to make off with HER infant and act as if she doesn't exist. Typical adopter narcissist. It is not some other's woman's responsibility to provider you with her infant either, just so you can play impostor mommy to her baby.
@1969PhoenixRising I didn’t ask anybody to provide me with a child-I can do that on my own. What I did was happily accept the responsibility of raising a child that somebody brought into the world but could not take care of. I did this because how I became a mother wasn’t important to me, I just knew that I wanted to be a mom, and adoption is what made me a mother first. I would not change a thing in my life story. We are a happy family that looks past race, and genetics. It is called LOVE.
@krissykirchmann wow you again, you seem to forget a really huge and important fact, this adoption is NOT about you nor is it your story. Another thing, who said anything about race, genetics will always trump the fantasy world of adoption, the Natural family will always trump fake families, yes I said fake that's the truth, legal fiction is just that fiction, please get over yourself and put the child ahead of yourself, you will never erase genetics or nature or truly replace her mother!
@AtarahDerek:I wasn’t aware that surname was used by Americans-we live in Asia and that is the term that is used here, but I had not heard it used when we were living in the States.
@raffynjenny: not that it matters, but I also don't think you are from the US. You used the term surname and that is not an American term. Where are you from?
@krissykirchmann I use the term "surname" all the time, and I'm a proud Montanan. I didn't think she was American because every pro-adoption American Christian knows about SCC's Show Hope adoption ministry, and most are aware of the fact that he lost his youngest adopted daughter in a car accident.
But then, she's so lousy at making simple connections that I have to wonder if she has to be told which of her socks match.
I am her mommy and that is all that matters. I am the one who has not left her side for weeks at a time in the hospital, I am the one who she cries for when she is not feeling well and needs a cuddle and some kisses. I am the one to comfort her when she wakes from a nightmare, or has an argument with a friend. I am the one who laughs at all of her jokes-even though most of them aren’t that funny and I am the one loves her the most.I am her mom. Always have been, always well be.
@starbucksfrappachino that's great that you were able to get your original birth certificate, and you're wrong I am not speaking as if I am above anyone, I do know a thing or two but not everything, I am a mother of adoption loss and I am half adopted plus my best friend was adopted so you are wrong on all accounts, my parents wanted me too and my son he was wanted as well by both me and his adopters that mistreated and still mistreats him to this day.
I have never been more sure of anything in my life than I am of being my child’s mother, so don’t worry about hurting my feelings. Little souls find their way to you whether they are from your womb, or someone else’s. My little soul found me and the world is as it should be.
Great Video, Thank you for getting the truth out here that so many have no clue about which is okay in time more and more women and men will understand.and in time a whole new generation of mothers of adoption loss and adoptese will be speaking out as well just as they are now. This is about TRUTH not an isolated experience, those who say that is an attempt to get mothers to go back into nothingness and get adoptese to comply, also this is bout INFANT adoption different than Orphan or foster.
@starbucksfrappachino I don't know all but I do know false birth certificates are given, and yes I do know what I am talking about. Judging from your emotional response and belittling words, do you have any idea what you are talking about? Seems I hit a sensitive spot, however your response says more about you than it does anyone else, sorry you feel so terrible about yourself. P.S. I will never shut up, buh bye
I am not sure how I insulted you-I was just making an observation based on what I have read. I am not attacking you, just representing the ‘other side’ of adoption. I became a mom through adoption-as a first choice, not a last option. I have helped several other couples become parents through adoption. I have my Bachelor of Science in Psychology and I am currently in school to get my MSW (Master’s in Social Work). I plan to make a HUGE impact in the world of adoption.
@krissykirchmann Oh no. Thanks for the warning. You plan on contributing to legalized kidnapping by coercing more young women out of their infants. Fantastic. Bet your an 'open adoption' advocate too, telling people to say anything to get their salivating mouths on a womb wet infant.
@1969PhoenixRising: How are you making the world a better place? Check out my foundation: Girl's Rock. We provide education to girls around the world who for one reason or another cannot afford to go to school. Donate if you like.
What you are spewing is absolute nonsense. It might be your personal experience-which if it is, you should have gone to the police and filed a report for child abduction-but it is not every woman who places her child for adoption experience. FYI: You do not have to give birth to a child to love that child as your own. As human beings we are the only creature hard wired to take care of children that did not come from our own womb. This is called evolution, maybe it is time you evolved a bit...
@raffynjenny: Please enlighten me and tell me what other animal is hard-wired to care for offspring that is not their own? Human brains are hard-wired to form relationships-this is where nurture comes from. I am not making ‘silly noise’ I am stating a fact-google it. If you don’t want people to comment on your video, take it off youtube. Otherwise learn how to have an intelligent debate and don’t just tell people to shutup.
@raffynjenny First of all I am not debating with anyone second this is NOT my video, also maybe you need some lessons in empathy and compassion. Just because a girl of young age at the time of her child's birth does not mean she will be that age forever. Adoption is a permanent solution to temporary circumstances. also I can have quite intelligent debates with out minded non biased persons such as yourself, have you carried a child of your own, brought that beautiful life into the world?
contin. loved that life with all of your being, and then separated and completely cut off and thrown to roadside and expected to pretend you never did this never went through any of this? You obviously have no clue or inkling as to what that is like, did you grow up not fitting in, being belittled and compared to persons that aren't even related to you? If you have experienced neither, no offense you are not one who should be judging and saying how things should be. SHAME ON YOU.
@raffynjenny Where do I even begin?! Abortion should be the last resort, not adoption. If you didn’t want to place your child for adoption, why didn’t you go to your church for help? If you truly wanted to mother your child you could have found a way-many women do. Just because you give birth to a child does not mean that you are capable of being a mom. My child is in a much better place with us then she ever could have been with her genetic donor. My child knows who her real parents are: US!
@1969PhoenixRising: But is OK for you to call me an "imposter mommy"? Who is the true psycho? Certainly not me- I wouldn't have been approved for adoption if I had any mental issues. I am a perfectly sane, fertile, happy lady!
@krissykirchmann you ARE an impostor mommy. You come here to degrade and dehumanize natural mothers who are speaking their truths and want to claim title all for you greedy narcissistic self... You wouldn't have been approved for adoption if you didn't have the cash to buy yourself someone else's baby.
@krissykirchmann Why are you trolling around this page anyway, if you are so against what this video is about. It is your pathetic attempt to silence anyone who has something negative (and rightfully so)to say about baby brokers and their paying customers. We aren't going away, much to yours and so many other adopters horror. Get used to it. Perhaps the truth being spoken will prevent some young, vulnerable woman from losing her child to the likes of people like you.
@1969PhoenixRising Trolling? I am just replying to the 8 comments I received from you in my email inbox over the last 2 days. The reason I even found this video is because someone who posted on here sent a rude comment about my daughter to an adoption video that I had uploaded. FREEDOM OF SPEECH and OPINIONS...
@1969PhoenixRising If it makes you feel better, then go ahead and call me IMPOSTER mommy. My daughter prefers to call me mom, mama, or mommy-sometimes mother if she is upset with me. I wasn’t approved for adoption because I had cash-a lot of families who adopt aren’t wealthy-I was approved because I am a happy, healthy person who is in a solid, happy marriage and who has an amazing, supportive and loving family..
@krissykirchmann . And I am not degrading or dehumanizing anybody. I TOTALLY believe in freedom of speech. Just sharing my story and my opinions-just like everybody else on this site.
@1969PhoenixRising Amen, that is the truth and they do not do a mental evaluation with the home studies, notice above comment where she's (@krissykirchmann ) trying to insinuate some sort of mental illness ha, is that all she's got , it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the accuser ,most of the time is the one with the problem.
@IrisHoney13 i hate to burst a bubble here but a great majority do go that way, but what do ya expect the babies weren't and aren't blank slates they will have the traits of their natural parents and those traits need to be respected and understood as best as an adoptive parent can try to understand, never never try to mold the child let the child be who they're meant to be, by trying to mold you will cause them internal grief except them as they are encourage their talents plus some!
@starbucksfrappachino honey unless an infant is abused there is no justifying adoption point blank. Also your feelings do matte and I am so sorry you were separated from your family of origin cut off from your ancestry, have a false birth certificate and what ever else you may have gone through I am so sorry, the industry is to blame
@GDOBSSOR: most natural mother's aren't abusive?! where did you get that? what about the women who just threw her baby from the 4th story of a car park? or casey anthony? both of these women had thought about placing their babies for adoption, but were talked out of it.
@krissykirchmann what about that woman and what about Casey Anthony that's two women out of how many millions of women , it's terrible what happened with those women but guess what the majority of women are not planning to abuse their unborn infant child that is a part of them mother/child are one they are a unit, don't believe ask a doctor. Infant adoption and it's predators need to go unless PEOPLE can love one another & also adopt the mother to keep mother/child together.
adoption isn’t an easy decision and it should not be taken lightly. it is forever, but sometimes it is the best decision for the child. every child deserves a chance at a good life and a happy, stable environment. not ever woman who gets pregnant and gives birth to a child can provide this. adoption has been a huge blessing in my life-my father was adopted and had amazing adoptive parents and we also adopted our child and wouldn’t have it any other way. don't believe the hype...
@krissykirchmann what hype shouldn't be believed? Adoption should be a last resort always and no young woman should be approached while pregnant and encouraged to meet up with pap's or look through files etc. that is coercion and is wrong You can not take a couple of bad apples and then generalize about pregnant women you're not better.Adoption is women's crime on women, the have not's vs. the haves so to speak, the video is spot on if one must adopt, love one another and also adopt the mother
@raffynjenn : Where do I even begin?! Abortion should be the last resort, not adoption. If you didn’t want to place your child for adoption, why didn’t you go to your church for help? If you truly wanted to mother your child you could have found a way-many women do. Just because you give birth to a child does not mean that you are capable of being a mom. My child is in a much better place with us then she ever could have been with her genetic donor. My child knows who her real parents are: US!
@raffynjenny At 15 you are still a child yourself and not capable of being a great parent-have you ever watched ‘Teen Mom’ of ‘16 and Pregnant’? These babies should have been placed for adoption. Your parents made the right decision by having you place your child for adoption. I am guessing from your style of writing, vocabulary choice and immature attitude that you are not much older than 15 now, so I will keep things nice and leave you alone.
@krissykirchmann Please spare me with your insults, I suppose anyone who does't agree with you then becomes immature with their writing also being criticized, it's okay though it says more about your character and the kind of person you are and NOTHING about me. And no parents now admit they made a terrible choice under pressure themselves, adoption hurt my child and robbed him of a lot.As I said unless you have been through any of this you are merely judging you can not know unless you have!
@krissykirchmann Wow lady you have some nerve. You just pick and choose who should give their infants up for adoption. This is one scary society we live in, to have people like you with that thought process walking among us. I would be very afraid if I was a young woman today...
@krissykirchmann Honey it's not hype this video is truth, the real HYPE is what the industry and agencies put out there.Living mother's are not meant to be separated from their infants nor infants separated from their living mother's, you do know they've known since as early as the 40's it's not a good thing to do, oh wait they don't tell that part to the one's who lose or the one's who gain. I know lots of people that had AMAZING NATURAL PARENTS my father was raised by is natural mother.....
@raffynjenny What are you talking about?! This video is someone's opinion and personal experience. It is not only orphans who should have a chance at a good life, every child deserves the best life possible-this is not always done through the brith parents. Adoption is NEVER going to stop. I am sorry you had a crappy life and I do feel bad for you, but move forward, get some help and try and make a positive change in your life. Seriously. I am not trying to be disrespectful, just some advice.
@krissykirchmann Excuse me, who said I had a crappy life,just because I agree with everything this video says which is based on truth not experience, doesn't equate to my supposedly having a crappy life wow, move forward what are you talking about, my life is fine however my son's life is another story. I'm pretty sure adoption won't end wish it would though because it's no longer about the child it's about the adults filling a need in most cases, the child is forced to live a lie that's wrong
@raffynjenny: YOU said you had a crappy life-you gave up your child. I have a 5 year old daughter whom I adopted. She happens to be one of the happiest, smartest, balanced children I have ever seen-I am not the only one who thinks so. You can have a look at her adoption story if you click on my user name. She has always known she is adopted-we keep a picture of her birth family next to her bed and put them in our prayers nightly. Please explain to me how my child is being forced to live a lie?
@krissykirchmann I never said I have had a crappy life, has there been on going grief yes, however my son is the one who ended up with the crappy life and treated horribly by supposed Christians. Does she have her original birth certificate and does she carry her true surname and does she interact with her other family?
OK if she is living in truth she would know you are not her original mother, however I am pretty sure you have her call you mommy and her other mommy birth mommy, you are both her mommy and she should not be denied interaction with her other mommy it's good for her to on many levels, having a falsified birth certificate does not reflect truth, this is what I mean by living a lie I have more to say but I want to be sensitive to your feelings
Of course she calls me mommy-that is what I am! And I am her ‘original mom’. She is five years old and she has spent every day of her life with me-how more original can I be? We are not both her mommy- a ‘mommy’ has a very different role than a ‘birthmother’. Her birthmother did exactly that-gave birth to her. Clearly she is not living a lie. Her life is what it is.
@krissykirchmann you are not the original mother and never will be you are her adoptive mother, the woman you just love to dehumanize by calling her a birthmother meaning an incubator is the little girls original mother, yes you are parenting her you are her parent by legal means but you are not the original, as she grow and enters in to her teens this is when you will see the changes and she carries the traits of her original parents, that should be encouraged so she never feels bad
@krissykirchmann You are not her mother. You are her adopter caretaker. Keep living in fantasy land. Every time that child looks in the mirror nothing of you will be staring back at her, that is a fact that you can never erase.
@1969PhoenixRising You can call me whatever you would like, but I am my daughter’s mother. We may not share the same genes, but we share 5 years of memories with a lifetime of new memories ahead. This trumps everything else to me. And when she looks in the mirror she sees exactly what she should: herself. I love my child not because she looks like me or my husband, or shares our genes, but just for being her. She is perfect. This is unconditional love and nothing trumps that. Best of luck to you
i have an adopted daughter and have pride in calling her bm my friend and family - we contact her as often as possible and will will go back to visit when dd is older - my daughter is a confident loving child so please dont tar all adoptions with the one brush - adoption does work and adoptive children are loved by all the birth and forever families - they grow up proud and i will always be a proud mum xx
@bclocke Really you just gave away your true feelings you called the child you adopted's mother a bm, she so much more than that, you contact her when possible, you do realize this is her child and you keep them as separate as possible for what reason? No adoption does not always work and what's even more sickening is when a mother realizes within the time frame allowed to change her mind the pap's take it to court that's sick it's not their child ah but it sure shows their true colors though!
I will say I realize the system needs reform. But, having spent the last few hours reading the often times outright hateful anti-adoption side of things I think have come to a realization; women and adopted children are incapable of making rational decisions towards adoption in general. Not meant to be rude but women, biologically, are too empathic to not depend almost entirely on gut feelings or their heart in matters concerning mothers and children and adoptees are too personally involved.
@Cajaquarius Infant adoption is a multibillion-dollar global racket. Read E.J. Graff's article in Foreign Policy on the rampant corruption in international adoptions and Kathryn Joyce's "Shotgun Adoption" online. Stranger adoptions, domestic and international, are child-trafficking and slavery. The evidence is damning. Even Christian adoption agency pricelists show that children are graded and priced according to their race, age and health status. This is the definition of evil.
@asynkronos Yes, the adoption agencies that function out of other nations with little to no Human Rights oversight and even the bad ones here are in need of some serious reform. That said calling all adoption slavery or evil is not rational. Just because some stranger adoption is done in a bad way doesn't mean all stranger adoption is automatically bad - that is faulty correlation. Certainly not grounds for attacking people who adopt kids, calling them selfish or damning the whole of the system.
@Cajaquarius Adoption is unconstitutional and contrary to sound mental health practice. Separation traumatizes mothers and babies but mothers are not warned of it. The law allows people to buy children and replace their real birth certificates with bogus ones that list the adopters' names in place of the natural parents'. It lets them hide the truth from adoptees and their parents. Adoption was corrupt from the start. The government promotes this abuse-for-profit. It is indefensible.
@Cajaquarius stranger adoption is just that stranger adoption, what is bad is separating the infant and mother for adoption purposes which does cause a trauma to both as they are one unit until 9 months of age for baby, yes all is bad in this sense, we are not talking about older children removed from homes we are talking fresh babies just out of mama, all agencies make a killing off that baby and write it up as expenses it is baby selling and it is wrong on all accounts.
@Cajaquarius I am going to assume you are a man, now why do you suppose there are outright hateful anti-adoption comments? let me clue you in, when a woman falls pregnant her hormone are all whacked the industry knows this and thrives on it they schmooze, coerce, and blind side these woman into doing the whole adoption thing a woman shouldn't be approached during pregnancy about adoption, she shouldn't be making any kind of decision until she is fully recovered at least 6-8 weeks postpartum
see the way things are set up and the tactics used and they do take full advantage of the pregnant woman as well as the potential adopters, the pap's buy the propaganda the agency makes a killing off just one baby they convinced a mother to place it's disgusting, they are not honest with either pap's or mothers and two people get hurt out it mother and her child, and you bet mothers are upset and speaking out the truth, call it hate but it's not hate it's pain my friend.
Adoptese are also coming out of the closet and speaking up about the pain and what adoption has really been like for them and some had great and wonderful Ap's and some not so much, I commend the adoptese coming out and telling truth it need to be heard they have been quiet for a long time but not anymore and it's sad that people aren't listening people just want what they want and don't care about anything else so sad, mothers are not interchangeable, mother and infant are a unit.
They were never meant to be separated infants and mothers that is, both adoptese and their mothers they have been denied both suffered in silence for a long time, some would never tell their adoptive parents but behind the scenes it's a whole other thing going on. The pain is and was needless most infant adoptions are needless, it brings about a pain and suffering unless you have lived it you will never understand it so please do not judge something you don't understand thank you :-)
I considered adoption and ended up keeping my baby, but I think adoption is good in some cases. I think that the mom must be for sure about her decision though, because after you meet the little baby, it's so hard to say goodbye forever. It was the worst pain I ever felt in the hospital when I thought I had only two days to be with her. But I know some people who have felt their baby being adopted was best. Follow your heart!!
This made me mad . I'm adopted and the reason that I was put up for adoption is because my biological parents were poor . They gave me up because they didn't want me living a life of poverty . This video is wrong and un-true .
It's true that open adoptions aren't legally enforceable, and that if you give up your child for open adoption and the adoptive parents decide to close it off, there's nothing you can do.
@angelhatesyou75217 Even then, the law ONLY provides for closed adoptions. Nowhere in the adoption act does it say you are allowed adoption. And most people would not realise they need a legal contract. They just think the law provides for them. They are coerced into giving up their babies, which is why 80% of open adoptions are closed.
@GDOBSSOR "Coerced"? That's like saying they were coerced into getting knocked up in the first place. I know there are cases where people were lied to but that's rare. You give your kid up for adoption, you know what you're getting into. This video is a joke.
@angelhatesyou75217 Uh, no it's not. Read any book on adoption. Lots of women are placed under pressure to give their children up for adoption, not necessarily by agencies, but by society, parents, partners, etc, who don't want the responsibility or shame of looking after a child, and don't care about the feelings of the woman. If you are trying to tell me this DOESN'T happen, you're living in lala land.
@angelhatesyou75217 Ever read "The Girls who went away"? Because similar things to the events of that book can still happen today. Not saying this is the way in all cases, but it is PERFECTLY LEGAL for the birth mother to be seen as little more than a convenient slut. THIS is what is wrong. In New Zealand where I live, the Adoption Act was last updated in 1955. When I mentioned this to my mum, she just said, "It's called open adoption", but there wasn't open adoption in 1955.
@angelhatesyou75217 So there wouldn't be now either. And my mum's reaction told me that a lot of the public wouldn't know that open adoption isn't legally enforceable either - certainly not without a lawyer's contract, which an adoption agency probably wouldn't tell you about, as most of them exist for the adoptive parents, and although most adoptive kids would be fine staying with their natural parents, an agency would rarely tell you that either, as they have a 7 year waiting list.
@GDOBSSOR Really, people don't know it might be a good idea to get a legally protective contract when dealing with legal issues? The adoption agency has to tell them? If you're that ignorant then you deserve whatever comes to you in life. As for the kids wanting to stay with their natural parents, well most kids would also be fine eating candy all day every day but I think society has established children aren't always capable of making the best choices for themselves.
@angelhatesyou75217 Wrong. NOBODY deserves to have their kids snatched away from them unless they are actually abusive and most natural mothers aren't, they are just young and don't have a lot of life experience. As for you comparing candy to family relationships - that just shows how really superficial you are and I really hope you don't ever adopt.
@GDOBSSOR Hey moron, I was comparing a child perspective to what they need vs what they want, not candy to family relationships you fucking idiot. You sound like a little kid. Do you have any experience what so ever in the subject? I give respect to the people actually posting their life stories as warning about what can happen in adoption, but I have a feeling you're just talking shit out your ass.
@angelhatesyou75217 Hey you really need to watch your language and perhaps use a different analogy cause I sure read the same thing and understood the same thing that you wrote, then you bust out with this childish name calling and cursing, why so defensive, and actually she she knows her stuff inside and out and isn't talking smack like you just did, please grow up and stop with the cursing and name calling that really shows immaturity, we are adults here lets act like one okay
@angelhatesyou75217 Most women taken advantage of are young teenager do not call them ignorant please, and your point about children eating candy makes no sense, what she meant is that agencies know a mother is fully capable of raising her own child just fine, but they don't care they have a waiting list clients waiting money to be made do ya really think they are there to help a mother out, they are there to help her out of her baby and that's it. Open your eyes for crying aloud geeze
@angelhatesyou75217 Yes coerced, and no it's not like saying someone was coerced into falling pregnant, Mothers are lies to all the time thousands and thousands of them it is NOT rare, and NO a mother does not completely know what she is getting into for Christs sakes they haven't even given mother time to recover postpartum her hormone levels are out of whack she should not be making any life altering decisions until she is fully recovered 6-8 weeks, 90% of the time mother not fully informed
So please don;t generalize maybe the agencies tell you that mothers know exactly what they are getting into but I will tell them to their face and in front of you or who ever that they are lying. This video is spot on and thank goodness it's up for people to learn the truth.
@angelhatesyou75217 that's not true the legal contracts are not enforceable, once parental rights are signed away there are no rights, not for visitation not for anything. I know what i'm talking about I know from experience and lots of other mothers who have been burned in this way also more than burned, betrayed times a billion is more like it and these people are raising our child or have raised our child it says a lot about their character never would I want someone so shady raising baby
This video is biased and your sources for your quotations are questionable. You also act like a majority of adoptions are infants. I work for a dcf and see the reality of adoption everyday. I am not denying the dark side, but do not act like mothers who are coerced into giving up babies represent the majority of American adoptions. I do not like your title "Adoption Truth." I am not denying this video is representative of some stories, but you're being misleading by saying it is the whole.
@iReadPennyDreadfuls I beg to differ with you as one of the majority, and no one is acting like anything and biased perhaps in the eyes of the industry or the likes of them, you really think they want the truth out, Infant adoptions as whole yes that is what this is about, I assume dfs is similar to dhs or cps also known for the corruption and part in separating innocent families all in the name of money, federal funding is generated and bonus's for adoptions. no misleading here thanks!
your attempt at guilt fails and this video is nothing more than hateful lies. You cannot speak for everyone and clearly need psychological help. Someone has some issues!!
@brentwithani, Mr. you totally miss the point man and no one is in need of any psychological help for having the guts to speak truth, this is about infant adoption and no one is trying to speak for everyone but thank goodness they spoke for the majority who are no longer in the fog that maybe you're in, if it triggered a guilt or nerve within you, maybe you better do some research dig deep and research hard, oh and the whole psychological card used in an attempt to shut someone up FAILED
Fixing to go meet with my birth mother again so I'm looking around for some videos to give me courage and I watch this an I just want to cry now. I know that it's not saying that it's my fault or anything but now I few horrible that I'm adopted. I love my mom and I love my biological mother but in a different way. I was thinking that adoption would be shown as a happy thing, now I just feel sad... like I could of not been born and things would of been better off for everyone.
@tigoxgirl don't feel that way and do not carry it, just know you have every right to love both your mothers and fathers with out guilt, terrible things were done but that is not your fault or any other adoptese and quite frank not your mothers fault either, you now know the truth, but it is what it is and awareness need to be spread, I hope your visit went fine and never feel guilty for spending time with ya mama you are not betraying anyone you can love both.
I understand that adoption should not be entered in to lightly. What this video dose not consider is that some young women who become pregnant are not ready to raise a baby. I would never tell a young mom that she would forget her baby or that it would be easy. If she is pregnant and not ready to raise a baby she has a few choises, and none of them are easy. I do think that young moms who are not prepared to raise a baby can make choises that are harder to live with then placing the baby.
@angela510rn a young mother should not be separated from her infant she needs support true support that is , why not love one another and adopt the mother too so she and her baby can stay together, however being young , poor and so on is never a good reason to cause a trauma and let me tell you nothing is harder more painful or more traumatizing than being separated from your first born infant, most mothers are thrown out like a used rag doll after they get the baby ,you couldn't be more wrong
Nice vid. Even people who are not involved in the adoption process see that it is wrong. A maternal bond is very special. Of course, it is better than abortion. By best advice is find someone who needs help and support and help them out of the kindness of your heart, because everyone else is just doing it for the money.
There are so many children in the orphanages that don't have anybody and need loving parents, and many don't get adopted and live their childhood life without a loving gamily.. I am a young mother of 2 beautiful boys and giving them up was NEVER on my mind.. I don’t know any mother that regrets keeping her baby but I do know mothers who regret giving them up and there is nothing more painful . Keep your baby, when you look into her eyes you’ll know you made the right decision.
When I was born, my birth mother was 19 years old and in no position to raise a child. She placed me for adoption because she felt that I deserved a better life than she would be able to provide. I was adopted at the age of five days, and I couldn't ask for better parents. I thank God for my family and for my birth mother's selflessness.
@JakAndKeiraFan Better life, hmm what's a better life having more things materially, money, I'd of rather had my family than the material advantages any day, plus I never felt like I fit in especially at family gatherings, I was alwways told I could do things just like a cousin of mine and when I didn't and wanted to do my own thing I was told I was wishy washy and unstable just because I wanted to use my own natural talents, birthmom regretted everyday and I love my parents but I love my mom 2
what if the mother wants to put the child up for adoption ?? their own choice ? some mothers can even choose the parents they want to adopt there child and still have some contact, stop making adoption black and white because every case is different! and lets be honest some mothers that give birth arnt fit to be parents!
@raffynjenny No its not , Just because you can give birth doesnt mean you should be a mother or farther!! Lots of kids in care wouldnt be alive if they was left with their birth parents look how money die at the hands of there REAL parents . abuse , neglect, need i go on ? Adoption is hard on the birth mother but sometimes its whats best for the child , Please do not try to clime that all women who give birth have a right to that child some mothers are not good parents ( farthers too).
@MrsLeanneElliott for someone so secure in her role as I AM THE BEST ADOPTER MOMMY IN THE UNIVERSE HEAR ME ROAR, you sure spend a lot of time here (and I suspect elsewhere) demeaning natural parents. You aren't the real mother. Get over it.
@1969PhoenixRising hey i simply answer comments when i get an e-mail its really that simple and don`t pretend to know anything about my life in the REAL world. I am all for natural parents that protect and love their family as any parent should. SOME people should not be parents there for adoption is needed to allow that child a normal happy life they would NOT get in an abusive family.
AWESOME! Adoption is awful on all fronts for most situations and even when adoption is called for, a perm. placement under guardianship with a family member (blood family to the child, preferrably the mother's side) would be more beneficial than some freaky people wanting to call another person's kid their own.
@patiencepoet How very rude! If it wasnt for adoption most or alot of childeren would still be in foster care or worse! Adoption is a very good thing and can be wonder for both the parents and the child!! Its not perfect but what family is ? Even birth parents make mistakes thats why most end up for adoption in the first place!!
@MrsLeanneElliott yes how very rude of you to bully, there are children in fostercare that remain in fostercare becasue people want fresh new infants so why dont you direct your problem to the real problem to the adopters, this viseo is about infant adoption duh, so take your cause up some whee else
@patiencepoet What's so freaky about it? My parents chose adoption because my mom is physically unable to have children; should they have been denied parenthood because of that? My sister and I may not be related to them by blood, but they are our parents.
@JakAndKeiraFan yes is the answer, have you learned not to take no for an answer or to accept it if you were unable to procreate, just curious, babies are being robbed from their mothers and your basically saying that it's okay, no it's never okay its wrong, tell you what go to an agency tell em your girlfriend is expecting and that you are scared and see what happens step by step the maybe you will understand
okay this is just crap ...sorry but this vid speaks very little truth . You know i am a 100% supporter of adoption and women who choose adoption for there baby . At least they are giving them a chance giving them a chance to be with a loving family . The only mothers i dont have respect for are the ones who leave there babies in trash cans and dumps . now those babies really dont have a chance of living a good life ...sometimes they do if someone finds them but sometimes help comes to late .
Adoption is a business to MANY, this is true. That said, as the mom of three internationally adopted girls, from DREADFUL orphanages, it was more of a rescue. Everybody wins here. The girls are thriving and happy. There will always be greedy adoption "facilitators." But, do not trash the entire adoption process, because of your pain. Children NEED to be rescued and loved. They always will...
Shared on my blog: splitfeathers.blogspot.com - thank you for making this video!
tracedemeyer 1 month ago
This should be called adoption lies. I am an adoptive Mom and have open adoptions with our birthfamilies. Yes, we talk on the phone. Yes, we send pictures. Yes, they come over and have come over whenever they want. We were invited into the delivery room with our second daughter. It was a beautiful experience and we all cried. Our daughters' birthmothers lovingly placed them in our arms and we will make sure our girls are aware of that.
slinkycrane 2 months ago
@slinkycrane Adoption TRUTH is exactly what it should be called. Why do so many adopters have the nerve and feel the need toy denounce what natural mothers say when they speak their truths. Does the truth ruffle your adopter feathers? Too damn bad...
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@salmonmcmannis Haha .. Some women are out ( and men) should NOT be allowed to have children .. DO i really need to rhyme off reasons for you .....Pick up a local news paper sometime.
MrsLeanneElliott 2 months ago
@MrsLeanneElliott and so many people have have no business adopting. Do I really need to rhyme off reasons for you? Talk to the millions of adoptees and natural mothers who lost out on each other needlessly. Get over yourself, please.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@salmonmcmannis Just because someone CAN give birth does not mean they should.
MrsLeanneElliott 2 months ago
@MrsLeanneElliott and just because someone thinks they are owed some other woman's infant, does not mean they should get that infant. What's wrong, you can't produce a child of your own? No one's problem.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@salmonmcmannis This must not be the same as in the UK . Not sure where your from . But most adoptions are due to a break down with the birth parents. Some children are abused and neglected , I feel all should be done to keep a child with the birth parents but sometimes its not what`s best for the child . ( most cases) Leaving a child to be neglected and abused is NOT good for anyone and adoption into a safer family is best for the child.
MrsLeanneElliott 2 months ago
I love this. Family preservation is more important than family separation. So sad that children are given up for adoption, which is most often a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I was only given up because my dad was pressured; if he had been shown other options, he might have kept me. I know it was the hardest thing he ever did.
dinochickforever 2 months ago
Keeping the baby is better then adoption in most cases, and adoption is better then abortion in all cases!
immaalysia 2 months ago
You know most of this shit is not true! I am adopted and don't remember my parents ever having to go through any of this shit! Who the hell are you? Do you even know anything about this subject!?!?!? Learn the whole truth not this shit!
Kiyouko1123 2 months ago
Thank you so much for this video. See my story on fb....Volunteers-of-America-Black-Market-Babies created to expose the TRUTH about the coercion in adoption.
bayoubelle57 2 months ago
Adoptions should happen once a woman has already given birth, arrangements shouldn't be made during her pregnancy. Once the baby has been given up to a agency those are the babies that need to be offerd and not just have agencies point adopters to pregnant teens.
MetalIsEvolution 2 months ago
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MrsLeanneElliott 2 months ago
I'm not sure whats worst damaging a child for life by giving him up for adoption or having an abortion..
NotUrPuppet08 3 months ago
@NotUrPuppet08 : Really????
krissykirchmann 2 months ago
@krissykirchmann yeah
NotUrPuppet08 2 months ago
@NotUrPuppet08 : Not every child who is placed for adoption is damaged for life-what an ignorant thought. Not every birth mother regrets placing their child for adoption. Sometimes adoptions end up with happy endings. Sometimes families that chose not to place their child for adoption have sad endings. Seen the new lately???
krissykirchmann 2 months ago
@krissykirchmann well yeah thats why I'm pro choice but personally I would hate my parents for giving me up for adoption no matter what their reason is. I know a few people that have been adopted or in foster homes and not all of them are happy about it. Some people are scarf for life and werent being treated good at all with their new families. I'm just saying
NotUrPuppet08 2 months ago
This is true but it really is whats best for the mother and the baby why would you dare kill an insant life?
babyG15m 3 months ago
LOL birthmothers.info is ONE of the worst possible sites to go to. Seems like it was created by people who are mentally ill.
sjkobold 3 months ago
Oh and my comment is not including all mums and dads whos child is put up for adoption there are millions of reasons. I am also not saying adoption is always right but 9 out of 10 it is whats best for the child.
MrsLeanneElliott 4 months ago
I'm a big and tough 43 year old man but I tear up sometimes watching these videos. Wish I had had the chance to adopt a child before I got older.
2012Steelerfan 4 months ago
I have one reason why there is absolutely no reason for anyone to be put up for adoption unless the authorities phisically come and take the child away, because it hurts the adopted child like hell, they won't even be able to hear your name or stand the thought of you without feeling resentment, anger, fear or guilt. If there is a choice, don't adopt, it hurts everyone involved...
AMMF93 4 months ago
@AMMF93 - A lot of adopted kids don't have parents.
2012Steelerfan 4 months ago
@2012Steelerfan I wasn't talking about when there is no parents there or when the parent is deemed unfit to be a parent, I am talking about the adoptees whose parents had a choice but chose to adopt them or if people are unsure of whether they should give there child away for adoption.
AMMF93 4 months ago
@AMMF93 And what if that child is being abused or beaten not being fed or cared for in any way what if the mothers only love is her drug addiction and the dad is no where to be seen or he beats her in front of the child or maybe beats the child too what about sexual abuse ????????? am pretty sure adoption into a good happy and safe home is better!
MrsLeanneElliott 4 months ago
I am so shocked by some comments on here about adoptive parents being the bad guys! , Sometimes ( most of the time) the birth parents are the reason the child is up for adoption in the first place, Some adoptions do go wrong it happens but most of the time the child is loved and cared for and hopefully grows up to be able to understand the reasons for their adoption and are able to look for their birth parents if they want to. Not all adopts are bad some people should NOT be allowed to have kids
MrsLeanneElliott 4 months ago
@MrsLeanneElliott I agree with you 100 per cent!
krissykirchmann 2 months ago
@MrsLeanneElliott and you are just the person who should dictate who should and should not have kids, right? Some people should NOT be allowed to adopt someone else's either...!
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@MrsLeanneElliott "Sometimes (most of the time) the birth parents are the reason the child is up for adoption..."
Tell this corrupt government that the millions it spends on false adoption propaganda and "specialists" who con pregnant teens into surrendering their babies, and millions more in federal subsidies to states that separate children from their natural families have little to do with children being "freed" for adoption.
How do you know most adoptees are loved? Their mothers don't!
asynkronos 1 week ago
@MrsLeanneElliott I never said that adoption was a bad thing merely stated the fact that it hurts the adoptee in ways that they don't understand. Of course the parent who abuses their child should probably be locked up.
AMMF93 4 months ago
@AMMF93 I have to totally disagree with you. There are MANY good reasons why children are placed for adoption. My father was adopted and he is now 70 years old. He is the happiest, most gratful person that I know. He has NEVER used his adoption as an excuse to be a miserable person. Life is short. Be happy and don't blame the past for the present or the future.
krissykirchmann 2 months ago
so i know exactly how it feels to be adopted.
kimandalex2011 4 months ago
my birth parents neglected me.
kimandalex2011 4 months ago
I am adopted. At the age of 3 years old
kimandalex2011 4 months ago
@kimandalex2011 me too. though I was in care for 2 years before that...
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1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@raffynjenny: "love one another and also adopt the mother". Just so you know, I don't want to adopt my child's birthmother-that doesn't make me a bad person. It is not my responsibility to save the world, I just wanted to be the mom of a child that really needed one. You claim to be so religous, but you are VERY judgemental. Quit shaming me already. Good night
krissykirchmann 5 months ago
@krissykirchmann Of course you don't want to adopt the natural mother. You want to make off with HER infant and act as if she doesn't exist. Typical adopter narcissist. It is not some other's woman's responsibility to provider you with her infant either, just so you can play impostor mommy to her baby.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising I didn’t ask anybody to provide me with a child-I can do that on my own. What I did was happily accept the responsibility of raising a child that somebody brought into the world but could not take care of. I did this because how I became a mother wasn’t important to me, I just knew that I wanted to be a mom, and adoption is what made me a mother first. I would not change a thing in my life story. We are a happy family that looks past race, and genetics. It is called LOVE.
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann wow you again, you seem to forget a really huge and important fact, this adoption is NOT about you nor is it your story. Another thing, who said anything about race, genetics will always trump the fantasy world of adoption, the Natural family will always trump fake families, yes I said fake that's the truth, legal fiction is just that fiction, please get over yourself and put the child ahead of yourself, you will never erase genetics or nature or truly replace her mother!
raffynjenny 1 month ago
This Is Crap! Adoption is better that Abortion that is just Murder
jtofragoso 5 months ago
@jtofragoso There not telling you to abort. There telling you to keep your baby or you and the baby will suffer from emmotional trauma
BieberxGChance 5 months ago
@AtarahDerek:I wasn’t aware that surname was used by Americans-we live in Asia and that is the term that is used here, but I had not heard it used when we were living in the States.
krissykirchmann 5 months ago
@raffynjenny: not that it matters, but I also don't think you are from the US. You used the term surname and that is not an American term. Where are you from?
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann I am from the United States, just because I used surname which is proper English doesn't mean I from another country.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann I use the term "surname" all the time, and I'm a proud Montanan. I didn't think she was American because every pro-adoption American Christian knows about SCC's Show Hope adoption ministry, and most are aware of the fact that he lost his youngest adopted daughter in a car accident.
But then, she's so lousy at making simple connections that I have to wonder if she has to be told which of her socks match.
AtarahDerek 6 months ago
I am her mommy and that is all that matters. I am the one who has not left her side for weeks at a time in the hospital, I am the one who she cries for when she is not feeling well and needs a cuddle and some kisses. I am the one to comfort her when she wakes from a nightmare, or has an argument with a friend. I am the one who laughs at all of her jokes-even though most of them aren’t that funny and I am the one loves her the most.I am her mom. Always have been, always well be.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@starbucksfrappachino that's great that you were able to get your original birth certificate, and you're wrong I am not speaking as if I am above anyone, I do know a thing or two but not everything, I am a mother of adoption loss and I am half adopted plus my best friend was adopted so you are wrong on all accounts, my parents wanted me too and my son he was wanted as well by both me and his adopters that mistreated and still mistreats him to this day.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
I have never been more sure of anything in my life than I am of being my child’s mother, so don’t worry about hurting my feelings. Little souls find their way to you whether they are from your womb, or someone else’s. My little soul found me and the world is as it should be.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
Great Video, Thank you for getting the truth out here that so many have no clue about which is okay in time more and more women and men will understand.and in time a whole new generation of mothers of adoption loss and adoptese will be speaking out as well just as they are now. This is about TRUTH not an isolated experience, those who say that is an attempt to get mothers to go back into nothingness and get adoptese to comply, also this is bout INFANT adoption different than Orphan or foster.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
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raffynjenny 6 months ago
@starbucksfrappachino I don't know all but I do know false birth certificates are given, and yes I do know what I am talking about. Judging from your emotional response and belittling words, do you have any idea what you are talking about? Seems I hit a sensitive spot, however your response says more about you than it does anyone else, sorry you feel so terrible about yourself. P.S. I will never shut up, buh bye
raffynjenny 6 months ago
I am not sure how I insulted you-I was just making an observation based on what I have read. I am not attacking you, just representing the ‘other side’ of adoption. I became a mom through adoption-as a first choice, not a last option. I have helped several other couples become parents through adoption. I have my Bachelor of Science in Psychology and I am currently in school to get my MSW (Master’s in Social Work). I plan to make a HUGE impact in the world of adoption.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann that's great for you congrats on your success's, I also plan to make a HUGE impact as well as a lot of other mothers and adoptese.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann Oh no. Thanks for the warning. You plan on contributing to legalized kidnapping by coercing more young women out of their infants. Fantastic. Bet your an 'open adoption' advocate too, telling people to say anything to get their salivating mouths on a womb wet infant.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
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krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann Oh we know, savior adopter mommy, very special entitled you are the only one who makes the world a special place.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
What you are spewing is absolute nonsense. It might be your personal experience-which if it is, you should have gone to the police and filed a report for child abduction-but it is not every woman who places her child for adoption experience. FYI: You do not have to give birth to a child to love that child as your own. As human beings we are the only creature hard wired to take care of children that did not come from our own womb. This is called evolution, maybe it is time you evolved a bit...
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
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raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny: Please enlighten me and tell me what other animal is hard-wired to care for offspring that is not their own? Human brains are hard-wired to form relationships-this is where nurture comes from. I am not making ‘silly noise’ I am stating a fact-google it. If you don’t want people to comment on your video, take it off youtube. Otherwise learn how to have an intelligent debate and don’t just tell people to shutup.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@raffynjenny First of all I am not debating with anyone second this is NOT my video, also maybe you need some lessons in empathy and compassion. Just because a girl of young age at the time of her child's birth does not mean she will be that age forever. Adoption is a permanent solution to temporary circumstances. also I can have quite intelligent debates with out minded non biased persons such as yourself, have you carried a child of your own, brought that beautiful life into the world?
raffynjenny 6 months ago
contin. loved that life with all of your being, and then separated and completely cut off and thrown to roadside and expected to pretend you never did this never went through any of this? You obviously have no clue or inkling as to what that is like, did you grow up not fitting in, being belittled and compared to persons that aren't even related to you? If you have experienced neither, no offense you are not one who should be judging and saying how things should be. SHAME ON YOU.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny Where do I even begin?! Abortion should be the last resort, not adoption. If you didn’t want to place your child for adoption, why didn’t you go to your church for help? If you truly wanted to mother your child you could have found a way-many women do. Just because you give birth to a child does not mean that you are capable of being a mom. My child is in a much better place with us then she ever could have been with her genetic donor. My child knows who her real parents are: US!
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann Genetic DONOR? Wow you are a true psycho... nutjob!!!!!!!!!!!
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising: But is OK for you to call me an "imposter mommy"? Who is the true psycho? Certainly not me- I wouldn't have been approved for adoption if I had any mental issues. I am a perfectly sane, fertile, happy lady!
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann you ARE an impostor mommy. You come here to degrade and dehumanize natural mothers who are speaking their truths and want to claim title all for you greedy narcissistic self... You wouldn't have been approved for adoption if you didn't have the cash to buy yourself someone else's baby.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann Why are you trolling around this page anyway, if you are so against what this video is about. It is your pathetic attempt to silence anyone who has something negative (and rightfully so)to say about baby brokers and their paying customers. We aren't going away, much to yours and so many other adopters horror. Get used to it. Perhaps the truth being spoken will prevent some young, vulnerable woman from losing her child to the likes of people like you.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising Trolling? I am just replying to the 8 comments I received from you in my email inbox over the last 2 days. The reason I even found this video is because someone who posted on here sent a rude comment about my daughter to an adoption video that I had uploaded. FREEDOM OF SPEECH and OPINIONS...
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising If it makes you feel better, then go ahead and call me IMPOSTER mommy. My daughter prefers to call me mom, mama, or mommy-sometimes mother if she is upset with me. I wasn’t approved for adoption because I had cash-a lot of families who adopt aren’t wealthy-I was approved because I am a happy, healthy person who is in a solid, happy marriage and who has an amazing, supportive and loving family..
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann . And I am not degrading or dehumanizing anybody. I TOTALLY believe in freedom of speech. Just sharing my story and my opinions-just like everybody else on this site.
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@1969PhoenixRising Amen, that is the truth and they do not do a mental evaluation with the home studies, notice above comment where she's (@krissykirchmann ) trying to insinuate some sort of mental illness ha, is that all she's got , it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the accuser ,most of the time is the one with the problem.
raffynjenny 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann so you even know what an imposter mommy is? check out legal fiction, educate yourself, good grief lady
raffynjenny 1 month ago
@IrisHoney13 i hate to burst a bubble here but a great majority do go that way, but what do ya expect the babies weren't and aren't blank slates they will have the traits of their natural parents and those traits need to be respected and understood as best as an adoptive parent can try to understand, never never try to mold the child let the child be who they're meant to be, by trying to mold you will cause them internal grief except them as they are encourage their talents plus some!
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@starbucksfrappachino honey unless an infant is abused there is no justifying adoption point blank. Also your feelings do matte and I am so sorry you were separated from your family of origin cut off from your ancestry, have a false birth certificate and what ever else you may have gone through I am so sorry, the industry is to blame
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@GDOBSSOR: most natural mother's aren't abusive?! where did you get that? what about the women who just threw her baby from the 4th story of a car park? or casey anthony? both of these women had thought about placing their babies for adoption, but were talked out of it.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann what about that woman and what about Casey Anthony that's two women out of how many millions of women , it's terrible what happened with those women but guess what the majority of women are not planning to abuse their unborn infant child that is a part of them mother/child are one they are a unit, don't believe ask a doctor. Infant adoption and it's predators need to go unless PEOPLE can love one another & also adopt the mother to keep mother/child together.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
adoption isn’t an easy decision and it should not be taken lightly. it is forever, but sometimes it is the best decision for the child. every child deserves a chance at a good life and a happy, stable environment. not ever woman who gets pregnant and gives birth to a child can provide this. adoption has been a huge blessing in my life-my father was adopted and had amazing adoptive parents and we also adopted our child and wouldn’t have it any other way. don't believe the hype...
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann what hype shouldn't be believed? Adoption should be a last resort always and no young woman should be approached while pregnant and encouraged to meet up with pap's or look through files etc. that is coercion and is wrong You can not take a couple of bad apples and then generalize about pregnant women you're not better.Adoption is women's crime on women, the have not's vs. the haves so to speak, the video is spot on if one must adopt, love one another and also adopt the mother
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenn : Where do I even begin?! Abortion should be the last resort, not adoption. If you didn’t want to place your child for adoption, why didn’t you go to your church for help? If you truly wanted to mother your child you could have found a way-many women do. Just because you give birth to a child does not mean that you are capable of being a mom. My child is in a much better place with us then she ever could have been with her genetic donor. My child knows who her real parents are: US!
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
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raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny At 15 you are still a child yourself and not capable of being a great parent-have you ever watched ‘Teen Mom’ of ‘16 and Pregnant’? These babies should have been placed for adoption. Your parents made the right decision by having you place your child for adoption. I am guessing from your style of writing, vocabulary choice and immature attitude that you are not much older than 15 now, so I will keep things nice and leave you alone.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann Please spare me with your insults, I suppose anyone who does't agree with you then becomes immature with their writing also being criticized, it's okay though it says more about your character and the kind of person you are and NOTHING about me. And no parents now admit they made a terrible choice under pressure themselves, adoption hurt my child and robbed him of a lot.As I said unless you have been through any of this you are merely judging you can not know unless you have!
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann Wow lady you have some nerve. You just pick and choose who should give their infants up for adoption. This is one scary society we live in, to have people like you with that thought process walking among us. I would be very afraid if I was a young woman today...
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
WHAT???? You are one silly lady!
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann No, I will leave that moniker for you. Get way over yourself lady.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@krissykirchmann Honey it's not hype this video is truth, the real HYPE is what the industry and agencies put out there.Living mother's are not meant to be separated from their infants nor infants separated from their living mother's, you do know they've known since as early as the 40's it's not a good thing to do, oh wait they don't tell that part to the one's who lose or the one's who gain. I know lots of people that had AMAZING NATURAL PARENTS my father was raised by is natural mother.....
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny What are you talking about?! This video is someone's opinion and personal experience. It is not only orphans who should have a chance at a good life, every child deserves the best life possible-this is not always done through the brith parents. Adoption is NEVER going to stop. I am sorry you had a crappy life and I do feel bad for you, but move forward, get some help and try and make a positive change in your life. Seriously. I am not trying to be disrespectful, just some advice.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann Excuse me, who said I had a crappy life,just because I agree with everything this video says which is based on truth not experience, doesn't equate to my supposedly having a crappy life wow, move forward what are you talking about, my life is fine however my son's life is another story. I'm pretty sure adoption won't end wish it would though because it's no longer about the child it's about the adults filling a need in most cases, the child is forced to live a lie that's wrong
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny: YOU said you had a crappy life-you gave up your child. I have a 5 year old daughter whom I adopted. She happens to be one of the happiest, smartest, balanced children I have ever seen-I am not the only one who thinks so. You can have a look at her adoption story if you click on my user name. She has always known she is adopted-we keep a picture of her birth family next to her bed and put them in our prayers nightly. Please explain to me how my child is being forced to live a lie?
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann I never said I have had a crappy life, has there been on going grief yes, however my son is the one who ended up with the crappy life and treated horribly by supposed Christians. Does she have her original birth certificate and does she carry her true surname and does she interact with her other family?
raffynjenny 6 months ago
OK if she is living in truth she would know you are not her original mother, however I am pretty sure you have her call you mommy and her other mommy birth mommy, you are both her mommy and she should not be denied interaction with her other mommy it's good for her to on many levels, having a falsified birth certificate does not reflect truth, this is what I mean by living a lie I have more to say but I want to be sensitive to your feelings
raffynjenny 6 months ago
Of course she calls me mommy-that is what I am! And I am her ‘original mom’. She is five years old and she has spent every day of her life with me-how more original can I be? We are not both her mommy- a ‘mommy’ has a very different role than a ‘birthmother’. Her birthmother did exactly that-gave birth to her. Clearly she is not living a lie. Her life is what it is.
krissykirchmann 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann you are not the original mother and never will be you are her adoptive mother, the woman you just love to dehumanize by calling her a birthmother meaning an incubator is the little girls original mother, yes you are parenting her you are her parent by legal means but you are not the original, as she grow and enters in to her teens this is when you will see the changes and she carries the traits of her original parents, that should be encouraged so she never feels bad
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@krissykirchmann You are not her mother. You are her adopter caretaker. Keep living in fantasy land. Every time that child looks in the mirror nothing of you will be staring back at her, that is a fact that you can never erase.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising You can call me whatever you would like, but I am my daughter’s mother. We may not share the same genes, but we share 5 years of memories with a lifetime of new memories ahead. This trumps everything else to me. And when she looks in the mirror she sees exactly what she should: herself. I love my child not because she looks like me or my husband, or shares our genes, but just for being her. She is perfect. This is unconditional love and nothing trumps that. Best of luck to you
krissykirchmann 1 month ago
i have an adopted daughter and have pride in calling her bm my friend and family - we contact her as often as possible and will will go back to visit when dd is older - my daughter is a confident loving child so please dont tar all adoptions with the one brush - adoption does work and adoptive children are loved by all the birth and forever families - they grow up proud and i will always be a proud mum xx
bclocke 7 months ago
@bclocke Really you just gave away your true feelings you called the child you adopted's mother a bm, she so much more than that, you contact her when possible, you do realize this is her child and you keep them as separate as possible for what reason? No adoption does not always work and what's even more sickening is when a mother realizes within the time frame allowed to change her mind the pap's take it to court that's sick it's not their child ah but it sure shows their true colors though!
raffynjenny 6 months ago
I will say I realize the system needs reform. But, having spent the last few hours reading the often times outright hateful anti-adoption side of things I think have come to a realization; women and adopted children are incapable of making rational decisions towards adoption in general. Not meant to be rude but women, biologically, are too empathic to not depend almost entirely on gut feelings or their heart in matters concerning mothers and children and adoptees are too personally involved.
Cajaquarius 8 months ago
@Cajaquarius Infant adoption is a multibillion-dollar global racket. Read E.J. Graff's article in Foreign Policy on the rampant corruption in international adoptions and Kathryn Joyce's "Shotgun Adoption" online. Stranger adoptions, domestic and international, are child-trafficking and slavery. The evidence is damning. Even Christian adoption agency pricelists show that children are graded and priced according to their race, age and health status. This is the definition of evil.
asynkronos 7 months ago
@asynkronos Yes, the adoption agencies that function out of other nations with little to no Human Rights oversight and even the bad ones here are in need of some serious reform. That said calling all adoption slavery or evil is not rational. Just because some stranger adoption is done in a bad way doesn't mean all stranger adoption is automatically bad - that is faulty correlation. Certainly not grounds for attacking people who adopt kids, calling them selfish or damning the whole of the system.
Cajaquarius 7 months ago 2
@Cajaquarius Adoption is unconstitutional and contrary to sound mental health practice. Separation traumatizes mothers and babies but mothers are not warned of it. The law allows people to buy children and replace their real birth certificates with bogus ones that list the adopters' names in place of the natural parents'. It lets them hide the truth from adoptees and their parents. Adoption was corrupt from the start. The government promotes this abuse-for-profit. It is indefensible.
asynkronos 7 months ago 2
@Cajaquarius stranger adoption is just that stranger adoption, what is bad is separating the infant and mother for adoption purposes which does cause a trauma to both as they are one unit until 9 months of age for baby, yes all is bad in this sense, we are not talking about older children removed from homes we are talking fresh babies just out of mama, all agencies make a killing off that baby and write it up as expenses it is baby selling and it is wrong on all accounts.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@Cajaquarius I am going to assume you are a man, now why do you suppose there are outright hateful anti-adoption comments? let me clue you in, when a woman falls pregnant her hormone are all whacked the industry knows this and thrives on it they schmooze, coerce, and blind side these woman into doing the whole adoption thing a woman shouldn't be approached during pregnancy about adoption, she shouldn't be making any kind of decision until she is fully recovered at least 6-8 weeks postpartum
raffynjenny 6 months ago
see the way things are set up and the tactics used and they do take full advantage of the pregnant woman as well as the potential adopters, the pap's buy the propaganda the agency makes a killing off just one baby they convinced a mother to place it's disgusting, they are not honest with either pap's or mothers and two people get hurt out it mother and her child, and you bet mothers are upset and speaking out the truth, call it hate but it's not hate it's pain my friend.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
Adoptese are also coming out of the closet and speaking up about the pain and what adoption has really been like for them and some had great and wonderful Ap's and some not so much, I commend the adoptese coming out and telling truth it need to be heard they have been quiet for a long time but not anymore and it's sad that people aren't listening people just want what they want and don't care about anything else so sad, mothers are not interchangeable, mother and infant are a unit.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
They were never meant to be separated infants and mothers that is, both adoptese and their mothers they have been denied both suffered in silence for a long time, some would never tell their adoptive parents but behind the scenes it's a whole other thing going on. The pain is and was needless most infant adoptions are needless, it brings about a pain and suffering unless you have lived it you will never understand it so please do not judge something you don't understand thank you :-)
raffynjenny 6 months ago
I considered adoption and ended up keeping my baby, but I think adoption is good in some cases. I think that the mom must be for sure about her decision though, because after you meet the little baby, it's so hard to say goodbye forever. It was the worst pain I ever felt in the hospital when I thought I had only two days to be with her. But I know some people who have felt their baby being adopted was best. Follow your heart!!
silverakisame 8 months ago
This made me mad . I'm adopted and the reason that I was put up for adoption is because my biological parents were poor . They gave me up because they didn't want me living a life of poverty . This video is wrong and un-true .
KneeSoxNGlowstixx 8 months ago
It's true that open adoptions aren't legally enforceable, and that if you give up your child for open adoption and the adoptive parents decide to close it off, there's nothing you can do.
GDOBSSOR 9 months ago
@GDOBSSOR Not if you created legal contracts with visitation rights.
angelhatesyou75217 8 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Even then, the law ONLY provides for closed adoptions. Nowhere in the adoption act does it say you are allowed adoption. And most people would not realise they need a legal contract. They just think the law provides for them. They are coerced into giving up their babies, which is why 80% of open adoptions are closed.
GDOBSSOR 8 months ago
@GDOBSSOR "Coerced"? That's like saying they were coerced into getting knocked up in the first place. I know there are cases where people were lied to but that's rare. You give your kid up for adoption, you know what you're getting into. This video is a joke.
angelhatesyou75217 8 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Uh, no it's not. Read any book on adoption. Lots of women are placed under pressure to give their children up for adoption, not necessarily by agencies, but by society, parents, partners, etc, who don't want the responsibility or shame of looking after a child, and don't care about the feelings of the woman. If you are trying to tell me this DOESN'T happen, you're living in lala land.
GDOBSSOR 8 months ago 2
@angelhatesyou75217 Ever read "The Girls who went away"? Because similar things to the events of that book can still happen today. Not saying this is the way in all cases, but it is PERFECTLY LEGAL for the birth mother to be seen as little more than a convenient slut. THIS is what is wrong. In New Zealand where I live, the Adoption Act was last updated in 1955. When I mentioned this to my mum, she just said, "It's called open adoption", but there wasn't open adoption in 1955.
GDOBSSOR 8 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 So there wouldn't be now either. And my mum's reaction told me that a lot of the public wouldn't know that open adoption isn't legally enforceable either - certainly not without a lawyer's contract, which an adoption agency probably wouldn't tell you about, as most of them exist for the adoptive parents, and although most adoptive kids would be fine staying with their natural parents, an agency would rarely tell you that either, as they have a 7 year waiting list.
GDOBSSOR 8 months ago 2
@GDOBSSOR Really, people don't know it might be a good idea to get a legally protective contract when dealing with legal issues? The adoption agency has to tell them? If you're that ignorant then you deserve whatever comes to you in life. As for the kids wanting to stay with their natural parents, well most kids would also be fine eating candy all day every day but I think society has established children aren't always capable of making the best choices for themselves.
angelhatesyou75217 8 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Wrong. NOBODY deserves to have their kids snatched away from them unless they are actually abusive and most natural mothers aren't, they are just young and don't have a lot of life experience. As for you comparing candy to family relationships - that just shows how really superficial you are and I really hope you don't ever adopt.
GDOBSSOR 8 months ago 3
@GDOBSSOR Hey moron, I was comparing a child perspective to what they need vs what they want, not candy to family relationships you fucking idiot. You sound like a little kid. Do you have any experience what so ever in the subject? I give respect to the people actually posting their life stories as warning about what can happen in adoption, but I have a feeling you're just talking shit out your ass.
angelhatesyou75217 8 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Hey you really need to watch your language and perhaps use a different analogy cause I sure read the same thing and understood the same thing that you wrote, then you bust out with this childish name calling and cursing, why so defensive, and actually she she knows her stuff inside and out and isn't talking smack like you just did, please grow up and stop with the cursing and name calling that really shows immaturity, we are adults here lets act like one okay
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@raffynjenny Nothing I said was defensive. Grow up indeed, adults don't usually freak out at the use of a "bad word".
angelhatesyou75217 5 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Most women taken advantage of are young teenager do not call them ignorant please, and your point about children eating candy makes no sense, what she meant is that agencies know a mother is fully capable of raising her own child just fine, but they don't care they have a waiting list clients waiting money to be made do ya really think they are there to help a mother out, they are there to help her out of her baby and that's it. Open your eyes for crying aloud geeze
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 Yes coerced, and no it's not like saying someone was coerced into falling pregnant, Mothers are lies to all the time thousands and thousands of them it is NOT rare, and NO a mother does not completely know what she is getting into for Christs sakes they haven't even given mother time to recover postpartum her hormone levels are out of whack she should not be making any life altering decisions until she is fully recovered 6-8 weeks, 90% of the time mother not fully informed
raffynjenny 6 months ago
So please don;t generalize maybe the agencies tell you that mothers know exactly what they are getting into but I will tell them to their face and in front of you or who ever that they are lying. This video is spot on and thank goodness it's up for people to learn the truth.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
@angelhatesyou75217 that's not true the legal contracts are not enforceable, once parental rights are signed away there are no rights, not for visitation not for anything. I know what i'm talking about I know from experience and lots of other mothers who have been burned in this way also more than burned, betrayed times a billion is more like it and these people are raising our child or have raised our child it says a lot about their character never would I want someone so shady raising baby
raffynjenny 6 months ago
This video is biased and your sources for your quotations are questionable. You also act like a majority of adoptions are infants. I work for a dcf and see the reality of adoption everyday. I am not denying the dark side, but do not act like mothers who are coerced into giving up babies represent the majority of American adoptions. I do not like your title "Adoption Truth." I am not denying this video is representative of some stories, but you're being misleading by saying it is the whole.
iReadPennyDreadfuls 9 months ago
@iReadPennyDreadfuls I beg to differ with you as one of the majority, and no one is acting like anything and biased perhaps in the eyes of the industry or the likes of them, you really think they want the truth out, Infant adoptions as whole yes that is what this is about, I assume dfs is similar to dhs or cps also known for the corruption and part in separating innocent families all in the name of money, federal funding is generated and bonus's for adoptions. no misleading here thanks!
raffynjenny 6 months ago
your attempt at guilt fails and this video is nothing more than hateful lies. You cannot speak for everyone and clearly need psychological help. Someone has some issues!!
brentwithani 9 months ago
@brentwithani, Mr. you totally miss the point man and no one is in need of any psychological help for having the guts to speak truth, this is about infant adoption and no one is trying to speak for everyone but thank goodness they spoke for the majority who are no longer in the fog that maybe you're in, if it triggered a guilt or nerve within you, maybe you better do some research dig deep and research hard, oh and the whole psychological card used in an attempt to shut someone up FAILED
raffynjenny 6 months ago
Fixing to go meet with my birth mother again so I'm looking around for some videos to give me courage and I watch this an I just want to cry now. I know that it's not saying that it's my fault or anything but now I few horrible that I'm adopted. I love my mom and I love my biological mother but in a different way. I was thinking that adoption would be shown as a happy thing, now I just feel sad... like I could of not been born and things would of been better off for everyone.
tigoxgirl 9 months ago
@tigoxgirl don't feel that way and do not carry it, just know you have every right to love both your mothers and fathers with out guilt, terrible things were done but that is not your fault or any other adoptese and quite frank not your mothers fault either, you now know the truth, but it is what it is and awareness need to be spread, I hope your visit went fine and never feel guilty for spending time with ya mama you are not betraying anyone you can love both.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
I understand that adoption should not be entered in to lightly. What this video dose not consider is that some young women who become pregnant are not ready to raise a baby. I would never tell a young mom that she would forget her baby or that it would be easy. If she is pregnant and not ready to raise a baby she has a few choises, and none of them are easy. I do think that young moms who are not prepared to raise a baby can make choises that are harder to live with then placing the baby.
angela510rn 10 months ago
@angela510rn a young mother should not be separated from her infant she needs support true support that is , why not love one another and adopt the mother too so she and her baby can stay together, however being young , poor and so on is never a good reason to cause a trauma and let me tell you nothing is harder more painful or more traumatizing than being separated from your first born infant, most mothers are thrown out like a used rag doll after they get the baby ,you couldn't be more wrong
raffynjenny 6 months ago
Nice vid. Even people who are not involved in the adoption process see that it is wrong. A maternal bond is very special. Of course, it is better than abortion. By best advice is find someone who needs help and support and help them out of the kindness of your heart, because everyone else is just doing it for the money.
MrBrian987987 11 months ago
There are so many children in the orphanages that don't have anybody and need loving parents, and many don't get adopted and live their childhood life without a loving gamily.. I am a young mother of 2 beautiful boys and giving them up was NEVER on my mind.. I don’t know any mother that regrets keeping her baby but I do know mothers who regret giving them up and there is nothing more painful . Keep your baby, when you look into her eyes you’ll know you made the right decision.
dorinuta20 11 months ago 4
When I was born, my birth mother was 19 years old and in no position to raise a child. She placed me for adoption because she felt that I deserved a better life than she would be able to provide. I was adopted at the age of five days, and I couldn't ask for better parents. I thank God for my family and for my birth mother's selflessness.
JakAndKeiraFan 11 months ago
@JakAndKeiraFan Better life, hmm what's a better life having more things materially, money, I'd of rather had my family than the material advantages any day, plus I never felt like I fit in especially at family gatherings, I was alwways told I could do things just like a cousin of mine and when I didn't and wanted to do my own thing I was told I was wishy washy and unstable just because I wanted to use my own natural talents, birthmom regretted everyday and I love my parents but I love my mom 2
raffynjenny 11 months ago
what if the mother wants to put the child up for adoption ?? their own choice ? some mothers can even choose the parents they want to adopt there child and still have some contact, stop making adoption black and white because every case is different! and lets be honest some mothers that give birth arnt fit to be parents!
MrsLeanneElliott 1 year ago
@MrsLeanneElliott this video is spot on and makes you feel uncomfortable, well guess what too bad, it's the truth don't like it don't watch it
raffynjenny 11 months ago
@raffynjenny No its not , Just because you can give birth doesnt mean you should be a mother or farther!! Lots of kids in care wouldnt be alive if they was left with their birth parents look how money die at the hands of there REAL parents . abuse , neglect, need i go on ? Adoption is hard on the birth mother but sometimes its whats best for the child , Please do not try to clime that all women who give birth have a right to that child some mothers are not good parents ( farthers too).
MrsLeanneElliott 11 months ago
@MrsLeanneElliott it's THEIR real parents. not there, genius, holier than thou adopter...
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@MrsLeanneElliott for someone so secure in her role as I AM THE BEST ADOPTER MOMMY IN THE UNIVERSE HEAR ME ROAR, you sure spend a lot of time here (and I suspect elsewhere) demeaning natural parents. You aren't the real mother. Get over it.
1969PhoenixRising 1 month ago
@1969PhoenixRising hey i simply answer comments when i get an e-mail its really that simple and don`t pretend to know anything about my life in the REAL world. I am all for natural parents that protect and love their family as any parent should. SOME people should not be parents there for adoption is needed to allow that child a normal happy life they would NOT get in an abusive family.
MrsLeanneElliott 1 month ago
AWESOME! Adoption is awful on all fronts for most situations and even when adoption is called for, a perm. placement under guardianship with a family member (blood family to the child, preferrably the mother's side) would be more beneficial than some freaky people wanting to call another person's kid their own.
patiencepoet 1 year ago
@patiencepoet How very rude! If it wasnt for adoption most or alot of childeren would still be in foster care or worse! Adoption is a very good thing and can be wonder for both the parents and the child!! Its not perfect but what family is ? Even birth parents make mistakes thats why most end up for adoption in the first place!!
MrsLeanneElliott 1 year ago
@MrsLeanneElliott yes how very rude of you to bully, there are children in fostercare that remain in fostercare becasue people want fresh new infants so why dont you direct your problem to the real problem to the adopters, this viseo is about infant adoption duh, so take your cause up some whee else
raffynjenny 11 months ago
@patiencepoet What's so freaky about it? My parents chose adoption because my mom is physically unable to have children; should they have been denied parenthood because of that? My sister and I may not be related to them by blood, but they are our parents.
JakAndKeiraFan 11 months ago
@JakAndKeiraFan yes is the answer, have you learned not to take no for an answer or to accept it if you were unable to procreate, just curious, babies are being robbed from their mothers and your basically saying that it's okay, no it's never okay its wrong, tell you what go to an agency tell em your girlfriend is expecting and that you are scared and see what happens step by step the maybe you will understand
raffynjenny 6 months ago
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This is great and beautiful. Well done and keep strong.
twinklepops15 1 year ago
This is great and beautiful. Well done and keep strong.
twinklepops15 1 year ago 2
women in British Columbia are being forced to adopt their children by abusive
Ministry for children and families I know I am not the only one this happened to!
lisa38arlin 1 year ago 2
I was forced to give up my children for adoption and the truth is
this is happening!
lisa38arlin 1 year ago 3
@lisa38arlin There must have been a reason
MrsLeanneElliott 1 year ago
okay this is just crap ...sorry but this vid speaks very little truth . You know i am a 100% supporter of adoption and women who choose adoption for there baby . At least they are giving them a chance giving them a chance to be with a loving family . The only mothers i dont have respect for are the ones who leave there babies in trash cans and dumps . now those babies really dont have a chance of living a good life ...sometimes they do if someone finds them but sometimes help comes to late .
jacksintroy 1 year ago
@jacksintroy What you had to say is pure bs , this video is truth like it or not, you will see soon just wait keep watching the news.
raffynjenny 6 months ago
Adoption is a business to MANY, this is true. That said, as the mom of three internationally adopted girls, from DREADFUL orphanages, it was more of a rescue. Everybody wins here. The girls are thriving and happy. There will always be greedy adoption "facilitators." But, do not trash the entire adoption process, because of your pain. Children NEED to be rescued and loved. They always will...
roshkova 1 year ago
@ no way not everybody wins orphanages make money and the care that could have been given to
a mother and her child is given to a child taker, you are helping to create a market.
nadeseh 1 year ago