kanonieri monarkii? kai ra gamecina) kaxetshic, imeretshic da kartlshic bagrationebi meobden) e.i 3 shtoa da titeuls sheudzlia gaxdes Monarki. sasurvelia rogor simbolurat) mtavrobashi arunda ereodes! magram es David 13 bagrationi ara raa! amas rodesac mitvreba, xan shorenas gamoekideba, xan tanyas, mase sadaa, tu mefoba unda, sakartvelo unda kargat caradginos) Monarki saxelmcifos sarkea).. ara ragac es biji armomcons mefet) araseriozuli bijia
aq araris laparaki titulze da ragac regaliebze es aris simbolo qveynis da am qveynis istoriis bagrationta dinastia udzvelesia mtels evropashi zustad vici da sheidzleba mtels msoplioshi amdeni saukunistvis arcert dinastias ar gaudzlia da es chveni da chveni qveynis istoria da amis agdgena araris azrs moklebuli
Is it so, that even "younger" men in Georgia have huge bellies like David Bagrationi? Looks a bit disproportioned and doesn't give an impression of vigour, on the contrary! I suggest. as long prince Bagrationi isn't yet king, he should work hard and smart on his figure! Not for reasons of vanity! The people wants someone with an impression of strenght and - SELF-DISCIPLINE! Big bellies and full faces are the opposite of that! They have enough of that in today's self-indulgent politicians!
@Rotebuehl1 The Royal House of Sakartvelo, you probably meant. Sakartvelo is Georgia, in Georgian. These people are scoundrels and hypocrites, because they don't care about the well-being of Georgia, they care about self-promotion. The blood relation to Bagrationi family is not enough. These people are a disgrace to Georgia, unlike the great kings and queens we've had in the past.
Hell to Monarchy Viva Republic and this David Bagrationi is really insufficient for Being called a monarch ... Go to Spain we have been living without Monarchy for 200 years and the times have changed and only a very few of Georgian population would back this long fogotten and old Idea...!!!!!!! "Prince David" had been having affaris and moreover he was ofcoaurse cheatin Anna Bagrationi with Shorena and he's even violent towards women cause he has bet Shoren for several times!!!
@shamugiashvili martalia. Imedia dro mova da nebismieri tituli gakreba. monraki, konstituziuri monarki, prinzi da ase shemdeg. Rodesaz veluri mongolebi gvitevdnen, ra tkma unda kargi iko ganatlebuli da dzlieri monarkis kola, magram 21-e saukunea da gaigvidzet... ris mepe ra mepe? visi mepe?
The Belgium government spends for their King 5 Mln. in a year; Holland for their Queen spends 3 Mln. in a year; Spain spends for their King 1 Mln. in a year... Georgia spends for Misha 120-150 Mln. in a year !!! Does it makes sense ?????
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diaxac kmayopilebi vart dgevandeli xelisuplebit, "mepeebs da dedoplebs " ki sjobian. Dzalit mepe da dzalit dedopali ar gamigia...... mase tu cava sakme, yvelas saidangac urevia mepeebis sisxli, mashin mec gamamepet da egaa . mec var ert-erti dinastiis shtamomavali.... ase rom xalxs kitxon, aravis schirdeba ak mepe
Ra mnishvneloba akvs vin romeli shtodadan , an ra gvarisaa? dgesdgeobit agar aris monarqia saqartveloshi da nuravin ibralebs sakartvelos dedoplobas an mepobas. sisulelea! tvitagiarebuli mepe ga gvaklia sruli bednierebisatvis
I`m not doubt about this false "king" of Georgia, but you Georgians do you really know what the hell you really want?! Are you setisfied with this despotic government ??? So, keep it... and you`ll never become civilized. GOD BLESS THE MONARCHY !!!
Yes, but are you really independent ? You Georgians should know what is right and what is wrong... what kind of governmental sistem is the most democratic... did you know that Monarchical government is more democratic than any other ???
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Real independence doesnt exist, is united states independent? I dont think so. Why is monarchy most democratic, because spot #1 is already taken? to me the very concept of one last name is better than all others is plain demagogic. Royal families in every country got on top, by killing more than others . How they can prove, they are better than others, they arent smart than others despite studding with best teachers in best collages, show me the proof of blue blood.
I feel the Bolshevik inspiration from your words, the way you think is the same with Bolsheviks... I`m talking about system and not about personalities. Please look around the world and you can notice which countries are wealthy and really democratic, please, just do it... and take my friendly advice - Don`t be envy !...
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Envy of what ? Watching prince Charles and Camilla parker as my royals? Envy of paying taxis to support all that ,what is going on in Buckingham palace or any other royal palace? No, thank you, you can have them all. I d rather have my fake democratic parliament and watch people fight in there. and hare is advice for you : MOVE ON, its 21 century already.
P.S. Enjoying argument with you, please continue. sincerely, Nino.
I agree with you, this false "king" is KGB agent, did you know that ? The rightful claimant to the Georgian throne is HRH Crown Prince Nugzar and after him his rightful heir Princess Anna. Thank you ninuka.
Am siujetshi zneli gasarkvevia romelia saqartvelos dedopali.Mxolod kaba tu migvanishnebs mis mdedrobit sqesze.Chatrda pompezuri qorcili,daixarja milioni lari.Da 7 tveshi daamtavres es maskaradi.Dzneli dasajerebelia rom es gaketda samshoblostvis da teritoriebis dasabruneblad.Realurad es iko 2 ambiciuri adamianis nabodvari da shedegic logikuria.Ver gainaciles gvirgvini.Kuchashi uamravi mshieri bavshvia da moxuci.Amis ponze gvanaxeben "Gurami da Nanulis "shous.SHAME ON YOU "anna"
mainc wer wxwdebi, me rogorc cawikitxe ori bagrationi dakorcinda ertmanetse....es sheizleba? chems gwarshi ar sheizleba magalitad mogwaris moywana....da egeni xo mainc natesawebi arian sul ertmanetis.?
es coli win aris? gakceuli mepeebis da princebis ar mcams araperi...kartwelebo mepe agar gwyaws ukwe karga xania da zalit nu ezebt tkweni chirime ra...torem aferisti ywaryware tutaberi ar agwcdeba chweni bedi rom wici...
Listen boy ! I`ve learned much about Georgian Dynasty of Bagrationi`s and it`s obvious that HRH Crown Prince Nugzar is the rightful heir to the Georgian Throne. Why ? Because He`s line descends from the last King of United Georgia - Giorgi VIII (1446-1466).
Imitom, rom shemogzavnili iyo eg arakaci saqartveloshi rata diskreditacia moexdina am ideis ! magram madloba ghmerts rom droze gamoashkarava tavi. Ekutvnodes mainc mephoba am arakacs. Muxranul shtos ar ekutvnis mephoba !!! is rac moxda legitimizmis darghvevaa !!! ANNA ki mamamisis mere Taxtis namdvili memkvidrea !!!
David Mukhraneli, in spite of the fact that he married Prince Nugzars daughter, Princess Anna, per grade he remains a representative of the offshoot of the princes of Mukhrani. This offshoot was formed in the XVth century. His immediate ancestors never reigned in Georgia and that is why by law it is incorrect to call David Mukhraneli HRH. He like his ancestors over the centuries had the title of Prince and served the king and was called princes of Mukhrani.
But dynastically, the Mukhrani are the most senior branch of the Bagrationi dynasty who whose position was usurped by a junior branch centuries ago. By marrying Princess Anna the house that should have ruled has been united with the house that last ruled, and any child of theirs will be both Heir Male and Heir General of the Bagration Dynasty. There is absolutely no doubt; any male child of theirs is rightfully King of Georgia and has an infinitely stronger claim than anyone else.
You better read the books, ok ! you don`t know nothing about Dynastyc legitimasy, so, first of all please learn more. Mukhrani branch is offshoot line and that`s all !!!
The descendants of Vakhtang V, the elder branch of the house of Mukhrani, retained the crown of Kartli until 1724, when the Ottoman invasion forced King Vakhtang VI of Kartli and his household into exile in Russia, without, however, renouncing their rights to the throne.
They formed two lines in exile, both accepted among the ranks of Russian princely nobility, knyaz. One of these, Princes Gruzinsky ("of Georgia"), descended from Vakhang Vs son Bakar and died out in 1892. The other, Princes Bagration, descending from Vakhang Vs nephew Alexander, and became extinct in 1919. The throne of Kartli eventually passed to their distant cousins from the Bagrationi dynasty of Kakheti.
This new royal house defeated all subsequent attempts by the exiled Mukhranian pretenders to reclaim the crown and, by 1762, united both Kartli and Kakheti into a single monarchy.
Constantines scions, the younger branch of the house of Mukhrani, chose to stay in Kartli rather than follow Vakhtang VI to Russia. They remained in possession of Mukhrani under the Kakhetian Bagrationi and continued to exercise within the united kingdom of Georgia the hereditary positions of Mayor of the Palace of Georgia and High Constable of Upper Kartli.
After Russias annexation of Georgia in 1801, Mukhrani ceased to exist as an autonomous princedom and its former rulers were confirmed as Russian princes in 1825 and 1850. This line became the genealogically senior representatives of the Bagrationi dynasty as the elder branch of the house of Mukhrani had gone extinct in its male line by 1919.
After the Bolshevik takeover of Georgia, the family relocated to Europe in 1930. In 1957, Prince Irakli Bagration of Mukhrani, having established himself in Spain, declared himself a head of the Royal House of Georgia, a title that has passed to his descendants and is currently held by his grandson, David who has returned to Georgia.
A rival claim, based on male primogeniture descent from the last kings of Georgia, comes from Prince Nugzar, head of the Bagration-Gruzinsky family, an offshoot of the Bagrationi of Kakheti. The marriage of Nugzar's daughter with David of Mukhrani unites these two branches, their son will be Heir General and Heir Male of both branches.
Prince Davits ancestors have not reigned since 1505. which makes his line a non-sovereign offshoot or ancillary line of noble princes rather than a royal line. In fact, when the Empire of Russia tragically abolished the throne in 1801, they exiled the royal family --- HRH Prince Nugzars ancestors. No one from the other lines (Mukhranski, -Davitishvili, -Babadishi) were exiled to Russia. This is because everyone knew that they were just high nobles and had no right to the throne.
Who says that Georgia cannot have a Queen ? Bla bla bla... There is No Need anymore for such marriages, because we already have Royal Family ! Like In Sweden a more recent constitutional reform changed the rules for succession to equal primogeniture. This allowed for the crown to pass to the eldest child regardless of gender and thus installed Princess Victoria as heir apparent over her younger brother Prince Carl Philip.
blekvia eg, xarichamia, mere ki ara!
virtual7insanity 5 months ago
kanonieri monarkii? kai ra gamecina) kaxetshic, imeretshic da kartlshic bagrationebi meobden) e.i 3 shtoa da titeuls sheudzlia gaxdes Monarki. sasurvelia rogor simbolurat) mtavrobashi arunda ereodes! magram es David 13 bagrationi ara raa! amas rodesac mitvreba, xan shorenas gamoekideba, xan tanyas, mase sadaa, tu mefoba unda, sakartvelo unda kargat caradginos) Monarki saxelmcifos sarkea).. ara ragac es biji armomcons mefet) araseriozuli bijia
gigia19xx 8 months ago
Tavisuplebas DIDEBA!!!!!!
jmramos0109 9 months ago
aq araris laparaki titulze da ragac regaliebze es aris simbolo qveynis da am qveynis istoriis bagrationta dinastia udzvelesia mtels evropashi zustad vici da sheidzleba mtels msoplioshi amdeni saukunistvis arcert dinastias ar gaudzlia da es chveni da chveni qveynis istoria da amis agdgena araris azrs moklebuli
mamukasolo 11 months ago
eseniga gvakldnen...
GoriShori 1 year ago
ver gaqacha davitma, susti bagrationi agmochnda.
MRKVATI 1 year ago
Is it so, that even "younger" men in Georgia have huge bellies like David Bagrationi? Looks a bit disproportioned and doesn't give an impression of vigour, on the contrary! I suggest. as long prince Bagrationi isn't yet king, he should work hard and smart on his figure! Not for reasons of vanity! The people wants someone with an impression of strenght and - SELF-DISCIPLINE! Big bellies and full faces are the opposite of that! They have enough of that in today's self-indulgent politicians!
Rotebuehl1 1 year ago
God bless the Constitutional Monarchy, but without these scoundrels and hypocrites who have nothing to do with the real Royal House of Georgia!
alexanderwotl 1 year ago
@alexanderwotl
Which is then the Royal House of ZaKhartwelu? Why are David and Anna Bagrationi "scoundrels"! You made me curious! Thanks in advance
Rotebuehl1 1 year ago
@Rotebuehl1 The Royal House of Sakartvelo, you probably meant. Sakartvelo is Georgia, in Georgian. These people are scoundrels and hypocrites, because they don't care about the well-being of Georgia, they care about self-promotion. The blood relation to Bagrationi family is not enough. These people are a disgrace to Georgia, unlike the great kings and queens we've had in the past.
alexanderwotl 1 year ago
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rezy and why you dont say that you was cheatin grigol with ana??????.
MrZura7777 1 year ago
rezy and why you dont say that you was cheatin grigol with ana??????.
MrZura7777 1 year ago
Hell to Monarchy Viva Republic and this David Bagrationi is really insufficient for Being called a monarch ... Go to Spain we have been living without Monarchy for 200 years and the times have changed and only a very few of Georgian population would back this long fogotten and old Idea...!!!!!!! "Prince David" had been having affaris and moreover he was ofcoaurse cheatin Anna Bagrationi with Shorena and he's even violent towards women cause he has bet Shoren for several times!!!
7Rezy7 1 year ago
LOL david XIIII ki ara ylea vigaca wadi isev espanetshi da andzrie ra
Exchange93 1 year ago
princi ki ara klea! big dick this bagrationi
paskunji 1 year ago
პრინცი დავით ბაგრატიონი არა ყლეეეეე.....
shamugiashvili 1 year ago
@shamugiashvili Sworedac room Princi Davit Bagrationia shtamomavali mefisa Abxazta da Qartvelta !!!
giomarshania 1 year ago
@giomarshania
raga dros egetebia zmao, 21 saukunea ukve...
prezidenti mirchevnia myavdes, vidre mefe, tanac egeti
shamugiashvili 1 year ago
@shamugiashvili prezidenti da monarqia ertmanetisgan zalian gansxvavebuli ramebia. Davit Bagrationis pirad cxovrebas nagdad ver gavarchev aq mara asea tu isea es Adamiani aris SAQARTVELOS kanonieri Monarqi shtamomavali udidesi qartveli mefebis im mefeebis romlebic wmindanebat sheracxa saqartvelos eklesiam. degs davit Bagrations mivayenebt sheurawyopas xval sheileba enaze uari vtqvat zeg davit agmashenebeli agar gvecodineba vin aris da esee....
giomarshania 1 year ago
@giomarshania memgoni ugva dagvianebulia nebismieri tipis monarqiaze saubari 21-e saukuneshi. "Kanonieroba" riti ganisazgvreba? Nebismier zivilizebul sazogadoebashi kanonierebas demokratiuli archvenbei gansazgvravs da ara dzalismieri metodebit mopovebuli skamis shamomavlobit gadazema.
kanudoss 1 year ago
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@giomarshania memgoni ukve dagvianebulia nebismieri tipis monarqiaze saubari 21-e saukuneshi. "Kanonieroba" riti ganisazgvreba? Nebismier zivilizebul sazogadoebashi kanonierebas demokratiuli archvenbei gansazgvravs da ara dzalismieri metodebit mopovebuli skamis shamomavlobit gadazema.
kanudoss 1 year ago
@shamugiashvili martalia. Imedia dro mova da nebismieri tituli gakreba. monraki, konstituziuri monarki, prinzi da ase shemdeg. Rodesaz veluri mongolebi gvitevdnen, ra tkma unda kargi iko ganatlebuli da dzlieri monarkis kola, magram 21-e saukunea da gaigvidzet... ris mepe ra mepe? visi mepe?
kanudoss 1 year ago
nugzar grand daughters are not bagrationi surname,they line finish.
MrZura7777 1 year ago
Are you completely mad?
A king who looks like Mr Bean and a wife - er, no comment.
Georgia is NOT Ruritania. sakartvelos gaumarjos but PLEASE get real
bobishrink 1 year ago
ან რას იგინებით ან რა ვაი ჩვენ პატრონს გაიძახით, ნორმალურად გადმოეცით თქვენი აზრი.
'ფურთხის ღირსი ხარ საქართველო'
გამგები გაიგებს...
MeIrakli 1 year ago
God Bless Monarchy !!!!!!
skiolander 2 years ago
an es ana ra sadedoflo qalia, tavi gauqreba!!!
ketusia25 2 years ago
ver moafamfala begashvilebis didmkerda asulma tqveni bagrationebi!raga dros monarqiaa, wyali sheudga mag ideas ra xania,....prezidenti ar gvyofnis,mefe gvchirdeba sruli bednierebistvis?! vai,chvens patrons...
ketusia25 2 years ago
God Bless Monarchy !!! God Bless Her Royal Highness Princess Anna !!!
skiolander 2 years ago
David Bagrationis dedaaaaaaac !!!
siriko eeeeeg
tuxtuxi1 2 years ago 2
vai tshvens patrons ubedurs.
ferishte2 2 years ago
David is NOT a King !!!!! He is CIA and KGB agent...
skiolander 2 years ago
ეს მეფე კი არა პედარასტია და ყლე მაგის დედას შევეცი, დავაჯვი მთელ მაგათ ძალით სამეფო ოჯახს
levitana87 2 years ago
The Belgium government spends for their King 5 Mln. in a year; Holland for their Queen spends 3 Mln. in a year; Spain spends for their King 1 Mln. in a year... Georgia spends for Misha 120-150 Mln. in a year !!! Does it makes sense ?????
skiolander 2 years ago 2
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diaxac kmayopilebi vart dgevandeli xelisuplebit, "mepeebs da dedoplebs " ki sjobian. Dzalit mepe da dzalit dedopali ar gamigia...... mase tu cava sakme, yvelas saidangac urevia mepeebis sisxli, mashin mec gamamepet da egaa . mec var ert-erti dinastiis shtamomavali.... ase rom xalxs kitxon, aravis schirdeba ak mepe
mtieliqalai 2 years ago
You got what you deserved.............!!! So you like your despotic government ? I`m really disappointed about you Georgians...
I don`t really much care, but it`s so sad to see how Georgia goes wrong way ...
skiolander 2 years ago
Ra mnishvneloba akvs vin romeli shtodadan , an ra gvarisaa? dgesdgeobit agar aris monarqia saqartveloshi da nuravin ibralebs sakartvelos dedoplobas an mepobas. sisulelea! tvitagiarebuli mepe ga gvaklia sruli bednierebisatvis
mtieliqalai 2 years ago
I`m not doubt about this false "king" of Georgia, but you Georgians do you really know what the hell you really want?! Are you setisfied with this despotic government ??? So, keep it... and you`ll never become civilized. GOD BLESS THE MONARCHY !!!
skiolander 2 years ago
All we want is INDEPENDENCE from Russia! GOD BLESS GEORGIA!!!!
ninuka 2 years ago
Yes, but are you really independent ? You Georgians should know what is right and what is wrong... what kind of governmental sistem is the most democratic... did you know that Monarchical government is more democratic than any other ???
skiolander 2 years ago
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Real independence doesnt exist, is united states independent? I dont think so. Why is monarchy most democratic, because spot #1 is already taken? to me the very concept of one last name is better than all others is plain demagogic. Royal families in every country got on top, by killing more than others . How they can prove, they are better than others, they arent smart than others despite studding with best teachers in best collages, show me the proof of blue blood.
ninuka 2 years ago
I feel the Bolshevik inspiration from your words, the way you think is the same with Bolsheviks... I`m talking about system and not about personalities. Please look around the world and you can notice which countries are wealthy and really democratic, please, just do it... and take my friendly advice - Don`t be envy !...
skiolander 2 years ago
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Envy of what ? Watching prince Charles and Camilla parker as my royals? Envy of paying taxis to support all that ,what is going on in Buckingham palace or any other royal palace? No, thank you, you can have them all. I d rather have my fake democratic parliament and watch people fight in there. and hare is advice for you : MOVE ON, its 21 century already.
P.S. Enjoying argument with you, please continue. sincerely, Nino.
ninuka 2 years ago
rao?! Mepe davit 13-eo?
vinc choxas chaicvams, tavi yvelas mepe hgonia!!!
ninuka 2 years ago
I agree with you, this false "king" is KGB agent, did you know that ? The rightful claimant to the Georgian throne is HRH Crown Prince Nugzar and after him his rightful heir Princess Anna. Thank you ninuka.
skiolander 2 years ago
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ninuka 2 years ago
LUARSABIS DA DAREJANIS QORCILI
ekaterine3333 2 years ago
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Am siujetshi zneli gasarkvevia romelia saqartvelos dedopali.Mxolod kaba tu migvanishnebs mis mdedrobit sqesze.Chatrda pompezuri qorcili,daixarja milioni lari.Da 7 tveshi daamtavres es maskaradi.Dzneli dasajerebelia rom es gaketda samshoblostvis da teritoriebis dasabruneblad.Realurad es iko 2 ambiciuri adamianis nabodvari da shedegic logikuria.Ver gainaciles gvirgvini.Kuchashi uamravi mshieri bavshvia da moxuci.Amis ponze gvanaxeben "Gurami da Nanulis "shous.SHAME ON YOU "anna"
ekaterine3333 2 years ago
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ekaterine3333 2 years ago
mainc wer wxwdebi, me rogorc cawikitxe ori bagrationi dakorcinda ertmanetse....es sheizleba? chems gwarshi ar sheizleba magalitad mogwaris moywana....da egeni xo mainc natesawebi arian sul ertmanetis.?
twischi 2 years ago
es coli win aris? gakceuli mepeebis da princebis ar mcams araperi...kartwelebo mepe agar gwyaws ukwe karga xania da zalit nu ezebt tkweni chirime ra...torem aferisti ywaryware tutaberi ar agwcdeba chweni bedi rom wici...
twischi 2 years ago
Just No comment..........
skiolander 2 years ago
Listen boy ! I`ve learned much about Georgian Dynasty of Bagrationi`s and it`s obvious that HRH Crown Prince Nugzar is the rightful heir to the Georgian Throne. Why ? Because He`s line descends from the last King of United Georgia - Giorgi VIII (1446-1466).
skiolander 2 years ago
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starkersboy 2 years ago
ana ra kargia da es davitia tu vigac ar momtsonss!:(
ise rato daengrat ese male ojaxii:(
MsNaniko 2 years ago
Imitom, rom shemogzavnili iyo eg arakaci saqartveloshi rata diskreditacia moexdina am ideis ! magram madloba ghmerts rom droze gamoashkarava tavi. Ekutvnodes mainc mephoba am arakacs. Muxranul shtos ar ekutvnis mephoba !!! is rac moxda legitimizmis darghvevaa !!! ANNA ki mamamisis mere Taxtis namdvili memkvidrea !!!
skiolander 2 years ago
Imito sheinarchunes didxans ojaxi!!
Sulelebi!
Modi da dasvi aseti mefe,,ert kvirashi coli moickina!!
MEFE ARA KIDE RA!! XALXS KITXON UNDAAT???AMATI SHENAXVAGA AKLIA ISEDAC GAUBEDUREBUL KVEKANAS!!!
ar gvindixart genacvale sxvagan itamashet mefeobana!!
Zaza55540 2 years ago
God Save the Queen!!!!! Absolutely correct my friend skiolander!!!!!
rockfucka 2 years ago 9
And God save his holiness Patriarch ilya II.
ChristainPatriot01 2 years ago 3
David Mukhraneli, in spite of the fact that he married Prince Nugzars daughter, Princess Anna, per grade he remains a representative of the offshoot of the princes of Mukhrani. This offshoot was formed in the XVth century. His immediate ancestors never reigned in Georgia and that is why by law it is incorrect to call David Mukhraneli HRH. He like his ancestors over the centuries had the title of Prince and served the king and was called princes of Mukhrani.
skiolander 2 years ago 3
But dynastically, the Mukhrani are the most senior branch of the Bagrationi dynasty who whose position was usurped by a junior branch centuries ago. By marrying Princess Anna the house that should have ruled has been united with the house that last ruled, and any child of theirs will be both Heir Male and Heir General of the Bagration Dynasty. There is absolutely no doubt; any male child of theirs is rightfully King of Georgia and has an infinitely stronger claim than anyone else.
starkersboy 2 years ago
You better read the books, ok ! you don`t know nothing about Dynastyc legitimasy, so, first of all please learn more. Mukhrani branch is offshoot line and that`s all !!!
skiolander 2 years ago
The descendants of Vakhtang V, the elder branch of the house of Mukhrani, retained the crown of Kartli until 1724, when the Ottoman invasion forced King Vakhtang VI of Kartli and his household into exile in Russia, without, however, renouncing their rights to the throne.
starkersboy 2 years ago
They formed two lines in exile, both accepted among the ranks of Russian princely nobility, knyaz. One of these, Princes Gruzinsky ("of Georgia"), descended from Vakhang Vs son Bakar and died out in 1892. The other, Princes Bagration, descending from Vakhang Vs nephew Alexander, and became extinct in 1919. The throne of Kartli eventually passed to their distant cousins from the Bagrationi dynasty of Kakheti.
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This new royal house defeated all subsequent attempts by the exiled Mukhranian pretenders to reclaim the crown and, by 1762, united both Kartli and Kakheti into a single monarchy.
starkersboy 2 years ago
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Constantines scions, the younger branch of the house of Mukhrani, chose to stay in Kartli rather than follow Vakhtang VI to Russia. They remained in possession of Mukhrani under the Kakhetian Bagrationi and continued to exercise within the united kingdom of Georgia the hereditary positions of Mayor of the Palace of Georgia and High Constable of Upper Kartli.
starkersboy 2 years ago
After Russias annexation of Georgia in 1801, Mukhrani ceased to exist as an autonomous princedom and its former rulers were confirmed as Russian princes in 1825 and 1850. This line became the genealogically senior representatives of the Bagrationi dynasty as the elder branch of the house of Mukhrani had gone extinct in its male line by 1919.
starkersboy 2 years ago
After the Bolshevik takeover of Georgia, the family relocated to Europe in 1930. In 1957, Prince Irakli Bagration of Mukhrani, having established himself in Spain, declared himself a head of the Royal House of Georgia, a title that has passed to his descendants and is currently held by his grandson, David who has returned to Georgia.
starkersboy 2 years ago
A rival claim, based on male primogeniture descent from the last kings of Georgia, comes from Prince Nugzar, head of the Bagration-Gruzinsky family, an offshoot of the Bagrationi of Kakheti. The marriage of Nugzar's daughter with David of Mukhrani unites these two branches, their son will be Heir General and Heir Male of both branches.
starkersboy 2 years ago
Prince Davits ancestors have not reigned since 1505. which makes his line a non-sovereign offshoot or ancillary line of noble princes rather than a royal line. In fact, when the Empire of Russia tragically abolished the throne in 1801, they exiled the royal family --- HRH Prince Nugzars ancestors. No one from the other lines (Mukhranski, -Davitishvili, -Babadishi) were exiled to Russia. This is because everyone knew that they were just high nobles and had no right to the throne.
skiolander 2 years ago
Yes... but Nugzar does not have any sons does he? Neither do the brothers of Nugzar.
And Georgia cannot have a Queen...so the only option is for one of his daughters to marry another Bagratid from a different branch of the family.
starkersboy 2 years ago
Who says that Georgia cannot have a Queen ? Bla bla bla... There is No Need anymore for such marriages, because we already have Royal Family ! Like In Sweden a more recent constitutional reform changed the rules for succession to equal primogeniture. This allowed for the crown to pass to the eldest child regardless of gender and thus installed Princess Victoria as heir apparent over her younger brother Prince Carl Philip.
skiolander 2 years ago
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RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
tavisuplebas dideba!!!!!!
nAvigAciA 2 years ago 8