The number of Vietnamese deaths //directly// attributable to American wickedness & insanity unleashed against their ancestral homeland, is 4-6 million.
The total number with chem./bio. warfare unleashed against them is unknowable as PRVN records were scant due to duress, and RSVN records were scant because the actual RSVN government was U.S. Embassy, who were TRYING to exterminate people and avoid blame.
I think of the 10 commandments this type of deception refers to holding false witness against thy neighbor. We have been taught by the churches the 10 commandments are a directives to the individual. I suspect they are really ment for the governments. Our government by murder and holding false witness is showing itself to be not of god but of the devil. We need to gain control of our government and keep it reflextive of gods will to be good and not evil. The laws of god apply to organizations.
On the night of 2 August 1964, USS Maddox was attacked, was hit by and returned fire on 3 North Vietnamese patrol boats. To say that the gulf of tonkin incident never happened is an outright lie.
Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers -- in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force.
"The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam...had taken place," writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were "part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964."
@StSimonMartyr "aggressive intelligence gathering maneuvers... how do you "aggressively " listen to radio signals? Were they playing their subwoofer too loud?
They were attacked in international waters and were just intercepting North Vietnamese radio traffic.
16,000 advisors aka CIA intelligence agents were Slithering all over Vietnam causing unreast, assassinating political leaders-Christians and Catholics, and working with the South to provoke an attack.
LBJ said months prior:
'What I want, is somebody that can lay up some plans to trap these guys, and whoop the Hell out of them, Kill some of them.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI its aparent that there was no attack on the american people, and the tapes prove that LBJ knew it. yet he still sent 58 thousand americans away to die for money. Sometimes to protect financial interests (or to satisfy greed) Blood needs to be spilled. You need to give the masses a reason to throw their lives away and support it.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI no money made in vietnam! HA! holy shit your a funny one. man i thought you were being serious, but your obviously being sarcastic. And the documents have proven that there was no attack on that day.
@bigcheesy95 There were bullet holes in Maddox, bullet fragments recovered. The Vietnamese lost 3 torpedo boats and had one damaged. They also lost 4 to 6 sailors. They complained about this to whomever would listen. There are photos of the attack and hundreds of witnesses. You bought the big lie.
USS Maddox was attacked, in international waters by the North Vietnamese and sticking your head up your ass doesn't change that.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Well here's video footage of macnamera (the secretary of defense) saying it never happened
watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k&feature=related
Here's the senior Radar/sonar man on the ship at the time of the attack saying there were no ships to fire at ( towards the end of the video)
watch?v=AXmxfCvO7lA&feature=related
And the Brown & root construction company ( who financially backed LBJ) got over $380 million ($2.2 billion in 2006 dollars) of american tax payer money from the government.
@bigcheesy95 First video says that you link to McNamara said that on August 2nd USS Maddox was attacked. So You confirm what I wrote. (You conspiracy idiots only see what you want to see)
The second video says that the USS Maddox was attacked on 2 August. USS Maddox was attacked on 2 August, both the links you listed confirm that. LOL.
What does Brown and Root have to do with Vietnam? Oh yeah, I don't care, you have already been proven wrong.
@Carpet07 - Because he's an evil son of a bitch red neck. All of those deaths for a war that shouldn't have even escalated. All for money, control and power.
What was our ship doing over there in the first place? I mean honestly... And it was declassified and revealed that the whole thing was fake.
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The number of Vietnamese deaths //directly// attributable to American wickedness & insanity unleashed against their ancestral homeland, is 4-6 million.
The total number with chem./bio. warfare unleashed against them is unknowable as PRVN records were scant due to duress, and RSVN records were scant because the actual RSVN government was U.S. Embassy, who were TRYING to exterminate people and avoid blame.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
I think of the 10 commandments this type of deception refers to holding false witness against thy neighbor. We have been taught by the churches the 10 commandments are a directives to the individual. I suspect they are really ment for the governments. Our government by murder and holding false witness is showing itself to be not of god but of the devil. We need to gain control of our government and keep it reflextive of gods will to be good and not evil. The laws of god apply to organizations.
fizzywool 1 year ago
@johnvena56 dude seriously yes i know that 50k men died but are you forgetting 1.5 million viatnamese died?
DarkDubz 1 year ago
On the night of 2 August 1964, USS Maddox was attacked, was hit by and returned fire on 3 North Vietnamese patrol boats. To say that the gulf of tonkin incident never happened is an outright lie.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 year ago
Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers -- in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force.
"The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam...had taken place," writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were "part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964."
StSimonMartyr 7 months ago
@StSimonMartyr "aggressive intelligence gathering maneuvers... how do you "aggressively " listen to radio signals? Were they playing their subwoofer too loud?
They were attacked in international waters and were just intercepting North Vietnamese radio traffic.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 7 months ago
16,000 advisors aka CIA intelligence agents were Slithering all over Vietnam causing unreast, assassinating political leaders-Christians and Catholics, and working with the South to provoke an attack.
LBJ said months prior:
'What I want, is somebody that can lay up some plans to trap these guys, and whoop the Hell out of them, Kill some of them.
Thats what I want to do.'
-LBJ
Go away, Lying Shillstein
StSimonMartyr 7 months ago
@StSimonMartyr So what crazy conspiracy website did you get that bullshit off of? Never mind, you don't know what you are talking about.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 7 months ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI its aparent that there was no attack on the american people, and the tapes prove that LBJ knew it. yet he still sent 58 thousand americans away to die for money. Sometimes to protect financial interests (or to satisfy greed) Blood needs to be spilled. You need to give the masses a reason to throw their lives away and support it.
bigcheesy95 2 months ago
@bigcheesy95 An attack on an American ship is an attack on the American people. There was no money to be made in Vietnam.
Bottom line: USS Maddox was attacked on 2 August and the people who say otherwise are liars.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 months ago 2
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI no money made in vietnam! HA! holy shit your a funny one. man i thought you were being serious, but your obviously being sarcastic. And the documents have proven that there was no attack on that day.
bigcheesy95 2 months ago
@bigcheesy95 There were bullet holes in Maddox, bullet fragments recovered. The Vietnamese lost 3 torpedo boats and had one damaged. They also lost 4 to 6 sailors. They complained about this to whomever would listen. There are photos of the attack and hundreds of witnesses. You bought the big lie.
USS Maddox was attacked, in international waters by the North Vietnamese and sticking your head up your ass doesn't change that.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 months ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Well here's video footage of macnamera (the secretary of defense) saying it never happened
watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k&feature=related
Here's the senior Radar/sonar man on the ship at the time of the attack saying there were no ships to fire at ( towards the end of the video)
watch?v=AXmxfCvO7lA&feature=related
And the Brown & root construction company ( who financially backed LBJ) got over $380 million ($2.2 billion in 2006 dollars) of american tax payer money from the government.
bigcheesy95 2 months ago
@bigcheesy95 First video says that you link to McNamara said that on August 2nd USS Maddox was attacked. So You confirm what I wrote. (You conspiracy idiots only see what you want to see)
The second video says that the USS Maddox was attacked on 2 August. USS Maddox was attacked on 2 August, both the links you listed confirm that. LOL.
What does Brown and Root have to do with Vietnam? Oh yeah, I don't care, you have already been proven wrong.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 months ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI
...and yet Jesse Ventura will tell you it was a lie...and 58,000 Americans died for it along with over a million innocent vietnamese.
CRschralper 4 months ago
the last 10 seconds we could have done without.
AustralianPyro 1 year ago
killuminati
turtleowens09 1 year ago
How could he lie to the american people like that
Carpet07 1 year ago
@Carpet07 - Because he's an evil son of a bitch red neck. All of those deaths for a war that shouldn't have even escalated. All for money, control and power.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
We have a history of bringing "Freedom" and "Peace" by bombing and killing.
coronet67 1 year ago 6
@coronet67 Peace was brought to Vietnam after your defeat lol.
Teranex 1 year ago
@coronet67 And a long future as well, it appears.
HeavyMechanics 1 year ago
a war for standard oil,veitnam vet pt
patous2 1 year ago
did you do that pyramid design at the end?
150133 2 years ago
lol i dont believe golf of tonkin cause every PT commander knows they have no change of winning against a destroyer !!
and WTH US ship do in the fucking vietnam ?
but not a south vietnam territories but that accident is on north ?! (just look at the 0:48 )
Axelgunner2 2 years ago
theres taped conversations where they are discussing that shit!
fdarguellesjr 2 years ago
god dammit, I like your videos
BUT TURN THE FUCKING GUNSHOTS AT THE END DOWN!!!!
they are WAY louder than the movies.
to those of us with 12" subwoofers, it shakes the house!
ATOMsMasHER22 2 years ago 5
ya i agree with you LOL
babylonsfalling 2 years ago
@ATOMsMasHER22 I agree , dam too loud
judge6754 1 year ago
0 views after I loaded this from 3 different computers. NICE tracking job YouTube
gutsrace 2 years ago 10