What I love is the way they stand up to the eu,& tell them to piss off,I know that in usa,we would be a bunch of pussies,(except Ron Paul),+ that Nigel guy is an Awsome speaker,love his ball breaking comments to EU
Can someone please explain to me why people didn't learn from their mistakes in 1929? Is it just the fault of greedy bankers or is that assumption unjustified? And even if Oborne is right in what he says, he's still a prick, albeit one who is right in what he says.
You might feel strongly about something in a debate, but there's no need to be rude about it. Constantly calling others names and deriding them just puts you in a bad light, and will probably cause audience's sympathy to switch to your opponents.
well done mr Peter Oborne! It is about time that more people put these EU politicians in their place and tell them how incompetent, antidemocratic and rediculous they sound when they try to fool us by saying "the euro is great and is not to blame for this mess." The euro itself is an illegal construct which was brought into being without the consent of we the people. The quicker it dies the better!!
The government in Brussels is run on fantasy; filled with people who treat Europe as a giant chessboard on which to play their game as world controllers; insulated in their toy town of Brussels and encountering no-one but fellow Party members.
Such absurdity deserves no respect whatsoever, and by being so discourteous, Oborne is doing his part to pierce the deluded bubble.
We shouldn't sit round pretending they are sensible, rational people. They're not.
And a love how he starts on the journalist too, tossing him a copy of his book insouciantly. Oborne rules; most journalists are pusilanimous lickspittles who toady up to the establishment (just watch the BBC for evidence of this). Oborne calls a cnut a cnut.
Oborne's great. Even though he's on the right he goes after the crooks and charlatans of all political persuasions and he certainly loathes Blair. Why should anyone have respect for this kind of generic Brussells bureaucrat when its his kind who have been getting fat off the land at the common man's expense? Politeness is for yesterday when politicians commanded some respect; now we know they're (mostly) all a bunch of mountebanks and criminals.
The Euro would have been a great idea if they'd stuck by the original rules set out and if the stronger members of the EU had all joined. And would the Euro really have been that bad for the UK? It's not ruined Germany, and the Euro project would have probably worked out much better with the UK joining which was initially intended.
@jamma246 The Euro would have been terrible for the UK for the simple fact we would now be entirely powerless to prevent taxpayers being shafted to pay for these losers in Greece, Ireland, Portugal etc etc
@tincoffin : disagreeing is one thing. Being rude and offensive is another. Oborne has is place in a primary school playground, not on national television. That's my view.
@papillon0970 But as he says they were rude and offensive about people who questioned the wisdom of joining the Eurozone. They were called rednecks ,little englanders etc
You call him rude and offensive but he is very angry and with reason
Greece's GDP represents 2.5% of the European economy, which is about the same ratio as the Midlands. Do you honestly think that Greece can be blamed for the entirety of the global financial crisis?
Oborne is an obnoxious shit. The Eurocrat may well have been full of rubbish, but it's still rude and offensive to dismiss him as The Idiot From Brussells.
I can't take the man seriously after his massive miscalculation of praising Thatcher in Liverpool!
I could watch this over and over again, it is fantastic. The more contempt EU shysters are treated with the better, I cannot wait for this fraudelent ,piss poor operation known as the euro to fail and the whole european integration rubbish to vanish forever
Peter Oborne you legend, im 19yrs old and always watch newsnight and you hit the nail bang on the head, these people need to be told when there wrong!
Oborne is right and time is proving him moreso. Unfortunately, he is an ass about it. That doesn't change the facts. It only impacts our view of him. Nations should never share their sovereignty! It is a mistake. Working together requires daily effort that cannot be delegated to those outside your country.
@christhemountain That is another topic, one which I don't have as much history under my belt to comment on. The EU was a voluntary association that became involuntary. Anyone that enters into such deserves what they get. The politically correct mantra is to eschew national sovereignty and embrace globalism - which only leads one to bigger dictators. All politics is local and should remain so - even on global issues.
But you said "a nation should never share their sovereignty". Scotland and N Ireland and Wales have all done that. Not voluntarily either. Surely they should get out the UK rather than live in this forced joining of nations?
For two posh public schoolboys, Oborne and Paxman have no class. They both dealt with the EC spokesman very rudely. It is possible to disagree with someone without resorting to crass insults.
@ray3mondo Oborne shows his total lack of manners here. Whenever someone resorts to insult, they immediately lose respect. It matters not whether he is right or not, there is no excuse for boorishness.
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The máxime corruption,paradise fiscal,Bahamas Bermudas Gibraltar under control UK and USA, modern pirates of the mundial economy, england pirates corrupters.
I'm in favour of the UK joining the EURO, for sure the UK joining the EURO is a really unpopular opinion now in the UK however if Britain pays off its current debts, the EU members using the Euro shows less flaffing around (it would if the UK joined) and the EU economy starts to grow healthly again, then the UK joining would mean the EURO would be the world's strongest currency and the start of the leader of the 21st century economically and politically like the U.S.A in the 20th century. IMO!
@jamchip03 I hope you never get in a position of power,plenty of "if's" in your statement, you are just another foolish eurodreamer with no idea of the real world.
@jamchip03 America became a world leader because of a very big war in the middle part of that century which until that time, was lead by Britain. The eu area is in terminal decline, and I do n ot want Britain to be part of that decline. We don't have to be.
I believe in the EU and the Euro. I do think sometimes the EU are it's own worst enemy when e.g. Greece failed to report its real debts sooner because countries were left to their own devices despite knowing some levels of corruption and very low taxes for the richest, or when ministers spent time talking about silly EU health and safety rules instead of the economy. If there were more centralisation in the EU, I reckon this could help. I just hope the EU doesn't give up and break up.
By the way, you claim that EU politicians are corrupted, well I think we can't fully trust in any politician no matter side or color. Eu politicians are as corrupted as the British, Irish, French, Spanish and everyone else. It's not simply blue side is good, red side bad guys, the whole system doesn't work including what's going one in England.
@Aptitude You can deny it 10,000 more times but it won't mean you are right. If French and Irish didn't want the Euro they wouldn't have joined it. Of course there is always people who may not agree with the Euro but the immense majority is with the Euro and that won't change no matter how many times the British media tried to say the opposite. And no I haven't been brainwashed it's simply I can only see advantages in the long term with having the Euro as European currency.
@jtmedina75 ; If you are statistically correct in your assumption, why were the people who live in the EURO lands never given the basic democratic right to vote on whether or not they wished to join the single currency?
Interestingly enough the only two lands which treated their electorate democratically in giving them a vote on joining the EURO, rejected it out of hand!
@s13hgp If people really didn't want the Euro there would already be riots on the streets of every European country to leave the Euro. That's not happening.
Democracy is just an illusion, we vote for a party that takes control of our lives and our economies, but either you are from the UK, Spanish or any country on Earth we don't have control of what's at the top of the pyramid. We only have the chance to vote for a political party every 4 years and that's it.
@jtmedina75 ; Well in every land where the Euro project has failed, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland and Italy there has been civil unrest! The imposition of the Euro without a referendum will I believe be its death nail. I have many friends from countries using the Euro, none where in favour of its introduction and most believe it is a failed and flawed currency.
@s13hgp Civil unres because of the Euro????? When, where??? Here in Spain we had protest because the high unemployment rate and it had nothing to do with the Euro but with our weak economy based on construction (40% of our GDP).
Greeks have a huge debt not because of the Euro but because they have a poor economy too.
USA,UK, GERMANY, ITALY all of these countries are in debt not because of the Euro but overspending, Bank selling debt, contraction of the economy and housing market bubble.
@jtmedina75 ; You cannot devalue your currency! Therefore you are stuck in an economic time warp because of the Euro's basic deficiencies as a currency. The concept of being in the Euro was good governance of public finances which was ignored by the national governments and the EU. If you had your own currency it could be devalued to suit the economic situation in Spain, as it is you stuck with the more successful northern lands controlling your situation. My condolences.
@jtmedina75 ; The British are showing themselves who they really are? What sort of illiterate comment is that?
The concept of full political and fiscal involvement in the EU has never been put to the populous here, we value our freedom and democracy. As for who we really are , take a trip to the WW 1/2 graves in Northern France then dare to insult my people! Frankly you disgust me!
@s13hgp What happened during WWI I-II it has nothing to do with what's going on these days, your country has found a great opportunity to harm and divide us and British media is doing it every single day. Just listen BBC to believe it.
You call me illiterate? I'd bet you most of us are better educated than the average British, in my country University is a universal right which means EVERY ONE can have access to it not the ones who are wealthy or had the chance to pay 50,000 for a degree.
@jtmedina75 ; I have a Masters of Science degree! As for harm and divide us! Who pray tell are us ? As I wrote before, your comments are uneducated, ill researched and frankly childish. However as you and your countrymen are so intelligent you will not need Northern European money to sort out your mess? Fat chance.
@s13hgp " I have a Masters of Science degree! As for harm and divide us! Who pray tell are us ? As I wrote before, your comments are uneducated, ill researched and frankly childish. However as you and your countrymen are so intelligent you will not need Northern European money to sort out your mess? Fat chance."
Crazy, bizarre guy you are. You are not they only one with a Degree idiot! Get you, your pound and your hypocrite smooth rude culture to hell. I am done with you.
@s13hgp "The concept of full political and fiscal involvement in the EU has never been put to the populous here, we value our freedom and democracy. As for who we really are , take a trip to the WW 1/2 graves in Northern France then dare to insult my people! Frankly you disgust me!"
No sir you disgust me! selfish people praying for a whole currency to fail and spreading false rumors about the Euro, that's what's disgusting. You only want to hear one side, your side.
@Aptitude It is part of Europe, which is the point I'm trying to make. Don't worry I'm anti-EU, I'm just telling these morons (whom must have failed Geography) that the UK is part of the european continent.
Oborne doesn't back any of his comments and is just using vile language to that poor spokesman. He's the idiot for behaving childishly on live television.
@Phunker1 Vile language? You need to get a grip on reality. This 'poor' spokesman is helping to destroy entire nations of millions baecause he is not prepared to admit that him and his ilk are, and have allways been wrong. This is vile; You are a complete and utter cunt, that sucks rotting corpse penis. Stop being so fucking sensitive.
Right .. Captain Freedom Fighter UK ..what a ridiculous name.. point well made, you're just as vile as that tosser Oborne . You really believe what he sais? The Euro is destroying nations? Bollocks! Some countries just spent too much money and too much of that was borrowed. Now they are having problems to pay it back and it's as simple as that. Still, I don't expect you to understand basic accounting. Come on, Go and watch some telly..
@Phunker1 'what a ridiculous name' and Phunker1 is clearly the moniker of an intellectual. Why is Greece unable to rectify the situation it is in now? Because the ECB and IMF are dictating what the Greeks can or can't do with their own country, now that is vile. Forcing economically diverse nations together in monetary union is ridiculous, as are you. The actions of the EU fanatics are destroying nations and usurping national sovereignty.
@FreedomFighterUK No one is dictating anything. If Greece wants a currency backed by strong nations, they have to obey some rules. If they don't want that, they can get out. Trouble is, that the drachma won't be worth a lot and they will have to pay a lot more for their debt than they are paying now. If they on the other hand fail to pay it back, no one is gonna give Greece any credit. It's a vicious circle, caused by reckless spending and not by any "euro fanatics" as you call them.
@Phunker1 1)- 'the drachma won't be worth a lot and they will have to pay a lot more for their debt than they are paying now. If they on the other hand fail to pay it back, no one is gonna give Greece any credit. It's a vicious circle' Yes, it's a viscious circle that needs to be broken, and it certainly won't be whilst Greece are EU members beholden to the ECB & IMF. The Greeks need to default, reinstate the Drachma and suffer for a few years. The country would benefit after a few years....
@FreedomFighterUK 2)- ....hardship. I never said that the Greek crisis was due to the actions of financial institutions or euro-fanatics, it was down to irresponsible spending & borrowing. But the solution offered up by the Euro-fanatics is destroying Greece. Their failure to acknowledge the fundamental faults of the EU federalist model are the root cause of Europes failure to 'bounce back'. We essentially have politicians in control of economics, which is pathetic and dangerous.
@Phunker1 The 'global recession' was caused (in a majority of European nations) by financial institutions. Ever heard of derivatives, toxic assets and junk bonds? I don't expect you to understand basic economics you reactionary twit. Go and watch some TV Phunker. I do not believe I am a freedom fighter, I pressume you believe you are a phunker? What does that mean? p.s. my moniker is FreedomFighterUK not Captain Freedom Fighter, I think you may need some glasses as well as a hearing-aid.
@Phunker1 Read both of my comments. I'm leaving this third message to tell you that there is two comments because you are visually impaired and will have difficulty in realising this.
Alemania perdió la 2 guerra mundial, y en 50 años a aprendido a ser mas humildes y solidarios con el resto de Europa, sin embargo los vencedores Inglaterra USA, Rusia ,aprendieron a ser mas prepotentes y la falta de humildad y solidaridad brillan por su ausencia.
The true Europe is Germany ,France, Spain, Finland,Greece,Portugal,holland... This countrys running to the future creation of great european nation, Others countrys parasites,only wanted economics aventadge, BERLÍN IS THE CAPITAL OF EUROPE.
What Osborne said is true, it's also OFFENSIVE to hear and suffer the decisions that those people in Bruxells make... They KILLED agriculture in Greece, the KILLED fishing industry in Portugal, they WASTED billions in uncontroled subsidies, and THAT IS THE REASON why Euro Countries are falling down!
Clean Bruxells from mercenaries like D.B. and sent there the best minds... not the worse.
@231de300 What are you on about!!! Explain why Denmark, Norway, Sweden are not on the brink of bancupcy!? Hmm....maybe because they are not in the Euro. Explain why Switzerland is not going bankrupt or Poland!???
the filthy rich thinks of amassing enormous fortunes, the poor men works hard to put some food on the table,millions of people are at the verge, if not starving waiting for a single man to fix the economy,it takes at least six of the most brilliant men and a brainstorm to come up with positive results,elect twenty of the most brilliant men in the U S TO SOLVE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS,MAKE IT LESS COMPLICATED FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, NO MORE EXPENSIVE ELECTIONS,AMERICA NEEDS A CHANGE,
@Aptitude The UK is the only country really opposing to the Euro and the Europeans. The only beneficiary from the fall of the euro it would be the UK, every one else would be in serious trouble is the euro falls.
The Euro and the EU is the best that it could happen to us all, not only we have a common currency but we can trade freely using it.
British will never join the Euro ever, it's just too much for them because they lack the commitment we all had when left our currencies behind.
@Aptitude Agreed we they should have joined in the EU with better economy but the way out to this problem is not killing the Euro and that's what they are saying. We can't just go back to our former currencies like nothing happens.
But it's true and I can see it in my own country Spain. Here politicians are doing nothing to create jobs or improve the health of our economy and my guess is that the Greeks aren't doing any either.
its about time there was some accountability."idiot" is a too nicer word to use for such person thats been paid to do the dirty talk for the evil communist puppets.
@iddo555 "Germany has a bigger debt to GDP that the UK does, are you saying they are broke?"
No, I am saying British media is misleading people about the Euro when they also have problems with their debt. It's not just a problem with European debt, it's about the whole system. USA 14 trillion, UK 1 trillion, Germany 1.5 Trillion. The problem is we are all in trouble but British media keeps teasing saying it's the Euro and people take the bait.
If European countries were closer together everything would be better, but countries like the UK does not imply a more united Europe, do not want the euro do not want rates to banks, tax havens remain protectorates ... UK only wants Europe's economic advantage as they have always echo in history. Europe needs you.
If 'gratutitously offensive' remarks send an idiot running for his mummys skirts then let that be a lesson as to how incompetent the European Union architects really are. Call a spade a spade, I say!
Wake up Europeans British are trying to divide us and they are doing it. The problem is not the Euro, it's those irresponsible countries that are doing nothing to fix their economies but asking for more and more money.
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction 40% of our GDP.
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction (40% of our GDP).
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction (40% of our GDP).
I agree it is great, Mr Oborne is rambling around in the studio like a drunk hooligan. First he showing his absolute lack of any manners and then he is proving Godwins law. If EU skeptics are impressed by that I have to agree with that "idiot in Brussels", it speaks for itself.
GREECE IS BANKRUPT, it is being bailed out because when it actually goes under the money it owes stops flowing to its(creditors/predators) and then they have to find hundreds of billions to fill the gap mainly because of the fractional reserve mechanism. DEBT is being taken out in the name of the people and given mainly to banks. WHEN THEY ARE BANKRUPT our appointed politicians bail the out, sometime soon many countries will officially declare bancruptcy. what then...
im so happy i live in norway. we dont have to deal with a corrupt EU and a fraudulent euro. lol i feel victorious! we dont follow dictates from brussels and we dont need to bail out any country :) it is better to engage in bilateral relations because every country is different.
Switzerland and Norway just proved there is more life outside the EU and euro :D
im from germany and i want to abolish the eu and euro too. it is not working anymore! merkel and her foolish dogs want us to pay for greece for what? to continue the greeks' lavish lifestyle? they want us to bail out a country that cannot manage its own money??? eu and euro dysfunctional!
This Peter Oborne, besides being the IDIOT inte the studio, is extremely arrogant and ignorant. If he knew what greeks have done before and after they join the EURO, he would understand that this is not a EURO problem, but simply a GREEK problem. A mentality problem: payng debt with MORE debt. And it would be there FOREVER if they have never joined the EURO...
@LexVanthor then why is there a bail out in the first place? lol if it is a greek problem, why force other people in other countries suffer by sacrificing their tax money to save a fiscally irresponsible country? lol silly eurofags. they create more debt to save one country's debt. i dont know how they are going to force italians and spaniards and irish to pay more to your rescue fund to bail out greece when they cannot even fund their own countries. so much stupidity at work in the big EU lie.
Time to get out of this eu technocratic dictatorship by self-acclaimed communist Barroso and his corrupt sheep in brussels. they are just creating debt to save a country's debt. Ireland Greece Spain Italy France are better off without the euro and eu. They can manage their own problems without dictates from brussels. no wonder why eu parties are almost all socialists and communists. the funding for countries are favoring those of poorer countries when the ones paying are the rich ones. UNFAIR!
@flowerpuff2001 The EU MP Commisioner also said the Euro was Political not Econonical and the Euro is a shield and that is a factor that has protected a number of Europe economies, bringing stability and prosperity!" - I mean how ignorant can he get!?? How come Denmark, Norway, Sweden [Kroner] or Poland, [Zloty) even Switzerland are not on the brink of bankrupcy!? - Why? hmm...maybe because they're not in the Euro currency. So for him to say it's creating stability and prosperity is beyond me!
Hmm, i agree. I think that Euro plays a big role in the shut the fuck up community. NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK, WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE IT WAS IN TREND
@ninelivecat and 3 trillion GDP. so the GDP offsets the debts. Since countries joined the euro, they got more debt! ireland, greece, italy, spain! now france! and germany now has no growth! pathetic european union... more like european DEBT union.
@flowerpuff2001 It's wrong to compare Ireland and Greece against the UK They are only small economies as for Germany she is overall in better shape than the UK Maybe you should get out of the European Union altogether and join up with the USA
@ninelivecat well, i thought everyone's equal in the european union? what is this smaller larger disparity? lol does that mean just because germany is big it has a bigger say in this fraudulent union? is that why there has always been a trade imbalance in europe? yep, i cant wait for the UK to get out of the EU. We dont need the EU and your filthy regulations. We've been better off outside the EU and your warlords. Good luck with your germanized europe, i bet hitler is partying in hell right now
@ninelivecat and if i may say, you're a liar. your profile says your from the uk but you call the uk as a third person point of view. lol what a loser you are, bullock. get lost and get a life. a life in your soviet rathole in brussels.
Strange to see an English speaking like this, in open speech.
Finally he is right! There are a group in the background who will richest and richest with bankrupt and collapse economics... the Pharisees.
Tetsuoha 1 month ago
brilliant.
Garciamrcool 1 month ago
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He should of said YES. YES THEY ARE
TelfLad 1 month ago
What I love is the way they stand up to the eu,& tell them to piss off,I know that in usa,we would be a bunch of pussies,(except Ron Paul),+ that Nigel guy is an Awsome speaker,love his ball breaking comments to EU
remraf44 2 months ago
78 eurofags dislike this
NlKNAK72 2 months ago
we need a witch-hunt for the people who favoured the euro.
optionsupdate 3 months ago
This guy stinks of Daily Mail. Rude and misguided.
greatislandprod 3 months ago
@greatislandprod Piss off you europhile prick.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
Peter Oborne is ignoring some facts and promoting others. He is a liar
poetryiscool 3 months ago
Well done to Peter Oborne.
mikesheen741 3 months ago 4
He is absolutely right but I think he has made himself look like an idiot. You shouldn't offend people no matter how much you disagree.
Sheila1932 4 months ago
Can someone please explain to me why people didn't learn from their mistakes in 1929? Is it just the fault of greedy bankers or is that assumption unjustified? And even if Oborne is right in what he says, he's still a prick, albeit one who is right in what he says.
LuckyWanderer 4 months ago
Not a big fan of EU policy, but that was kinda rude!
dmagwaza 4 months ago
You might feel strongly about something in a debate, but there's no need to be rude about it. Constantly calling others names and deriding them just puts you in a bad light, and will probably cause audience's sympathy to switch to your opponents.
anxresi 4 months ago
well done mr Peter Oborne! It is about time that more people put these EU politicians in their place and tell them how incompetent, antidemocratic and rediculous they sound when they try to fool us by saying "the euro is great and is not to blame for this mess." The euro itself is an illegal construct which was brought into being without the consent of we the people. The quicker it dies the better!!
EUrealitycheck1 4 months ago 2
This is hilarious!
Chapelkid00 4 months ago
haha fuck the EU MAN
uatch 4 months ago
Well said Oborne! It's refreshing to see an honest man on television
sleepeaze 4 months ago 2
The EU is pure evil.
Michelangelo123123 4 months ago
Oborne's language was entirely justified.
The government in Brussels is run on fantasy; filled with people who treat Europe as a giant chessboard on which to play their game as world controllers; insulated in their toy town of Brussels and encountering no-one but fellow Party members.
Such absurdity deserves no respect whatsoever, and by being so discourteous, Oborne is doing his part to pierce the deluded bubble.
We shouldn't sit round pretending they are sensible, rational people. They're not.
kzearo 4 months ago 17
And a love how he starts on the journalist too, tossing him a copy of his book insouciantly. Oborne rules; most journalists are pusilanimous lickspittles who toady up to the establishment (just watch the BBC for evidence of this). Oborne calls a cnut a cnut.
DaveUndertaker 4 months ago
Oborne's great. Even though he's on the right he goes after the crooks and charlatans of all political persuasions and he certainly loathes Blair. Why should anyone have respect for this kind of generic Brussells bureaucrat when its his kind who have been getting fat off the land at the common man's expense? Politeness is for yesterday when politicians commanded some respect; now we know they're (mostly) all a bunch of mountebanks and criminals.
DaveUndertaker 4 months ago
Listening to Peter Oborne is fucking offensive, I mean what a fucking clown.
If he really thinks that Greece would be better off outside the Eurozone, he has absolutely no clue.
EyeHeartElliottSmith 4 months ago 3
The Euro would have been a great idea if they'd stuck by the original rules set out and if the stronger members of the EU had all joined. And would the Euro really have been that bad for the UK? It's not ruined Germany, and the Euro project would have probably worked out much better with the UK joining which was initially intended.
jamma246 4 months ago
@jamma246 The Euro would have been terrible for the UK for the simple fact we would now be entirely powerless to prevent taxpayers being shafted to pay for these losers in Greece, Ireland, Portugal etc etc
StamfordMax 4 months ago
Oborne exemplifies british arrogance.
papillon0970 4 months ago
@papillon0970 Odd you say that . In Britain it is quite ok to be quite rude to politicians . They are generally regarded as hypocrites.
tincoffin 4 months ago
@tincoffin : disagreeing is one thing. Being rude and offensive is another. Oborne has is place in a primary school playground, not on national television. That's my view.
papillon0970 4 months ago
@papillon0970 But as he says they were rude and offensive about people who questioned the wisdom of joining the Eurozone. They were called rednecks ,little englanders etc
You call him rude and offensive but he is very angry and with reason
tincoffin 4 months ago
@tincoffin : I simply think Oborne should have set a better example by raising the standard... I guess we will agree to disagree!
papillon0970 4 months ago
Lol what a dumb thing to do
qet5ess 4 months ago
Didn't really 'storm' off.
mrt2931 4 months ago
@weejockpoopongmcplop nope
rottweileruk1 4 months ago
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Greece's GDP represents 2.5% of the European economy, which is about the same ratio as the Midlands. Do you honestly think that Greece can be blamed for the entirety of the global financial crisis?
Jamesbharris2 4 months ago 4
Lol.
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Oborne is an obnoxious shit. The Eurocrat may well have been full of rubbish, but it's still rude and offensive to dismiss him as The Idiot From Brussells.
I can't take the man seriously after his massive miscalculation of praising Thatcher in Liverpool!
otleybey 4 months ago 47
@otleybey "Obnoxious shit" was exactly the phrase that came to mind when I saw him on Question Time!
ThereWasOnlyOneCatch 4 months ago
@otleybey As Oborne says in spite of being told repeatedly what was wrong they ploughed ahead with their reckless political gamble.
We are all going to suffer for their stupidity so who is obnoxious?
tincoffin 4 months ago
@tincoffin Like I said, I don't agree with the EU guy. But that doesn't excuse Oborne's hideous personality.
otleybey 4 months ago
I could watch this over and over again, it is fantastic. The more contempt EU shysters are treated with the better, I cannot wait for this fraudelent ,piss poor operation known as the euro to fail and the whole european integration rubbish to vanish forever
StamfordMax 4 months ago
Isn't the Daily Telegraph is a tabloid? One of thoses newscorp trash magazines?
Aroddo 4 months ago
EU fool - "Euro is a shield protecting many economies!!!!" - like the Greek one eh?
The EU chap is a complete denial. Oborne was spot on although pretty rude.
dariuspitney1 4 months ago
Peter Oborne you legend, im 19yrs old and always watch newsnight and you hit the nail bang on the head, these people need to be told when there wrong!
rottweileruk1 4 months ago
@rottweileruk1 You won't mind me pointing out that you should have typed "they're wrong" then.
weejockpoopongmcplop 4 months ago
White socks??? British... tacky!!
jegarma 4 months ago
What an awesome interview. Well done BBC for putting people with such contrarian views in the same room.
Calling the EU guy an idiot 4 times was just once too much, the more he speaks, the more he and the EU lean towards falling on their swords.
Siegetower 4 months ago
Oborne is right and time is proving him moreso. Unfortunately, he is an ass about it. That doesn't change the facts. It only impacts our view of him. Nations should never share their sovereignty! It is a mistake. Working together requires daily effort that cannot be delegated to those outside your country.
averyblessedguy 4 months ago 10
@averyblessedguy So you advocate Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales to leave the UK then, I presume.
christhemountain 2 months ago
@christhemountain That is another topic, one which I don't have as much history under my belt to comment on. The EU was a voluntary association that became involuntary. Anyone that enters into such deserves what they get. The politically correct mantra is to eschew national sovereignty and embrace globalism - which only leads one to bigger dictators. All politics is local and should remain so - even on global issues.
averyblessedguy 2 months ago
@averyblessedguy
But you said "a nation should never share their sovereignty". Scotland and N Ireland and Wales have all done that. Not voluntarily either. Surely they should get out the UK rather than live in this forced joining of nations?
christhemountain 2 months ago
LOL! the Arab is lying. Watch him lick his lips at 0:42. It's a sign of deception.
Zalahblue 4 months ago
For two posh public schoolboys, Oborne and Paxman have no class. They both dealt with the EC spokesman very rudely. It is possible to disagree with someone without resorting to crass insults.
ray3mondo 4 months ago
@ray3mondo Oborne shows his total lack of manners here. Whenever someone resorts to insult, they immediately lose respect. It matters not whether he is right or not, there is no excuse for boorishness.
1408alan 4 months ago 2
Paradise fiscal = cavern of pirates under protection UK and USA. Cayman island,Bermudas, Bahamas,virgen islands, gibraltar....... No more english corruption, STOP fiscal paradise.
231de300 4 months ago
The máxime corruption,paradise fiscal,Bahamas Bermudas Gibraltar under control UK and USA, modern pirates of the mundial economy, england pirates corrupters.
231de300 4 months ago
I'm in favour of the UK joining the EURO, for sure the UK joining the EURO is a really unpopular opinion now in the UK however if Britain pays off its current debts, the EU members using the Euro shows less flaffing around (it would if the UK joined) and the EU economy starts to grow healthly again, then the UK joining would mean the EURO would be the world's strongest currency and the start of the leader of the 21st century economically and politically like the U.S.A in the 20th century. IMO!
jamchip03 4 months ago
@jamchip03 Economics isn't your thing is it?
MrGilles1990 4 months ago
@jamchip03 I hope you never get in a position of power,plenty of "if's" in your statement, you are just another foolish eurodreamer with no idea of the real world.
spunkbobfartpants 4 months ago
@jamchip03 America became a world leader because of a very big war in the middle part of that century which until that time, was lead by Britain. The eu area is in terminal decline, and I do n ot want Britain to be part of that decline. We don't have to be.
CLVASHJBHWFS 4 months ago
I believe in the EU and the Euro. I do think sometimes the EU are it's own worst enemy when e.g. Greece failed to report its real debts sooner because countries were left to their own devices despite knowing some levels of corruption and very low taxes for the richest, or when ministers spent time talking about silly EU health and safety rules instead of the economy. If there were more centralisation in the EU, I reckon this could help. I just hope the EU doesn't give up and break up.
jamchip03 4 months ago
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jamchip03 4 months ago
By the way, you claim that EU politicians are corrupted, well I think we can't fully trust in any politician no matter side or color. Eu politicians are as corrupted as the British, Irish, French, Spanish and everyone else. It's not simply blue side is good, red side bad guys, the whole system doesn't work including what's going one in England.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@Aptitude You can deny it 10,000 more times but it won't mean you are right. If French and Irish didn't want the Euro they wouldn't have joined it. Of course there is always people who may not agree with the Euro but the immense majority is with the Euro and that won't change no matter how many times the British media tried to say the opposite. And no I haven't been brainwashed it's simply I can only see advantages in the long term with having the Euro as European currency.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; If you are statistically correct in your assumption, why were the people who live in the EURO lands never given the basic democratic right to vote on whether or not they wished to join the single currency?
Interestingly enough the only two lands which treated their electorate democratically in giving them a vote on joining the EURO, rejected it out of hand!
s13hgp 4 months ago
@s13hgp If people really didn't want the Euro there would already be riots on the streets of every European country to leave the Euro. That's not happening.
Democracy is just an illusion, we vote for a party that takes control of our lives and our economies, but either you are from the UK, Spanish or any country on Earth we don't have control of what's at the top of the pyramid. We only have the chance to vote for a political party every 4 years and that's it.
Time will tell...
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; Well in every land where the Euro project has failed, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland and Italy there has been civil unrest! The imposition of the Euro without a referendum will I believe be its death nail. I have many friends from countries using the Euro, none where in favour of its introduction and most believe it is a failed and flawed currency.
s13hgp 4 months ago
@s13hgp Civil unres because of the Euro????? When, where??? Here in Spain we had protest because the high unemployment rate and it had nothing to do with the Euro but with our weak economy based on construction (40% of our GDP).
Greeks have a huge debt not because of the Euro but because they have a poor economy too.
USA,UK, GERMANY, ITALY all of these countries are in debt not because of the Euro but overspending, Bank selling debt, contraction of the economy and housing market bubble.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; You cannot devalue your currency! Therefore you are stuck in an economic time warp because of the Euro's basic deficiencies as a currency. The concept of being in the Euro was good governance of public finances which was ignored by the national governments and the EU. If you had your own currency it could be devalued to suit the economic situation in Spain, as it is you stuck with the more successful northern lands controlling your situation. My condolences.
s13hgp 4 months ago
@s13hgp "My condolences". Time will tell,
Besides British are showing themselves who they really are. Thank you for making it clearer.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; The British are showing themselves who they really are? What sort of illiterate comment is that?
The concept of full political and fiscal involvement in the EU has never been put to the populous here, we value our freedom and democracy. As for who we really are , take a trip to the WW 1/2 graves in Northern France then dare to insult my people! Frankly you disgust me!
s13hgp 4 months ago 2
@s13hgp What happened during WWI I-II it has nothing to do with what's going on these days, your country has found a great opportunity to harm and divide us and British media is doing it every single day. Just listen BBC to believe it.
You call me illiterate? I'd bet you most of us are better educated than the average British, in my country University is a universal right which means EVERY ONE can have access to it not the ones who are wealthy or had the chance to pay 50,000 for a degree.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; I have a Masters of Science degree! As for harm and divide us! Who pray tell are us ? As I wrote before, your comments are uneducated, ill researched and frankly childish. However as you and your countrymen are so intelligent you will not need Northern European money to sort out your mess? Fat chance.
s13hgp 4 months ago
@s13hgp " I have a Masters of Science degree! As for harm and divide us! Who pray tell are us ? As I wrote before, your comments are uneducated, ill researched and frankly childish. However as you and your countrymen are so intelligent you will not need Northern European money to sort out your mess? Fat chance."
Crazy, bizarre guy you are. You are not they only one with a Degree idiot! Get you, your pound and your hypocrite smooth rude culture to hell. I am done with you.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@jtmedina75 ; You are done with me? Ha Ha
s13hgp 4 months ago
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@s13hgp "The concept of full political and fiscal involvement in the EU has never been put to the populous here, we value our freedom and democracy. As for who we really are , take a trip to the WW 1/2 graves in Northern France then dare to insult my people! Frankly you disgust me!"
No sir you disgust me! selfish people praying for a whole currency to fail and spreading false rumors about the Euro, that's what's disgusting. You only want to hear one side, your side.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@s13hgp "My condolences". Time will tell,
Besides British are showing themselves who they really are. Thank you for making it clearer.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@Aptitude It is part of Europe, which is the point I'm trying to make. Don't worry I'm anti-EU, I'm just telling these morons (whom must have failed Geography) that the UK is part of the european continent.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
Oborne doesn't back any of his comments and is just using vile language to that poor spokesman. He's the idiot for behaving childishly on live television.
Phunker1 4 months ago
@Phunker1 Vile language? You need to get a grip on reality. This 'poor' spokesman is helping to destroy entire nations of millions baecause he is not prepared to admit that him and his ilk are, and have allways been wrong. This is vile; You are a complete and utter cunt, that sucks rotting corpse penis. Stop being so fucking sensitive.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago 2
@FreedomFighterUK
Right .. Captain Freedom Fighter UK ..what a ridiculous name.. point well made, you're just as vile as that tosser Oborne . You really believe what he sais? The Euro is destroying nations? Bollocks! Some countries just spent too much money and too much of that was borrowed. Now they are having problems to pay it back and it's as simple as that. Still, I don't expect you to understand basic accounting. Come on, Go and watch some telly..
Phunker1 4 months ago
@Phunker1 'what a ridiculous name' and Phunker1 is clearly the moniker of an intellectual. Why is Greece unable to rectify the situation it is in now? Because the ECB and IMF are dictating what the Greeks can or can't do with their own country, now that is vile. Forcing economically diverse nations together in monetary union is ridiculous, as are you. The actions of the EU fanatics are destroying nations and usurping national sovereignty.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
@FreedomFighterUK No one is dictating anything. If Greece wants a currency backed by strong nations, they have to obey some rules. If they don't want that, they can get out. Trouble is, that the drachma won't be worth a lot and they will have to pay a lot more for their debt than they are paying now. If they on the other hand fail to pay it back, no one is gonna give Greece any credit. It's a vicious circle, caused by reckless spending and not by any "euro fanatics" as you call them.
Phunker1 4 months ago
@Phunker1 1)- 'the drachma won't be worth a lot and they will have to pay a lot more for their debt than they are paying now. If they on the other hand fail to pay it back, no one is gonna give Greece any credit. It's a vicious circle' Yes, it's a viscious circle that needs to be broken, and it certainly won't be whilst Greece are EU members beholden to the ECB & IMF. The Greeks need to default, reinstate the Drachma and suffer for a few years. The country would benefit after a few years....
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
@FreedomFighterUK 2)- ....hardship. I never said that the Greek crisis was due to the actions of financial institutions or euro-fanatics, it was down to irresponsible spending & borrowing. But the solution offered up by the Euro-fanatics is destroying Greece. Their failure to acknowledge the fundamental faults of the EU federalist model are the root cause of Europes failure to 'bounce back'. We essentially have politicians in control of economics, which is pathetic and dangerous.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
@Phunker1 The 'global recession' was caused (in a majority of European nations) by financial institutions. Ever heard of derivatives, toxic assets and junk bonds? I don't expect you to understand basic economics you reactionary twit. Go and watch some TV Phunker. I do not believe I am a freedom fighter, I pressume you believe you are a phunker? What does that mean? p.s. my moniker is FreedomFighterUK not Captain Freedom Fighter, I think you may need some glasses as well as a hearing-aid.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
@Phunker1 Read both of my comments. I'm leaving this third message to tell you that there is two comments because you are visually impaired and will have difficulty in realising this.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
@FreedomFighterUK
Whohoo, verbal fist fights on youtube. I think we give it a bone for now.
Phunker1 4 months ago
Alemania perdió la 2 guerra mundial, y en 50 años a aprendido a ser mas humildes y solidarios con el resto de Europa, sin embargo los vencedores Inglaterra USA, Rusia ,aprendieron a ser mas prepotentes y la falta de humildad y solidaridad brillan por su ausencia.
231de300 4 months ago
The true Europe is Germany ,France, Spain, Finland,Greece,Portugal,holland... This countrys running to the future creation of great european nation, Others countrys parasites,only wanted economics aventadge, BERLÍN IS THE CAPITAL OF EUROPE.
231de300 4 months ago
What Osborne said is true, it's also OFFENSIVE to hear and suffer the decisions that those people in Bruxells make... They KILLED agriculture in Greece, the KILLED fishing industry in Portugal, they WASTED billions in uncontroled subsidies, and THAT IS THE REASON why Euro Countries are falling down!
Clean Bruxells from mercenaries like D.B. and sent there the best minds... not the worse.
ArchitectJacinto 4 months ago
Peter Oborne you no are european the problens of Europe no is you problen, go to the shit english idiot.
231de300 4 months ago
@231de300 What are you on about!!! Explain why Denmark, Norway, Sweden are not on the brink of bancupcy!? Hmm....maybe because they are not in the Euro. Explain why Switzerland is not going bankrupt or Poland!???
Supersmooth007 4 months ago
@231de300 I can barely understand that. What I think you are trying to say is that the UK is not part of Europe. I suggest you look at a map.
FreedomFighterUK 4 months ago
the filthy rich thinks of amassing enormous fortunes, the poor men works hard to put some food on the table,millions of people are at the verge, if not starving waiting for a single man to fix the economy,it takes at least six of the most brilliant men and a brainstorm to come up with positive results,elect twenty of the most brilliant men in the U S TO SOLVE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS,MAKE IT LESS COMPLICATED FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, NO MORE EXPENSIVE ELECTIONS,AMERICA NEEDS A CHANGE,
1alvar 4 months ago
@Aptitude The UK is the only country really opposing to the Euro and the Europeans. The only beneficiary from the fall of the euro it would be the UK, every one else would be in serious trouble is the euro falls.
The Euro and the EU is the best that it could happen to us all, not only we have a common currency but we can trade freely using it.
British will never join the Euro ever, it's just too much for them because they lack the commitment we all had when left our currencies behind.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
Peter Oborne is a vile man.
MrIehova 4 months ago
@Aptitude Agreed we they should have joined in the EU with better economy but the way out to this problem is not killing the Euro and that's what they are saying. We can't just go back to our former currencies like nothing happens.
But it's true and I can see it in my own country Spain. Here politicians are doing nothing to create jobs or improve the health of our economy and my guess is that the Greeks aren't doing any either.
Killing the Euro is NOT the way out.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
its about time there was some accountability."idiot" is a too nicer word to use for such person thats been paid to do the dirty talk for the evil communist puppets.
dangerousslave 4 months ago
It's not the Euro it's debt the main problem and the UK is not excluded of that.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
@iddo555 "Germany has a bigger debt to GDP that the UK does, are you saying they are broke?"
No, I am saying British media is misleading people about the Euro when they also have problems with their debt. It's not just a problem with European debt, it's about the whole system. USA 14 trillion, UK 1 trillion, Germany 1.5 Trillion. The problem is we are all in trouble but British media keeps teasing saying it's the Euro and people take the bait.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
If European countries were closer together everything would be better, but countries like the UK does not imply a more united Europe, do not want the euro do not want rates to banks, tax havens remain protectorates ... UK only wants Europe's economic advantage as they have always echo in history. Europe needs you.
231de300 4 months ago
Greece is Europe UK NO!, Germans good european patriots, england out of Europe.
231de300 4 months ago 2
Full interview not this rip off
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jtmedina75 4 months ago
If 'gratutitously offensive' remarks send an idiot running for his mummys skirts then let that be a lesson as to how incompetent the European Union architects really are. Call a spade a spade, I say!
WytRaven1 4 months ago 4
Wake up Europeans British are trying to divide us and they are doing it. The problem is not the Euro, it's those irresponsible countries that are doing nothing to fix their economies but asking for more and more money.
Banks and housing started it all!!.
WAKE UP!!! .
jtmedina75 4 months ago
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction 40% of our GDP.
jtmedina75 4 months ago
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction (40% of our GDP).
jtmedina75 4 months ago
Remember 1 TRILLION POUNDS IN DEBT 65% of its GDP and no one protest in the UK.
That's just a intelligent maneuver of the British media to once and for all destroy the Euro and with it any Euro competitor in the long term.
We Europeans should say no to give more money to those irresponsible countries that are not doing a thing to fix their economies including my own country Spain a bunch of irresponsible people only relying on construction (40% of our GDP).
jtmedina75 4 months ago
Fantastic, finally sanity has returned!
Garciamrcool 4 months ago
How that piece of shit insult a man worldwide? You are Idiot's F@cker!S !!
NikolaidisJohn 4 months ago
La elegancia británica es un falso esterotipo; queda demostrado. El que no lo crea que vaya a Torremolinos cualquier noche.
Zurullodecogna 4 months ago
this was the most awkward thing ever to watch...
mitchellCas 4 months ago
this guy "peter oborne" sounds like a fucking redneck from the bush ! better cut his rosebeef head off
alexismayissian 4 months ago
@alexismayissian Irony...
RoryMacLeodFitness 4 months ago
Typical Brittish Knobs!!!!
tom8357qld 4 months ago
@tom8357qld i was about to say the same thing
bennolen2 4 months ago
@tom8357qld Typical Australian Knobs !!!!
PEABALLS 4 months ago
Australia
w3b3d1g1 4 months ago 4
@w3b3d1g1 i thumbed up your comment for no other reason than being an aussie myself. how patriotic.
FrozenFlame333 4 months ago
@w3b3d1g1 i thumbed up your comment for no other reason than being an aussie myself. how patriotic.
FrozenFlame333 4 months ago
Crisis over Guys- Greece has just this morning paid up all its debts in full!
Great to hear some good news for a change!
SuperTruth77 4 months ago
@SuperTruth77 Doesnt solve the problem of the uselessness of the government....
weebleking70 4 months ago
Absolutely brilliant, finally the BBC are giving the Eurosceptics some airtime.
skigod1000 4 months ago 6
@skigod1000
I agree it is great, Mr Oborne is rambling around in the studio like a drunk hooligan. First he showing his absolute lack of any manners and then he is proving Godwins law. If EU skeptics are impressed by that I have to agree with that "idiot in Brussels", it speaks for itself.
TheJiral 4 months ago
Why am i watching this video? I was looking for a nice entertaining video
MILSWANCAs 4 months ago
fuck im speechless
woo216 4 months ago
Australia.
fanofsongs 4 months ago 3
Go Peter Oborne, say it how it is!!
jusdathang 4 months ago 2
GREECE IS BANKRUPT, it is being bailed out because when it actually goes under the money it owes stops flowing to its(creditors/predators) and then they have to find hundreds of billions to fill the gap mainly because of the fractional reserve mechanism. DEBT is being taken out in the name of the people and given mainly to banks. WHEN THEY ARE BANKRUPT our appointed politicians bail the out, sometime soon many countries will officially declare bancruptcy. what then...
citymad155 4 months ago
im so happy i live in norway. we dont have to deal with a corrupt EU and a fraudulent euro. lol i feel victorious! we dont follow dictates from brussels and we dont need to bail out any country :) it is better to engage in bilateral relations because every country is different.
Switzerland and Norway just proved there is more life outside the EU and euro :D
HIELLE NORGE! :D
Wisdomfanatic2011 4 months ago 8
im from germany and i want to abolish the eu and euro too. it is not working anymore! merkel and her foolish dogs want us to pay for greece for what? to continue the greeks' lavish lifestyle? they want us to bail out a country that cannot manage its own money??? eu and euro dysfunctional!
Vidcon2014 4 months ago 5
@Vidcon2014 just take the british ideology on government. ALL POLITICIANS ARE USELESS BLOODY WANKERS
andy0705b 4 months ago
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This Peter Oborne, besides being the IDIOT inte the studio, is extremely arrogant and ignorant. If he knew what greeks have done before and after they join the EURO, he would understand that this is not a EURO problem, but simply a GREEK problem. A mentality problem: payng debt with MORE debt. And it would be there FOREVER if they have never joined the EURO...
LexVanthor 4 months ago
@LexVanthor then why is there a bail out in the first place? lol if it is a greek problem, why force other people in other countries suffer by sacrificing their tax money to save a fiscally irresponsible country? lol silly eurofags. they create more debt to save one country's debt. i dont know how they are going to force italians and spaniards and irish to pay more to your rescue fund to bail out greece when they cannot even fund their own countries. so much stupidity at work in the big EU lie.
vivaamerica2011 4 months ago 3
EU = EUROPEAN DEBT UNION
JPRizal2000 4 months ago 3
EU = MERDE!!!! IL EST CORROMPU!
lifeworthliving2010 4 months ago 3
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS IN BRUSSELS!
PITCHFORK BARROSO!
takemybreathawayok 4 months ago
the end of the eu has come
123theJapan 4 months ago
Time to get out of this eu technocratic dictatorship by self-acclaimed communist Barroso and his corrupt sheep in brussels. they are just creating debt to save a country's debt. Ireland Greece Spain Italy France are better off without the euro and eu. They can manage their own problems without dictates from brussels. no wonder why eu parties are almost all socialists and communists. the funding for countries are favoring those of poorer countries when the ones paying are the rich ones. UNFAIR!
flowerpuff2001 4 months ago 15
@flowerpuff2001 The EU MP Commisioner also said the Euro was Political not Econonical and the Euro is a shield and that is a factor that has protected a number of Europe economies, bringing stability and prosperity!" - I mean how ignorant can he get!?? How come Denmark, Norway, Sweden [Kroner] or Poland, [Zloty) even Switzerland are not on the brink of bankrupcy!? - Why? hmm...maybe because they're not in the Euro currency. So for him to say it's creating stability and prosperity is beyond me!
Supersmooth007 4 months ago
Hmm, i agree. I think that Euro plays a big role in the shut the fuck up community. NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK, WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE IT WAS IN TREND
CottonHatLuffy 4 months ago
Well done Peter Oborne! We need more people who say it like it is. And the guy in Brussells was an idiot.
timcwightman 4 months ago
what a jerk
scbrother 4 months ago
I like that guy!
stetsonwalker 4 months ago
Peter Oborne reminds me of prothero off V for Vendetta...
thejaron23 4 months ago
you bet!
tabifilou 4 months ago
Just have a war u fuck nuts
yamum0433 4 months ago
@iddo555 The UK is not much better off than the Euro almost One Trillion in debt.
ninelivecat 4 months ago
@ninelivecat and 3 trillion GDP. so the GDP offsets the debts. Since countries joined the euro, they got more debt! ireland, greece, italy, spain! now france! and germany now has no growth! pathetic european union... more like european DEBT union.
flowerpuff2001 4 months ago
@flowerpuff2001 It's wrong to compare Ireland and Greece against the UK They are only small economies as for Germany she is overall in better shape than the UK Maybe you should get out of the European Union altogether and join up with the USA
ninelivecat 4 months ago
@ninelivecat well, i thought everyone's equal in the european union? what is this smaller larger disparity? lol does that mean just because germany is big it has a bigger say in this fraudulent union? is that why there has always been a trade imbalance in europe? yep, i cant wait for the UK to get out of the EU. We dont need the EU and your filthy regulations. We've been better off outside the EU and your warlords. Good luck with your germanized europe, i bet hitler is partying in hell right now
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flowerpuff2001 4 months ago
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@ninelivecat and if i may say, you're a liar. your profile says your from the uk but you call the uk as a third person point of view. lol what a loser you are, bullock. get lost and get a life. a life in your soviet rathole in brussels.
flowerpuff2001 4 months ago
You're all so right!
HioPojac 4 months ago
abolish the EU and set the people free from the chains of Barroso and his scums politicians in brussels
123theJapan 4 months ago 2
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the queen is a dirty slut
JustSomeGuyOk 4 months ago
eu yuck
fixingbraincell 4 months ago
Va te faire foutre, EU!
EUROFAGS, BRULE EN ENFER! JE T'EMMERDE!
lifeworthliving2010 4 months ago
With Obama as the American leader, we wish we were Greece!
islandmuffin 4 months ago
@islandmuffin It takes a special kind of “idiot” to look at Greece and say “I want some of that” but that is the reality of America’s democrat party.
15 more months
kuhioffxi 4 months ago
@islandmuffin no you don't
mitra32203 4 months ago
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that's unprofessional bad teeth UK fags for you. useless posers
JustSomeGuyOk 4 months ago
The truth is offensive to those globalist fools!
islandmuffin 4 months ago
EUROPEAN DEBT UNION HAHAHA
vivaamerica2011 4 months ago
REFERENDUM NOW! fck that debt union! i will never pay my taxes for politicians and technocrats in Brussels to spend on.
takemybreathawayok 4 months ago
The left, is not just wrong, Euro-socialists are dogmatically stupid.
islandmuffin 4 months ago
so europe wants to increase the "rescue fund" which will make another debt to save greece from debts...
DEBT! EUROPEAN DEBT UNION.
NewRuss2011 4 months ago