With all due respect to your individuality and your right to judge, be reflexible in your perceptions. What she means is Those Arabs that own the power to call the shots. And I would dare to venture that these kinds of Arabs are the same ones (I'm against) that are condemned passionately by those Arabs who have no power to have it differently, the same ones that would cut their own mother's throats (in a manner of speaking of course) to rush to Israel or America to be more free.
Greenspan, Rand (Rosenbaum) and Gordon Gekko all sitting in an apartment... "say, couldn't we design a philosophy that rationalizes being a greedy bastard, racist prick, sexist misogynist and blithering ignorant idiot that won't shut up?" and the typewriter starts ticking away...
its almost like everyone in her presence cant even comprehend how much more intelligent she is than them.. she sits up on stage looking down towards donahue and the audience trying to understand her ideas. its also interesting how arrogance and defensiveness are mixed up so frequently between the people
I think Ayn Rand had some amazing things to say, but her views on Israel and women being in power I just can't stomach. But that's not to say that her philosophy was wrong, we just differ on some issues. Anyway, thanks for uploading these :)
@emilylouisechurchos But she made a pretty good point. I mean, look at what the people in power do. If women are inherently better in nature than men, and, in a subjective way, I can see that being true, then why should a woman want to be in that position? And if she is, one might question her goodness. Also, if she was in that position and still inherently of a better nature than men, less corruptible, then she would never make it to that position in the first place. See: American Politics.
and I thought I was opinionated lol... still, for her age, she was definitely on her game, great stuff. i wish we had something like this show around today, ya know, that intelligently discussed topics and ideas of actual relevance.
I admire Rand greatly, but I do disagree with her about Israel, a country that has been as terroristic towards the Arabs (Palestinians) as they towards Israel. I think here she was just misinformed, as during those years it was quite difficult to get objective info about both sides and any "pro Arab" view was considered "communist".
shes wrong about israel. they have been responsible for more innocent killing that the arabs have been. the jews there are way to territorial about there holy land
@conraddoavil Killing enemy soldiers in a war is not "innocent killing". But blowing car bombs and firing thousands of high explosive rockets at civilians certainly is.
@AlexNOSAM Palestine does not have a fucking army. Not even the other arab states want them. So yes Israel has the right to defend themselves against countries like Egypt and Lebanon. But if they truly want peace then they better just allow the arabs to live on their land in peace. Or at least establish a state for palestine so the violence ends. It would end if they put religion aside and lived by what was most comfortable for everyone. not this bullshit about "THIS IS MY HOLY LAND! FUCK YOU!"
@conraddoavil The land really plays no role here. Believe me over 80% of Israelis would give up most of the land the Palestinians demand not tomorrow but yesterday. And a Palestinian state could be established by now too.
There are two problems with those basic arguments. First they can't even resolve the conflicts between them so they are incapable of sustaining a decent leadership. Second, a lot of them want all of that land not even the 67 borders and they're ready to fight until death for it
@AlexNOSAM thats well you just contradicted yourself by saying that land plays no role in it. then saying that they are willing to fight for the death to have it. The israelis are really in the drivers seat when it comes to solving these problems. they could negotiate instead of adopting the evils the muslims practice when they kill innocent people. but if they're both going to have the mentality of dying for anything (which is a form of altruism) then nothing will be solved
@conraddoavil Land plays no role here - for the Israeli side anyways... In the Arab culture land is sacred (this isn't a Palestinian thing). And they sure have a lot of extremists who are ready to kill themselves killing along Israeli civilians any day like they did in 2009, 2002, pre 1967, 1948, 1938, 1929 and back to 1921 when THEIR SIDE began the whole Arab-Israeli conflict.
The Israeli 'extremists' are merely settlers and most of them don't even own weapons.
@AlexNOSAM willing to die for a supposed good cause is altruism. Don't act like land is only sacred to arabs. It's time that america woke up and realized that israel is not as innocent as it wants people to think it is. sure they may have gone on their land but to my knowledge i don't think they wanted to take it from the jews. so if that is the case then its really israels fault for being so hostile to outsiders
@conraddoavil Well you're missing the root of the conflict here. In their opinion we're the foreign colonial invaders who settled in their ancestors' land (which is holy for them). And they want to drive us out of here at all costs. They started the conflict by terrorizing the settlers that came to that land in 1921 and the settlers responded by organizing a defense military of their own "HaHagana" - "The Defense (force)". Way to much to talk about in a YouTube comment...
@conraddoavil Slaughtering? Puh-leeze... Israelis have done no more 'slaughtering' than the states did in Iraq and Afghanistan and quite frankly every other military operation or war on earth. Civilian casualties are to be expected.
However if you want to know who really wants to hurt civilians go visit Gaza and have a chit-chat with the kids who are educated that blowing themselves up in a civilian bus is ok (2002) and that firing rockets at towns and cities is legitimate (since 2005)...
@AlexNOSAM the Israelis teach there kids to shoot when they're in kindergarten! Gaza strip is a perfect example that the Jews refuse to live in peace! They inhabited that land they didn't kick out the jews! and the Jews go on screaming about how its their holyland! it might be true but the idiots who can't handle gods power should abandon it!
@AlexNOSAM well i have learned that muslims teach there children things that are much worse than what the israelis continue to teach their children. if they want peace they need to break the cycle of teacher eachother to hate eachother
@Esoparagon No you are wrong! These people all preached Altruism self sacrifice for the greater "good" of the state or society. She was against Communism. Nothing worse than a person who lies to make their point valid.
@Esoparagon I am sorry that you don't see that Communism is asking people to be completely altruistic If you cannot see this then there is no hope for you and I don't need to waste my time explaining this simple concept to you.
@lisettesvision It is. It's an hypocrite way to say "when I was young and dumb, I thought you were intelligent". Even if i disagree with Ayn rand on those topics, it's a very impolite way to introduce oneself indeed.
@lisettesvision I don't believe she was insulting her BUT rather as she was growing up she believed her but as she got older and uncountered other views she changed her views. Ms. Rand is and was VERY arrogant because you could NEVER question her and her believes. The basis's for that is listening to her interviews. She is a GREAT writer but when she opens her mouth all the intelligence leaves her. If for you think that she was insulting then she she be used to it.
@luceean What do you think she's doing in this interview? She's having her beliefs questioned and she answered them politely. Sanctioning disrespect does not imply arrogance. She is extremely confident in her philosophy as any good philosopher should be.
@The727stpete727 He is Questioning her. Ms. Rand is saying I'm not her to defend my point of view. What I say is right. It's like when people say you can take or leave my advise but if you don't take it your an idiot. She acts as tho she is the smartest on in the room. She is not even original. She just took what others have have said and expanded it.
@luceean She's saying I'm not here to defend my viewpoint? You're the fucking idiot she answered the question after donahue asked it politely. She created an entire philosophy based on rational principles. Anybody that has a problem with reason and being objective is a moron by definition.
@The727stpete727 So let me get this Straight your on a TV show TALKING about your Beliefs and wont Depend them?!? And these were NOT even her OWN she just stood on the back of others. The only way you can defend yourself is by calling names?! Her philosophy is VERY flawed!
Her books are GREAT until she opens her mouth, then it all tanks.
@The727stpete727 Now you can make a sentence without calling someone a name. I'm Not saying self-sacrifice is a good thing but I do believe in Religion and I'm not too depressed so that isn't correct. I seem to have something Rand and you don't seem to have; I have peace. Peace to let me know that if no one agrees with me it's just fine and I don't have to MAKE them or belittle them because they don't. When you reach that you will understand what I'm saying.
@luceean Oh that contentment must be the reason you perpetuate this argument lol if you didn't want your anti-rand beliefs heard or disputed you wouldn't have put your comments on youtube, check your premises. I could care less if you agree with me or anyone for that matter unless they stand in my way of success. That is, success attained by upholding moral standards, not success derived from coercion and government privilege.
@The727stpete727 No, I just will not let you get the last word. I never said I have a problem with defending my own believes. You seem to because when I disagreed with you, you when on the attack.
@luceean Well religion is based on self-sacrifice and you're "Not saying self-sacrifice is a good thing" so you obviously have contradictions in your philosophy, talk about flawed lol. You may have the last word if you wish, you don't make interesting arguments, I'm done.
@The727stpete727 No it's not! How can I TRULY help someone else when I cant help myself? If it was not interesting, you sure kept coming back again and again.
All she is doing is asserting that her "objectivist" moral values are the only true moral values that exist. This is blatant non sense and is NOT based on reason as she likes to claim.
@ryan84160 - Show me a true moral value that is NOT Objective and then you can call it nonsense. By the way, if you haven't read 'Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand' then you will not know what she is talking about. Her philosophy defines an Objective code of values and why a human being needs to have values. Then it shows you how to put them into the context of a human life and the requirements that need to be met in order to live life to your full potential. Read it, you might like it.
@djangothecat ALLL moral values are SUBJECTIVE. Just as my preference for chocolate cake over vanilla is my SUBJECTIVE opinion, Any Rands "moral values" are her SUBJECTIVE opinions even thought she likes to pretend otherwise. If you are going to claim that your moral values are objective, I am going to have to ask you to prove it. How are you going to prove that your personal opinion is objectively true?
@ryan84160 - Chocolate over vanilla is your opinion but the 'fact' that you need food in order to survive IS an objective fact. In a way, that's the beginning of her moral system. A human is not like an animal that survives by instinct. A human MUST use reason in order to survive. And the more rational you are and in contact with reality, the more you will flourish in life. If these comment boxes allowed 10 pages I could continue from this beginning and show how she gets to Objective values...
@djangothecat "Chocolate over vanilla is your opinion but the 'fact' that you need food in order to survive IS an objective fact." I don't follow you at all. This is a non-sequitur. One is a subjective opinion and one is a fact. What is your point ?
Im still not hearing anything that addresses the fact that Ayn Rand considers her personal opinions and values to be objective facts.
@ryan84160 - Rand shows that moral values are Objective but it can't be explained in this short comment format. Most people are searching for the answers to these questions of morality and there are hundreds of opinions. Ayn Rand didn't invent morality, she just discovered a proper code of values and proves them to be Objective. I can't prove in 500 characters what she takes a book to prove. I told you what book to get if you are interested. If not then good luck on your search for answers : )
I'd vote for a strong conservative woman, before I vote for a wimpy, coddling, appologistic, emotional liberal man any day of the week.
But on the lighter side, have you ever seen how two woemn behave when they show up to a party wearing the same dress? My God can imagine, and let's not forget the "special time of the month" when their such a pleasure to hang around.
Isreal is surrounded by countries who pray for the destruction and murder of every man woman and child, yet Donahue's going to advocate for the poor "Arabs" who just want peace. And they'll have that peace as soon as all the Jews are dead.
This is the kind of crap that makes me sick to my stomach. These are the people who get other people killed, with their inability to call a spade a spade, for fear of offending someone.
@ChaosDynamics Here it is put simply. The best man for the job will always be better than the best woman for the job. That's what she means when she says, 'if the standards had fallen that low.' Taking your example, the top 100 best male soldiers in the world are vastly superior to the top 100 best female soldiers in the world. The best female soldier in the world could not compete with the best male soldier in the world. This is her point based on the sex differences. I agree with it.
I love this lady. She is so sure of herself I always feel refreshed and hopful after listening to her speak. I love the way she responded to the "rude" lady in the last segment. I have three young children and i have tried to teach them manners to the best of my ability. Not many people today understand the full meaning of being respectful. For those of you who watch this and are confused about her philosophy or want more information i recomend 'Ayn rand for begginers'.
I think that woman was both brilliant and ignorant at the same time. Obviously at different things and to that affect who isn't, but poeple who hold her up as womderful on all of her phlisophies and ideas are JUST fans.
@Thayer79 exactly. at 2:11, the same thing was done by Isreali forces in 1967 on the USS Liberty, the same terrorism and violence were the same by the Mossad..and yes Isreal has the right of self-defense, but not at the expense of just and righteous society.
@Thayer79 I agree. I therefore, call myself an Objectivist, rather than an Ayn Rand follower. But I think it's important to see the difference between her philosophy and her personal taste in things (like romantic art). She has also released a statement about how she was fascinated by that hickman guy, but I don't think it's part of the objectivist philosophy. It was probably just the fact that she may have been attracted to dominant/sadistic men, which is just a personal taste.
ayn rand is merely a reductionist, she is full of contradictions, she just uses intellectual jargon to disconcert the apposers of her philosophy. no philosopher has ever resonated within me as much as Alan Watts did.
superlucci: (continued)- I basically just find Rand's views fundamentally incompatible with Christianity. Rand is also purposely taken out of context by the Right in relation to today's American situation and the use of terms such as Socialism/Capitalism. Her ideas of capitalism lean more towards fascism and is not supportive of democracy. She also revered sociopath and serial killer dehumanizing qualities. The Right always chooses the self centered path first then looks for justification.
@tmikeb1717 if you believe that Rand's ideas lean towards fascism you have no understanding of the term. fascism is what a mixed economy with government force and regulation is - fascism it is what we have this very moment in time. Rand is for pure capitalism where control is in the hands of the consumer at all times. Please provide proof of you unsubstantiated claim "She also revered sociopath and serial killer dehumanizing qualities" - it seems you have just strung some words together.
superlucci : No, I don't think you have to agree on everything to see value in one's views. I do have a problem with the Right's 40 yr courtship with Christians/south based on token Christian soundbites church infiltration. I'm Christian but resent tax exempt status for a preacher's rhetoric swaying congregations to the right. Rand was intelligent but incompatible with Christian values and reconciled only in ignorance. The Right is like Rand and unlike Christ or Jefferson,Madison,Franklin,etc
Isn't it a little strange...or maybe just revealing of true colors...that the right wing would openly start looking at Rand in reverence....such as Paul Ryan stating her as a personal hero...when the woman...considered a nut by her contemporaries...detested Christianity...was against everything Christ stood for...believing that compassion and altruism to be evil weaknesses...etc. etc....and this coming from the self proclaimed party of Christians...too bad so many misguided Christians belief it
Isn't it a little strange...or maybe just revealing of true colors...that the right wing would openly start looking at Rand in reverence....such as Paul Ryan stating her as a personal hero...when the woman...considered a nut by her contemporaries...detested Christianity...was against everything Christ stood for...believing that compassion and altruism to be evil weaknesses...etc. etc....and this coming from the self proclaimed party of Christians...too bad so many misguided Christians belief it.
@tmikeb1717 Isnt it a little strange....that you think that if somebody agrees and reveres somebody....has to agree with EVERY SINGLE POINT that the person has made?
@BurningOrchids Wrong. She obviously can't take criticism. The lady was rude, yes, but Rand did not have to act like a child and say if you ask nicely, then i'll answer the question. Stop sucking up to her and look at both sides.
Her big big flaw was her ignorance or stupidity about the arabs being violent. The jewish murdering of thousands of women and children in refugee camps goes all the way back to the 1960-70 and is a confirmed fact by Red Cross.
What the fuck, Khazar Jews have been murdering Palestinian women and children for 60 + years. Does anyone believe the lies coming out of this Jewish woman's mouth?
It's extremely interesting to me how this woman's psychology has shaped her philosophy. It is an inescapable fact that we are all human and are dynamically influenced by our environments, history and the fundamental way in which we interact with other human beings. I disagree with her philosophy and can understand the appeal of it for others, but even more importantly, I find her personal characteristics very instrumental in understanding why she has developed this view of existence.
KInd of funny reading all the gushing comments about Rand and how astonishingly intelligent she supposedly is. She does a bang 'em up job of demonstrating her prejudice against Arabs. Objectivism my ass.
@NuclearKid i myself was a little surprised at how forward she was, but are you saying that the theocratic centers of power in the middle-east don't strive to keep the people down through denying education and discouraging independent thought?
come to think of it, don't most religions drift that way? no wonder she's an atheist.
@RadocracyTV I'm not fan of religion either. I just am repulsed at how she classified all Arabs as "savages" and all Israelis as angels. Give me a break. There are, literally, thousands upon thousands of videos on YouTube showing Israelis maiming, killing and destroying the Palestinians. They hold all the power, yet they (the Israelis) are the ones acting like complete savages. Anyone with an objective eye can see this.
@NuclearKid Both sides are extremely guilty. I won't delve into that debate, thats for another video...another forum....another time lol I will say though that a lot of the rhetoric from outside of Israel goes without serious consideration simply because Israel has a superpower ally.
Rand is obviously a million times more intelligent and knowledgeable than these people but when presented with one of her views that is at odds with their received opinions they automatically reject it and even go so far as to laugh at her as if what she said is so self evidently incorrect that it's funny, ignoring the fact that, again, Rand is considerably more intelligent and knowledgeable than them. It's depressing and downright scary when you think of the implications.
How the audience failed to understand that the woman who said, "I used to to agree with you, but now that I am more educated I don't," was insulting her I shall never know. She was obviously implying a causal relationship between her further education and disagreement with Rand. She may as well have said, "Now that I'm not stupid anymore, I disagree with you." Obvious insult, folks.
@gusgusthegreat I get the feeling that most of the audience was hostile to her ideas, and probably saw the woman's comment as a clever jab rather than an insult. I, personally, did think it was insulting. And to Ayn's point, politeness is now even more in decline than it was back then, which is too bad, I think. I'm all for resisting the powers that be or protesting and whatnot, but civil discourse is best.
this woman is pretty amazing, very wise. i don't think she is half as eloquent as say Milton Friedman but that doesn't mean she is not good at understanding life and some of some of the evils that have surfaced as "services" to those in need. very sound thinker. i admire her.
I feel the urge to point out that Ms. Rand's desparaging comments about the conflict in Israel was (at least to me) clearly directed at the ones doing the attacking and oppressing? I don't think she said it because she didn't feel the need. As far as my estimation, it was already qualified when she said on numerous occasions during this interview that force and violence are evil. That being said, obviously those stuck in the middle weren't included in her commentary
I served under three female commanders in the HMKG, and though they were equal or superior athletes, technical expertise and military drill they did not have the tactical instinct or the killer instinct on the ground in battlefield excercises. Iam sure there are exceptions, but we must generalize if we are to hold a true perspective on reality, generalization is the foundation for all wisdom.
@killerbee2k How can generalising 'hold a true perspective on reality' when you admit that there are exceptions?
'A true perspective on reality' would include the exceptions and that would not be generalising because generalising excludes exceptions.
'A true perspective on reality' would include all the people who are alike and the exceptions too. So for that reason generalisation cannot be the 'foundation for all wisdom' because it ignores the exceptions.
@killerbee2k Statisitcs give a good idea of what's out there but I wouldn't go so far as to say that general data holds a true perspective on reality
e.g. you could take the data that the majority of prison inmates in America are black men & then use that data to generalise that all black men from poor areas are criminals. This would be wrong because there are many black men who are not criminals(exceptions). For this reason generalisation & statistics could not be a true perspective of reality
@begood20000 If through statistical generalization it concludes that most black men from predominantly poor areas are criminals, it means that when you are in a poor area and see a black man, it is most likely that he is a criminal, and thats the true perspective on reality. You can say that he may not be a criminal, but you dont have the law of probability on your side and therefore the wise rational thing to do is to take precautions such as dont lower your guard. Its not PC, but its truth.
@begood20000 and by truth I dont mean the example of black men, I mean the statistical probability and generalization. Iam not saying that you are wrong in your claim too exception, only that your premise about exceptions being wrong in the context of generalization is false statement. I can send you a list of some good books on statistics if you want. Its fascinating in understanding and falsifying studies done by others, and for use in ones own studies :)
I wish we had more shows like Donahue today, like he said "Its easy to wave the flag, but I dont want to that, I want to understand" and his humility is awesome, humility is almost non-existent in the talk show business today.
Aynd Rand is such a realist it scares people, the President is commander in cheif and Men are naturally more militant, physically stronger than women.
Can somebody tell me what Ayn Rand is being asked at 4:25? I have no idea what the heck Goldemayer is, or however the heck you spell it. Someone please help.
Golda Meir was the prime minister of Israel (perhaps its most famous one), most memorably during the 1973 Yom Kippur war between Israel on one hand vs. Egypt and Syria on the other. She had a reputation for being tough much in a similar vein as Magaret Thatcher though as Rand points out accurately, Meir was a leftist while Thatcher was for capitalism. Hope that helps.
well, the US Navy have women commading ships now, and damn good at it. i like miss rand but, some of hers view are a little extreme. i would have voted for Hillary though. I spent a year in Afghanistan (2009), and the people there are kinda behind the eightball, and you couldn't really trust them either, because they were prone to pulling "switch-a-roos" and try to kill us.. what's amazing about this video, is that it's dated 1979, Now (2010), most of us do blame Arabs for terrorist acts..
@chuobio It always was. The difference between people's mentality from back then and now is that the people who make shows up discovered people like shit from the genre you mentioned.
After watching the entire 5 part series, I now know why libertarians like Murray Rothbard left her "camp", and douchebags like Alan Greenspan, stayed. With all that she had to say about monopolies, and government "favoritism", not one mention of the Federal Reserve, or the debt-based monetary system. The Fed, and fiat currency are Socialist institutions.
Her support of Israel over the Arabs goes against her own non-interventionist and non-aggression doctrines, as well.
@mikemat3307 Well, she never mentioned the fed verbatim, but what's she said already about how government involvement in the economy causes problems, as well as another interview where she wished there was a state and market separation as well as church and state, would seem to make it clear how she feels about it.
As for Israel, I think she was saying if she had to choose a side. Or perhaps that she's more in favor of Israel, but I don't think she necessarily said we should be involved.
I wish the Objectivists got to run the country if only to humble themselves to the fact that they too are flawed human beings who would get seduced by corruption and conyism just like every other band of idealists who took control of a nation. Just like the Marxists, they get to preach from the ivory tower. If Greenspan screws up, they can just say he wasn't Objectivist enough!
THIS WOMAN IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT, YEARS AND YEARS AHEAD OF HER TIME, AND SHE MAKES EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE INCLUDING DONAHUE LOOK LIKE A DAMN DIRTY APE
@MEpianist How was she a racist? She wrote against racism constantly. Her argument is that the free market will end racism. "We are all brothers under the skin - and I, for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it” -- Ayn Rand
@HolyShizzle "A DAMN DIRTY APE" appropriate comment for a very limited intellect. Rand came off as shrill, insensitive and condescending. She was largely ignored by some critics, but still has a following. Mind you, the one lady was absolutely correct. Atlas Shrugged was the blueprint for the Corporate Tyranny we have today, in that they are "reason guided" and her support for Isreal pretty much paints her far too subjective to be a true objectivist. Maybe her age was showing in a public format
@HolyShizzle Yeah, way ahead of her time: "it is not to a women's personal interest to rule man; it puts her in a very unhappy position." Are you kidding? Yeah, brilliantly bigoted and ignorant.
She's undoubtedly intelligent. But the legions of fanboys/girls are tiresome in their sycophantic support. Alas it seems all it takes is for one human being to present an argument in opposition to the two - or three - main ones, before we run away with it and fuck ourselves most decidedly in the ass. It happened with Karl Marx, and you better believe it'd happen with objectivism.
@wenithboy How is she racist? She made her point by making a comparison as she sees it. How is she an idiot? She's done a lot of thinking about her position before she speaks, and does not make a sweeping negative generality as you have. What's being Jewish got to do with it, esp. if she's atheistic in her belief system? Arabs DO resent change, because change is "innovation," which they do not tolerate, because they believe their religion is perfect. Perfect is not an exaggeration.
I understand most of her points except that last part about not voting for a woman that will be commanding in chief. Is she saying that only a horrible woman would want to lead an army?
@4rcane She says the only role of the government is running the police and military. Those roles are masculine in nature. We have far more women in those roles these days so maybe she would have a different opinion. Although in the military they still try to keep women away from direct combat, as they tend to lay on the ground and cry when the shooting starts.
@4rcane No I think she means it is not in a woman's nature to be a commander in chief. She said women can be leaders and intellectual equals, but commander in chief of an army of men, no. I think she also means that if it ever happened, it would only be by a huge mistake and would result in a very bad outcome.
Donahue is a bit of a dick.
Textra1 1 week ago
how prophetic is her first statement
mike6459 1 month ago in playlist Ayn Rand on Donahue 1979
Problem with Ayn Rand is she says "the arabs" and doesn't regard them as individuals. "Some arabs" do what she is describing, not all.
KyleSkullz 1 month ago
@KS
With all due respect to your individuality and your right to judge, be reflexible in your perceptions. What she means is Those Arabs that own the power to call the shots. And I would dare to venture that these kinds of Arabs are the same ones (I'm against) that are condemned passionately by those Arabs who have no power to have it differently, the same ones that would cut their own mother's throats (in a manner of speaking of course) to rush to Israel or America to be more free.
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 weeks ago
@KyleSkullz
That is such a childish and obtuse remark to make. It goes without saying that she's not referring to arabs to a person, but as a culture.
Textra1 1 week ago
Greenspan, Rand (Rosenbaum) and Gordon Gekko all sitting in an apartment... "say, couldn't we design a philosophy that rationalizes being a greedy bastard, racist prick, sexist misogynist and blithering ignorant idiot that won't shut up?" and the typewriter starts ticking away...
SEANFIR 1 month ago
@SEANFIR Funny thing is most people do not really understand how dangerous Ayn "Rand" philosophy is.
rms16006 4 weeks ago
its almost like everyone in her presence cant even comprehend how much more intelligent she is than them.. she sits up on stage looking down towards donahue and the audience trying to understand her ideas. its also interesting how arrogance and defensiveness are mixed up so frequently between the people
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XtremeRockerRambo 1 month ago
I think Ayn Rand had some amazing things to say, but her views on Israel and women being in power I just can't stomach. But that's not to say that her philosophy was wrong, we just differ on some issues. Anyway, thanks for uploading these :)
emilylouisechurchos 1 month ago
@emilylouisechurchos But she made a pretty good point. I mean, look at what the people in power do. If women are inherently better in nature than men, and, in a subjective way, I can see that being true, then why should a woman want to be in that position? And if she is, one might question her goodness. Also, if she was in that position and still inherently of a better nature than men, less corruptible, then she would never make it to that position in the first place. See: American Politics.
Khayman8888 1 month ago
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Michael Prescott: Romancing the Stone-Cold Killer: Ayn Rand and William Hickman
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kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
and I thought I was opinionated lol... still, for her age, she was definitely on her game, great stuff. i wish we had something like this show around today, ya know, that intelligently discussed topics and ideas of actual relevance.
dixiejubilee001 2 months ago
more or less spot on throughout, then it all falls apart at the end...
26Francis92 2 months ago
Ironically, Hillary Clinton has balls.
leomnyc 3 months ago
Well-behaved women rarely make history-- Well-done, Ayn!!!
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I admire Rand greatly, but I do disagree with her about Israel, a country that has been as terroristic towards the Arabs (Palestinians) as they towards Israel. I think here she was just misinformed, as during those years it was quite difficult to get objective info about both sides and any "pro Arab" view was considered "communist".
CastleIvanhoe 4 months ago
I do NOT understand how was Ayn Rand able to stand that idiot who was interviewing her.
JustSmileLifeIsGreat 5 months ago
shes wrong about israel. they have been responsible for more innocent killing that the arabs have been. the jews there are way to territorial about there holy land
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil Killing enemy soldiers in a war is not "innocent killing". But blowing car bombs and firing thousands of high explosive rockets at civilians certainly is.
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM Palestine does not have a fucking army. Not even the other arab states want them. So yes Israel has the right to defend themselves against countries like Egypt and Lebanon. But if they truly want peace then they better just allow the arabs to live on their land in peace. Or at least establish a state for palestine so the violence ends. It would end if they put religion aside and lived by what was most comfortable for everyone. not this bullshit about "THIS IS MY HOLY LAND! FUCK YOU!"
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil The land really plays no role here. Believe me over 80% of Israelis would give up most of the land the Palestinians demand not tomorrow but yesterday. And a Palestinian state could be established by now too.
There are two problems with those basic arguments. First they can't even resolve the conflicts between them so they are incapable of sustaining a decent leadership. Second, a lot of them want all of that land not even the 67 borders and they're ready to fight until death for it
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM thats well you just contradicted yourself by saying that land plays no role in it. then saying that they are willing to fight for the death to have it. The israelis are really in the drivers seat when it comes to solving these problems. they could negotiate instead of adopting the evils the muslims practice when they kill innocent people. but if they're both going to have the mentality of dying for anything (which is a form of altruism) then nothing will be solved
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil Land plays no role here - for the Israeli side anyways... In the Arab culture land is sacred (this isn't a Palestinian thing). And they sure have a lot of extremists who are ready to kill themselves killing along Israeli civilians any day like they did in 2009, 2002, pre 1967, 1948, 1938, 1929 and back to 1921 when THEIR SIDE began the whole Arab-Israeli conflict.
The Israeli 'extremists' are merely settlers and most of them don't even own weapons.
And Altruism has nothing to do..
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM willing to die for a supposed good cause is altruism. Don't act like land is only sacred to arabs. It's time that america woke up and realized that israel is not as innocent as it wants people to think it is. sure they may have gone on their land but to my knowledge i don't think they wanted to take it from the jews. so if that is the case then its really israels fault for being so hostile to outsiders
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil Well you're missing the root of the conflict here. In their opinion we're the foreign colonial invaders who settled in their ancestors' land (which is holy for them). And they want to drive us out of here at all costs. They started the conflict by terrorizing the settlers that came to that land in 1921 and the settlers responded by organizing a defense military of their own "HaHagana" - "The Defense (force)". Way to much to talk about in a YouTube comment...
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM however they got to where they are now they're both monsters for slaughtering eachother
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil Slaughtering? Puh-leeze... Israelis have done no more 'slaughtering' than the states did in Iraq and Afghanistan and quite frankly every other military operation or war on earth. Civilian casualties are to be expected.
However if you want to know who really wants to hurt civilians go visit Gaza and have a chit-chat with the kids who are educated that blowing themselves up in a civilian bus is ok (2002) and that firing rockets at towns and cities is legitimate (since 2005)...
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM the Israelis teach there kids to shoot when they're in kindergarten! Gaza strip is a perfect example that the Jews refuse to live in peace! They inhabited that land they didn't kick out the jews! and the Jews go on screaming about how its their holyland! it might be true but the idiots who can't handle gods power should abandon it!
conraddoavil 6 months ago
@conraddoavil That is simply not true.
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
@AlexNOSAM well i have learned that muslims teach there children things that are much worse than what the israelis continue to teach their children. if they want peace they need to break the cycle of teacher eachother to hate eachother
conraddoavil 6 months ago
much as I don't like Donahue, he's so much better than the garbage we have now. All we've got is John Stewart and the like.
SoulTenor 6 months ago
private citizens who resort to force are monsters ROOOOOOOFL That's what you have today in the streets LOOOOOL
FlawlessCock 6 months ago
Ayn Rand never knew herself just how much God loved her and abided in her in secret.
FlawlessCock 6 months ago
my god ralph nader at the end of the interview? that guy's a fucking dinosaur!
conraddoavil 6 months ago 6
Altruism is evil? Just wow
HomuncuIus 6 months ago
@HomuncuIus That was a perfectly valid way to refute an idea...
IHeartDenver 6 months ago
@HomuncuIus That's what Hitler, Mao, and Stalin all preached. That's what Kim Jong Il preaches today. Yes, it's deathly evil.
Esoparagon 6 months ago
@Esoparagon No wonder Ayn Rand followers are considered as such
HomuncuIus 6 months ago
@Esoparagon No you are wrong! These people all preached Altruism self sacrifice for the greater "good" of the state or society. She was against Communism. Nothing worse than a person who lies to make their point valid.
AnarchoAssassin 6 months ago
@AnarchoAssassin What? lol
Esoparagon 6 months ago
@Esoparagon I am sorry that you don't see that Communism is asking people to be completely altruistic If you cannot see this then there is no hope for you and I don't need to waste my time explaining this simple concept to you.
AnarchoAssassin 6 months ago
@AnarchoAssassin Oh. No, that's what I was saying. :)
Esoparagon 6 months ago
really interesting povs
oochakawaya 6 months ago
Saying " I used to agree with you, but now I am educated.." IS condescending. Surely I am not the only one who gets that?
lisettesvision 7 months ago 102
@lisettesvision It is. It's an hypocrite way to say "when I was young and dumb, I thought you were intelligent". Even if i disagree with Ayn rand on those topics, it's a very impolite way to introduce oneself indeed.
MrJeanSarkozy 5 months ago
@lisettesvision I don't believe she was insulting her BUT rather as she was growing up she believed her but as she got older and uncountered other views she changed her views. Ms. Rand is and was VERY arrogant because you could NEVER question her and her believes. The basis's for that is listening to her interviews. She is a GREAT writer but when she opens her mouth all the intelligence leaves her. If for you think that she was insulting then she she be used to it.
luceean 5 months ago
@luceean What do you think she's doing in this interview? She's having her beliefs questioned and she answered them politely. Sanctioning disrespect does not imply arrogance. She is extremely confident in her philosophy as any good philosopher should be.
The727stpete727 4 months ago
@The727stpete727 He is Questioning her. Ms. Rand is saying I'm not her to defend my point of view. What I say is right. It's like when people say you can take or leave my advise but if you don't take it your an idiot. She acts as tho she is the smartest on in the room. She is not even original. She just took what others have have said and expanded it.
luceean 4 months ago
@luceean She's saying I'm not here to defend my viewpoint? You're the fucking idiot she answered the question after donahue asked it politely. She created an entire philosophy based on rational principles. Anybody that has a problem with reason and being objective is a moron by definition.
The727stpete727 4 months ago
@The727stpete727 So let me get this Straight your on a TV show TALKING about your Beliefs and wont Depend them?!? And these were NOT even her OWN she just stood on the back of others. The only way you can defend yourself is by calling names?! Her philosophy is VERY flawed!
Her books are GREAT until she opens her mouth, then it all tanks.
luceean 4 months ago
@luceean well if you think so base your life on self-sacrifice and religion and see what happens. You'll end up depressed.
The727stpete727 4 months ago
@The727stpete727 Now you can make a sentence without calling someone a name. I'm Not saying self-sacrifice is a good thing but I do believe in Religion and I'm not too depressed so that isn't correct. I seem to have something Rand and you don't seem to have; I have peace. Peace to let me know that if no one agrees with me it's just fine and I don't have to MAKE them or belittle them because they don't. When you reach that you will understand what I'm saying.
luceean 4 months ago
@luceean Oh that contentment must be the reason you perpetuate this argument lol if you didn't want your anti-rand beliefs heard or disputed you wouldn't have put your comments on youtube, check your premises. I could care less if you agree with me or anyone for that matter unless they stand in my way of success. That is, success attained by upholding moral standards, not success derived from coercion and government privilege.
The727stpete727 4 months ago
@The727stpete727 No, I just will not let you get the last word. I never said I have a problem with defending my own believes. You seem to because when I disagreed with you, you when on the attack.
luceean 4 months ago
@luceean Well religion is based on self-sacrifice and you're "Not saying self-sacrifice is a good thing" so you obviously have contradictions in your philosophy, talk about flawed lol. You may have the last word if you wish, you don't make interesting arguments, I'm done.
The727stpete727 4 months ago
@The727stpete727 No it's not! How can I TRULY help someone else when I cant help myself? If it was not interesting, you sure kept coming back again and again.
luceean 4 months ago
@lisettesvision I second that motion. The audience member was condescending and Ayn would not entertain an impolite questioner.
alotoaltosaxes 4 months ago
@lisettesvision absolutely. It is condescending. Final. Absolute
srinivaskari 1 month ago
All she is doing is asserting that her "objectivist" moral values are the only true moral values that exist. This is blatant non sense and is NOT based on reason as she likes to claim.
ryan84160 7 months ago
@ryan84160 - Show me a true moral value that is NOT Objective and then you can call it nonsense. By the way, if you haven't read 'Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand' then you will not know what she is talking about. Her philosophy defines an Objective code of values and why a human being needs to have values. Then it shows you how to put them into the context of a human life and the requirements that need to be met in order to live life to your full potential. Read it, you might like it.
djangothecat 7 months ago
@djangothecat ALLL moral values are SUBJECTIVE. Just as my preference for chocolate cake over vanilla is my SUBJECTIVE opinion, Any Rands "moral values" are her SUBJECTIVE opinions even thought she likes to pretend otherwise. If you are going to claim that your moral values are objective, I am going to have to ask you to prove it. How are you going to prove that your personal opinion is objectively true?
ryan84160 7 months ago
@ryan84160 - Chocolate over vanilla is your opinion but the 'fact' that you need food in order to survive IS an objective fact. In a way, that's the beginning of her moral system. A human is not like an animal that survives by instinct. A human MUST use reason in order to survive. And the more rational you are and in contact with reality, the more you will flourish in life. If these comment boxes allowed 10 pages I could continue from this beginning and show how she gets to Objective values...
djangothecat 7 months ago
@djangothecat "Chocolate over vanilla is your opinion but the 'fact' that you need food in order to survive IS an objective fact." I don't follow you at all. This is a non-sequitur. One is a subjective opinion and one is a fact. What is your point ?
Im still not hearing anything that addresses the fact that Ayn Rand considers her personal opinions and values to be objective facts.
ryan84160 7 months ago
@ryan84160 - Rand shows that moral values are Objective but it can't be explained in this short comment format. Most people are searching for the answers to these questions of morality and there are hundreds of opinions. Ayn Rand didn't invent morality, she just discovered a proper code of values and proves them to be Objective. I can't prove in 500 characters what she takes a book to prove. I told you what book to get if you are interested. If not then good luck on your search for answers : )
djangothecat 7 months ago
What a dumb cunt.
HomoCyborgZombie 7 months ago
The woman President thing is funny.
I'd vote for a strong conservative woman, before I vote for a wimpy, coddling, appologistic, emotional liberal man any day of the week.
But on the lighter side, have you ever seen how two woemn behave when they show up to a party wearing the same dress? My God can imagine, and let's not forget the "special time of the month" when their such a pleasure to hang around.
EchoMike03 8 months ago
~:59 And here comes the moral relativism.
Isreal is surrounded by countries who pray for the destruction and murder of every man woman and child, yet Donahue's going to advocate for the poor "Arabs" who just want peace. And they'll have that peace as soon as all the Jews are dead.
This is the kind of crap that makes me sick to my stomach. These are the people who get other people killed, with their inability to call a spade a spade, for fear of offending someone.
FUCK EM!!!!
EchoMike03 8 months ago
@ChaosDynamics Here it is put simply. The best man for the job will always be better than the best woman for the job. That's what she means when she says, 'if the standards had fallen that low.' Taking your example, the top 100 best male soldiers in the world are vastly superior to the top 100 best female soldiers in the world. The best female soldier in the world could not compete with the best male soldier in the world. This is her point based on the sex differences. I agree with it.
Esoparagon 8 months ago
hahaaha these stupid feminist getting all offensive about ayn rands opinion about a woman in the white house.
platinum014 9 months ago
Lol @ her sexism.
TheEthanwashere 9 months ago
I love this lady. She is so sure of herself I always feel refreshed and hopful after listening to her speak. I love the way she responded to the "rude" lady in the last segment. I have three young children and i have tried to teach them manners to the best of my ability. Not many people today understand the full meaning of being respectful. For those of you who watch this and are confused about her philosophy or want more information i recomend 'Ayn rand for begginers'.
shelbeh94 9 months ago
I think that woman was both brilliant and ignorant at the same time. Obviously at different things and to that affect who isn't, but poeple who hold her up as womderful on all of her phlisophies and ideas are JUST fans.
Thayer79 9 months ago 14
@Thayer79 exactly. at 2:11, the same thing was done by Isreali forces in 1967 on the USS Liberty, the same terrorism and violence were the same by the Mossad..and yes Isreal has the right of self-defense, but not at the expense of just and righteous society.
SuperOmnicron 9 months ago
@Thayer79 I agree. I therefore, call myself an Objectivist, rather than an Ayn Rand follower. But I think it's important to see the difference between her philosophy and her personal taste in things (like romantic art). She has also released a statement about how she was fascinated by that hickman guy, but I don't think it's part of the objectivist philosophy. It was probably just the fact that she may have been attracted to dominant/sadistic men, which is just a personal taste.
VanessaTexasGal 3 months ago
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analagony 2 months ago
ayn rand is merely a reductionist, she is full of contradictions, she just uses intellectual jargon to disconcert the apposers of her philosophy. no philosopher has ever resonated within me as much as Alan Watts did.
wisam1987 9 months ago
Ayn Rand is true to her ideas no matter what the audience thinks. Her responses are based on a very thoughtful position.
chairde 9 months ago
superlucci: (continued)- I basically just find Rand's views fundamentally incompatible with Christianity. Rand is also purposely taken out of context by the Right in relation to today's American situation and the use of terms such as Socialism/Capitalism. Her ideas of capitalism lean more towards fascism and is not supportive of democracy. She also revered sociopath and serial killer dehumanizing qualities. The Right always chooses the self centered path first then looks for justification.
tmikeb1717 9 months ago
@tmikeb1717 if you believe that Rand's ideas lean towards fascism you have no understanding of the term. fascism is what a mixed economy with government force and regulation is - fascism it is what we have this very moment in time. Rand is for pure capitalism where control is in the hands of the consumer at all times. Please provide proof of you unsubstantiated claim "She also revered sociopath and serial killer dehumanizing qualities" - it seems you have just strung some words together.
rumei1 9 months ago
superlucci : No, I don't think you have to agree on everything to see value in one's views. I do have a problem with the Right's 40 yr courtship with Christians/south based on token Christian soundbites church infiltration. I'm Christian but resent tax exempt status for a preacher's rhetoric swaying congregations to the right. Rand was intelligent but incompatible with Christian values and reconciled only in ignorance. The Right is like Rand and unlike Christ or Jefferson,Madison,Franklin,etc
tmikeb1717 9 months ago
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Isn't it a little strange...or maybe just revealing of true colors...that the right wing would openly start looking at Rand in reverence....such as Paul Ryan stating her as a personal hero...when the woman...considered a nut by her contemporaries...detested Christianity...was against everything Christ stood for...believing that compassion and altruism to be evil weaknesses...etc. etc....and this coming from the self proclaimed party of Christians...too bad so many misguided Christians belief it
tmikeb1717 9 months ago
Isn't it a little strange...or maybe just revealing of true colors...that the right wing would openly start looking at Rand in reverence....such as Paul Ryan stating her as a personal hero...when the woman...considered a nut by her contemporaries...detested Christianity...was against everything Christ stood for...believing that compassion and altruism to be evil weaknesses...etc. etc....and this coming from the self proclaimed party of Christians...too bad so many misguided Christians belief it.
tmikeb1717 9 months ago
@tmikeb1717 Isnt it a little strange....that you think that if somebody agrees and reveres somebody....has to agree with EVERY SINGLE POINT that the person has made?
superlucci 9 months ago
@mcnairone Then you must be slightly autistic. This is not a criticism, just a diagnosis.
DelightfulAnimation 10 months ago
"I wouldnt vote for her..." HAHAHAHAHA
Classic, just classic xD
Chopofiev 10 months ago
She was a serial- killer groupie and a hypocrite who collected Social Security and relied on Medicare. Look it up.
ampoules1 10 months ago
@mcnairone Narcissists never know who they are. How could they? They all suffer from slight autism.
elizabethfaraone 10 months ago
Selfishness requires no reinforcement, therefore Miss Rand's philosophy is useless.
elizabethfaraone 10 months ago
Miss Rand: The US doesn't kill innocent people in the wars that it wages? Or in the military coups it participates in?
elizabethfaraone 10 months ago
"This woman is absolutely brilliant"? Her books are unreadable and her thinking is based on cruelty.
MicDoane 10 months ago
Atn Rand was a legend!
sowhatsnew205 10 months ago
I'm not sure how many times it has to be said. Govt intervention and collusion are what create mompolies, NOT a free market!!!
With a free market, your competition is constantly evovlving and growing, and no one can be bought, that isn't willing to sell.
EchoMike03 11 months ago
omg i thought she was about to die on stage
cookiesonsteve 11 months ago
Donahue and the audience's criticisms are so ridiculous, dishonest and easily disproved.
BurningOrchids 11 months ago
@BurningOrchids Wrong. She obviously can't take criticism. The lady was rude, yes, but Rand did not have to act like a child and say if you ask nicely, then i'll answer the question. Stop sucking up to her and look at both sides.
votumseparatum1 10 months ago
Man. They just don't have interviews like this anymore. It's a damn shame.
sonnybrown 1 year ago 3
Her big big flaw was her ignorance or stupidity about the arabs being violent. The jewish murdering of thousands of women and children in refugee camps goes all the way back to the 1960-70 and is a confirmed fact by Red Cross.
MrSpecialop 1 year ago
Way to go Donahue! Way to go for calling on her ill-informed and hypocritical ass.
AvaPozen 1 year ago
What the fuck, Khazar Jews have been murdering Palestinian women and children for 60 + years. Does anyone believe the lies coming out of this Jewish woman's mouth?
MrSmibby 1 year ago
It's extremely interesting to me how this woman's psychology has shaped her philosophy. It is an inescapable fact that we are all human and are dynamically influenced by our environments, history and the fundamental way in which we interact with other human beings. I disagree with her philosophy and can understand the appeal of it for others, but even more importantly, I find her personal characteristics very instrumental in understanding why she has developed this view of existence.
DreamINfiniteMoment 1 year ago
KInd of funny reading all the gushing comments about Rand and how astonishingly intelligent she supposedly is. She does a bang 'em up job of demonstrating her prejudice against Arabs. Objectivism my ass.
NuclearKid 1 year ago
@NuclearKid i myself was a little surprised at how forward she was, but are you saying that the theocratic centers of power in the middle-east don't strive to keep the people down through denying education and discouraging independent thought?
come to think of it, don't most religions drift that way? no wonder she's an atheist.
RadocracyTV 1 year ago
@RadocracyTV I'm not fan of religion either. I just am repulsed at how she classified all Arabs as "savages" and all Israelis as angels. Give me a break. There are, literally, thousands upon thousands of videos on YouTube showing Israelis maiming, killing and destroying the Palestinians. They hold all the power, yet they (the Israelis) are the ones acting like complete savages. Anyone with an objective eye can see this.
NuclearKid 1 year ago
@NuclearKid Both sides are extremely guilty. I won't delve into that debate, thats for another video...another forum....another time lol I will say though that a lot of the rhetoric from outside of Israel goes without serious consideration simply because Israel has a superpower ally.
RadocracyTV 1 year ago
Rand is obviously a million times more intelligent and knowledgeable than these people but when presented with one of her views that is at odds with their received opinions they automatically reject it and even go so far as to laugh at her as if what she said is so self evidently incorrect that it's funny, ignoring the fact that, again, Rand is considerably more intelligent and knowledgeable than them. It's depressing and downright scary when you think of the implications.
CaptainStern2 1 year ago
she's totally correct, certain responsibilities require certain abilities
featheredmusic 1 year ago
@featheredmusic
But it is a stereotypical assumption that a WOMAN cannot have such abilities.
DreamINfiniteMoment 1 year ago
I wonder how many in that crowd look back at this and say holy shit!! Especially, when discussing god and arabs....
robertchflynn 1 year ago
Big Developed Brain meets a lot of small undeveloped brains........
governmentisamonster 1 year ago
How the audience failed to understand that the woman who said, "I used to to agree with you, but now that I am more educated I don't," was insulting her I shall never know. She was obviously implying a causal relationship between her further education and disagreement with Rand. She may as well have said, "Now that I'm not stupid anymore, I disagree with you." Obvious insult, folks.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago 17
@gusgusthegreat I get the feeling that most of the audience was hostile to her ideas, and probably saw the woman's comment as a clever jab rather than an insult. I, personally, did think it was insulting. And to Ayn's point, politeness is now even more in decline than it was back then, which is too bad, I think. I'm all for resisting the powers that be or protesting and whatnot, but civil discourse is best.
tony225 1 year ago
this woman is pretty amazing, very wise. i don't think she is half as eloquent as say Milton Friedman but that doesn't mean she is not good at understanding life and some of some of the evils that have surfaced as "services" to those in need. very sound thinker. i admire her.
kthcsh 1 year ago
Donahue know how to run a talk show. Handling this woman, must have been like handling a lion.
Flighn 1 year ago
I feel the urge to point out that Ms. Rand's desparaging comments about the conflict in Israel was (at least to me) clearly directed at the ones doing the attacking and oppressing? I don't think she said it because she didn't feel the need. As far as my estimation, it was already qualified when she said on numerous occasions during this interview that force and violence are evil. That being said, obviously those stuck in the middle weren't included in her commentary
tipsdaturtle 1 year ago
I served under three female commanders in the HMKG, and though they were equal or superior athletes, technical expertise and military drill they did not have the tactical instinct or the killer instinct on the ground in battlefield excercises. Iam sure there are exceptions, but we must generalize if we are to hold a true perspective on reality, generalization is the foundation for all wisdom.
killerbee2k 1 year ago
@killerbee2k How can generalising 'hold a true perspective on reality' when you admit that there are exceptions?
'A true perspective on reality' would include the exceptions and that would not be generalising because generalising excludes exceptions.
'A true perspective on reality' would include all the people who are alike and the exceptions too. So for that reason generalisation cannot be the 'foundation for all wisdom' because it ignores the exceptions.
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000 Nooo, generalization does not exclude exceptions.
Generalization is the measurement of a parameter within a population from which you can make statistical hypothesis about the population.
In other words, generalization is the only scientific perspective you can have on reality.
killerbee2k 1 year ago
@killerbee2k Statisitcs give a good idea of what's out there but I wouldn't go so far as to say that general data holds a true perspective on reality
e.g. you could take the data that the majority of prison inmates in America are black men & then use that data to generalise that all black men from poor areas are criminals. This would be wrong because there are many black men who are not criminals(exceptions). For this reason generalisation & statistics could not be a true perspective of reality
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000 If through statistical generalization it concludes that most black men from predominantly poor areas are criminals, it means that when you are in a poor area and see a black man, it is most likely that he is a criminal, and thats the true perspective on reality. You can say that he may not be a criminal, but you dont have the law of probability on your side and therefore the wise rational thing to do is to take precautions such as dont lower your guard. Its not PC, but its truth.
killerbee2k 1 year ago
@begood20000 and by truth I dont mean the example of black men, I mean the statistical probability and generalization. Iam not saying that you are wrong in your claim too exception, only that your premise about exceptions being wrong in the context of generalization is false statement. I can send you a list of some good books on statistics if you want. Its fascinating in understanding and falsifying studies done by others, and for use in ones own studies :)
killerbee2k 1 year ago
I wish we had more shows like Donahue today, like he said "Its easy to wave the flag, but I dont want to that, I want to understand" and his humility is awesome, humility is almost non-existent in the talk show business today.
Aynd Rand is such a realist it scares people, the President is commander in cheif and Men are naturally more militant, physically stronger than women.
killerbee2k 1 year ago
That was great, brilliant mind, her philosophy is very interesting.
treypol 1 year ago
Donahue was simply the best there has ever been at this format--celebrities, intellectuals, even Rand liked him.
CincinnatusUSA 1 year ago 4
Can somebody tell me what Ayn Rand is being asked at 4:25? I have no idea what the heck Goldemayer is, or however the heck you spell it. Someone please help.
madderbass 1 year ago
@madderbass
Golda Meir was the prime minister of Israel (perhaps its most famous one), most memorably during the 1973 Yom Kippur war between Israel on one hand vs. Egypt and Syria on the other. She had a reputation for being tough much in a similar vein as Magaret Thatcher though as Rand points out accurately, Meir was a leftist while Thatcher was for capitalism. Hope that helps.
allenlobo 1 year ago
@allenlobo Ah, yes! Thank you very much!
madderbass 1 year ago
well, the US Navy have women commading ships now, and damn good at it. i like miss rand but, some of hers view are a little extreme. i would have voted for Hillary though. I spent a year in Afghanistan (2009), and the people there are kinda behind the eightball, and you couldn't really trust them either, because they were prone to pulling "switch-a-roos" and try to kill us.. what's amazing about this video, is that it's dated 1979, Now (2010), most of us do blame Arabs for terrorist acts..
ghostoffelakuti 1 year ago
it sad to watch a philosopher like ayn explain herself to a bunch of hill billys.
Azazin11 1 year ago
@Azazin11 Rand is a "hill billy" in her own right
the80ees 1 year ago
@the80ees She dosent think like a hill billy; therefore...?
Azazin11 1 year ago
Is this kind of back-and-forth less entertaining to people of today as the mutual ass-kissing all over talk shows now?
chuobio 1 year ago 30
@chuobio It always was. The difference between people's mentality from back then and now is that the people who make shows up discovered people like shit from the genre you mentioned.
AlexNOSAM 6 months ago
After watching the entire 5 part series, I now know why libertarians like Murray Rothbard left her "camp", and douchebags like Alan Greenspan, stayed. With all that she had to say about monopolies, and government "favoritism", not one mention of the Federal Reserve, or the debt-based monetary system. The Fed, and fiat currency are Socialist institutions.
Her support of Israel over the Arabs goes against her own non-interventionist and non-aggression doctrines, as well.
mikemat3307 1 year ago 2
@mikemat3307 Well, she never mentioned the fed verbatim, but what's she said already about how government involvement in the economy causes problems, as well as another interview where she wished there was a state and market separation as well as church and state, would seem to make it clear how she feels about it.
As for Israel, I think she was saying if she had to choose a side. Or perhaps that she's more in favor of Israel, but I don't think she necessarily said we should be involved.
SavedbyJaco 1 year ago 2
I wish the Objectivists got to run the country if only to humble themselves to the fact that they too are flawed human beings who would get seduced by corruption and conyism just like every other band of idealists who took control of a nation. Just like the Marxists, they get to preach from the ivory tower. If Greenspan screws up, they can just say he wasn't Objectivist enough!
SweetSweetWaldo 1 year ago
@SweetSweetWaldo The point is not to let Objectivists to run the country. Rather to let the country run itself
GoingGoingGalt 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this. Much appreciation.
COMB0RICO 1 year ago
THIS WOMAN IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT, YEARS AND YEARS AHEAD OF HER TIME, AND SHE MAKES EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE INCLUDING DONAHUE LOOK LIKE A DAMN DIRTY APE
HolyShizzle 1 year ago 82
@HolyShizzle Oh, shut up, she's was an angry Russian sexist and racist with basic Econ 101 knowledge. That's it. Find the fuckin Caps Lock.
MEpianist 1 year ago
@MEpianist get a life Hippie...
JohnGaltHasSpoken 1 year ago
@JohnGaltHasSpoken
That's libertarian to you, Randroid... :)
MEpianist 1 year ago
@MEpianist How was she a racist? She wrote against racism constantly. Her argument is that the free market will end racism. "We are all brothers under the skin - and I, for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it” -- Ayn Rand
syghur 1 year ago
@HolyShizzle "A DAMN DIRTY APE" appropriate comment for a very limited intellect. Rand came off as shrill, insensitive and condescending. She was largely ignored by some critics, but still has a following. Mind you, the one lady was absolutely correct. Atlas Shrugged was the blueprint for the Corporate Tyranny we have today, in that they are "reason guided" and her support for Isreal pretty much paints her far too subjective to be a true objectivist. Maybe her age was showing in a public format
SuperOmnicron 9 months ago 2
@HolyShizzle Yeah, way ahead of her time: "it is not to a women's personal interest to rule man; it puts her in a very unhappy position." Are you kidding? Yeah, brilliantly bigoted and ignorant.
hatchbx 8 months ago
Phil was exactly right! "She can dish it out but she couldn't take it" and I'm her biggest fan, but she was wrong and she needed to own it.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
I don't agree with everything Rand says, but boy, do I enjoy listening to her LOL
Zackerybob 1 year ago
GREAT THANKS FOR UPLOAD.
19cohen 1 year ago
She's undoubtedly intelligent. But the legions of fanboys/girls are tiresome in their sycophantic support. Alas it seems all it takes is for one human being to present an argument in opposition to the two - or three - main ones, before we run away with it and fuck ourselves most decidedly in the ass. It happened with Karl Marx, and you better believe it'd happen with objectivism.
olqutseg 1 year ago
Brilliant - speechless
koss121 1 year ago
"A commaner in chief of the Army, a woman?".. Since she put it that way, it does sound kind of funny.
86crud 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
she is a racist idiot jew who is only intelligent to the fox news viewers
wenithboy 1 year ago
@wenithboy Spoken like a true intellectual midget, congrats.
RRJ1 1 year ago
@wenithboy
Haha, what a statment.
"She is a rasist idiot JEW ..." ( i know Jews aren't a race but it's similar bigotry)
You are an idiot.
UrbyKris 1 year ago
@wenithboy How is she racist? She made her point by making a comparison as she sees it. How is she an idiot? She's done a lot of thinking about her position before she speaks, and does not make a sweeping negative generality as you have. What's being Jewish got to do with it, esp. if she's atheistic in her belief system? Arabs DO resent change, because change is "innovation," which they do not tolerate, because they believe their religion is perfect. Perfect is not an exaggeration.
barkulator 1 year ago
Speaking of Nader, I'd have liked to see those two debate.
rondus18 1 year ago
utterly brilliant mind!
monsoroe 1 year ago
haha If we've sunken that low xDDDD
WonderBread006 1 year ago
Donahue is being imbecilic and irrational. true to his normal state of being :))
Rawego 1 year ago
@Rawego
Yeah Donahue's way of speaking only furthers my belief in Rand
pogoman555 1 year ago
I understand most of her points except that last part about not voting for a woman that will be commanding in chief. Is she saying that only a horrible woman would want to lead an army?
4rcane 1 year ago
@4rcane She says the only role of the government is running the police and military. Those roles are masculine in nature. We have far more women in those roles these days so maybe she would have a different opinion. Although in the military they still try to keep women away from direct combat, as they tend to lay on the ground and cry when the shooting starts.
dodododa 1 year ago
@dodododa They lay on the ground? Who told you that? She has bases for each of her points, what is your basis for saying that?
barkulator 1 year ago
@4rcane probably because of natural roles of men and women...
kombajndosalatek 1 year ago
@4rcane No I think she means it is not in a woman's nature to be a commander in chief. She said women can be leaders and intellectual equals, but commander in chief of an army of men, no. I think she also means that if it ever happened, it would only be by a huge mistake and would result in a very bad outcome.
barkulator 1 year ago
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